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by elbib 9 hours ago 7 Replies latest an hour ago   watchtower beliefs
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elbib 9 hours ago

According to Quantum Theory and non-locality, two particles, can act in unity. For example, take A and B (photons or electrons for example). Pair them, then separate them, and put them on either side of the planet. Stimulate particle A, and particle B will react without any perceivable time delay.
In other words both particles act at the same moment in time regardless of distance. This is remarkable right, how can this be? We need to have a physical connection, we need to observe some kind of interconnecting frequency waveform or something! This also means we’ve got an interaction between particles happening way beyond the speed of light,
Let us now duplicate the above drama. Take two conscious entities—Supreme Father in heaven, and some “chosen ones” in the Writing Department in Brooklyn : Father gets a stimulation that He should transfer some vital information to the few in the Writing Department, and causes the same stimulation in the recipients and transfers the information. [This is very much possible as parties involved are much more than mere photons or electrons.] Yet, Writing Department made many mistakes! What would vouch for this unnatural outcome from this 'spirit-guided org'?
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ttdtt
ttdtt 9 hours ago

Quantum effects can not be compared to ANYTHING or have any effect in the MACRO world.
NONE.
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konceptual99
konceptual99 9 hours ago
But the observation that for some odd reason Jehovah God is able to determine the operation of every particle in the universe yet can't get the GB to write anything down that remains consistent and truthful is certainly true.
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elbib
elbib 8 hours ago

Answer could be: Either God did not use His spirit to guide the organization, or when He sent His spirit, WC did not listen at all because of their preconceived ideas - their own opinions, prejudices, conclusions - and these obviously became a barrier and prevented them from listening. After all, if one is to listen, one must be attentive. And there is no attention if one is occupied with one's own thoughts, conclusions, opinions, evaluations -then all communication ceases. Communication is not a one-sided affair. Both the parties must be in communion with each other in all aspects.
 
konceptual99
konceptual99 8 hours ago
The answer could be it's all bollocks.
 
Vidiot
Vidiot 2 hours ago


elbib - "Science disproves JW claims..."
Pshh.
Basic common sense disproves JW claims.
:smirk:
 
Crazyguy
Crazyguy an hour ago
Science disproves the bible period.
 
sparky1
sparky1 an hour ago



"Don't ask me why Jehovah can't get through to his Governing Body(tm). I've been a theoretical physicist for my entire career and it has me completely baffled!" - David Bohm
 

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by Terry 4 hours ago 4 Replies latest 25 minutes ago   watchtower scandals
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Matthew 24:14  And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
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boon·dog·gle

ˈbo͞onˌdäɡəl,-ˌdôɡəl/
NORTH AMERICANinformal
noun



1.1.

work or activity that is wasteful or pointless but gives the appearance of having value.
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In 1968, Jehovah’s Witnesses published a little blue book, The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life.


Inside the book, a controversial claim was made about the year 1975.
Specifically, it was stated 1975 would be “The end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on Earth.” _________
For the next 8 years, Jehovah’s Witnesses distributed 65 million of those books worldwide (for a contribution of .25 cents. (That’s about 16 million $$ dollars worth.) https://news.google.com/newspapersnid=1346&dat=19741218&id=caROAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0PoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7210,5306041
_____________
 HOW MANY people were actually warned about this phony boondoggle event?
For those 8 years of “warning” about the impending doom involving worldwide famine and overpopulation, the best Jehovah's Witnesses could do was sell 65 million books, with millions of people yet to be born even while the parents of those babies still were reading them!
18,144,000 babies were born while Jehovah's Witnesses were "warning" about 1975.

WE NEED TO ASK a logical question at this point. Since the majority of Earth’s population weren’t reached:
HOW EFFECTIVE was this ‘warning’?
__________
Let’s create a “best case” scenario just for the sake of a thought experiment, shall we?
Currently, we’ll say there are 8 million JW’s worldwide, each spending 10 hours a month.
The current population of Earth is 7 BILLION!
How effective can Jehovah’s Witnesses be failing to reach the other 6 Billion each month?
But wait--there’s more!
Women are pregnant all over the world. Every day women are getting pregnant and giving birth.
There are 9 months worth of babies on the way at any moment in time, or (5,013,000 pending).
Each day = 216,000 babies born
Each month = 657,000 babies born
WHAT’s WRONG with this PICTURE?
_____________
The obvious conclusion is this: it is mathematically impossible to fulfill Matthew 24: 14 If God truly was using Jehovah’s Witnesses!
_______________________________________________________________
Note: The little blue book, when reprinted, no longer contained doomsday predictions! Why? Not only was 1975 not the year of worldwide famine and overpopulation, it wasn’t marked by the commencement of the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ! All those man hours were spent on FALSE PROPHECY!
The entire 8 years spent by every member of Jehovah’s Witnesses contacting as many people and baptizing them as quickly as possible was ALL FOR NOTHING unless you count the $16 million dollars made off the contributions for the books or the increase in membership under false pretenses. Honestly, this was all an enormous waste of everybody’s time, energy, and efforts.
_________
Who set this worthless activity into motion? Where else could such an embarrassing historical failure be rewarded like this? It was the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses under Nathan H. Knorr and Fred Franz. Subsequently, Knorr died and Franz was promoted to the Presidency of the Watchtower Organization.
If you ask any member of Jehovah’s Witnesses today about these events they’ll give you a blank stare and shrug it off as mere propaganda created by former members lying and exaggerating.
But, we know who the real liars are and how feckless their activities are, don’t we?
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1968 EDITION followed by changes in the 1981 EDITION


boon·dog·gle

ˈbo͞onˌdäɡəl,-ˌdôɡəl/
NORTH AMERICANinformal
noun



1.1.

work or activity that is wasteful or pointless but gives the appearance of having value.

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Darkknight757
Darkknight757 4 hours ago

Nice post!😊
If God were truly blessing the dubs then we would see mass conversions similar to what was seen in the first century.
 
sir82
sir82 4 hours ago

Not to mention having virtually no contact with about 1/2 of the world's population (China, India, Muslim nations).
One more opportunity to post my thought:
If there really were a "Jehovah" as the JWs paint him, and he really did commission them to perform a "worldwide preaching work", he'd execute the lot of them in a giant fiery hailstone for the piss-poor muck-up they've made of the assignment.

 
Terry
Terry 3 hours ago

Considering how 'recent' this event was, we should be flabbergasted at how easily Jehovah's Witnesses have been able to escape unscathed from such publicity.
We can surely state this with confidence: if it had happened in the age of the Internet, it would have made the Organization a laughingstock on a scale 100 times greater.
As it is, this is the best possible true propaganda to use against them.
The claims made in the"Truth" book were outrageous exaggerations which didn't stand up to the falsification of a mere eight years!
Entire paragraphs were rewritten or replaced.
_____
"By 1975 civil disorder, anarchy, military dictatorships, runaway inflation, transportation breakdowns and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day in many of the hungry nations."
_________
Compare all of this nonsense with what was said in 1955:
"The very fact that, as part of Jehovah's secret, no one today is able to find out how much time Adam and later Eve lived during the closing days of the sixth creative period, so no one can now determine when six thousand years of Jehovah's present rest day come to an end."
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steve2
steve2 25 minutes ago

And what about the Truth book perpetuating the now-abandoned claim that the generation old enough to discern the start of World War One would not have passed away before the end of this system of things?
That has also gone the way of the do-do bird.
 

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by greenhornet 24 minutes ago 0 Replies latest 24 minutes ago   watchtower beliefs
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logoDid I see this picture on old Watchtower literature?
 

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did i see this picture on old watchtower literature?

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JEHOVAH's Witnesses Historic BOONDOGGLE
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matthew 24:14 and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.. ________________.

north americaninformal.

noun.

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matthew 6:15 are jesus' own words on how to deal with a sinner.

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according to quantum theory and non-locality, two particles, can act in unity.

for example, take a and b (photons or electrons for example).

pair them, then separate them, and put them on either side of the planet.

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it's interesting to me anyway to see what the bible says the timeline of mankind is in relation to reality.

abraham was born roughly 2000 bce .

let's think about this for a moment.

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we are all familiar with the story of the god jehovah saving jerusalem from the assyrians by sending and angel that killed 185000 soldier's.

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