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by ttdtt 11 hours ago 34 Replies latest 14 minutes ago   jw experiences
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ttdtt
ttdtt 11 hours ago

Lesson 22: One Man, One Woman
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/
Disgusting!

 
FayeDunaway
FayeDunaway 11 hours ago
Sorry i dont watch witness videos because they make me physically ill, but this doesnt surprise me. Jehovahs witnesses: preaching intolerance from infancy.
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freemindfade
freemindfade 11 hours ago
That was awful, I hope this one bites them in the ass like the Noah one! Sick!
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ToesUp
ToesUp 11 hours ago
It will bite them!
 
JustVisting
JustVisting 11 hours ago
Gotta love the trademark WT seal of approval at the end of these productions.
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BlackWolf
BlackWolf 11 hours ago

Man! My dads probably gonna make us watch this crap at our next family worship, and then my moms going to go on and on about how disgusting gay people are like usual. Little do they know I'm actually bisexual :frowning: This video makes me sad.
Edit: my mom just watched it and she thought it was risque!
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steve2
steve2 11 hours ago
Given the sheer number of gay and lesbian individuals "produced" in JW marriages, this is indeed rich in irony. The equivalent of being made to reject the very individuals they have brought into the world.
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dbq407
dbq407 10 hours ago

Could be bad PR for them if the right person sees it.
I like how paradise is gonna have a security check point like at the airport now. Good job WT.
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dubstepped
dubstepped 10 hours ago

Mom: "What can you tell Carrie at school?"
Sophia: "Well, I can tell Carrie about paradise and about how her mommies are going to die right on the cusp of it in a fiery Armageddon. Afterward Carrie and I can help bury their bodies once the birds pick them clean and we can live forever happy, because you know, Carrie won't even miss her mommies."
That's how it should have ended. Disgusting.
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ToesUp
ToesUp 10 hours ago
dubstepped said it all. That is HOW it should have been portrayed. The reality!
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Gefangene
Gefangene 10 hours ago
Dubstepped pls excuse the "dislike" on your posting. I wanted to hit "like" and I accidentally hit dislike by mistake. Great thoughts!
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scotsman
scotsman 10 hours ago
Is it saying gay people are like bombs? Or maybe we're just like a large can of shaving gel?
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Pete Zahut
Pete Zahut 10 hours ago


That was awful, I hope this one bites them in the ass like the Noah one! Sick!
What happened in regard to the Noah Video? I hadn't heard anything about that.



I think JW's would probably call this a "Pro Hetro Marriage video" rather than an "Anti-Gay Marriage Video".
I can't help but notice how the messages in these videos are way too obvious "on the nose".  Everything they support is portrayed in a hyper-idealistic way. The homes are as neat as a pin and nicely decorated, the Dad's are always handsome and strapping and the moms are always pretty and feminine and the kids are cute, chipper and easy to reason with.
Did you notice that in the idealistic "paradise scene", the boys jumping into the water were wearing shirts? Wouldn't want to anyone to get the wrong idea by showing boys swimming immodestly without their shirts on. Even the most subtle detail is covered by their calculated message.

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fulltimestudent
fulltimestudent 9 hours ago

steve2: Given the sheer number of gay and lesbian individuals "produced" in JW marriages, this is indeed rich in irony.
And, we should not forget that the witnesses say that same sex attracted people can 'change.' But the evidence is that they do not change, they merely live a life of deceit, attempting to be 'straight.' Ask the wives (or, former wives) of so many people who tried to 'change' in the watchtower way. These sad guys do not experience heterosexual sexual attraction. They are the victims of christian fraud (the JWs are not the only christian group who make this claim).
The second false claim in the above video, is that God created humans, "male and female." Simplistic thinkers like the witnesses think that having a penis or vagina, makes you male of female. But the reality is that sex and gender (two different things) is much more complex than that.
All humans born of women (and that includes the historical Jesus) started life in a form that can be described as gender neutral, or even female. Take a look at the following 2 videos to glimpse reality and not the fake social construction foisted on the poor bloody kids in the above JW video.



And, as for women (and the so-called womanly virtues in the fake 'christian' social construction) they too are very different to the image of women in the above video, as the following video will demonstrate.



The reality of human life, contrasted with the fake social construction taught by the witnesses, tells us something else. It tells us why the witnesses discourage tertiary (university) education. Never let the facts spoil a fictional story.
One last thing: There were many males in ancient Israel who were prepared to have sex with other men. Open your bibles children and turn to 1 Kings 14:24:
And there were also sodomites in the land. (KJV):
An interesting story, because a more accurate translation is that they were male temple prostitutes. So now we have a mental picture of many small temples across Israel, and inside you could find a man prepared to have sex with another man. Now prostitutes have customers, so we may imagine a number of visitors each day to each of these temples and inside an (unknown) number of 'male temple prostitutes' all offering an exalted spiritual experience through their sexual skills. Not quite what the WTS teaches about ancient Israel.
Viewed from that perspective, the description of David at 1 Samuel 18:1 take on a special poignancy:
1Now it came about when he had finished speaking to Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself.
Now jump across to 2 samuel 1: 26:
How I weep for you, my brother Jonathan! Oh, how much I loved you! And your love for me was deep, deeper than the love of women! (NLT)
or this version:
English Standard Version : I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant have you been to me; your love to me was extraordinary, surpassing the love of women.
Faced with this information, how can anyone argue that the relationship between the younger David and the older Jonathon, did not have a sexual connection?



It may distress some whose minds refuse to accept the evidence to think of David ( a type of Jesus) kissing Jonathon, but however much conservative Christians may try to argue it away, the evidence stares us in the face, since in the ancient world the older usually penetrated the younger, we must imagine Jonathon penetrating David (likely not just once, but a number of times), and providing such a memorable experience that David never forgot how wonderful his love affair with Jonathon was.
Now lets skip through the centuries to the time of King James himself,


King James I

as I'm sure everyone knows, James set up a committee and personally presided at many of its meetings to produce a new translation o the Bible, a translation that had a marked affect on the English language, and is particularly liked by many modern Christians.
I find it also poignant that James (even though married with children) preferred to have sex with men. In a different world arrangement his Royal partner would have been a male.
Here's a quote from a web-site on the British Royal family:
He also sought solace with extravagant and unsavoury male favourites ( http://www.britroyals.com/kings.asp?id=james1 )
I'm not sure about the judgemental statements evident in the word unsavoury. The English nobility could likely be said to have been 'unsavoury.'



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Captain Schmideo2
Captain Schmideo2 9 hours ago

"And after you tell her about the Paradise, be sure to tell her that if her mommies don't change, they'll die at Armageddon! Share the fear!"
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Heaven
Heaven 9 hours ago

Is this JW video available on YouTube? I don't like going to jw dot Borg.
And remember, Paul, Christianity's foundational figure, circumcised his adult male friend Timothy. We all know the ancient Jewish circumcision technique, right...right?

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respectful_observer
respectful_observer 9 hours ago

@1:55 "...people can change!" I'm sure LGBT would all agree with that statement.
And what would she tell her classmate? The paradise, the animals (everyone gets a pet panda), and the resurrection. Hmmmm....nothing about God killing her moms first? I wonder why not?
 
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Wasanelder Once
Wasanelder Once 8 hours ago
Carrie will obviously drop her moms like carry on luggage. So clear and clever. In this case carry on would become carrion. Ba Dum Tish!

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Heaven
Heaven 7 hours ago

Thanks wifibandit.
Jehovah wants everyone to be in paradise?
Uh, no he doesn't. He doesn't want the Catholics, the Jews, the homosexuals, the transgenders, the bisexuals, the transvestites, the hemophiliacs, the apostates, people with turrets syndrome ... you know, anyone who isn't a healthy, young, able-bodied, able-minded heterosexual Jehovah's Witness.

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jwjono
jwjono 7 hours ago
I find this rather sad. Homosexuals don't hurt anyone. They are just two people who love each other. They didn't show what happens if the man does take the bag through the check portal. Will he get zapped by lightening? Or will the angels come and take him away?
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breakfast of champions
breakfast of champions 7 hours ago

Why are they even going here? Gay marriage and parenting is EXTREMELY rare. It is likely your school-age child will NEVER meet a classmate with two moms or dads.
So why do they produce this shit? Why is this issue so fucking important they have to make a cartoon?
Because they don't have an original thought of their own and are following right along with all of the religious Right propaganda bullshit.

What a bunch of assholes.
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stuckinarut2
stuckinarut2 7 hours ago

Wow!
Perhaps this could be forwarded to some relevant anti discrimination organisations?
Is this to combat the influence of shows like "modern family"?
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Jehalapeno
Jehalapeno 7 hours ago
This video makes Jehalapeño sad.
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just fine
just fine 6 hours ago

This kind of crap is just them trying to judge others as less worthy of God. I have met some really wonderful people who happen to be gay. I was just visiting with a lesbian couple I know tonight and one of them has Mormon family that are giving her a really hard time right now. Why can't they just love other people the way they are. It's so sad.
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kairos
kairos 6 hours ago

What they don't show is the practice session to follow:
Tactics to fool the young school girl into having a secret bible study, joining the cult so she can shun the two women that raised her.
Real nice...
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konceptual99
konceptual99 6 hours ago

The great thing about this video is that it shows that anyone who is doing anything that the Bible condemns can't get through the big A. It is a clear example of the reality of Armageddon as requiring the destruction of billions and the truth about what Witness doctrine really teaches despite the protestations that it's all up to God to judge and won't kill anyone deserving of life.
So the next time a Witness throws that wishy washy line at you just use their own kids video against them and ask them what it's really saying about who can get on the narrow road to life found by few as compared to the broad and spacious road full of billions of people trudging off to destruction
 
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Billy the Ex-Bethelite 5 hours ago

It would seem from this video that the only reason JWs get married is because it makes Hojovah happy. Mom made no statements about how much she enjoyed being married to her husband and how wonderful the "one man and one woman" marriage and "biblical" family arrangement was.
Nope. No personal testimony from Sophia's mom about the wonderfulness of heterosexuality. Rather, she made it sound like homosexuality was something that everyone had to give up in order to please god. You know, like birthday parties and Christmas presents and Halloween costumes and Easter candy and after-school sports and music and a university education and a hundred other fun and potentially beneficial activities.
So, it's not that people really want to be straight. It's just that they have to give up being gay or being "two moms" in order to please Hojovah.
I suspect that the parents of Caleb and Sophia may have a sham marriage.

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kairos
kairos 4 hours ago
I still can't get over the fact they promote a web site and watch cartoons in the KH...
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wizzstick 3 hours ago

This way well go viral.
I truly hope so.

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atomant
atomant 3 hours ago
Just imagine being married to the same partner for eternity. Just imagine.

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stuckinarut2
stuckinarut2 2 hours ago

I wonder if witnesses will use THIS video out in service?
Hmmm....guess not!
Its a typical "in house" video!
 
poopsiecakes
poopsiecakes an hour ago

I saw this video today. Made me feel horrible that I actually thought this way in my life. :frowning:
 
punkofnice
punkofnice 23 minutes ago
This video needs getting out there and exposing. The media needs to see this. Gay rights organisations need to see this too.............not sure who or how, but..hey...
 

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Gorbatchov 9 hours ago

Maybe not relevant at all, another picture from my deep storage archive, with on it an official Austria Watchtower delegation meeting with government and religion leaders of that country.



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wifibandit
wifibandit 9 hours ago

Walter Schneeweiß?



 
wannaexit
wannaexit 8 hours ago

Participating in interfaith and sporting facial hairs . Hypocrites!!
Thanks Gorby for sharing your archives.
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Me:"My son is going to South Korea to teach English. He'll get to live in another country, expand his horizons, and live comfortably while he is there!"
Deeply devout JW brother-in-law:"Oh, it's really bad in South Korea. The brothers have a bad time over there, they get thrown in prison because they won't serve in the military..."
or
Me:"My son has gotten an amazing opportunity to do an internship in Moscow! His lodgings are provided, he gets a living stipend, and he'll be working at Yandex, the Russian version of Google!"
Deeply devout JW mother-in-law:"They still ban Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia. They are not allowed to preach!"
I know I should realize by now that this is going to be the reaction to anything that doesn't have to do with Pioneering or Bethel, but it still just disappoints and makes me mad.
It also drives home the reason why I, as a young man, never really did anything like this, because I knew that there would be some form of disapproval, either vocal, or in the eyes, of family and members of the Hall.
So, eff all of them! My sons will get to have life experiences that my idiot brother-in-law will never have, or will never be sentenced to a life of waiting for a bus that will never, ever arrive, like my mother-in-law has done to herself.





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by JW_Rogue 4 hours ago 25 Replies latest 28 minutes ago   jw experiences
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JW_Rogue 4 hours ago
Is it possible to have an effect from the inside? With well thought comments that reveal more of the history of the organization? The next book we study will be "God's Kingdom Rules!" which sets itself up for extra research into the Proclaimers book.
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OUTLAW 3 hours ago


Waking People Up With Well Thought Out Comments
....Your In A Cult!..
Get The F*CK OUT!!..
....................................http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/GeneralWaco/thsmilie_happy_251.gif
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JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue 3 hours ago

Outlaw - That is really easy to say when you are already DF'd or DA'd let me give you a break down of my situation.
Immediate family: All JWs except one, includes an Elder and auxiliary pioneers. We've all been together in the same congregation since I was born.
Sister In Law and Nieces: All JWs
Wife: JW
Wife's Immediate family: All JWs
Childhood Friends: JWs
Social Circle: All JWs
So yeah I'd love to write a letter of disassociation and never go back. I could do that but that would not end things, that would only be the beginning of my troubles. If I have to put on a bit of act then I will do so. I have been doing it for a long time anyway.
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JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue 3 hours ago
Hell, I've barely even started fading and am catching some negativity. When they announce I'm no longer an MS my mom might have a mental breakdown. I know it's nonsense but for them it's the only thing that matters.
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OUTLAW
OUTLAW 3 hours ago


Outlaw - That is really easy to say when you are already DF'd or DA'd.....JW_Rogue
I`m not Da`d or DF`d..
One day I had enough and walked out..
There`s no easy way out,you walk away or stay..
There`s consequences either way..
.

Your not going to change the WBT$ from the inside..
Your not going to Save JW`s who are happy where they are..
So you better figure out what you need to do,for you..

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JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue 3 hours ago

One day I had enough and walked out..
There`s no easy way out,you walk away or stay..
Don't think I can do it that way, too many people will push me until the truth comes out. Then it'll be off to a JC for me. Nope, gotta take it slow but steady.
 
OUTLAW
OUTLAW 3 hours ago


Don't think I can do it that way, too many people will push me until the truth comes out. Then it'll be off to a JC for me. Nope, gotta take it slow but steady.
Then stay..
There`s a price to pay either way..

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JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue 3 hours ago

Your not going to change the WBT$ from the inside..
Your not going to Save JW`s who are happy where they are..
I don't see a ton of happy people when I look around my family included. We are all pretty much glued in because of other family members. Not looking to save anyone but for all I know there are already others there with severe doubts just like I had.
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NeverAllowestobeMyself 2 hours ago

I think you can. Over the last couple of years I have given well thought out comments that have resulted in people saying to me after the meeting "your comment really made me think."
The trick is to not say anything that can be used as a basis for an "investigation" conducted by two elders during a "shepherding call".
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OUTLAW
OUTLAW 2 hours ago


I don't see a ton of happy people when I look around my family included.
Unhappy JWs will tell you how much they love being a JW..
They`ll fight to the death,to stay right where they are..
If you want to live a lie,that`s on you.
It will eat at you and you`ll die a little bit at a time..

It`s up to you,do what ever you want..

 

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JW_Rogue 2 hours ago

There`s a price to pay either way..
LOL Like I haven't thought about that, my situation doesn't exactly leave me with a ton of options. I have to distance myself from this org in a way that doesn't push away family or friends. Even non DF'd people can be marked and pretty much treated the same as DF'd. Nope, I have to seem like I slowly drifted away, that I'm "lazy" not that I'm an apostate.
 
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Dreamerdude 2 hours ago
Maybe I'm idealistic, but I thing some comments with a tinge of TTATT can add some CD to get people thinking, maybe in combination with other things going around. In my case I found the CD to be cumulative, until I reached the tipping point during a particularly ridiculous talk by a GB member.
 
Dreamerdude
Dreamerdude 2 hours ago
Extremely cultish comments have the same effect. Like saying a guy that's 23 and still not a MS is not marriage material, or worthy of getting laid.
 
JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue 2 hours ago

If you want to live a lie,that`s on you.
Been doing it for 35 years...a few more months for a better outcome isn't going to hurt anybody.
 
OUTLAW
OUTLAW 2 hours ago


I have to distance myself from this org in a way that doesn't push away family or friends.
DA`d..DF`d..or...A Weak JW..
Not exactly desirable company to Loyal WBT$ JWs..
You`ll be marked..

 
OUTLAW
OUTLAW 2 hours ago


Been doing it for 35 years...
LOL!!..
35 years??!!..Wow..
You don`t have a lot of years left.....

 
smiddy
smiddy 2 hours ago

JW_ Rogue
You have been doing it for 35 years ? , and what have you achieved in that time ?what makes you think a few more months is going to make any difference ?
Just asking
You have to ask yourself this question : Do I want my life to be manipulated by other people ? or am I going to live my life the way I want to live it.
smiddy
 
JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue 2 hours ago

35 years??!!..Wow..
Yes, since the day I was born I was a JW. Was there really choice? No, might as well have been born with little suit and tie and tract to hand the householder. I don't think I ever really believed it though there was always part of me that knew it was all BS. That I was just acting, that believing was what I was "supposed" to do. That good people had faith or at least pretended like they did by doing and saying all the right things. Maybe some people feel differently but that's how I feel.
 
JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue 2 hours ago

You have to ask yourself this question : Do I want my life to be manipulated by other people ? or am I going to live my life the way I want to live it.
I gave away the power I had to truly do things on my terms at 12 years of age. You can say don't play their games but right now they are holding all the cards. The only power I have is to lie or be completely silent. Leaving on my terms would mean speaking my mind and not giving a damn. I can't do that...too much at stake.
 
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disposable hero of hypocrisy 2 hours ago

In answer to your original question, yes, you can.
But you must be careful, and in personal conversation frame things in questions. Just giving a fact here or a quotation there can get defenses up, and that can come back to bite you in the ass. I've had success in that way.
If you mean in the congregation, answering up, then I think possibly, but you have to be even more careful as the eldubs will be listening too and you don't want to get put on the radar.
If you have to be there (I share your pain bro) then good Christian answers can redirect the hate propaganda sometimes, and can show people that you know what you're talking about scripturally. This could come in handy in the future if word gets out about your doubts, 'brother rogue apparently has doubts? But he's such a knowledgeable brother. Maybe he's onto something...'




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Sometimes I get the impression that my wife wants me to come clean about what I'm thinking but then my brain says don't do it...



 
poopsiecakes
poopsiecakes an hour ago

It's so hard to see situations like this. I absolutely understand the family and social pull and breaking away from all of that is the most difficult scenario to be a part of. I've seen people who have just blown everything up and walked away, some who have tried to quietly walk away and ultimately been blown apart and those who are still trying to 'fade' and feel forced into living a lie every day of their lives. Outlaw is absolutely right, every choice has its consequences and all of them mean that you won't have the same relationship with the people you're allowing to control you at this moment. Short term pain is worth more than long term deceit and the toll that takes on everyone, including you. (my two cents)
 
JW_Rogue
JW_Rogue an hour ago

My wife: How do you feel about the truth?
Me: I don't want to talk about it
My wife: Actions speak louder than words and right now I don't see you doing much for the truth? Have you just gotten lazy?
Me: What do you think? Does that seem like me?
My wife: I guess not
END OF CONVERSATION
 
poopsiecakes
poopsiecakes an hour ago

And that's great, Rogue. Small victory there, until you break down the actual conversation. You're using JW speak (the truth) when you talk to her. I get what you're doing, but you're not helping the situation in the long term. Instead of saying 'the truth', try 'the religion' or 'the corporation' and see how that goes. Cognitive dissonance manifests itself in many different ways and you may be suffering from it somewhat. Be true to YOU and what YOU believe and want for YOU. Otherwise, you'll always be on this treadmill and nobody wants that for you or anyone.
 
Crazyguy
Crazyguy 33 minutes ago
I was able to wake up a friend but he was already going threw marriage problems and the elders weren't treating him well either. It seems to me that people need to go through something emotional first to start the proccess.
 
smiddy
smiddy 32 minutes ago

I don`t mean to sound cynical , do I get the impression there may be a financial loss in your walking away from your family and this religion ?
just asking
smiddy
 

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Part 3 of maybe not so relevant information, but nice to know and opening my eyes during the past years, were this pictures of an official Watchtower representative attending a meeting between the Austrian government and the country's main religions. I don't know who the representative is, no names, no face, I cut and past it from some website.





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So what? A Meeting between some government institution and representatives of religious groups, what's the problem? Does that have to be some conspiracy-thing? The government perhaps wants to discuss some planned changes in legislation towards religious groups and wishes the opinion of the named groups. Perhaps they want to know how the climate can be better between them and the groups. Perhaps they want to know whether the groups want to be involved in some charity work towards refugges - who knows? Two pictures, so what?
 

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part 3 of maybe not so relevant information, but nice to know and opening my eyes during the past years, were this pictures of an official watchtower representative attending a meeting between the austrian government and the country's main religions.

i don't know who the representative is, no names, no face, i cut and past it from some website.

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is it possible to have an effect from the inside?

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the next book we study will be "god's kingdom rules!

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