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Soth Park Episode on History of the Mormons
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I know this episode has been discussed I'm sure many times, but I just got my TBM wife to watch it later this afternoon. My son and I (he's 17) were discussing how funny it was at lunch and my wife thought it would be funny to watch it too. So we looked it up on youtube (thank gawd for that site). She laughed her head off, until it got toward the end of segment when the kid asks the family that Mormon's know this story and still believe it. She kind of got quiet after that.
At one point she asked, "are they saying 'dum' or 'dumb?'" I said I thought they were saying "dumb." When it got to the part of Sister Harris, you know - "smart, smart, smart, smart, SMART," it became rather obvious that "dumb" meant...well, "DUMB."
Just the fact that she laughed was really good. And I'm so glad my boy looks at this and thinks its funny too. Maybe there's hope for us yet! Today's been a good day.
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Dum da da dum dum DUMB!
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You'd be surprised at how many mormons think the creators of South Park are LDS. While I was in Provo, one of my friends showed us the clip where the director of Hell says the only people in heaven are the mormons. They don't see how this is mocking them at all.
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Hi, yogaman,
That episode of South Park is hilarious. Boy, those wacky Mormons are top-notch comedy fodder, aren't they?
Congrats on getting an amused reaction from your wife. Maybe she's not as TBM as you fear?
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My comment after seeing that for the first time (mind you I was already a Post-Mo!) was "well there was nothing about a hat. They totally got that wrong."
LMAO.
I thought one of the South Park guys was a former Mormon. They also made the movie Orgasmo which had a Mormon plot. (missionary turned porn star or something.)
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Posted: 02 December 2007 06:31 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 5 ]
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I made my Mom watch that episode with me when she came to Logan for Thanksgiving... she thought it was funny, but I think parts of it made her sad. Maybe it was too soon for her to see it.
I will keep that South Park episode on my DVR until I move again... when I feel like I need a good laugh I just press play.
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Posted: 02 December 2007 10:27 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 6 ]
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I thought one of the South Park guys was a former Mormon. They also made the movie Orgasmo which had a Mormon plot. (missionary turned porn star or something.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yyPJg02Aak&feature=related
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Posted: 02 December 2007 11:27 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 7 ]
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I thought one of the South Park guys was a former Mormon. They also made the movie Orgasmo which had a Mormon plot. (missionary turned porn star or something.)
Nope. Neither of them were ever LDS. But seriously, in Provo, half the celebrities out there are mormon.
Posted: 03 December 2007 12:24 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 8 ]
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When I was first starting out down the rabbit hole - had already left and was finding out the true history - my brother told me the hat thing was true and I laughed for about an hour. When I realized SP was more honest than Morg, I don't know... I still find it massively amusing.
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Posted: 03 December 2007 12:27 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 9 ]
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I thought one of the South Park guys was a former Mormon. They also made the movie Orgasmo which had a Mormon plot. (missionary turned porn star or something.)
Nope. Neither of them were ever LDS. But seriously, in Provo, half the celebrities out there are mormon.
Wait... are you implying that those celebs are really not mormon?
Will the lies never end? Only reason I sticked around was to land a hot celeb wife!
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Posted: 03 December 2007 03:57 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 10 ]
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I know this episode has been discussed I'm sure many times, but I just got my TBM wife to watch it later this afternoon. My son and I (he's 17) were discussing how funny it was at lunch and my wife thought it would be funny to watch it too. So we looked it up on youtube (thank gawd for that site). She laughed her head off, until it got toward the end of segment when the kid asks the family that Mormon's know this story and still believe it. She kind of got quiet after that.
At one point she asked, "are they saying 'dum' or 'dumb?'" I said I thought they were saying "dumb." When it got to the part of Sister Harris, you know - "smart, smart, smart, smart, SMART," it became rather obvious that "dumb" meant...well, "DUMB."
Just the fact that she laughed was really good. And I'm so glad my boy looks at this and thinks its funny too. Maybe there's hope for us yet! Today's been a good day.
Okay, I totally want to see it now!! Can youpost the link to the episode, please?
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Posted: 03 December 2007 05:49 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 11 ]
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MishMagnet:
I thought one of the South Park guys was a former Mormon. They also made the movie Orgasmo which had a Mormon plot. (missionary turned porn star or something.)
Nope. Neither of them were ever LDS. But seriously, in Provo, half the celebrities out there are mormon.
But they grew up in a community in Colorado that had a lot of Mormons.
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When asked by the interviewer, Jake Tapper, If Trey Parker believed in God, Parker replied "Yeah." He cautioned that it would take a long time to explain exactly what he meant by his belief in God. Stone subsequently quipped, "I still don't understand it."
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Posted: 03 December 2007 03:30 PM [ Ignore ] [ # 12 ]
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My understanding is that Trey Parker had a lot of mormon friends (one of his first girlfriends was mormon) and he finds them interesting.
I watched that episode with my wife. You know the phenomenon of it being so quiet that the silence is actually loud? That was what that was like. She did laugh though when it said, "Lucy Harris smart-smart-smart, Martin dumb-dumb-dumb." She was mad at herself for laughing.
Another funny thing about the episode was that my younger brother was telling me about it before I saw it. He's not been to church since he was 14 or so, so he isn't really very mormon. Anyway, he said, "It was funny, but they got some stuff wrong like showing Joseph translating with his head in a hat." I said, "No, that was historically correct." A couple weeks later, my mom called me asking "What's all this about JS and a hat?" I explained it to her and added "It's pretty sad when you get more accurate history about the church in a cartoon than you get in Sunday School, isn't it?" She really didn't have much to say after that.
A coworker recently saw the episode and she was asking me about it. She was stunned when I explained to her that the history was pretty much dead on.
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Here is an interview in which Trey Parker and Matt Stone are asked about religion in general and the "all about the mormons" episode in specific.....
www.reason.com/news/show/116787.html
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Anyway, he said, "It was funny, but they got some stuff wrong like showing Joseph translating with his head in a hat." I said, "No, that was historically correct." A couple weeks later, my mom called me asking "What's all this about JS and a hat?" I explained it to her and added "It's pretty sad when you get more accurate history about the church in a cartoon than you get in Sunday School, isn't it?" She really didn't have much to say after that.
Yeah, that's exactly what I thought too. Earlier this year, my TBM best friend and I were discussing this episode. We both agreed that it was really funny, then I said, "But I don't know where they got that stuff about JS looking in a hat." I figured that had to be incorrect.
She explained that actually, it was true.
And since she has had the "benefit" of going on a mission and taking some kind of "deep doctrine" religion class at BYU (apologist training course maybe?), the whole hat thing was explained to her.
(I can't remember what the BS apologist explanation was though, my brain had temporarily shut down, due to the fact that South Park was more honest than church).
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