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“We are not done yet!” – Candace reacts to appeal court decision
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Posted on April 16, 2015
Candace Conti (pictured in her interview with ABC) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision
Candace Conti (pictured in her interview with ABC) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision
As current and former Jehovah’s Witnesses digest the news that Watchtower’s appeal against the Candace Conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, Candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: “We are not done yet.”
News spread on Monday that the State appeals court in San Francisco had upheld the $2.8 million compensatory damages in the original June 2012 verdict, but overturned the $8.6 million punitive award against Watchtower.
The court decided that, though Watchtower had neglected its responsibility to supervise known pedophile Jonathan Kendrick in field ministry, a “church-sponsored activity,” the organization had NO duty to warn parents in the congregation that a pedophile was in their midst or report him to authorities.
An insightful report by investigative reporter Trey Bundy has suggested that the court reached its decision because the precedent set by the Conti verdict might be too burdensome to enforce.
“The burden would be considerable because the precedent could require a church to intervene whenever it has reason to believe that a congregation member is capable of doing harm, and the scope of that duty could not be limited with any precision,” the judges wrote.
Candace’s attorney Rick Simons responded by pointedly telling Bundy: “They think in public policy terms that there’s too much risk in broadening the church’s responsibility and liability so that it burdens what churches do. We think there’s too much child abuse in these institutions.”
Simons has also gone on record with the Contra Costa Times / Bay City News Service saying: “This is really a public policy issue, and of course we disagree as to what is the best public policy. Ms. Conti is of the view that public policy should favor requiring churches to do all they can to prevent further abuse by identified child molesters from happening, rather than just requiring that they pay money to victims after the abuse occurs.”
Now Candace has herself spoken out, indicating that she is prepared to take this matter all the way to the Supreme Court if she must in order to see children protected and justice fully served.
Referring to the ruling on Monday, Candace told me: “This is just another step. It will not change the amount of money but it might help change the laws. And you know me, I’m all about the laws. We have the chance to make positive changes in the Supreme Court for how children are protected. We may have another year and a half to go.”
When I pressed her on whether she is definitely taking her case to the Supreme Court, Candace replied: “It’s questionable now but we are trying to make the best case, and we might only take it to the Supreme Court if Watchtower takes it there. Other than that we are waiting. The ball is still unfortunately in their court.”
During our exchange I couldn’t help but wonder whether Rick Simons shared Candace’s optimism. After all, it is one thing for Candace to shrug off the financial aspect in such a convoluted legal struggle in favor of pursuing justice, but lawyers are known to be a little more cautious and pragmatic.
“Oh Rick, is the energizer bunny. He is just ready for whatever comes, and is willing to take it as far as I am willing to go!” – Candace assured me.
Whether the case ends up in the Supreme Court remains to be seen. And as Candace indicated, it will depend largely on whether Watchtower is content to lick its wounds and consolidate its losses, or fight to the death under the delusion that Jehovah will carry them to victory against Satan’s hoards.
Before our conversation ended, Candace assured me that she would keep me posted on future developments once the next step in her long journey becomes clear.
Whatever happens next, it is encouraging to see that Candace’s appetite to see justice served is unwavering, and is matched by her lawyer. Let’s hope that political concerns over burdensome “adverse social consequences” yield to basic common sense, and it is finally recognized that, irrespective of local reporting laws, parents deserve to know if a pedophile is in their church and has access to their children.
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◾Trey Bundy’s “Reveal” piece
◾JWsurvey initial reaction to appeal court decision
◾JWsurvey articles on child abuse
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Candace Conti (pictured in her interview with ABC) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision
Candace Conti (pictured in her interview with ABC) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision
As current and former Jehovah’s Witnesses digest the news that Watchtower’s appeal against the Candace Conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, Candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: “We are not done yet.”
News spread on Monday that the State appeals court in San Francisco had upheld the $2.8 million compensatory damages in the original June 2012 verdict, but overturned the $8.6 million punitive award against Watchtower.
The court decided that, though Watchtower had neglected its responsibility to supervise known pedophile Jonathan Kendrick in field ministry, a “church-sponsored activity,” the organization had NO duty to warn parents in the congregation that a pedophile was in their midst or report him to authorities.
An insightful report by investigative reporter Trey Bundy has suggested that the court reached its decision because the precedent set by the Conti verdict might be too burdensome to enforce.
“The burden would be considerable because the precedent could require a church to intervene whenever it has reason to believe that a congregation member is capable of doing harm, and the scope of that duty could not be limited with any precision,” the judges wrote.
Candace’s attorney Rick Simons responded by pointedly telling Bundy: “They think in public policy terms that there’s too much risk in broadening the church’s responsibility and liability so that it burdens what churches do. We think there’s too much child abuse in these institutions.”
Simons has also gone on record with the Contra Costa Times / Bay City News Service saying: “This is really a public policy issue, and of course we disagree as to what is the best public policy. Ms. Conti is of the view that public policy should favor requiring churches to do all they can to prevent further abuse by identified child molesters from happening, rather than just requiring that they pay money to victims after the abuse occurs.”
Now Candace has herself spoken out, indicating that she is prepared to take this matter all the way to the Supreme Court if she must in order to see children protected and justice fully served.
Referring to the ruling on Monday, Candace told me: “This is just another step. It will not change the amount of money but it might help change the laws. And you know me, I’m all about the laws. We have the chance to make positive changes in the Supreme Court for how children are protected. We may have another year and a half to go.”
When I pressed her on whether she is definitely taking her case to the Supreme Court, Candace replied: “It’s questionable now but we are trying to make the best case, and we might only take it to the Supreme Court if Watchtower takes it there. Other than that we are waiting. The ball is still unfortunately in their court.”
During our exchange I couldn’t help but wonder whether Rick Simons shared Candace’s optimism. After all, it is one thing for Candace to shrug off the financial aspect in such a convoluted legal struggle in favor of pursuing justice, but lawyers are known to be a little more cautious and pragmatic.
“Oh Rick, is the energizer bunny. He is just ready for whatever comes, and is willing to take it as far as I am willing to go!” – Candace assured me.
Whether the case ends up in the Supreme Court remains to be seen. And as Candace indicated, it will depend largely on whether Watchtower is content to lick its wounds and consolidate its losses, or fight to the death under the delusion that Jehovah will carry them to victory against Satan’s hoards.
Before our conversation ended, Candace assured me that she would keep me posted on future developments once the next step in her long journey becomes clear.
Whatever happens next, it is encouraging to see that Candace’s appetite to see justice served is unwavering, and is matched by her lawyer. Let’s hope that political concerns over burdensome “adverse social consequences” yield to basic common sense, and it is finally recognized that, irrespective of local reporting laws, parents deserve to know if a pedophile is in their church and has access to their children.
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JW.org has removed their misquote of Rama Singh from digital versions of Awake! magazine
JW.org has removed their misquote of Rama Singh from digital versions of Awake! magazine
Some of you will remember that back in January we reported on the latest example of a Watchtower publication misquoting an academic to get its anti-science views across. Biologist Rama Singh was quoted in the January 2015 Awake! magazine with comments that seemed to suggest he was a denier of evolutionary theory, when in actual fact he is anything but.
“JW has indeed misquoted me and I do not agree with their article and its anti-evolution stand,” he said on being alerted to the matter.
In an open letter to Awake! magazine editors, Singh made this request (bold is mine):
“So I am asking you first to remove the misquotation from your article immediately and second print an unconditional apology for what I consider is a deliberate damaging action on your part to my reputation.”
Well… it seems Awake! has done the first part. Digital versions of the January 2015 Awake! magazine, including the PDF download, no longer feature the Rama Singh quote as the following images show…
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The only thing that is conspicuous by its absence is the second part of Singh’s request – namely a printed, unconditional apology from Awake! editors for misquoting him. Unfortunately for Singh, who has since written about the incident in the Hamilton Spectator, it is extremely doubtful he will receive any such thing.
Despite professing “Christlike humility,” the “spiritual men” who work on the Governing Body’s Writing Committee are not renowned for their willingness to issue apologies or print retractions.
Needless to say, the whole affair smacks of hypocrisy. A religion that is the first to point the finger at others for deception and subterfuge is not above stooping to such methods if it means duping people into embracing their backwards views.
The scandal also makes a mockery of this quote from page 13 of the 2011 Yearbook:
“In summary, the Writing Department insists on using only material that is accurate and truthful, even regarding seemingly insignificant details. As a result, ‘the faithful and discreet slave’ can consistently supply spiritual food that brings honor to ‘the God of truth,’ Jehovah.—Ps. 31:5.”
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Further reading…
◾JWsurvey: Watchtower AGAIN misquotes scientist to argue against evolution – and this time, it’s personal!
◾Hamilton Spectator (by Rama Singh): Religion, science driven by reason
◾INQUISITR: Biology Professor Says Creationist Magazine Misquoted Him To Perpetuate Lies Against Evolution
◾Friendly Atheist: Jehovah’s Witness Publication Cites Professor Who Doubts Evolution… but Professor Says He Was Unfairly Misquoted
◾JWsurvey articles on evolution and creation
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AlF says:
April 23, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Excelsior, Obviously, sir, you need to learn the meaning of the word “euphemism.” Saying I want those people buried does not have to be taken literally. In defense of notanapologist, I assume he knew innocent people died on those planes. He was likely just using a historical event as an analogy to make his point. No need to go through his comments with a fine-tooth comb. As for your “free and fair trial” for the governing body, let me ask you this, did the victims of the watchtower’s molesters get a “fair trial” before they were taken advantage of? And how long will your proposed “re-education” program take, to wean the masses off their opiate of religion? A century, a millennium, or more? By then, our charming Middle Eastern friends will have beheaded, incinerated or thrown us all off tall buildings. Patience is a virtue, sir, but only to a point.
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john says:
May 18, 2015 at 2:47 am
alleged victims you mean. How dare you slander the gb in this way, they are the faithful and discreet slave.
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anonymous says:
May 18, 2015 at 3:17 am
@john, they are the “alleged” faithful and discreet slave until proved to be so.
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Charles Costante says:
May 18, 2015 at 3:38 am
Because they tell you they are, john?!!! They are no more the F&DS than the Pope is God’s representative on earth.
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Excelsior! says:
May 18, 2015 at 4:28 am
John,
Why do you say alleged victims, sir? These cases have been through a trial and so these are CONFIRMED cases.
It is the governing body who have slandered the victims and the ex JWs. Mr Lett accused all of these cases of being apostate driven lies! Mr Lett, a member of the governing body, is a slanderer, not any of us.
What level of proof do you require, John? Is a thorough investigation by the “superior authorities” (Romans 13) not good enough for you? Is a free and fair trial not good enough for you, John?
How can you call the governing body of JWs the “faithful and discreet slave”?
Was it discreet of the governing body to fail to make plans that were within their means for the upcoming service year?
What convinced you that the governing body of the JWs are the faithful and discreet slave, John?
We are not the ones slandering people, John. We are trying to protect children and young people from the paedophiles who operate, seemingly with impunity, in your religion.
I would say that this is a Christian act, wouldn’t you, John?
Please do your own independent research, John.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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Tim smith says:
April 23, 2015 at 7:45 pm
The audio version of the Awake has not changed. It still reads as the original was printed as of yesterday.
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Excelsior! says:
April 24, 2015 at 5:01 am
AIF,
Thank you for your reply. I have just checked the meaning of euphemism and it does not apply here.
An euphemism is where a less controversial word is used to replace one that may be taboo etc.
No, the victims did not have a free and fair trial. They weren’t on trial, were they? They were abused by disgusting individuals who need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. That is something that we both agree with, sir.
As for how long this education programme will take – I have no idea. In my opinion, regardless of how long it takes, it is preferable to aggression and violence. We can, of course, disagree.
I have stated that all religions must be held to account by thr same laws as all citizens. This is something we can all help with by engaging with our Representatives, and lobbying for this.
We must agree to disagree, sir. I thank you sincerely for your polite response. I appreciate it.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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Excelsior! says:
April 24, 2015 at 8:41 am
AIF,
I think the device used by your good self and notanapologist was hyperbole. This is using exaggeration to make a point.
I did not pick up on this, so I apologise for that. I had no context to judge the comments as hyperbole, and there were no punctuation clues, like the use of exclamation marks.
Anyway, point taken, sir. I am glad that we have been able to clarify our opinions in this polite manner.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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AlF says:
April 24, 2015 at 2:54 pm
I think you think too much.
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Swallowtail says:
April 25, 2015 at 3:04 pm
Better to think too much, than not at all. There are far too many people in the world who do the latter unfortunately.
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Excelsior! says:
April 25, 2015 at 4:39 am
AIF,
I don’t agree. Thinking allows one to make decisions, like for example, what to write on a comments section of a blog.
It allows one to consider how what is written will be taken by those reading it. Thinking allows one to consider the consequences of making comments calling for people to be shot without trial, using hyperbole, as perhaps not the most constructive manner of discourse.
I shall continue to think deeply about things, and search for knowledge, as this is who I am. I shall continue to challenge and seek clarification on posts that do not make sense to me.
It is, of course, entirely up to you what you will do.
Whatever it is, I wish you well.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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Flying Dragon says:
April 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm
Excelsior, I have read some of your comments predicting global apocalypse if religion is ever forcibly abolished. My question is, what will all the religious die-hards whom you fear, use to kill the rest of us? Stones, as in Biblical times? It is the secular governments who control the world’s armed Forces. The only viable military threat from organized religion would be the
Swiss Guard at the Vatican. The people of the world are starting to awaken and move toward secularism and atheism, anyway. I don’t see a reason to be a Nervous Nellie about it. You sound a bit like the JDubs, predicting global catastrophe. We can learn something from current events. The Allies hesitated to back the rebels in Syria in their righteous cause of overthrowing a brutal dictatorship, and so ISIS was born from that cauldron. They hesitate once more, and ISIS grows stronger, acquiring more and more territory, wealth, weaponry, manpower, etc. Fear causes hesitation and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true.
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laredac33 says:
April 26, 2015 at 5:37 am
For the french speakers, this article is translated to french here:
https://tjvisioncritique.wordpress.com/
Sincerely
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kat says:
April 26, 2015 at 6:30 pm
If they are not plagiarizing they are misquoting, the FDS/GB has to be trusted regardless, because they are appointed by Christ. What a reputation!
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Excelsior! says:
April 27, 2015 at 4:35 am
Flying Dragon,
Oh dear! Who do you think make up the armies of the world? Are they all atheists, bent on the forcible removal of freedom of choice? Many of those heavily armed and well trained soldiers will be people of faith!
Do you really think that religious people would not be able to get hold of weapons? Of course they could! How many Americans would gladly have their religious faith forcibly removed form them, without reaching for their guns?
I am not ANYTHING like the Jehovah’s Witnesses. That was very insulting, actually.
You state that the world is increasingly becoming secular anyway, so why are you and others getting so upset with me? Surely the passing of time, and better education, will lead to the gradual reduction in power of religion
Why should you or anyone have the right to forcibly remove a major part of people’s lives? Most religious people follow the law and are of no threat to anyone.
I agree that religious cults need to be challenged and compelled, not to drop their religious faith, but to follow the laws as all other citizens do.
If you can show me in history where forcing people to do things against their will turned out peachy, then I would very much like to read about it.
We shall have to agree to disagree.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
Are all religious people so terribly evil, that you and others want to force them to disbelieve?
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Brazilian Guy says:
April 27, 2015 at 9:00 am
I want to become a pioneer as soon as possible!
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Pickled brain says:
April 27, 2015 at 11:16 am
@Brazilian Guy . Most regular pioneers I went to pioneer School with in 1981 are Disfellowshipped or have broken marriages or had Mental Breakdowns (22 out of 30 of my Class ) So Brazilian guy I wish you well!!
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Bearwoody says:
April 28, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Yes, Alexander Thomson is truly another jewel in the Watchtower crown of Biblical Scholars. Verily, I say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Thomson_%28writer%29
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John says:
May 5, 2015 at 5:33 am
Good one Lloyd! Any questions now over why they are obsessed with jw.org? Instant history revisions!
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JW.org has removed their misquote of Rama Singh from digital versions of Awake! magazine
JW.org has removed their misquote of Rama Singh from digital versions of Awake! magazine
Some of you will remember that back in January we reported on the latest example of a Watchtower publication misquoting an academic to get its anti-science views across. Biologist Rama Singh was quoted in the January 2015 Awake! magazine with comments that seemed to suggest he was a denier of evolutionary theory, when in actual fact he is anything but.
“JW has indeed misquoted me and I do not agree with their article and its anti-evolution stand,” he said on being alerted to the matter.
In an open letter to Awake! magazine editors, Singh made this request (bold is mine):
“So I am asking you first to remove the misquotation from your article immediately and second print an unconditional apology for what I consider is a deliberate damaging action on your part to my reputation.”
Well… it seems Awake! has done the first part. Digital versions of the January 2015 Awake! magazine, including the PDF download, no longer feature the Rama Singh quote as the following images show…
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The only thing that is conspicuous by its absence is the second part of Singh’s request – namely a printed, unconditional apology from Awake! editors for misquoting him. Unfortunately for Singh, who has since written about the incident in the Hamilton Spectator, it is extremely doubtful he will receive any such thing.
Despite professing “Christlike humility,” the “spiritual men” who work on the Governing Body’s Writing Committee are not renowned for their willingness to issue apologies or print retractions.
Needless to say, the whole affair smacks of hypocrisy. A religion that is the first to point the finger at others for deception and subterfuge is not above stooping to such methods if it means duping people into embracing their backwards views.
The scandal also makes a mockery of this quote from page 13 of the 2011 Yearbook:
“In summary, the Writing Department insists on using only material that is accurate and truthful, even regarding seemingly insignificant details. As a result, ‘the faithful and discreet slave’ can consistently supply spiritual food that brings honor to ‘the God of truth,’ Jehovah.—Ps. 31:5.”
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AlF says:
April 23, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Excelsior, Obviously, sir, you need to learn the meaning of the word “euphemism.” Saying I want those people buried does not have to be taken literally. In defense of notanapologist, I assume he knew innocent people died on those planes. He was likely just using a historical event as an analogy to make his point. No need to go through his comments with a fine-tooth comb. As for your “free and fair trial” for the governing body, let me ask you this, did the victims of the watchtower’s molesters get a “fair trial” before they were taken advantage of? And how long will your proposed “re-education” program take, to wean the masses off their opiate of religion? A century, a millennium, or more? By then, our charming Middle Eastern friends will have beheaded, incinerated or thrown us all off tall buildings. Patience is a virtue, sir, but only to a point.
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john says:
May 18, 2015 at 2:47 am
alleged victims you mean. How dare you slander the gb in this way, they are the faithful and discreet slave.
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anonymous says:
May 18, 2015 at 3:17 am
@john, they are the “alleged” faithful and discreet slave until proved to be so.
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Charles Costante says:
May 18, 2015 at 3:38 am
Because they tell you they are, john?!!! They are no more the F&DS than the Pope is God’s representative on earth.
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Excelsior! says:
May 18, 2015 at 4:28 am
John,
Why do you say alleged victims, sir? These cases have been through a trial and so these are CONFIRMED cases.
It is the governing body who have slandered the victims and the ex JWs. Mr Lett accused all of these cases of being apostate driven lies! Mr Lett, a member of the governing body, is a slanderer, not any of us.
What level of proof do you require, John? Is a thorough investigation by the “superior authorities” (Romans 13) not good enough for you? Is a free and fair trial not good enough for you, John?
How can you call the governing body of JWs the “faithful and discreet slave”?
Was it discreet of the governing body to fail to make plans that were within their means for the upcoming service year?
What convinced you that the governing body of the JWs are the faithful and discreet slave, John?
We are not the ones slandering people, John. We are trying to protect children and young people from the paedophiles who operate, seemingly with impunity, in your religion.
I would say that this is a Christian act, wouldn’t you, John?
Please do your own independent research, John.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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Tim smith says:
April 23, 2015 at 7:45 pm
The audio version of the Awake has not changed. It still reads as the original was printed as of yesterday.
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Excelsior! says:
April 24, 2015 at 5:01 am
AIF,
Thank you for your reply. I have just checked the meaning of euphemism and it does not apply here.
An euphemism is where a less controversial word is used to replace one that may be taboo etc.
No, the victims did not have a free and fair trial. They weren’t on trial, were they? They were abused by disgusting individuals who need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. That is something that we both agree with, sir.
As for how long this education programme will take – I have no idea. In my opinion, regardless of how long it takes, it is preferable to aggression and violence. We can, of course, disagree.
I have stated that all religions must be held to account by thr same laws as all citizens. This is something we can all help with by engaging with our Representatives, and lobbying for this.
We must agree to disagree, sir. I thank you sincerely for your polite response. I appreciate it.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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Excelsior! says:
April 24, 2015 at 8:41 am
AIF,
I think the device used by your good self and notanapologist was hyperbole. This is using exaggeration to make a point.
I did not pick up on this, so I apologise for that. I had no context to judge the comments as hyperbole, and there were no punctuation clues, like the use of exclamation marks.
Anyway, point taken, sir. I am glad that we have been able to clarify our opinions in this polite manner.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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AlF says:
April 24, 2015 at 2:54 pm
I think you think too much.
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Swallowtail says:
April 25, 2015 at 3:04 pm
Better to think too much, than not at all. There are far too many people in the world who do the latter unfortunately.
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Excelsior! says:
April 25, 2015 at 4:39 am
AIF,
I don’t agree. Thinking allows one to make decisions, like for example, what to write on a comments section of a blog.
It allows one to consider how what is written will be taken by those reading it. Thinking allows one to consider the consequences of making comments calling for people to be shot without trial, using hyperbole, as perhaps not the most constructive manner of discourse.
I shall continue to think deeply about things, and search for knowledge, as this is who I am. I shall continue to challenge and seek clarification on posts that do not make sense to me.
It is, of course, entirely up to you what you will do.
Whatever it is, I wish you well.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
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Flying Dragon says:
April 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm
Excelsior, I have read some of your comments predicting global apocalypse if religion is ever forcibly abolished. My question is, what will all the religious die-hards whom you fear, use to kill the rest of us? Stones, as in Biblical times? It is the secular governments who control the world’s armed Forces. The only viable military threat from organized religion would be the
Swiss Guard at the Vatican. The people of the world are starting to awaken and move toward secularism and atheism, anyway. I don’t see a reason to be a Nervous Nellie about it. You sound a bit like the JDubs, predicting global catastrophe. We can learn something from current events. The Allies hesitated to back the rebels in Syria in their righteous cause of overthrowing a brutal dictatorship, and so ISIS was born from that cauldron. They hesitate once more, and ISIS grows stronger, acquiring more and more territory, wealth, weaponry, manpower, etc. Fear causes hesitation and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true.
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laredac33 says:
April 26, 2015 at 5:37 am
For the french speakers, this article is translated to french here:
https://tjvisioncritique.wordpress.com/
Sincerely
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kat says:
April 26, 2015 at 6:30 pm
If they are not plagiarizing they are misquoting, the FDS/GB has to be trusted regardless, because they are appointed by Christ. What a reputation!
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Excelsior! says:
April 27, 2015 at 4:35 am
Flying Dragon,
Oh dear! Who do you think make up the armies of the world? Are they all atheists, bent on the forcible removal of freedom of choice? Many of those heavily armed and well trained soldiers will be people of faith!
Do you really think that religious people would not be able to get hold of weapons? Of course they could! How many Americans would gladly have their religious faith forcibly removed form them, without reaching for their guns?
I am not ANYTHING like the Jehovah’s Witnesses. That was very insulting, actually.
You state that the world is increasingly becoming secular anyway, so why are you and others getting so upset with me? Surely the passing of time, and better education, will lead to the gradual reduction in power of religion
Why should you or anyone have the right to forcibly remove a major part of people’s lives? Most religious people follow the law and are of no threat to anyone.
I agree that religious cults need to be challenged and compelled, not to drop their religious faith, but to follow the laws as all other citizens do.
If you can show me in history where forcing people to do things against their will turned out peachy, then I would very much like to read about it.
We shall have to agree to disagree.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
Are all religious people so terribly evil, that you and others want to force them to disbelieve?
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Brazilian Guy says:
April 27, 2015 at 9:00 am
I want to become a pioneer as soon as possible!
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Pickled brain says:
April 27, 2015 at 11:16 am
@Brazilian Guy . Most regular pioneers I went to pioneer School with in 1981 are Disfellowshipped or have broken marriages or had Mental Breakdowns (22 out of 30 of my Class ) So Brazilian guy I wish you well!!
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Bearwoody says:
April 28, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Yes, Alexander Thomson is truly another jewel in the Watchtower crown of Biblical Scholars. Verily, I say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Thomson_%28writer%29
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John says:
May 5, 2015 at 5:33 am
Good one Lloyd! Any questions now over why they are obsessed with jw.org? Instant history revisions!
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It’s a bittersweet day for Candace Conti, her family and supporters, as they digest the appeal court’s reversal of the “cause of action” for Watchtower’s punitive damages in her sex abuse case. Though the amended verdict remains a victory in … Continue reading →
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My response to the haters (and why I can’t always shake it off)
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Posted on April 11, 2015
Abuse from fanatical Cedars-bashers like Tony Balchen (pictured) is beginning to take its toll
I suffer from depression, but even at my darkest moments, when my mind has briefly flirted with notions of suicide, I’ve always thought what a bad choice that would be. There are just so many different ways a person’s life … Continue reading →
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Harmful beliefs – woman and her unborn child perish after she refuses a blood transfusion
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Posted on April 7, 2015
Prince of Wales Hospital in Randwick, where a Jehovah's Witness woman and her child have died due to the blood policy
Is there such a thing as a lifesaving blood transfusion? To some that may seem like a silly question, but it’s something many Jehovah’s Witnesses are skeptical about. Section 4 of their new “history” book mentions the concept while talking … Continue reading →
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Ashya King reported as cancer-free by parents
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Posted on March 24, 2015
Ashya King with his mother while being treated in Prague last year
The parents of five-year-old Ashya King have told reporters that their son is now cancer-free, after receiving proton therapy for a brain tumor in Prague. Readers may recall the family made headlines last August after an international manhunt commenced when … Continue reading →
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Witnesses on Instagram respond to images of tragic JW mother who died refusing blood
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Posted on March 23, 2015
Michelle, who would die refusing blood after giving birth, is pictured at her baby shower
Since a doctrinal decision reached at Watchtower headquarters some time in 1945, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been prohibited from receiving various medical treatments involving blood. This has resulted in untold numbers of Witnesses over many decades (including children) dying out of … Continue reading →
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Jehovah’s Witness New Orleans airport machete attacker dies
Posted on March 23, 2015
Richard White pictured shortly after the incident
Richard White, 63, a Jehovah’s Witness, has been identified by authorities as the man who wielded a machete on Friday night (March 20, 2015) at Louis Armstrong, New Orleans International Airport. Also armed with insect spray during the attack, White charged … Continue reading →
66 Comments
Gregorio Smith gives JWsurvey readers exclusive offer as he takes “Truth Be Told” on European Tour
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Posted on March 20, 2015
Filmmaker Gregorio Smith is taking his production to audiences in Europe
As the HBO film “Going Clear” earns rave reviews for shining a light on the inner workings of the Scientology cult, it is worth remembering that the Watchtower organization is not without its own hard-hitting film expose. Released online last … Continue reading →
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What is JWsurvey’s approach to science, religion and the bible?
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Posted on March 19, 2015
Religious neutrality is an essential element of JWsurvey
Frequent visitors to JWsurvey will be familiar with this website’s posting guidelines for comments, which include the following rule regarding religious neutrality: “Do not post comments that are evangelical in nature or may be construed as imposing one person’s religious … Continue reading →
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Big Eyes, Big Lies: Painter Margaret Keane and the Truth
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Posted on March 16, 2015
Big Eyes starring Amy Adams (left) tells the story of JW painter Margaret Keane (right) and the fraud that shook the art world
It wasn’t easy as a creative child growing up in a devout Jehovah’s Witness household. My early dreams of becoming an artist were squashed by the future forced upon me. According to my indoctrination the only real career outlet for … Continue reading →
66 Comments
Kendrick cornered by reporter as ABC News shines spotlight on Watchtower’s child abuse record
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Posted on March 13, 2015
Jehovah's Witness and convicted pedophile Jonathan Kendrick is cornered by a reporter on ABC News
The hits just keep on coming for Watchtower as the fallout from the 2012 Conti verdict continues to snowball. In an astonishing ABC report, aired last night on Nightline, Candace Conti’s abuser Jonathan Kendrick was confronted on his own driveway … Continue reading →
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Stephen Lett admits income/expenditure shortfall as he reminds Witnesses to donate “valuable things”
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Posted on May 5, 2015
The May episode of JW Broadcasting features Stephen Lett asking JWs to cover a shortfall in funds
The May 2015 episode of JW Broadcasting was billed by its host, Governing Body member Stephen Lett, as being a “historic” one. It ended up being just that, but for none of the reasons given. Lett opened the program by … Continue reading →
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JW.org does partial U-turn over Awake! magazine Rama Singh misquote
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Posted on April 19, 2015
JW.org has removed their misquote of Rama Singh from digital versions of Awake! magazine
Some of you will remember that back in January we reported on the latest example of a Watchtower publication misquoting an academic to get its anti-science views across. Biologist Rama Singh was quoted in the January 2015 Awake! magazine with … Continue reading →
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“We are not done yet!” – Candace reacts to appeal court decision
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Posted on April 16, 2015
Candace Conti (pictured in her interview with ABC) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision
As current and former Jehovah’s Witnesses digest the news that Watchtower’s appeal against the Candace Conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, Candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: “We are … Continue reading →
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Conti appeal: Watchtower’s punitive damages reversed but negligence for lack of field service supervision is affirmed
Posted on April 14, 2015
The appeal court in the Conti case has overturned Watchtower's punitive damages, but upheld the judgment of negligence
It’s a bittersweet day for Candace Conti, her family and supporters, as they digest the appeal court’s reversal of the “cause of action” for Watchtower’s punitive damages in her sex abuse case. Though the amended verdict remains a victory in … Continue reading →
41 Comments
My response to the haters (and why I can’t always shake it off)
avatar
Posted on April 11, 2015
Abuse from fanatical Cedars-bashers like Tony Balchen (pictured) is beginning to take its toll
I suffer from depression, but even at my darkest moments, when my mind has briefly flirted with notions of suicide, I’ve always thought what a bad choice that would be. There are just so many different ways a person’s life … Continue reading →
210 Comments
Harmful beliefs – woman and her unborn child perish after she refuses a blood transfusion
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Posted on April 7, 2015
Prince of Wales Hospital in Randwick, where a Jehovah's Witness woman and her child have died due to the blood policy
Is there such a thing as a lifesaving blood transfusion? To some that may seem like a silly question, but it’s something many Jehovah’s Witnesses are skeptical about. Section 4 of their new “history” book mentions the concept while talking … Continue reading →
52 Comments
Ashya King reported as cancer-free by parents
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Posted on March 24, 2015
Ashya King with his mother while being treated in Prague last year
The parents of five-year-old Ashya King have told reporters that their son is now cancer-free, after receiving proton therapy for a brain tumor in Prague. Readers may recall the family made headlines last August after an international manhunt commenced when … Continue reading →
26 Comments
Witnesses on Instagram respond to images of tragic JW mother who died refusing blood
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Posted on March 23, 2015
Michelle, who would die refusing blood after giving birth, is pictured at her baby shower
Since a doctrinal decision reached at Watchtower headquarters some time in 1945, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been prohibited from receiving various medical treatments involving blood. This has resulted in untold numbers of Witnesses over many decades (including children) dying out of … Continue reading →
120 Comments
Jehovah’s Witness New Orleans airport machete attacker dies
Posted on March 23, 2015
Richard White pictured shortly after the incident
Richard White, 63, a Jehovah’s Witness, has been identified by authorities as the man who wielded a machete on Friday night (March 20, 2015) at Louis Armstrong, New Orleans International Airport. Also armed with insect spray during the attack, White charged … Continue reading →
66 Comments
Gregorio Smith gives JWsurvey readers exclusive offer as he takes “Truth Be Told” on European Tour
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Posted on March 20, 2015
Filmmaker Gregorio Smith is taking his production to audiences in Europe
As the HBO film “Going Clear” earns rave reviews for shining a light on the inner workings of the Scientology cult, it is worth remembering that the Watchtower organization is not without its own hard-hitting film expose. Released online last … Continue reading →
52 Comments
What is JWsurvey’s approach to science, religion and the bible?
avatar
Posted on March 19, 2015
Religious neutrality is an essential element of JWsurvey
Frequent visitors to JWsurvey will be familiar with this website’s posting guidelines for comments, which include the following rule regarding religious neutrality: “Do not post comments that are evangelical in nature or may be construed as imposing one person’s religious … Continue reading →
88 Comments
Big Eyes, Big Lies: Painter Margaret Keane and the Truth
avatar
Posted on March 16, 2015
Big Eyes starring Amy Adams (left) tells the story of JW painter Margaret Keane (right) and the fraud that shook the art world
It wasn’t easy as a creative child growing up in a devout Jehovah’s Witness household. My early dreams of becoming an artist were squashed by the future forced upon me. According to my indoctrination the only real career outlet for … Continue reading →
66 Comments
Kendrick cornered by reporter as ABC News shines spotlight on Watchtower’s child abuse record
avatar
Posted on March 13, 2015
Jehovah's Witness and convicted pedophile Jonathan Kendrick is cornered by a reporter on ABC News
The hits just keep on coming for Watchtower as the fallout from the 2012 Conti verdict continues to snowball. In an astonishing ABC report, aired last night on Nightline, Candace Conti’s abuser Jonathan Kendrick was confronted on his own driveway … Continue reading →
81 Comments
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JW.org does partial U-turn over Awake! magazine Rama Singh misquote
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Is JWsurvey.org an apostate website?
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Do you work at Brooklyn, Patterson or Wallkill? If so, please click here.
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