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by ttdtt 13 hours ago 39 Replies latest 2 minutes ago jw experiences
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Lesson 22: One Man, One Woman
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/
Disgusting!
FayeDunaway
FayeDunaway 13 hours ago
Sorry i dont watch witness videos because they make me physically ill, but this doesnt surprise me. Jehovahs witnesses: preaching intolerance from infancy.
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freemindfade
freemindfade 13 hours ago
That was awful, I hope this one bites them in the ass like the Noah one! Sick!
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ToesUp
ToesUp 13 hours ago
It will bite them!
JustVisting
JustVisting 13 hours ago
Gotta love the trademark WT seal of approval at the end of these productions.
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BlackWolf
BlackWolf 13 hours ago
Man! My dads probably gonna make us watch this crap at our next family worship, and then my moms going to go on and on about how disgusting gay people are like usual. Little do they know I'm actually bisexual :frowning: This video makes me sad.
Edit: my mom just watched it and she thought it was risque!
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Village Idiot
Village Idiot 13 hours ago
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steve2
steve2 13 hours ago
Given the sheer number of gay and lesbian individuals "produced" in JW marriages, this is indeed rich in irony. The equivalent of being made to reject the very individuals they have brought into the world.
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dbq407
dbq407 12 hours ago
Could be bad PR for them if the right person sees it.
I like how paradise is gonna have a security check point like at the airport now. Good job WT.
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dubstepped
dubstepped 12 hours ago
Mom: "What can you tell Carrie at school?"
Sophia: "Well, I can tell Carrie about paradise and about how her mommies are going to die right on the cusp of it in a fiery Armageddon. Afterward Carrie and I can help bury their bodies once the birds pick them clean and we can live forever happy, because you know, Carrie won't even miss her mommies."
That's how it should have ended. Disgusting.
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ToesUp
ToesUp 12 hours ago
dubstepped said it all. That is HOW it should have been portrayed. The reality!
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Gefangene
Gefangene 12 hours ago
Dubstepped pls excuse the "dislike" on your posting. I wanted to hit "like" and I accidentally hit dislike by mistake. Great thoughts!
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scotsman
scotsman 12 hours ago
Is it saying gay people are like bombs? Or maybe we're just like a large can of shaving gel?
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Pete Zahut
Pete Zahut 12 hours ago
That was awful, I hope this one bites them in the ass like the Noah one! Sick!
What happened in regard to the Noah Video? I hadn't heard anything about that.
I think JW's would probably call this a "Pro Hetro Marriage video" rather than an "Anti-Gay Marriage Video".
I can't help but notice how the messages in these videos are way too obvious "on the nose". Everything they support is portrayed in a hyper-idealistic way. The homes are as neat as a pin and nicely decorated, the Dad's are always handsome and strapping and the moms are always pretty and feminine and the kids are cute, chipper and easy to reason with.
Did you notice that in the idealistic "paradise scene", the boys jumping into the water were wearing shirts? Wouldn't want to anyone to get the wrong idea by showing boys swimming immodestly without their shirts on. Even the most subtle detail is covered by their calculated message.
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fulltimestudent 11 hours ago
steve2: Given the sheer number of gay and lesbian individuals "produced" in JW marriages, this is indeed rich in irony.
And, we should not forget that the witnesses say that same sex attracted people can 'change.' But the evidence is that they do not change, they merely live a life of deceit, attempting to be 'straight.' Ask the wives (or, former wives) of so many people who tried to 'change' in the watchtower way. These sad guys do not experience heterosexual sexual attraction. They are the victims of christian fraud (the JWs are not the only christian group who make this claim).
The second false claim in the above video, is that God created humans, "male and female." Simplistic thinkers like the witnesses think that having a penis or vagina, makes you male of female. But the reality is that sex and gender (two different things) is much more complex than that.
All humans born of women (and that includes the historical Jesus) started life in a form that can be described as gender neutral, or even female. Take a look at the following 2 videos to glimpse reality and not the fake social construction foisted on the poor bloody kids in the above JW video.
And, as for women (and the so-called womanly virtues in the fake 'christian' social construction) they too are very different to the image of women in the above video, as the following video will demonstrate.
The reality of human life, contrasted with the fake social construction taught by the witnesses, tells us something else. It tells us why the witnesses discourage tertiary (university) education. Never let the facts spoil a fictional story.
One last thing: There were many males in ancient Israel who were prepared to have sex with other men. Open your bibles children and turn to 1 Kings 14:24:
And there were also sodomites in the land. (KJV):
An interesting story, because a more accurate translation is that they were male temple prostitutes. So now we have a mental picture of many small temples across Israel, and inside you could find a man prepared to have sex with another man. Now prostitutes have customers, so we may imagine a number of visitors each day to each of these temples and inside an (unknown) number of 'male temple prostitutes' all offering an exalted spiritual experience through their sexual skills. Not quite what the WTS teaches about ancient Israel.
Viewed from that perspective, the description of David at 1 Samuel 18:1 take on a special poignancy:
1Now it came about when he had finished speaking to Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself.
Now jump across to 2 samuel 1: 26:
How I weep for you, my brother Jonathan! Oh, how much I loved you! And your love for me was deep, deeper than the love of women! (NLT)
or this version:
English Standard Version : I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant have you been to me; your love to me was extraordinary, surpassing the love of women.
Faced with this information, how can anyone argue that the relationship between the younger David and the older Jonathon, did not have a sexual connection?
It may distress some whose minds refuse to accept the evidence to think of David ( a type of Jesus) kissing Jonathon, but however much conservative Christians may try to argue it away, the evidence stares us in the face, since in the ancient world the older usually penetrated the younger, we must imagine Jonathon penetrating David (likely not just once, but a number of times), and providing such a memorable experience that David never forgot how wonderful his love affair with Jonathon was.
Now lets skip through the centuries to the time of King James himself,
King James I
as I'm sure everyone knows, James set up a committee and personally presided at many of its meetings to produce a new translation o the Bible, a translation that had a marked affect on the English language, and is particularly liked by many modern Christians.
I find it also poignant that James (even though married with children) preferred to have sex with men. In a different world arrangement his Royal partner would have been a male.
Here's a quote from a web-site on the British Royal family:
He also sought solace with extravagant and unsavoury male favourites ( http://www.britroyals.com/kings.asp?id=james1 )
I'm not sure about the judgemental statements evident in the word unsavoury. The English nobility could likely be said to have been 'unsavoury.'
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Captain Schmideo2
Captain Schmideo2 11 hours ago
"And after you tell her about the Paradise, be sure to tell her that if her mommies don't change, they'll die at Armageddon! Share the fear!"
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Heaven
Heaven 11 hours ago
Is this JW video available on YouTube? I don't like going to jw dot Borg.
And remember, Paul, Christianity's foundational figure, circumcised his adult male friend Timothy. We all know the ancient Jewish circumcision technique, right...right?
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respectful_observer
respectful_observer 11 hours ago
@1:55 "...people can change!" I'm sure LGBT would all agree with that statement.
And what would she tell her classmate? The paradise, the animals (everyone gets a pet panda), and the resurrection. Hmmmm....nothing about God killing her moms first? I wonder why not?
wifibandit
wifibandit 10 hours ago
Wasanelder Once
Wasanelder Once 10 hours ago
Carrie will obviously drop her moms like carry on luggage. So clear and clever. In this case carry on would become carrion. Ba Dum Tish!
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Heaven 9 hours ago
Thanks wifibandit.
Jehovah wants everyone to be in paradise?
Uh, no he doesn't. He doesn't want the Catholics, the Jews, the homosexuals, the transgenders, the bisexuals, the transvestites, the hemophiliacs, the apostates, people with turrets syndrome ... you know, anyone who isn't a healthy, young, able-bodied, able-minded heterosexual Jehovah's Witness.
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jwjono
jwjono 9 hours ago
I find this rather sad. Homosexuals don't hurt anyone. They are just two people who love each other. They didn't show what happens if the man does take the bag through the check portal. Will he get zapped by lightening? Or will the angels come and take him away?
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breakfast of champions
breakfast of champions 9 hours ago
Why are they even going here? Gay marriage and parenting is EXTREMELY rare. It is likely your school-age child will NEVER meet a classmate with two moms or dads.
So why do they produce this shit? Why is this issue so fucking important they have to make a cartoon?
Because they don't have an original thought of their own and are following right along with all of the religious Right propaganda bullshit.
What a bunch of assholes.
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stuckinarut2
stuckinarut2 9 hours ago
Wow!
Perhaps this could be forwarded to some relevant anti discrimination organisations?
Is this to combat the influence of shows like "modern family"?
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Jehalapeno
Jehalapeno 8 hours ago
This video makes Jehalapeño sad.
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just fine
just fine 8 hours ago
This kind of crap is just them trying to judge others as less worthy of God. I have met some really wonderful people who happen to be gay. I was just visiting with a lesbian couple I know tonight and one of them has Mormon family that are giving her a really hard time right now. Why can't they just love other people the way they are. It's so sad.
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kairos
kairos 8 hours ago
What they don't show is the practice session to follow:
Tactics to fool the young school girl into having a secret bible study, joining the cult so she can shun the two women that raised her.
Real nice...
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konceptual99
konceptual99 8 hours ago
The great thing about this video is that it shows that anyone who is doing anything that the Bible condemns can't get through the big A. It is a clear example of the reality of Armageddon as requiring the destruction of billions and the truth about what Witness doctrine really teaches despite the protestations that it's all up to God to judge and won't kill anyone deserving of life.
So the next time a Witness throws that wishy washy line at you just use their own kids video against them and ask them what it's really saying about who can get on the narrow road to life found by few as compared to the broad and spacious road full of billions of people trudging off to destruction
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Billy the Ex-Bethelite 7 hours ago
It would seem from this video that the only reason JWs get married is because it makes Hojovah happy. Mom made no statements about how much she enjoyed being married to her husband and how wonderful the "one man and one woman" marriage and "biblical" family arrangement was.
Nope. No personal testimony from Sophia's mom about the wonderfulness of heterosexuality. Rather, she made it sound like homosexuality was something that everyone had to give up in order to please god. You know, like birthday parties and Christmas presents and Halloween costumes and Easter candy and after-school sports and music and a university education and a hundred other fun and potentially beneficial activities.
So, it's not that people really want to be straight. It's just that they have to give up being gay or being "two moms" in order to please Hojovah.
I suspect that the parents of Caleb and Sophia may have a sham marriage.
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kairos
kairos 6 hours ago
I still can't get over the fact they promote a web site and watch cartoons in the KH...
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wizzstick
wizzstick 5 hours ago
This way well go viral.
I truly hope so.
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atomant
atomant 5 hours ago
Just imagine being married to the same partner for eternity. Just imagine.
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stuckinarut2
stuckinarut2 4 hours ago
I wonder if witnesses will use THIS video out in service?
Hmmm....guess not!
Its a typical "in house" video!
poopsiecakes
poopsiecakes 3 hours ago
I saw this video today. Made me feel horrible that I actually thought this way in my life. :frowning:
punkofnice
punkofnice 2 hours ago
This video needs getting out there and exposing. The media needs to see this. Gay rights organisations need to see this too.............not sure who or how, but..hey...
sir82
sir82 2 hours ago
"people can change"
Lovely.
As if it were as simple as dropping a suitcase, or changing from purple socks to black ones.
The WTS has just reinforced their policy of driving gay JW kids (and adults, for that matter) to suicide because they can't just "change". And if they can't "change", well then they aren't "Jehovah's friend".
"Better to off myself on my own terms than wait for Jehovah to do it with a flaming hailstone at Armageddon."
WTS, you have blood on your hands....yet again.
Defianttruth
Defianttruth 38 minutes ago
Poor Children. Both of the children in the video have it tough. The girl with the two mom's has to live with being the "not normal" child, and the other child has to deal with being raised a Jehovah's Witness. Essentially, WTBS is encouraging a little girl to go to school and disrespect the beliefs of others constitutionally given rights. Can you imagine the damage that could be done to this sweet child with two momma's. Hey your mommas are going to roast like bbq on armageddon.
jookbeard
jookbeard 36 minutes ago
pretty sick vile stuff even by their standards ,force-feeding hate and homophobia to very young children. Their simplistic dumb answers to this issue leave me speechless, their stupidity seems to grow even deeper. I really do struggle to watch this utter evil persona of Caleb and Sophia's mother, this is the second vid I've watched after the Sparlock Wizard one, she comes across as deeply mentally disturbed , borderline or on the way to a full psychopath, with a narcissistic streak, probably asexual, and a victim of abuse herself, a dictator, even possibly bipolar,someone who would be classed as "wearing the trousers" in the household but strangely diametrically opposed to the meek,submissive,quiet archetypical jw housewife, a truly vile character.
steve2
steve2 20 minutes ago
Even from a heterosexual perspective,Biblical marriage is depicted as between a man and a women, with citations from Genesis. Really? So thousands of men having more than one wife are wiped from the record in order to portray the idyllic one mother and one father and children.
Given the topic, I think the video played it very safe: Not one pejorative comment was made about "the two moms" beyond "people have their own ideas". It will be hard to classify any of it as hate speech.
sir82
sir82 7 minutes ago
I think the video played it very safe: Not one pejorative comment was made about "the two moms" beyond "people have their own ideas". It will be hard to classify any of it as hate speech.
WTS lawyers were undoubtedly ALL OVER this, reviewing every syllable with excruciating detail.
The WTS is reprehensibly homophobic, but they retain their cleverness quotient.
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arwen 18 hours ago
Found some old books of my ex. Really old. Any suggestions?? Is it worth eBay? Or dump them?
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Anders Andersen
Anders Andersen 18 hours ago
Which titles?
dbq407
dbq407 18 hours ago
ebay them, i'm sure they are worth something.
arwen
arwen 17 hours ago
Equipped for every good work. New heavens and a new earth. New world translation 1950. Nations shall know. 1970. I'll get them laid out n take a photo. They need to go!!
NeverKnew
NeverKnew 17 hours ago
I messaged you.
If iyou're in the states the shipping costs may be tolerable for me depending on what you have 😀
Village Idiot
Village Idiot 17 hours ago
Don't toss them, just give them away to someone who can use them.
PS: Don't bother with eBay, they're not really old books - late 1800s - that can fetch you a modest amount of money.
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arwen
arwen 17 hours ago
I am in Canada till November.
Crazyguy
Crazyguy 16 hours ago
I'm sure someone here may want them including myself.
arwen
arwen 16 hours ago
I am trying to figure out how to post the pictures. Any tips?
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Athanasius 8 hours ago
The New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures (1950) is selling for as much as $75.00 on Amazon. They also have a Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures (1985) for $28.99. Surprisingly some JW books and Bibles are worth money, especially if the number printed was relatively small and they are in excellent condition. So put them up for sale.
It doesn't hurt to get some monetary compensation for time spent in JW prison.
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Pete Zahut
Pete Zahut 8 hours ago
Don't destroy them whatever you do. These books will one day be the only proof of the JW false prophesies and crazy past advice to their followers and skewed Bible reasonings. The Watchtower Society wants these old books to go away.
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berrygerry
berrygerry 6 hours ago
IMO, the keepers are:
Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" (1986) Grey - "Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members."
The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life (1968) - And he warned: "I know enough of what is going on to assure you that, in fifteen years from today this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."
"By 1975 civil disorder, anarchy, military dictatorships, runaway inflation, transportation breakdowns and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day in many of the hungry nations."
The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah (1971) - "Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."
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smiddy
smiddy 2 hours ago
These older publications of the WTB&TS are a testimony to the false prophecy`s this Religious organization spread across the western world in the day of their publication.
I regret the day I dumped many books of the organization into the rubbish bin.
I could have used them to effectively anti-witness at least.
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found some old books of my ex.
any suggestions??
is it worth ebay?
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is it possible to have an effect from the inside?
with well thought comments that reveal more of the history of the organization?
the next book we study will be "god's kingdom rules!
Crazyguy
smiddy
Half banana
an hour ago
Captain Schmideo2
Cult Think-How to deflate good news
by Captain Schmideo2 in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Friends
10 hours ago
me:"my son is going to south korea to teach english.
he'll get to live in another country, expand his horizons, and live comfortably while he is there!
"deeply devout jw brother-in-law:"oh, it's really bad in south korea.
Gorbatchov
2
Watchtower delegation present at Austria government meeting with religion leaders
by Gorbatchov in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Friends
11 hours ago
maybe not relevant at all, another picture from my deep storage archive, with on it an official austria watchtower delegation meeting with government and religion leaders of that country.. .
wifibandit
wannaexit
10 hours ago
purrpurr
33
Were you beaten as a child?
by purrpurr in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Personal Experiences & Reunions
12 hours ago
i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.
particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.
not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.
Aprostate Exam
stuckinarut2
joey jojo
4 hours ago
wasone
17
A flash from the past
by wasone in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Friends
12 hours ago
this is a photo of the bethel repair shop taken in 1976. anyone recognize any of these lads from 40 years ago.
i know it's a long shot, but was wondering how many were still in after all these years.
i remember a few of them.
wasone
wasone
berrygerry
6 hours ago
ttdtt
38
New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org
by ttdtt in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Personal Experiences & Reunions
13 hours ago https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.
disgusting!.
Defianttruth
jookbeard
steve2
30 minutes ago
Crazyguy
3
Can a small child be taken out of state without the other parents permission?
by Crazyguy in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Friends
15 hours ago
parents are still together not divorced.
one parent a jw wants to take a small child around age 7 out of state for a few months but other parents wants the child to stay home.
if the child is taken out of state can the parent that doesn't want him to go do anything?
OnTheWayOut
the girl next door
the girl next door
14 hours ago
stephanie61092
2
A memoir in the making - good read
by stephanie61092 in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Personal Experiences & Reunions
16 hours ago
hello friends,.
i was on he ex jw reddit page the other day and came across a posting from a woman who has become a successful author.
she was raised a jw in new york and pioneered at one point in her life.
jaydee
ShirleyW
8 hours ago
arwen
13
Old books!
by arwen in Jehovah's Witnesses
» Friends
18 hours ago
found some old books of my ex.
any suggestions??
is it worth ebay?
Pete Zahut
berrygerry
smiddy
2 hours ago
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