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Watchtower’s influence comes under scrutiny in family court
Posted on May 23, 2015

A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy "emotional harm"
A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy “emotional harm”

A family judge in Leicester, England has determined that the seven-year-old son of a Jehovah’s Witness mother should be removed from her care due to “emotional harm” being caused at home, so reports the Daily Mail.
School officials testified that the boy (who cannot be named) had been disruptive in class multiple times whenever bible-related topics are discussed. During one lesson discussing the crucifixion story, he destroyed materials with scissors and was quoted as saying, “nobody’s telling true stories about Jehovah.”
The boy is also reported as having told school staff that he “could not be with people who didn’t believe in Jehovah,” and has spoken “contemptuously” about a non-Jehovah’s Witness bible.
It also appears his father was deemed as unfit. The boy is quoted as saying “I don’t love daddy at all,” describing him as “really mean.” Whether these claims are true, or a result of the mother’s conditioning, is unclear. Testimony heard by the judge seems to suggest the parents were involved in a feud, and the boy found himself in the middle of it.
After hearing all sides of the matter, Judge Clifford Bellamy ruled the boy would be better off in the care of foster parents. In his ruling he is quoted as saying: “I am satisfied that (the boy) has suffered emotional harm… I am satisfied that the fact that (the boy) has been immersed by his mother in her religious beliefs and practices has been a significant factor in causing that emotional harm.”
Though a case of this notoriety is rare, negative results stemming from Watchtower’s undue influence upon children are not uncommon. Being highly impressionable and trusting, most children do not see a need to question what their parents teach them. Many children brought up as Jehovah’s Witnesses are easily molded by the “us vs. them” attitude that is inherent to Witness beliefs.
I personally can recall having a feeling of superiority over non-Witness children as a young child. Growing up, I was trained by my own mother, congregation elders, and Watchtower’s publications to believe that everyone who was not a Witness (including my then non-believing father) would be destroyed at Armageddon—and their carcasses eaten by birds. My young life was filled with images of the terror and destruction that awaited all those who rejected the “Truth.”
This indoctrination by Watchtower has led to the break up of countless families such as mine, as Witnesses follow counsel to shun those who leave the organization for fear of being destroyed themselves.
Fear learned at a young age is often difficult to unlearn. Even those of us who wake up and leave the organization will often encounter the thoughts of devastation we were conditioned with. Tragically, the resulting fear and guilt can lead some down destructive paths, even to suicide.
It isn’t hard to see how this boy, caught between quarreling parents, and being fed Watchtower doomsday stories, might have acted out in school. In his young mind, he is a crusader for truth. One can only hope that being away from family and Watchtower pressures will help him see the beauty of the world and how to peacefully exist in it.
The family’s case will be revisited again this summer by the Judge.


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12 Responses to Watchtower’s influence comes under scrutiny in family court

 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:19 pm

Good article and news after I divorced a Jehovah’s Witness wife in October 2014. I feel better away this woman who unfortunately has with help of Elders and “other sheep” under undue influence from stupid interpretation of the Bible by “The Slave” (JW’s Governing Body)! I feel pity of my son who will be forced to follow her mother’s cognitive dissonance.
This religion stands for a purpose I really fail to understand as a human. It wilds mankind. Consider the following:
*** fy chap. 8 pp. 96-97 pars. 17-18 Protect Your Family From Destructive Influences ***
 Yet it is not enough simply to teach your children to avoid bad associates. Help them to find good ones. One father says: “We would always try to substitute. So when the school wanted our son on the football team, my wife and I sat down with him and discussed why that wouldn’t be a good idea—because of the new companions that would be involved. But then we suggested getting some of the other children in the congregation and taking all of them to the park to play ball. And that worked out fine.”
18 Wise parents help their children to find good friends and then to enjoy wholesome recreation with them. For many parents, though, this matter of recreation presents challenges of its own.
Reply
 

 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:22 pm

I wanted to mean …. “I feel better away from this woman who unfortunately has taken captive my cute son with help of Elders and “other sheep”…”
Reply
 

 Mama Joy says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:35 pm

The notoriety of this case my be unusual, but the crime isn’t.
Reply
 

 Darlene Alexander says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:01 pm

So true, Jeni! JWs in general are taught to hate, but it’s a very insidious type disguised as “love.” Though the child may be acting out because of his feuding parents (and we all know what that’s about….), this little boy is a poster child for how JWs teach their children to view anyone that does not belong to their ‘religion.’ If that doesn’t say ‘cult’ I don’t know what does. Thanks for the overview of the news item!
Reply
 
 Grace says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:34 pm

@Darlene A.
I totally agree with your comment. It’s one of the passive aggressive religions I have ever come across. Hate disguised as love is a really appropriate description. Their true colours often come out when you least expect it.
Reply
 
 

 Kat says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Good article, and not at all UNCOMMON to be sure. The us vs. them, we’ll live in their fine home after they are killed, destroyed at Armageddon is a theme often repeated at in the door to door work. And years of mum’s comments that “worldly” people will die because of celebrating holidays, being patriotic or any number of infractions wears on their wee minds. No wonder this poor child lashed out at what he viewed at pure Satanic ways of life, that’s all he heard for 7 years.
Reply
 

 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:55 pm

7 year old …. Damaged already… PROBABLY BAPTISED at 6 years of age …. !!!!
Reply
 
 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

@Darlene & @Grace …. ‘Hate Disguised as Love’ Very Aptly Put !! The Love is Conditional as I found out when I make comments in the Watchtower study like ‘ I hope the F&D Slave get it right this time on the Generation Interpetation ‘ After a comment like that I have been Cold Shouldered, Blanked, ignored,etc By friends??? I have known for 30 years BECAUSE of a Personal ,BUT VERY HONEST Observation!!! Now that is FRIGHTENING CULT BEHAVIOUR!!!
Reply
 
 

 Jerry O Connor says:

 May 23, 2015 at 10:59 pm

Hello to all
 Seven year`s old and brainwashed. I empathize with the child but not with the parents. The only positive that I see in this sad case is that watchtower is stymied. The behavior of the child is so extreme that he can`t be another watchtower “poster boy”. Then there is the parents. They turned their son into a watchtower extremist. Another family destroyed by this obscene cult.
Reply
 

 dontknowwheretogo says:

 May 24, 2015 at 4:47 am

Bet the kid never gets ice cream now…
Reply
 

 Rowland Nelken says:

 May 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm

Will any of the practising JWs who clearly follow this blog come to the defence of the Watchtower cult and blame the ‘worldly’ judge?
Maybe they have learned their lesson and realise that their grubby little corner of Christendom is utterly indefensible.
Reply
 

 Excelsior! says:

 May 25, 2015 at 5:12 am

Folks,
This is another tragic case. A child should be able to rely on the unconditional love of its parents.
The WTBTS actually have a packet that they give to Witness parents when custody is being challenged in court.
It says to coach the child into looking and sounding more like a normal child! It councels not to speak of pioneering etc etc!!
I shall await with interest the eventual outcome of this case.
What a poor little boy! I hope that he is given the help he needs to find some stability and peace.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
Reply
 

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Watchtower’s influence comes under scrutiny in family court
Posted on May 23, 2015

A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy "emotional harm"
A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy “emotional harm”

A family judge in Leicester, England has determined that the seven-year-old son of a Jehovah’s Witness mother should be removed from her care due to “emotional harm” being caused at home, so reports the Daily Mail.
School officials testified that the boy (who cannot be named) had been disruptive in class multiple times whenever bible-related topics are discussed. During one lesson discussing the crucifixion story, he destroyed materials with scissors and was quoted as saying, “nobody’s telling true stories about Jehovah.”
The boy is also reported as having told school staff that he “could not be with people who didn’t believe in Jehovah,” and has spoken “contemptuously” about a non-Jehovah’s Witness bible.
It also appears his father was deemed as unfit. The boy is quoted as saying “I don’t love daddy at all,” describing him as “really mean.” Whether these claims are true, or a result of the mother’s conditioning, is unclear. Testimony heard by the judge seems to suggest the parents were involved in a feud, and the boy found himself in the middle of it.
After hearing all sides of the matter, Judge Clifford Bellamy ruled the boy would be better off in the care of foster parents. In his ruling he is quoted as saying: “I am satisfied that (the boy) has suffered emotional harm… I am satisfied that the fact that (the boy) has been immersed by his mother in her religious beliefs and practices has been a significant factor in causing that emotional harm.”
Though a case of this notoriety is rare, negative results stemming from Watchtower’s undue influence upon children are not uncommon. Being highly impressionable and trusting, most children do not see a need to question what their parents teach them. Many children brought up as Jehovah’s Witnesses are easily molded by the “us vs. them” attitude that is inherent to Witness beliefs.
I personally can recall having a feeling of superiority over non-Witness children as a young child. Growing up, I was trained by my own mother, congregation elders, and Watchtower’s publications to believe that everyone who was not a Witness (including my then non-believing father) would be destroyed at Armageddon—and their carcasses eaten by birds. My young life was filled with images of the terror and destruction that awaited all those who rejected the “Truth.”
This indoctrination by Watchtower has led to the break up of countless families such as mine, as Witnesses follow counsel to shun those who leave the organization for fear of being destroyed themselves.
Fear learned at a young age is often difficult to unlearn. Even those of us who wake up and leave the organization will often encounter the thoughts of devastation we were conditioned with. Tragically, the resulting fear and guilt can lead some down destructive paths, even to suicide.
It isn’t hard to see how this boy, caught between quarreling parents, and being fed Watchtower doomsday stories, might have acted out in school. In his young mind, he is a crusader for truth. One can only hope that being away from family and Watchtower pressures will help him see the beauty of the world and how to peacefully exist in it.
The family’s case will be revisited again this summer by the Judge.


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12 Responses to Watchtower’s influence comes under scrutiny in family court

 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:19 pm

Good article and news after I divorced a Jehovah’s Witness wife in October 2014. I feel better away this woman who unfortunately has with help of Elders and “other sheep” under undue influence from stupid interpretation of the Bible by “The Slave” (JW’s Governing Body)! I feel pity of my son who will be forced to follow her mother’s cognitive dissonance.
This religion stands for a purpose I really fail to understand as a human. It wilds mankind. Consider the following:
*** fy chap. 8 pp. 96-97 pars. 17-18 Protect Your Family From Destructive Influences ***
 Yet it is not enough simply to teach your children to avoid bad associates. Help them to find good ones. One father says: “We would always try to substitute. So when the school wanted our son on the football team, my wife and I sat down with him and discussed why that wouldn’t be a good idea—because of the new companions that would be involved. But then we suggested getting some of the other children in the congregation and taking all of them to the park to play ball. And that worked out fine.”
18 Wise parents help their children to find good friends and then to enjoy wholesome recreation with them. For many parents, though, this matter of recreation presents challenges of its own.
Reply
 

 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:22 pm

I wanted to mean …. “I feel better away from this woman who unfortunately has taken captive my cute son with help of Elders and “other sheep”…”
Reply
 

 Mama Joy says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:35 pm

The notoriety of this case my be unusual, but the crime isn’t.
Reply
 

 Darlene Alexander says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:01 pm

So true, Jeni! JWs in general are taught to hate, but it’s a very insidious type disguised as “love.” Though the child may be acting out because of his feuding parents (and we all know what that’s about….), this little boy is a poster child for how JWs teach their children to view anyone that does not belong to their ‘religion.’ If that doesn’t say ‘cult’ I don’t know what does. Thanks for the overview of the news item!
Reply
 
 Grace says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:34 pm

@Darlene A.
I totally agree with your comment. It’s one of the passive aggressive religions I have ever come across. Hate disguised as love is a really appropriate description. Their true colours often come out when you least expect it.
Reply
 
 

 Kat says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Good article, and not at all UNCOMMON to be sure. The us vs. them, we’ll live in their fine home after they are killed, destroyed at Armageddon is a theme often repeated at in the door to door work. And years of mum’s comments that “worldly” people will die because of celebrating holidays, being patriotic or any number of infractions wears on their wee minds. No wonder this poor child lashed out at what he viewed at pure Satanic ways of life, that’s all he heard for 7 years.
Reply
 

 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:55 pm

7 year old …. Damaged already… PROBABLY BAPTISED at 6 years of age …. !!!!
Reply
 
 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

@Darlene & @Grace …. ‘Hate Disguised as Love’ Very Aptly Put !! The Love is Conditional as I found out when I make comments in the Watchtower study like ‘ I hope the F&D Slave get it right this time on the Generation Interpetation ‘ After a comment like that I have been Cold Shouldered, Blanked, ignored,etc By friends??? I have known for 30 years BECAUSE of a Personal ,BUT VERY HONEST Observation!!! Now that is FRIGHTENING CULT BEHAVIOUR!!!
Reply
 
 

 Jerry O Connor says:

 May 23, 2015 at 10:59 pm

Hello to all
 Seven year`s old and brainwashed. I empathize with the child but not with the parents. The only positive that I see in this sad case is that watchtower is stymied. The behavior of the child is so extreme that he can`t be another watchtower “poster boy”. Then there is the parents. They turned their son into a watchtower extremist. Another family destroyed by this obscene cult.
Reply
 

 dontknowwheretogo says:

 May 24, 2015 at 4:47 am

Bet the kid never gets ice cream now…
Reply
 

 Rowland Nelken says:

 May 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm

Will any of the practising JWs who clearly follow this blog come to the defence of the Watchtower cult and blame the ‘worldly’ judge?
Maybe they have learned their lesson and realise that their grubby little corner of Christendom is utterly indefensible.
Reply
 

 Excelsior! says:

 May 25, 2015 at 5:12 am

Folks,
This is another tragic case. A child should be able to rely on the unconditional love of its parents.
The WTBTS actually have a packet that they give to Witness parents when custody is being challenged in court.
It says to coach the child into looking and sounding more like a normal child! It councels not to speak of pioneering etc etc!!
I shall await with interest the eventual outcome of this case.
What a poor little boy! I hope that he is given the help he needs to find some stability and peace.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
Reply
 

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Watchtower’s influence comes under scrutiny in family court
Posted on May 23, 2015

A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy "emotional harm"
A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy “emotional harm”

A family judge in Leicester, England has determined that the seven-year-old son of a Jehovah’s Witness mother should be removed from her care due to “emotional harm” being caused at home, so reports the Daily Mail.
School officials testified that the boy (who cannot be named) had been disruptive in class multiple times whenever bible-related topics are discussed. During one lesson discussing the crucifixion story, he destroyed materials with scissors and was quoted as saying, “nobody’s telling true stories about Jehovah.”
The boy is also reported as having told school staff that he “could not be with people who didn’t believe in Jehovah,” and has spoken “contemptuously” about a non-Jehovah’s Witness bible.
It also appears his father was deemed as unfit. The boy is quoted as saying “I don’t love daddy at all,” describing him as “really mean.” Whether these claims are true, or a result of the mother’s conditioning, is unclear. Testimony heard by the judge seems to suggest the parents were involved in a feud, and the boy found himself in the middle of it.
After hearing all sides of the matter, Judge Clifford Bellamy ruled the boy would be better off in the care of foster parents. In his ruling he is quoted as saying: “I am satisfied that (the boy) has suffered emotional harm… I am satisfied that the fact that (the boy) has been immersed by his mother in her religious beliefs and practices has been a significant factor in causing that emotional harm.”
Though a case of this notoriety is rare, negative results stemming from Watchtower’s undue influence upon children are not uncommon. Being highly impressionable and trusting, most children do not see a need to question what their parents teach them. Many children brought up as Jehovah’s Witnesses are easily molded by the “us vs. them” attitude that is inherent to Witness beliefs.
I personally can recall having a feeling of superiority over non-Witness children as a young child. Growing up, I was trained by my own mother, congregation elders, and Watchtower’s publications to believe that everyone who was not a Witness (including my then non-believing father) would be destroyed at Armageddon—and their carcasses eaten by birds. My young life was filled with images of the terror and destruction that awaited all those who rejected the “Truth.”
This indoctrination by Watchtower has led to the break up of countless families such as mine, as Witnesses follow counsel to shun those who leave the organization for fear of being destroyed themselves.
Fear learned at a young age is often difficult to unlearn. Even those of us who wake up and leave the organization will often encounter the thoughts of devastation we were conditioned with. Tragically, the resulting fear and guilt can lead some down destructive paths, even to suicide.
It isn’t hard to see how this boy, caught between quarreling parents, and being fed Watchtower doomsday stories, might have acted out in school. In his young mind, he is a crusader for truth. One can only hope that being away from family and Watchtower pressures will help him see the beauty of the world and how to peacefully exist in it.
The family’s case will be revisited again this summer by the Judge.


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 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:19 pm

Good article and news after I divorced a Jehovah’s Witness wife in October 2014. I feel better away this woman who unfortunately has with help of Elders and “other sheep” under undue influence from stupid interpretation of the Bible by “The Slave” (JW’s Governing Body)! I feel pity of my son who will be forced to follow her mother’s cognitive dissonance.
This religion stands for a purpose I really fail to understand as a human. It wilds mankind. Consider the following:
*** fy chap. 8 pp. 96-97 pars. 17-18 Protect Your Family From Destructive Influences ***
 Yet it is not enough simply to teach your children to avoid bad associates. Help them to find good ones. One father says: “We would always try to substitute. So when the school wanted our son on the football team, my wife and I sat down with him and discussed why that wouldn’t be a good idea—because of the new companions that would be involved. But then we suggested getting some of the other children in the congregation and taking all of them to the park to play ball. And that worked out fine.”
18 Wise parents help their children to find good friends and then to enjoy wholesome recreation with them. For many parents, though, this matter of recreation presents challenges of its own.
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 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:22 pm

I wanted to mean …. “I feel better away from this woman who unfortunately has taken captive my cute son with help of Elders and “other sheep”…”
Reply
 

 Mama Joy says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:35 pm

The notoriety of this case my be unusual, but the crime isn’t.
Reply
 

 Darlene Alexander says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:01 pm

So true, Jeni! JWs in general are taught to hate, but it’s a very insidious type disguised as “love.” Though the child may be acting out because of his feuding parents (and we all know what that’s about….), this little boy is a poster child for how JWs teach their children to view anyone that does not belong to their ‘religion.’ If that doesn’t say ‘cult’ I don’t know what does. Thanks for the overview of the news item!
Reply
 
 Grace says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:34 pm

@Darlene A.
I totally agree with your comment. It’s one of the passive aggressive religions I have ever come across. Hate disguised as love is a really appropriate description. Their true colours often come out when you least expect it.
Reply
 
 

 Kat says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Good article, and not at all UNCOMMON to be sure. The us vs. them, we’ll live in their fine home after they are killed, destroyed at Armageddon is a theme often repeated at in the door to door work. And years of mum’s comments that “worldly” people will die because of celebrating holidays, being patriotic or any number of infractions wears on their wee minds. No wonder this poor child lashed out at what he viewed at pure Satanic ways of life, that’s all he heard for 7 years.
Reply
 

 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:55 pm

7 year old …. Damaged already… PROBABLY BAPTISED at 6 years of age …. !!!!
Reply
 
 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

@Darlene & @Grace …. ‘Hate Disguised as Love’ Very Aptly Put !! The Love is Conditional as I found out when I make comments in the Watchtower study like ‘ I hope the F&D Slave get it right this time on the Generation Interpetation ‘ After a comment like that I have been Cold Shouldered, Blanked, ignored,etc By friends??? I have known for 30 years BECAUSE of a Personal ,BUT VERY HONEST Observation!!! Now that is FRIGHTENING CULT BEHAVIOUR!!!
Reply
 
 

 Jerry O Connor says:

 May 23, 2015 at 10:59 pm

Hello to all
 Seven year`s old and brainwashed. I empathize with the child but not with the parents. The only positive that I see in this sad case is that watchtower is stymied. The behavior of the child is so extreme that he can`t be another watchtower “poster boy”. Then there is the parents. They turned their son into a watchtower extremist. Another family destroyed by this obscene cult.
Reply
 

 dontknowwheretogo says:

 May 24, 2015 at 4:47 am

Bet the kid never gets ice cream now…
Reply
 

 Rowland Nelken says:

 May 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm

Will any of the practising JWs who clearly follow this blog come to the defence of the Watchtower cult and blame the ‘worldly’ judge?
Maybe they have learned their lesson and realise that their grubby little corner of Christendom is utterly indefensible.
Reply
 

 Excelsior! says:

 May 25, 2015 at 5:12 am

Folks,
This is another tragic case. A child should be able to rely on the unconditional love of its parents.
The WTBTS actually have a packet that they give to Witness parents when custody is being challenged in court.
It says to coach the child into looking and sounding more like a normal child! It councels not to speak of pioneering etc etc!!
I shall await with interest the eventual outcome of this case.
What a poor little boy! I hope that he is given the help he needs to find some stability and peace.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
Reply
 

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Watchtower’s influence comes under scrutiny in family court
Posted on May 23, 2015

A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy "emotional harm"
A judge at Leicester law courts (pictured) has concluded Watchtower beliefs were causing one boy “emotional harm”

A family judge in Leicester, England has determined that the seven-year-old son of a Jehovah’s Witness mother should be removed from her care due to “emotional harm” being caused at home, so reports the Daily Mail.
School officials testified that the boy (who cannot be named) had been disruptive in class multiple times whenever bible-related topics are discussed. During one lesson discussing the crucifixion story, he destroyed materials with scissors and was quoted as saying, “nobody’s telling true stories about Jehovah.”
The boy is also reported as having told school staff that he “could not be with people who didn’t believe in Jehovah,” and has spoken “contemptuously” about a non-Jehovah’s Witness bible.
It also appears his father was deemed as unfit. The boy is quoted as saying “I don’t love daddy at all,” describing him as “really mean.” Whether these claims are true, or a result of the mother’s conditioning, is unclear. Testimony heard by the judge seems to suggest the parents were involved in a feud, and the boy found himself in the middle of it.
After hearing all sides of the matter, Judge Clifford Bellamy ruled the boy would be better off in the care of foster parents. In his ruling he is quoted as saying: “I am satisfied that (the boy) has suffered emotional harm… I am satisfied that the fact that (the boy) has been immersed by his mother in her religious beliefs and practices has been a significant factor in causing that emotional harm.”
Though a case of this notoriety is rare, negative results stemming from Watchtower’s undue influence upon children are not uncommon. Being highly impressionable and trusting, most children do not see a need to question what their parents teach them. Many children brought up as Jehovah’s Witnesses are easily molded by the “us vs. them” attitude that is inherent to Witness beliefs.
I personally can recall having a feeling of superiority over non-Witness children as a young child. Growing up, I was trained by my own mother, congregation elders, and Watchtower’s publications to believe that everyone who was not a Witness (including my then non-believing father) would be destroyed at Armageddon—and their carcasses eaten by birds. My young life was filled with images of the terror and destruction that awaited all those who rejected the “Truth.”
This indoctrination by Watchtower has led to the break up of countless families such as mine, as Witnesses follow counsel to shun those who leave the organization for fear of being destroyed themselves.
Fear learned at a young age is often difficult to unlearn. Even those of us who wake up and leave the organization will often encounter the thoughts of devastation we were conditioned with. Tragically, the resulting fear and guilt can lead some down destructive paths, even to suicide.
It isn’t hard to see how this boy, caught between quarreling parents, and being fed Watchtower doomsday stories, might have acted out in school. In his young mind, he is a crusader for truth. One can only hope that being away from family and Watchtower pressures will help him see the beauty of the world and how to peacefully exist in it.
The family’s case will be revisited again this summer by the Judge.


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 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:19 pm

Good article and news after I divorced a Jehovah’s Witness wife in October 2014. I feel better away this woman who unfortunately has with help of Elders and “other sheep” under undue influence from stupid interpretation of the Bible by “The Slave” (JW’s Governing Body)! I feel pity of my son who will be forced to follow her mother’s cognitive dissonance.
This religion stands for a purpose I really fail to understand as a human. It wilds mankind. Consider the following:
*** fy chap. 8 pp. 96-97 pars. 17-18 Protect Your Family From Destructive Influences ***
 Yet it is not enough simply to teach your children to avoid bad associates. Help them to find good ones. One father says: “We would always try to substitute. So when the school wanted our son on the football team, my wife and I sat down with him and discussed why that wouldn’t be a good idea—because of the new companions that would be involved. But then we suggested getting some of the other children in the congregation and taking all of them to the park to play ball. And that worked out fine.”
18 Wise parents help their children to find good friends and then to enjoy wholesome recreation with them. For many parents, though, this matter of recreation presents challenges of its own.
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 Hakizimana Jean de Dieu says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:22 pm

I wanted to mean …. “I feel better away from this woman who unfortunately has taken captive my cute son with help of Elders and “other sheep”…”
Reply
 

 Mama Joy says:

 May 23, 2015 at 1:35 pm

The notoriety of this case my be unusual, but the crime isn’t.
Reply
 

 Darlene Alexander says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:01 pm

So true, Jeni! JWs in general are taught to hate, but it’s a very insidious type disguised as “love.” Though the child may be acting out because of his feuding parents (and we all know what that’s about….), this little boy is a poster child for how JWs teach their children to view anyone that does not belong to their ‘religion.’ If that doesn’t say ‘cult’ I don’t know what does. Thanks for the overview of the news item!
Reply
 
 Grace says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:34 pm

@Darlene A.
I totally agree with your comment. It’s one of the passive aggressive religions I have ever come across. Hate disguised as love is a really appropriate description. Their true colours often come out when you least expect it.
Reply
 
 

 Kat says:

 May 23, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Good article, and not at all UNCOMMON to be sure. The us vs. them, we’ll live in their fine home after they are killed, destroyed at Armageddon is a theme often repeated at in the door to door work. And years of mum’s comments that “worldly” people will die because of celebrating holidays, being patriotic or any number of infractions wears on their wee minds. No wonder this poor child lashed out at what he viewed at pure Satanic ways of life, that’s all he heard for 7 years.
Reply
 

 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 3:55 pm

7 year old …. Damaged already… PROBABLY BAPTISED at 6 years of age …. !!!!
Reply
 
 Pickled brain says:

 May 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

@Darlene & @Grace …. ‘Hate Disguised as Love’ Very Aptly Put !! The Love is Conditional as I found out when I make comments in the Watchtower study like ‘ I hope the F&D Slave get it right this time on the Generation Interpetation ‘ After a comment like that I have been Cold Shouldered, Blanked, ignored,etc By friends??? I have known for 30 years BECAUSE of a Personal ,BUT VERY HONEST Observation!!! Now that is FRIGHTENING CULT BEHAVIOUR!!!
Reply
 
 

 Jerry O Connor says:

 May 23, 2015 at 10:59 pm

Hello to all
 Seven year`s old and brainwashed. I empathize with the child but not with the parents. The only positive that I see in this sad case is that watchtower is stymied. The behavior of the child is so extreme that he can`t be another watchtower “poster boy”. Then there is the parents. They turned their son into a watchtower extremist. Another family destroyed by this obscene cult.
Reply
 

 dontknowwheretogo says:

 May 24, 2015 at 4:47 am

Bet the kid never gets ice cream now…
Reply
 

 Rowland Nelken says:

 May 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm

Will any of the practising JWs who clearly follow this blog come to the defence of the Watchtower cult and blame the ‘worldly’ judge?
Maybe they have learned their lesson and realise that their grubby little corner of Christendom is utterly indefensible.
Reply
 

 Excelsior! says:

 May 25, 2015 at 5:12 am

Folks,
This is another tragic case. A child should be able to rely on the unconditional love of its parents.
The WTBTS actually have a packet that they give to Witness parents when custody is being challenged in court.
It says to coach the child into looking and sounding more like a normal child! It councels not to speak of pioneering etc etc!!
I shall await with interest the eventual outcome of this case.
What a poor little boy! I hope that he is given the help he needs to find some stability and peace.
Peace be with you, Excelsior!
Reply
 

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 KtotheRAD "Konrad" says:

 August 25, 2013 at 6:55 pm

With every word they reveal and “impart” far more than they ever intended…
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 george says:

 August 27, 2013 at 4:45 am

Sorry Cedars, I can only access the first video on my I pad. There are a lot of over sized play icons and they won’t work.
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 Luke says:

 October 27, 2013 at 5:27 pm

Continue the good work on this site that expose what Watchtower Organization really are — a fanatic end-time driven cult that only serve interests of its leaders. I left this
 cult three years ago for good. My only regret is that I had not left the Watchtower Cult earlier! On Easter Sunday this year, I was baptized in the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit and received into Eastern Orthodox Church, apostolic Church that preserved the Faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.
Cedar, you have my blessings of your work on this site that
 will yet help millions of JWs to see the truth of so-called ‘Truth’.
Reply
 

 Fred says:

 November 2, 2013 at 12:09 pm

Forget taking your numbers from a 1974 yearbook if you question the amount of those killed, interned, etc get the numbers from the Holocaust museum. You forgot to mention the ‘JEWS’ were and its quoted several times in the Watchtower publications as it is related in the bible, “ONCE GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE” but they did not remain that because of their actions. Your quotes from WT publications are based on the latter that they fell out of favour in God’s eyes. They therefor were NOT written in an anti-Semitic nature. Many Jews have become JW’s over the years are they lesser beings because they were of Jewish blood?…ABSOLUTELY NOT! All races are equal so this video in my opinion is twisted in its presentation. Not to mention the ridiculous claim of Rutherford’s so called love letter to Adolf Hitler. No blinders on here, I have checked the facts. Sorry but this video paints an untruthful twist of events and statements about the WT as regards the comments on the Nazi’s and Jews.
Reply
 

 Palma says:

 February 28, 2014 at 3:48 am

Hi everybody! Hi cedars!
 I found this article about a discovery in egypt that brings light to the origin of story of joseph in the bible.
 What do you think?
http://www.davidovits.info/the-lost-fresco-and-the-bible-my-new-book-in-french/
Reply
 

 Idris says:

 March 27, 2014 at 8:12 am

Thank you for this page, it has been a great help to me, as I seek the truth of the word of God, however I noticed in the video ‘Does the Bible speak of ‘Paradise Earth’ the speaker quotes Luke 21v43 twice, regarding Jesus word on the cross, there should be a correction note as the verse he mentions is in Luke 23 v 43.
 Keep up the good work
Reply
 

 Julia Orwell says:

 July 17, 2014 at 3:47 am

Been to internationals before and this elaborate souvenir thing is entirely new. The last one I went to in 2009, the last ones they had, had nothing like this so it’s not a matter of you having not noticed it in the past, it’s a matter of it being a new phenomenon.
 I theorize that the wt motives for this involve keeping the masses busy and therefore obedient. Jws would volunteer to do this because there are no other legitimate outlets for creative expression. Armageddon being near has nothing to do with it: it’s about keeping the sheeple busy and happy. Making stupid trinkets is also a team building activity as it involves jws working together, thus reinforcing the herd mentality jws have.
Reply
 

 frankie fernandez says:

 February 27, 2015 at 4:44 pm

dear friends I was baptized in 1974. Thank God I am no longer a member of the WT. Free at last and oh what a relief it is. A member of my former congregation who I considerd my best friend molested a minor. There was a big argument amognst the elders on the judicial committee. One elder who was a maverick, wanted to notify the police. But, instead they followed the instuctions of the society. They kept this crime against the child, hush hush. So as not to tarnish the name of Jehovah. But in reality it was a coverup to protect the wt’s reputation. Meanwhile this poor child that was raped has to carry the heavy burden of a victim for the rest of thier lives without compensation and without justice. While the abuser has remaind a member in good standing. The congregation he is attending now has not been notified that he is a sexual preditor.
Reply
 

 Kirtley W. Burggraf says:

 March 11, 2015 at 11:16 am

Tell me, since governing body members are elected (replacing someone who dies) at what point do do they become “divinely inspired” or “spirit guided”? Were they always thus in the lower ranks or does this just “happen” the moment that they are appointed? What’s Watchtower’s take on this?
Reply
 

 Alone in MD says:

 March 31, 2015 at 6:00 pm

Regards your video on the Memorial Service. I am one of those “non believers” married to a baptized witness. I go to just keep the peace but I’ve made it known that I consider this service one of the worst religious ceremonies that I have ever been to. “Anointed What”. Also it was announced at last years meeting that “this may be the last memorial service”. They are at it again. Thanks for the great videos.
Reply
 

 frankie fernandez says:

 May 10, 2015 at 9:50 pm

IF CHRIST WAS ENTHRONGED IN 1914, WHY ARE THE WITNESES STILL CELEBRATING THE MEMORIAL? CHRIST SAID THAT AFTER HIS ARRIVAL NO ONE WAS TO CELEBRATE THE MEMORIAL .ALSO HE SAID THAT THE DAY OF HIS PRESENSE, IT WILL BE LIKE LIGHTNING FROM ONE POINT OF THE EARTH TO ANOTHER. LIGHTNING TRAVELS AT THE SPEED OF 3500 MILES PER SECOUND. SO IT WILL TRAVEL AROUND THE GLOBE IN LESS THAN A MINUTE. HE ALSO SAID THAT ALL EYES WILL SEE HIM. NOT LIKE THE WTS THAT SAYS WE ARE IN HIS INVISIBLE PRESENSE.
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 KtotheRAD "Konrad" says:

 August 25, 2013 at 6:55 pm

With every word they reveal and “impart” far more than they ever intended…
Reply
 

 george says:

 August 27, 2013 at 4:45 am

Sorry Cedars, I can only access the first video on my I pad. There are a lot of over sized play icons and they won’t work.
Reply
 

 Luke says:

 October 27, 2013 at 5:27 pm

Continue the good work on this site that expose what Watchtower Organization really are — a fanatic end-time driven cult that only serve interests of its leaders. I left this
 cult three years ago for good. My only regret is that I had not left the Watchtower Cult earlier! On Easter Sunday this year, I was baptized in the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit and received into Eastern Orthodox Church, apostolic Church that preserved the Faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.
Cedar, you have my blessings of your work on this site that
 will yet help millions of JWs to see the truth of so-called ‘Truth’.
Reply
 

 Fred says:

 November 2, 2013 at 12:09 pm

Forget taking your numbers from a 1974 yearbook if you question the amount of those killed, interned, etc get the numbers from the Holocaust museum. You forgot to mention the ‘JEWS’ were and its quoted several times in the Watchtower publications as it is related in the bible, “ONCE GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE” but they did not remain that because of their actions. Your quotes from WT publications are based on the latter that they fell out of favour in God’s eyes. They therefor were NOT written in an anti-Semitic nature. Many Jews have become JW’s over the years are they lesser beings because they were of Jewish blood?…ABSOLUTELY NOT! All races are equal so this video in my opinion is twisted in its presentation. Not to mention the ridiculous claim of Rutherford’s so called love letter to Adolf Hitler. No blinders on here, I have checked the facts. Sorry but this video paints an untruthful twist of events and statements about the WT as regards the comments on the Nazi’s and Jews.
Reply
 

 Palma says:

 February 28, 2014 at 3:48 am

Hi everybody! Hi cedars!
 I found this article about a discovery in egypt that brings light to the origin of story of joseph in the bible.
 What do you think?
http://www.davidovits.info/the-lost-fresco-and-the-bible-my-new-book-in-french/
Reply
 

 Idris says:

 March 27, 2014 at 8:12 am

Thank you for this page, it has been a great help to me, as I seek the truth of the word of God, however I noticed in the video ‘Does the Bible speak of ‘Paradise Earth’ the speaker quotes Luke 21v43 twice, regarding Jesus word on the cross, there should be a correction note as the verse he mentions is in Luke 23 v 43.
 Keep up the good work
Reply
 

 Julia Orwell says:

 July 17, 2014 at 3:47 am

Been to internationals before and this elaborate souvenir thing is entirely new. The last one I went to in 2009, the last ones they had, had nothing like this so it’s not a matter of you having not noticed it in the past, it’s a matter of it being a new phenomenon.
 I theorize that the wt motives for this involve keeping the masses busy and therefore obedient. Jws would volunteer to do this because there are no other legitimate outlets for creative expression. Armageddon being near has nothing to do with it: it’s about keeping the sheeple busy and happy. Making stupid trinkets is also a team building activity as it involves jws working together, thus reinforcing the herd mentality jws have.
Reply
 

 frankie fernandez says:

 February 27, 2015 at 4:44 pm

dear friends I was baptized in 1974. Thank God I am no longer a member of the WT. Free at last and oh what a relief it is. A member of my former congregation who I considerd my best friend molested a minor. There was a big argument amognst the elders on the judicial committee. One elder who was a maverick, wanted to notify the police. But, instead they followed the instuctions of the society. They kept this crime against the child, hush hush. So as not to tarnish the name of Jehovah. But in reality it was a coverup to protect the wt’s reputation. Meanwhile this poor child that was raped has to carry the heavy burden of a victim for the rest of thier lives without compensation and without justice. While the abuser has remaind a member in good standing. The congregation he is attending now has not been notified that he is a sexual preditor.
Reply
 

 Kirtley W. Burggraf says:

 March 11, 2015 at 11:16 am

Tell me, since governing body members are elected (replacing someone who dies) at what point do do they become “divinely inspired” or “spirit guided”? Were they always thus in the lower ranks or does this just “happen” the moment that they are appointed? What’s Watchtower’s take on this?
Reply
 

 Alone in MD says:

 March 31, 2015 at 6:00 pm

Regards your video on the Memorial Service. I am one of those “non believers” married to a baptized witness. I go to just keep the peace but I’ve made it known that I consider this service one of the worst religious ceremonies that I have ever been to. “Anointed What”. Also it was announced at last years meeting that “this may be the last memorial service”. They are at it again. Thanks for the great videos.
Reply
 

 frankie fernandez says:

 May 10, 2015 at 9:50 pm

IF CHRIST WAS ENTHRONGED IN 1914, WHY ARE THE WITNESES STILL CELEBRATING THE MEMORIAL? CHRIST SAID THAT AFTER HIS ARRIVAL NO ONE WAS TO CELEBRATE THE MEMORIAL .ALSO HE SAID THAT THE DAY OF HIS PRESENSE, IT WILL BE LIKE LIGHTNING FROM ONE POINT OF THE EARTH TO ANOTHER. LIGHTNING TRAVELS AT THE SPEED OF 3500 MILES PER SECOUND. SO IT WILL TRAVEL AROUND THE GLOBE IN LESS THAN A MINUTE. HE ALSO SAID THAT ALL EYES WILL SEE HIM. NOT LIKE THE WTS THAT SAYS WE ARE IN HIS INVISIBLE PRESENSE.
Reply
 

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 Stephen Lett admits income/expenditure shortfall as he reminds Witnesses to donate "valuable things" 
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