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Michele Bachmann: Get A Brain If You Don’t Know That A Biblical Society Is The Key To Prosperity [VIDEO]
February 23, 2016 Crackpots, Religion


“Get a brain and figure it out. Don’t you want to live better? Don’t you want to be more prosperous? Don’t you want to be happier? Don’t you want to be free? Don’t you want poor people to do well? Don’t you want to love your neighbor? If you want all those things, David, you would embrace competition with both arms and you’d want a biblical basis for your society just like the Pilgrims, through their example, gave us, that they embraced for us, just like George Washington and the founders, when they dedicated this nation to God at the inauguration, in the very first seconds of life of this country.” – Michelle Bachmann, speaking to fellow insane person David Barton.

  


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freshacconci  • 3 days ago 




Actually, the Western world only started to become prosperous when it became secular.
 
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Gustav2 > freshacconci  • 3 days ago 




And Rome fell when it became Christian.
 
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Gyeo > Gustav2  • 3 days ago 




Part of Rome's fall also had to do with the resistance of the wealthy towards paying taxes which lead to crumbling infrastructure. Sounds familiar to a certain party somehow.
 
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Steverino > Gyeo  • 3 days ago 




Just like the "infallible Bible's" definition of "sodomy" and "sodomites" in the Book of Ezekiel. Reads like the Republican Platform, verbatim.
 
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Librarykid > Steverino  • 2 days ago 




So few people read far enough into the Bible to ever encounter Ezekiel that hack preachers can get away with their lies
 
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Duane Dimitrov > Gyeo  • 3 days ago 




"Led," not "lead." The past tense of "to lead" is "led."
God damn that makes me mad. For no good reason.
 
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Rocco Gibraltar > Duane Dimitrov  • 3 days ago 




Perhaps you should examine your anger issues. You are correct. No good reason to make you angry. Did an incorrectly conjugated verb harm you as a child?
 
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Duane Dimitrov > Rocco Gibraltar  • 3 days ago 




Yes, Rocco, I'll be sure to "examine" my "anger issues." Rather than simply express my displeasure in written form in a comments section where..people express their displeasure in written form.
 
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Rocco Gibraltar > Duane Dimitrov  • 3 days ago 




I was just responding to your observation that it made you mad for no good reason. It was posted in jest, sorry.
 
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Duane Dimitrov > Rocco Gibraltar  • 3 days ago 




I'm not trolling you Rocco. People take these comments sections much too seriously.
 
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Gyeo > Duane Dimitrov  • 3 days ago 




I probably wrote lead by accident because lead poisoning was also one of the lesser known and debated contributor to problems in ancient Rome. /shrugs
 
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Duane Dimitrov > Gyeo  • 3 days ago 




Indeed!
 
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Joe knows who I am. > Duane Dimitrov  • 2 days ago 




Unless you live in Flint. Then it is lead.
 
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Librarykid > Gyeo  • 2 days ago 




It also had to do with the lead (plumbum in latin) in the pipes leaching into the water making brains soft to absorb the Christian teaching that there was no sense in improving life in this world because all that mattered was going to heaven after you die.
 
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freshacconci > Gustav2  • 3 days ago 




In all fairness, there was quite a bit of prosperity in the Byzantine Empire and the Holy Roman Empire -- for a handful of people.
 
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chicago dyke > freshacconci  • 3 days ago 




and lots and lots of torturing and murdering people b/c they didn't say "jeebus" the right way. oh no. the Byzantines earned their iconic adjectival definition, one burning heretic at a time.
 
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Peter > freshacconci  • 3 days ago 




Funny, it is like that now as well, Funny that.
 
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Robincho > Gustav2  • 3 days ago 




Also falling were the number of cases of leonine starvation...
 
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teeveedub > Gustav2  • 3 days ago 




Don't forget: the fall of Rome was mostly the fault of teh gayz.
 
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Harley > freshacconci  • 3 days ago 




They forget we had a time there was a theocratic government run on Christian principle and the rule of the bible. It was called the Dark Ages.
 
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pickypecker  • 3 days ago 





  
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clay > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




Doesn't she live on a "farm" next to a "mental health clinic" while "fostering" children who actually live in residential treatment centers?
 
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bkmn > clay  • 3 days ago 




While her not-gay husband cures people of their gayness.
 
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dcurlee > bkmn  • 3 days ago 




Well if I saw him naked it might cure me
 
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Dan McPeek > dcurlee  • 3 days ago 




Mr. Bachman naked! Well that ruined my lunch AND
dinner!
 
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BlueberriesForMe > dcurlee  • 3 days ago 




We are NOT putting ANYONE through THAT (unless we don't like them).
 
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Marla R. Stevens > dcurlee  • 2 days ago 




Brain bleach! I need brain bleach!
 
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That_Looks_Delicious > bkmn  • 3 days ago 




LOL. I'm trying to imagine your & Clay's description set to the tune of the Patty Duke Show or Gilligan's Island themes. The whole thing just sounds like the premise for a sitcom, yet it really is her life.
I think with the right writers this would be hilarious. I'm picturing either Sarah Silverman or Parker Posey in the lead role.
 
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Henri205 > That_Looks_Delicious  • 3 days ago 




Maybe Eugene Levy could play Marcus if Parker Posey plays Michele.
 
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Librarykid > clay  • 2 days ago 




She should take her shit to a really religious country like Iran or our "great friend" (at least to the Bush Family) Saudi Arabia and see how fast her talk gets her jailed or worse.
 
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D. J. > clay  • 3 days ago 




I wonder how much she is getting in farm subsidies this year?
 
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Harley > clay  • 3 days ago 




Fostering only girls so safe from Ladybird.
 
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perversatile > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




''try to stay on topic this time''
This is how history will remember Michele

  


 
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Goofy Gus > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




Marcus is still upset Shellzies didn't become President. He dreamed of handling all the Inaugural Balls.
 
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StSean > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




i see marcus is about to get a pearl necklace from above.
 
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kaydenpat > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




LOL! Great comments live at JMG.
 
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Judas Peckerwood  • 3 days ago 




"...you’d want a biblical basis for your society just like the Pilgrims, through their example, gave us, that they embraced for us, just like George Washington and the founders..."
So the key to prosperity is the genocide of Native Americans and the the enslavement of Africans -- got it!
 
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clay > Judas Peckerwood  • 3 days ago 




Now, now, the Pilgrims didn't enslave Africans. Their grandchildren enslaved Irish women. (And George Washington was most definitely not a Puritan).
 
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Gustav2 > clay  • 3 days ago 




No, their decendants just ran the insurance companies on the slaves and owned the slave ships.
 
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Ernest Endevor > clay  • 3 days ago 




You're thinking of the Puritans of the Mass Bay Colony.
 
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Gustav2 > Judas Peckerwood  • 3 days ago 




And burning or hanging heretics.
 
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PLAINTOM > Judas Peckerwood  • 3 days ago 




You mean the good "Christian" Pilgrims who were starving to death until the "Heathen" natives taught them how to survive.
 
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Gerry Fisher > Sam_Handwich  • 2 days ago 




She should have chosen the Sam Handwich off the menu. It would have been more becoming.
 
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shellback  • 3 days ago 




Let me be the first to overuse this.
 
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Grimes > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




As much as I want to believe she said this, the meme has been proven to be false...
 
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kaydenpat > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




She and Palin are two peas in a pod.
 
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Versailles > kaydenpat  • 3 days ago 




That they both came from pods is without doubt. Peas though...
 
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Marides48 > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




Yea, we'll dig him up & see how that works. BTW B. Franklin was never a POTUS.
 
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Chicago joe > Marides48  • 3 days ago 




She is beyond stupid.....knowledge is sucked out of the heads of people around her, she's like a black hole for rational thought. She is beyond the abyss.
 
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boatboy_srq > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




I don't even know where to begin...
 
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Oh'behr > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




Minnesota Congresswoman ... I don't miss seeing it.
 
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Brad Lathem  • 3 days ago 




Fuck you, Christianist bitch. Not in the mood today.
 
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DesertSun59 > Brad Lathem  • 3 days ago 




She's more precisely a Dominionist.
 
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Brad Lathem > DesertSun59  • 3 days ago 




She's most precisely a fucking lunatic
 
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Chicago joe > Brad Lathem  • 3 days ago 




Who seriously needs to be hospitalized. I can't imagine how she's not a danger to her community.
 
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pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




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clay > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




Coke should be good enough for Jesus?
 
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MB > clay  • 3 days ago 




Jesus never liked Pepsi., doesn't mix well with Bacardi Limon.
;-(
 
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kaydenpat > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




I really hope that is an Onion joke and not actually one of her quotes. Sigh.
 
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Miji > kaydenpat  • 3 days ago 




According to PolitiFact and WikiQuote she did not actually say that, but don't go thinking that makes her any smarter. She has said plenty of things to equal that level of stupid.
 
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HKDaniel > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




mumble rhubarb...JESUS
 
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barrixines  • 3 days ago 




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shellback > barrixines  • 3 days ago 




Nice typeface.
 
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Robincho > barrixines  • 3 days ago 




Fast-forwarding, I thought this was the logo for Fairmont Hotels...
 
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Wynter Marie Starr  • 3 days ago 




Yes, the top of religious food chains live like kings. Religion is meant to control uneducated, ignorant, and stupid masses. I love my neighbors and am happy without superstition and judgmental religious believers like Bachmann and her ilk.
 
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kaydenpat > pickypecker  • 3 days ago 




At least she understands her shortcomings. That's a start.
 
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Paula  • 3 days ago 




Bachmann, Bachmann. I got nothing. Who is she again?
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada > Paula  • 3 days ago 




Oh, she's the beard for some Christian Clinic owner named Marcus.
 
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clay > Paula  • 3 days ago 




Belloq, before he melted.
 
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FAEN > Paula  • 3 days ago 




You probably remember her better as Crazy Eyes Bachmann married to Lady Bird Bachmann 😉
 
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bkmn  • 3 days ago 




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Joann Prinzivalli  • 3 days ago 




Ms. Bachmann appears to be under the influence of a "prosperity gospel" cult - examples of preachers in this line of profitable work include Joel Osteen and Chrdlo Dollar.
She is in serious need of a cult deprogrammer, but unfortunately we have to rely on her using her own natural resources, such as they are, to free herself of the clutches of the false god "Mammon" as clothed in christian-like garb.
 
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chicago dyke > Joann Prinzivalli  • 3 days ago 




i don't think there's a deprogrammer out there with the skills to fix this woman. she's a triple threat to reality, in her personal bubble. her bubble protects her with money. it keeps her angry and crazee via her 'husband.' and she's an attention hog, and knows the more extreme she is the more people will put a camera on her. she might even be a true believer in the jeebus stuff, more than the ordinary xtian grifter.
no, she'll go to her grave spewing this shit, even if you kidnapped her and put her in a room for six months with the best psych people in the world.
 
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Joann Prinzivalli > chicago dyke  • 3 days ago 




I am almost absolutely sure she is a "true believer." There was a point in time when I did an analysis (putting myself in her shoes), and concluded that *if* her in-the-bubble "facts" were true, she actually would be a good person - unfortunately, her "facts" just aren't true on so many levels - and what we get is GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out).
I do believe that underneath it all, she really is trying to be good and do good - if only she had the insight necessary to be able to discern truth from the lies she has been fed all her life, she could actually accomplish this..
Unlike many of the profiteering grifters out there who are merely preying on the sheeple, I'm convinced that she's a sheeple herself.
 
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MrSkippy > chicago dyke  • 3 days ago 




Yeah but her dead in 6 months... call that a win and move on!
 
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chicago dyke > MrSkippy  • 3 days ago 




we don't talk about killing even our enemies on this blog. you misconstrued my comment, which was meant to imply that she'll be an old lady in the future and even after the most compassionate treatment for an extended period by medical professionals, nothing they say will ever change her mind.
we are always suspicious of people who suggest anything but natural death of old age in jail for our enemies, also.
 
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MrSkippy > chicago dyke  • 3 days ago 




I didn't say "kill her" I just said her being dead in 6 months wouldn't be so bad.
I'd never actually espouse murder. I might walk the line but I don't actually think killing people is a good thing.
 
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Robincho > Joann Prinzivalli  • 3 days ago 




Afflicting the bone in her head is a textbook case of osteenoporosis...
 
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Thorn Spike  • 3 days ago 




"Don’t you want to live better? Don’t you want to be more prosperous? Don’t you want to be happier? Don’t you want to be free? Don’t you want poor people to do well? Don’t you want to love your neighbor? Are you tired, run-down, listless? Do you poop out at parties? Are you unpopular? The answer to all your problems is in this little bottle. Vitameatavegamin!"
With apologies to Lucy Ricardo.
 
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marti386 > Thorn Spike  • 3 days ago 




Vitameatavegamin is one of her best episodes! :D
 
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Rex  • 3 days ago 




Get a brain? You first.
 
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boatboy_srq > Rex  • 3 days ago 




Maybe we can have hers? It's pretty obvious she isn't using it.
 
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Rex > boatboy_srq  • 3 days ago 




Recalled as defective.
 
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boatboy_srq > Rex  • 3 days ago 




And labeled "Abby-something" no doubt...
 
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Dreaming Vertebrate > boatboy_srq  • 3 days ago 




Abby Normal?
 
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boatboy_srq > Dreaming Vertebrate  • 3 days ago 




Yes! Yes, that was the name...
 
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clay  • 3 days ago 




"Don’t you want to live better? Don’t you want to be more prosperous? Don’t you want to be happier? Don’t you want to be free?"
The first two thirds of her value set are about prosperity for herself and bear nothing in common with the Gospel accounts of Jesus. Only 1/6 of her examples is about living by God's rule, and even it's not explicit. Says everything we need to know about her "following Christ".
 
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Joseph Miceli > clay  • 3 days ago 




Seriously, the only person better at dancing around scripture to avoid behaving like a Christian is Mrs. Betty Bowers and she's a parody! Of course, Michele is a parody too, just an unintentional one.
 
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rusty57 > Joseph Miceli  • 2 days ago 




Wait... WHAT?!?!?!
Mrs. Betty Bowers isn't real?
 
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Gustav2 > clay  • 3 days ago 




The Gospel according to Grift.
 
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MichaelJ > clay  • 3 days ago 




A theologian's critical piece on prosperity gospel and its manifestations in American culture appeared in the NY Times a week ago. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02...
 
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Butch  • 3 days ago 




"Get a brain" coming from the Girl with the Faraway Eyes. Irony truly is dead.
 
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Cuberly  • 3 days ago 




OT: Recently she went on a rant about the current refugee crisis in Syria, Iraq and other regions. She insisted that the immigrants fleeing to the west were all part of a coordinated invasion by muslims. Through the whole rant she constantly referred to western europe and the US as "christendom". It was the most compassionless and evil thing I think I've heard her say. Children dying, families torn apart, desperately fleeing the ruins of Syria and violence from both the Assad regime and ISIS.
She flat out said that we have to close all borders, the US as well as all of the european countries. Because we have to preserve all of "christendom".
She's a heartless, vile individual.
 
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kaydenpat > Cuberly  • 3 days ago 




Yet she believes she's the Best Christian Ever.
 
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Cuberly > kaydenpat  • 3 days ago 




Yep, her new profession is Dominionist ranter, even though her bible says she's not supposed to do this and should be home makin Marcus sammiches.
 
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biki > Cuberly  • 3 days ago 




And he should be plowing her field at least once a week. shudder.....shudder...urk
 
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Cuberly > biki  • 3 days ago 




Ooooooohhhh Biki! Nonononono...bad Biki, bad!
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Craig Howell > kaydenpat  • 3 days ago 




Paging Betty Bowers!
 
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clay > Cuberly  • 2 days ago 




So, have you heard of David Barton? He's a fan of Ted Crus, soon to be employed by Turmp (indirectly).
 
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LovesIrony  • 3 days ago 




Pilgrims: burn the witches
 
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Ernest Endevor > LovesIrony  • 3 days ago 




They're Puritans.
 
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Derrick Johns > Ernest Endevor  • 3 days ago 




Oh, you're right, Ernest. Well, somebody in New England would have burned her husband.
 Michele would have been sent down to New Orleans, Mobile or Savannah for a fitting end performed by a Voodoo High Priestess: me.
 
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Ernest Endevor > Derrick Johns  • 3 days ago 




I'm sure you're right about that. What's dispiriting is that an ex member of Congress doesn't know the difference. The Pilgrims spent most of the time worrying about the Second Coming as they tried to stop their children growing up Dutch. They were so gormless I can't help but have a soft spot for them.
 
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Phillip in L.A. > Ernest Endevor  • 3 days ago 




+100 gormless
 
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b > LovesIrony  • 3 days ago 




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
 
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freshacconci > LovesIrony  • 3 days ago 




If you sold wood or rope, that was a very profitable business.
 
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JVB  • 3 days ago 




this hag is telling people to get a brain? LOL!!!!
 
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marti386 > JVB  • 3 days ago 




She has special eyes:

  


 
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Ninja0980  • 3 days ago 




Let us not forget that the people in her district knew she was like this and elected her over and over again until her ethic issues became a factor.
 Religion is a disease, simple as that.
 
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kaydenpat > Ninja0980  • 3 days ago 




That's one district I will avoid when I visit Minnesota. They all must be kooks.
 
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safari2bongaloo > Ninja0980  • 3 days ago 




A disease which has been shown to be curable by applying a magnetic field to the prefrontal cortex.
 
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chicago dyke > safari2bongaloo  • 3 days ago 




or increased taxation on the people who voted for her.
 
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Matthew Delemos > safari2bongaloo  • 3 days ago 




Burns: "Smithers, use the amnesia ray."
Smithers: "You mean the revolver, sir?"
Burns: "Yes. And be sure to wipe your own memory when you're finished."
 
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Phaius  • 3 days ago 




Michelle Bachmann worshipping at the altar of propserity theology? QUELLE SURPRISE.
 
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Rebecca Gardner  • 3 days ago 




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TheManicMechanic  • 3 days ago 




"Get a brain," said the "moran."
 
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TexasBoy  • 3 days ago 




Ahhh, yes, the Pilgrims AKA Puritans. The group that loved their neighbors, as long as their neighbors were exactly like them. If they worked on the Sabbath, or missed a church service, they were humiliated publicly and locked in the stocks in the town square. Scarlet Letters, mandatory worship. Those were the good ol' days, huh, Michele? Such love, such peace, such freedom.
 
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dr tod > TexasBoy  • 3 days ago 




Pilgrims and Puritans, two different branches of protestants.. They arrived separately within ten years and with distinct agendas. From what I can tell the Pilgrims were a lot more strict and unyielding. The Puritans never referred to themselves as Puritans {that would be bad form]. "Pilgrim" was only coined in the 1800's.
 
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Todd20036  • 3 days ago 




Yeah, because you Christ eaters are all about love. Who's trying to repeal gay rights laws? Who's trying to undo marriage equality? Who's trying to make America a Christian theocracy?
Not the secular people, I assure you
 
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DesertSun59  • 3 days ago 




If you're not familiar with Dominionism, she is the perfect example of how a society will fail if they are in charge.
 
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Michael Smith  • 3 days ago 




So I guess all of those poor Christians just aren't praying to the baby Jesus enough.
 
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clay > Michael Smith  • 3 days ago 




They chose . . . poorly.
 
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GC  • 3 days ago 




Related: liberal core values -- fairness and avoiding harm -- are actually objectively closer to a basis for ethics than conservative core values -- authority, loyalty, and purity -- because those liberal values are universalizable; they can apply to everyone, and work best when they do.
Conservative core values, on the other hand, "actively resist universalization": by definition they require rulers and subjects, domination and submission, in-group and out-group, "us" and "them".
Read more about MacArthur genius award recipient Rebecca Goldstein's argument: http://www.alternet.org/story/...
And read more about Dominator Culture and Partnership Culture in general: http://centerforpartnership.or...
"Get a brain" always reminds me of this:
  
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ben-andy  • 3 days ago 




"Give all you have to the poor and follow after me."
He really couldn't have been any clearing in issuing his instructions, Crazy Eyes.
For instance, he could have said, "Follow after me and give all you have to the poor." That would have meant you could still be working on the "following after" part before doing the giving part. But, somehow, Dog Incarnate, didn't say it that way, so what's stopping you from following after him? Could it be your ideas about "prosperity" or would it just be Satan?
 
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KQCA  • 3 days ago 




I pray to Jesus and nothing happens. Christians pray to Jesus and gay marriage becomes the rule of the land. Go figure.
 
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Mike C  • 3 days ago 




It's terribly prosperous for pastors who don't pay taxes!
 
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Chucktech  • 3 days ago 




Bwa ha ha, sweetie, it really only takes half a brain to know that god up in heaven is the most laughably dumb-ass hoax to ever plague this planet.
 
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WNY  • 3 days ago 




'you’d want a biblical basis for your society just like the Pilgrims, through their example, gave us, that they embraced for us'
Like when they gave the Native Americans small-pox infected blankets? Praise Jeebus.
 
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2016A  • 3 days ago 




Please go away !
 
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Mike in NC  • 3 days ago 




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penpal  • 3 days ago 




YEAH, GET A BRIAN, MORANS!
 
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BobSF_94117  • 3 days ago 




I imagine the Pilgrims would have locked George Washington up for being debauched.
 
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grada3784 > BobSF_94117  • 3 days ago 




He was fined for breaking a blue law in his Presidency.
 
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Leo Tallant  • 3 days ago 




SHE of all people is saying that WE should get a brain? Well if THAT isn't the pot calling the kettle "non-scratch hard-coat enamel in avocado green".
(Sorry about that, my elderly mom who lives with us watches way too much QVC) LOL
 
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grada3784 > Leo Tallant  • 3 days ago 




Nothing wrong with that. QVC and HSN make me go all a-quiver when the kitchen porn is on.
 
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bsinps  • 3 days ago 




Bat shit crazy. Never fails.
 
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Ragnar Lothbrok  • 3 days ago 




I assure you, I do NOT want to love my neighbor. That evil nasty nosy lying witch is rotten rotten to the core !!!
 
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FAEN  • 3 days ago 




If your version of living a good life includes pretending your husband is straight when even headless people can tell he's gay you can keep your hypocritical book.
By the way, how is Lady Bird Bachman these days? Still making money off reparative therapy?
 
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Natty Enquirer  • 3 days ago 




Ah yes, the Pilgrims. Half the crew and passengers perished by the time they finally built some houses in the dead of winter, after having stolen food from a native village abandoned when the inhabitants died of European disease. Good times.
 
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Dreaming Vertebrate  • 3 days ago 




Proving once again, that a rational mind, free from delusions, is something to be treasured.
 
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Gyeo  • 3 days ago 




Not even in the Bible did Biblical society prospered long before being taken over by someone else.
 
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clay > Gyeo  • 3 days ago 




The 8th & 7th century prophets had plenty to say on the commercialization and imperial globalization of agriculture. I'd think a US Rep from a farm state would read them once.
 
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Gustav2 > clay  • 3 days ago 




So they were anti-GMO? /s
 
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barrixines  • 3 days ago 




The trouble with having one eye on the pot and the other up the chimney, Michele, is that it doesn't leave you one to watch your sister-man husband.
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada  • 3 days ago 




Ugh, just like Palin, she rises from the swamp of has-been's and never-will-be's to grace us with her completely irrelevant opinion.
 
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Jerry Hinnant  • 3 days ago 




It is not true, then I will make true by repeating it enough times that all the stupid people will believe that it is. This is the Republican modus operandi.
 
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j.martindale  • 3 days ago 




Words of wisdom from Michele.
 
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DonnaLee  • 3 days ago 




She's so irrelevant it's amazing. She knew she couldn't keep up the congressional gig, so she's now just trying to get out of the house.
 
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pj > DonnaLee  • 3 days ago 




thats because her marriage isnt biblical
 
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Mark  • 3 days ago 




Bwahahahahahahaha
 
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sword  • 3 days ago 




She sounds like one of the television 'preachers' who promise that for every dollar someone donates to his ' church', they will make hundreds back, because God personally blesses their donations.
 
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Michael Bruce Florist  • 3 days ago 




I read "prosperous" as "preposterous," LOL!
 
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RickCabral  • 3 days ago 




"Get a brain..." Look who's talking. She may not actually need a new one, but get the old one steam cleaned, at least.
 
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Michael Abbett  • 3 days ago 




I'm sorry but...aren't there a lot of religious people in the Appalachians and throughout the South, while those places also are mostly welfare states, with more than the average number of citizens living below the poverty line? Apparently the brain I have just can't process all of this...
 
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MrSkippy  • 3 days ago 




Irony: A vapid, empty headed twat tells you to "get a brain"
 
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Gianni > MrSkippy  • 3 days ago 




So true.
 
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marti386  • 3 days ago 




"Don’t you want to live better? Don’t you
 want to be more prosperous? Don’t you want to be happier? Don’t you
want to be free? Don’t you want poor people to do well? Don’t you want
to love your neighbor? If you want all those things, David, you would
embrace competition with both arms and you’d want a biblical basis for
your society"
Or maybe rich, white, straight, cis republicans could just stop acting like total d!cks.
 
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dcurlee  • 3 days ago 




Isn't it biblical that she isn't to speak unless asked to talk
 
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Cuberly  • 3 days ago 




Riiiiiiiiiight.

  
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safari2bongaloo  • 3 days ago 




The Puritans died out. Their children found that fishing and commerce were much better than faith. It's the reason why we have the term "grandfather clause", because children could no longer expect their parents to fit into the rigid model of Puritanic belief and needed to be "saved" via the devotion of their grandparents.
 
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boatboy_srq > safari2bongaloo  • 3 days ago 




And here I thought it meant they were saved from their grandfathers' claws...
 
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Raising_Rlyeh  • 3 days ago 




Because when I think of freedom my mind immediately thinks of the theocracy that was puritan life.
 
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sandollar_man  • 3 days ago 




When the Christians in Salem Mass. were torturing people and calling them witches, in 1692, they were absolutely convinced that they were going to send their victims into a better place. They were absolutely convinced that they were doing God's will, when they killed those people. Their mindset at the time was righteousness and helpfulness. They were sure that they were doing good deeds for the poor souls who had been possessed.
But it was all based on a phantasm.
“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” - Steven Weinberg
 
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Neely OHara > sandollar_man  • 3 days ago 




Great quote -- I'm SO embroidering that on a sampler! (I'm assuming that's the Stephen Weinberg who's a Nobel laureate in Physics...)
 
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Christopher  • 3 days ago 




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Mike in NC > Christopher  • 2 days ago 




Well then,
 
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Christopher > Mike in NC  • a day ago 




Well, he's already my workout coach, so sure!

  


 
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > rabbit_ears  • 3 days ago 




I had forgotten that Michele had an acting career before her circus career.
 
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Randy503  • 3 days ago 




Yeah, Russia is beating us economically, as is Nairobi.
 
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MikeBx2  • 3 days ago 




Another interview synopsis that reads like satire. Her religion and political party actively attempts to block freedoms of certain groups, cuts aid to the poor and is proud of hating our neighbors.
 
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GC > MikeBx2  • 3 days ago 




Poe's Law... it could well have come from Christwire, Betty Bowers, or The Onion!
 
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Marides48  • 3 days ago 




What an upside down simple minded sense of history she has.
 
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Bryan  • 3 days ago 




Super not into taking advice from Michele Bachmann. Kthx.
 
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camel54  • 3 days ago 




Poor cow's off the medication again. What utter drivel. Just look around - all the "christian" places suffer from inequality, poverty, poor education, etc, etc.
Secular democratic socialist countries have the highest per capita prosperity and the healthiest societies, so you can shut it, bitch.
 
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MrSkippy > camel54  • 3 days ago 




Well what the hell do you think she was talking about when she said "prosperity"
You think she actually meant everyone gets more? Hell no! She meant what you described.
 
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Luther Kreiger  • 3 days ago 




Michelle honey, if all of humanity had brains like yours we'd still be figuring out stone tools and worshipping the big, shiny, day-ball.
 
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kaydenpat  • 3 days ago 




She's right. That's why all the wealthy countries are governed by Christianists.
Oh wait ...
 
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RaygunsGoZap  • 3 days ago 




Somebody please throw water* on this evil witch so we can be done with her.
* in this instance water refers to flaming car parts
 
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Quadrillion  • 3 days ago 




The Unhinged make it seem like the very stakes of the soul rest on their words, but all they want is vain glory and your dollars.
 
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swirl  • 3 days ago 




According to the Bible, slavery is okay and women should shut their dirty mouths.
 
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bsinps  • 3 days ago 




"Love thy neighbor"? Yes, as long as their not LGBT right? She also better re-read the history of the pilgrims, as most of them did not servive the first few years upon arriving at Plymouth.
When will she "get a brain"?
 
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Derrick Johns > bsinps  • 3 days ago 




You know, journalist, Clay Cane, wrote an article on the original reason the Pilgrims celebrated what became known as Thanksgiving. They murdered a neighboring Native American community who didn't trust them (had good reason not to, didn't they?) The Pilgrims held a dinner to celebrate their slaughter.
 We have that dinner of gratitude today-- 400 years later.
 
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TexasBoy  • 3 days ago 




Studies shows 35% of potential GOP voters believe there will be a Zombie Apocalypse if Trump isn't the next President..
 
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Michael Rush  • 3 days ago 




There's nothing left to say about this woman

  
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Henri205  • 3 days ago 




Is she taking speaking lessons from Caribou Barbie? Word Salad 101.
 
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geoffalnutt  • 3 days ago 




At first - I thought it was okay that they occasionally let her out. Now? I don't think so.
 
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Treant  • 3 days ago 




Perhaps we should analyze the lifestyles of the Christian-run countries versus those that either don't have a religion officially or it's very weakly held.
I mean, she's not a numbers person, so that's not gonna do shit for her, but...
 
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barrixines > Treant  • 3 days ago 




I earn two hundred million a day - same price as Barry's India trip - from reading the Bible.
 
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Treant > barrixines  • 3 days ago 




Yeah, but does your friend's stride made earn $43 an hour on the Internet? Huh? Does he?
 
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KQCA  • 3 days ago 




Let's poll the millions of people, the majority of evangelicals, living below the poverty line.
 
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safari2bongaloo > KQCA  • 3 days ago 




They're just temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
 
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kaydenpat > KQCA  • 3 days ago 




And all those super Christian third world countries.
 
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Ellen Sandbeck  • 3 days ago 




Yeah, those pilgrims were just wonderful at the "love your neighbor" thing...
 
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Alan43  • 3 days ago 




"more prosperous"?
Didn't she read that story in the Gospels where Jesus tells the rich young man to sell all his possessions? Or where he sends the disciples out and tells them not to take any money or even a change of clothes?
 
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AJD  • 3 days ago 




Last time we had a biblical society, it was called the Dark Ages. By contrast, the relatively moderate Islamic world picked up on the Greek and Roman learning that Christendom had mostly abandoned, along with the economic rewards thereof, while the most prosperous and technologically advanced nation was the emphatically not Christian China.
Take a look at the Muslim world today - particularly the countries without huge oil reserves - for an idea of what your biblical society would look like, and compare it with Israel, which had built a high-tech and prosperous economy despite a dearth of natural resources.
 
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chicago dyke > AJD  • 3 days ago 




but israel is still as constipated with religion as its ancient mythological leaders were purported to be, and isn't exactly proof that basing a state on religion is a good idea.
 
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GC > chicago dyke  • 3 days ago 




The modern state of Israel was actually established by secular Zionists, not the religious Orthodox Jews who held that it wasn't any business of humans to act before God sent the Messiah. (Still waiting on that count....)
 
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chicago dyke > GC  • 3 days ago 




the very idea of israel is religious. i know there are and always have been a lot of secular Jews, but the point is no one would be talking about this particular strip of land right now if not for a mythology about its creation and "divine" gifting.
 
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Priya Lynn > chicago dyke  • 3 days ago 




Ummm, I don't know if I buy that.
 
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GreenEyedLilo  • 3 days ago 




"Get a brain"--what, Michele, to eat? Because I know you and the other zombies who listen to David Barton ain't using them to think.
 
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Gustav2  • 3 days ago 




The Pilgrims were such nice people. and their cousins the Puritans even more so.
 
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Ernest Endevor > Gustav2  • 3 days ago 




The Pilgrims weren't much like the Puritans. They were mostly feckless and hopelessly naive. After 20 years Plymouth was mostly deserted and Bradford reckoned their exodus to have been a failure.
 
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Where have I heard that before?
 
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Mommie Dammit  • 3 days ago 




Alright, I know I've been dealing with servers and network printers all day but....
WHATHEFUCKWAZZAT??? Is that Common Core English, or did I miss the class in illiterate gibberish?
 
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MB  • 3 days ago 




Show us your FULL tax return and the IRS statement from your church. I want to SEE where you and Mrs. Bachmann tithe a MINIMUM of 10% of ALL of your prosperity.
Prosperity gospel, my left nut. Rather, it's she has hers so FUCK the rest of ya's.
How many homeless and hungry people and children has she fed in Minnesota this past year, hmmmm ??????
 
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Robincho  • 3 days ago 




Love these two pix! The first is an out-take from the final scene of Sunset Boulevard, and the second looks a lot like Julia Roberts when she's trying to think...
 
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Johnny Wyeknot > Robincho  • 3 days ago 




Hahaha! I thought the same! "I'm ready for my close-up Mr. Demille."
 
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jomicur  • 3 days ago 




Yeah, sure, the Bible is the key to prosperity. I guess no one in this country read the Bible in 1929, then. Have I got that right, Michele?
 
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Brian in Valdosta  • 3 days ago 




Yes. Good advice. "Get a brain."
 
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Curieux Bleu  • 3 days ago 




Listen UP Michele,
It takes a brain in the first place to perceive the need, and since you don't have one that functions along logical pathways, just STFU, you've already polluted the Body Politic most grievously with all your Bull Crap and outrageous pandering to selfish elite and ugly Republican GREED.
You are no damn "Christian" no way no how. Just part of the ANTI-CHRIST in fact.
Although you will feed the worms in the ground in the last analysis, go to HELL anyways, and C U Next Tuesday, B*e*o*t*c*h.
#Ignorant $$$ Money WHORE. #SELFISH BARBARIAN
 
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Puckfair52  • 3 days ago 




Zombie Apocalypse.... Brains mnum num num Brains get a brain
 
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biki > Puckfair52  • 3 days ago 




A zombie would starve after cracking her head open.
 
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Octavio  • 3 days ago 




There went my lunch. Thanks.
 
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unklespunky  • 3 days ago 




Brainless birds of a feather spread their hate together
 
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KnownDonorDad  • 3 days ago 




David Barton, head of Ted Cruz's superPAC.
 
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TheManicMechanic  • 3 days ago 




See... unt.
 
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McSwagg > TheManicMechanic  • 3 days ago 




The University of North Texas has a special coffee mug for just this type of occasion.
  
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Joseph Miceli  • 3 days ago 




Crazy, lying contemptible piece of shit. As a person she is worthless and as a human she does more harm than good. I suggest she either become a cloistered nun or give in to her repressed desires and set up shop on a street corner somewhere. I'm sure the latter prospect will benefit her weight loss program.
 
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Blake Jordan  • 3 days ago 




Not even remotely true!!!!
 
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Phillip in L.A.  • 3 days ago 




Uh-oh guys, there was just an earthquake here in L.A.
Either that or Fat Tony something something something
 
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Robert Conner  • 3 days ago 




Damn I miss Michele. Gathering in the warm summer evenings with my fellow constituents, PBR's a-chilling, to watch the bats fly out of her head.
 
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2patricius2  • 3 days ago 




Of course a Biblical society is the basis of prosperity. It's called a Church that scams and preys on people. And David Barton knows better than most just how well that scam has worked for him. And Michelle Bachmann knows how well her husband's "Christian" counseling scam has worked for them.
 
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GuestStop  • 3 days ago 




Hey, dumb shit pill popper, gay fucking is the only thing that will make society a prosperous place. Where the gays can fuck freely are the only places that thrive.
 
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Gianni  • 3 days ago 




The National Nutjob reappears and speaks. I'm grateful that she and The National Twit, Sarah Palin, don't speak on the same days. That would truly overload my senses.
 
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JT  • 3 days ago 




Bachmann knows what it's like to function without a brain.
 
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biki  • 3 days ago 




Michele, heed your own advice and get a working non-extremist xtian brain.
 
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Tom (Winnipeg)  • 3 days ago 




Has she no knowledge of the thousands of years' history of the East Indians? But then, she hasn't much of a brain to begin with.
 
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Lets check with the Amish and see just how prosperous they all are.
 
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Pew: More Christians Now Accept Homosexuality
December 19, 2015 LGBT News, Religion


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Acceptance of homosexuality is rising across the broad spectrum of American Christianity, including among members of churches that strongly oppose homosexual relationships as sinful, according to an extensive Pew Research Center survey of U.S. religious beliefs and practices.

Amid a changing religious landscape that has seen a declining percentage of Americans who identify as Christian, a majority of U.S. Christians (54%) now say that homosexuality should be accepted, rather than discouraged, by society. While this is still considerably lower than the shares of religiously unaffiliated people (83%) and members of non-Christian faiths (76%) who say the same, the Christian figure has increased by 10 percentage points since we conducted a similar study in 2007.

It reflects a growing acceptance of homosexuality among all Americans – from 50% to 62% – during the same period. Among Christians, this trend is driven partly by younger church members, who are generally more accepting of homosexuality than their elder counterparts.

For example, roughly half (51%) of evangelical Protestants in the Millennial generation (born between 1981 and 1996) say homosexuality should be accepted by society, compared with a third of evangelical Baby Boomers and a fifth of evangelicals in the Silent generation
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lymis  • 2 months ago 




This shows just how much the conservative Evangelical Christians have completely hijacked the dialogue, and how little the media reflects that.
With numbers like these, people like Tony Perkins should never be on television, or if he is, he should always be balanced by a mainstream Christian voice as well as a secular one.
It also shows what most people who were raised Catholic already understand - that the views and experience of Catholics is deeply disconnected from the policies of the Catholic hierarchy, and they don't see church the way outsiders think they do.
 
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mari > lymis  • 2 months ago 




My mother is in her 90s and has always been a devout Catholic, while disagreeing with the church on so many important matters I marvel at the cognitive dissonance. Her attitude when I was growing up was, "Just leave gay people alone." This didn't mean rejecting them; she had gay friends, and her favorite nephew's partner was always welcome. She meant for The Powers That Be to stop harassing them. This doesn't seem radical now, but we're talking about a time when anti-sodomy laws were rarely questioned, and she was way ahead of the Psychology establishment.
What's even more amazing to me is that my grandmother, born in the 19th century to Irish immigrant parents, had much the same attitude. When my mother was a teen, she defended Mom's right to hang out with a gay male friend. My grandmother was also a staunch Catholic, to the extent that she was reputed to run the local church and the priests went in fear of her wrath if she disapproved of their actions.
We used to say, "The Italians make the rules and the Irish keep them." I now think there was a strong element within that Irish Catholic community that took those rules with a shaker of salt. This would account for the extraordinary turn that attitudes in Ireland apparently took after the disclosure of so many scandals.
 
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clay > mari  • 2 months ago 




The Catholics don't actually surprise me, considering how many of their priests and nuns have been queer, if (or not) celibate.
 
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Robert Conner > mari  • 2 months ago 




I'm not expert on Ireland but my guess is that many in Ireland finally began to question the power of the Church due to sheer revulsion over the pedophile scandal in the US as well as Ireland and the disgusting revelations that have emerged from the Catholic Church's gulag for unwed mothers. The Church has been a murderous institution for 17 centuries but that history gets pretty hard to ignore when it crops up in your own community. The evidence that young children may have died of untreated disease and malnutrition in Ireland's unwed mothers "homes" should have some people under investigation for murder.
 
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The Irish Atheist > Robert Conner  • 2 months ago 




The child rape scandals and the Magdalene Laundries did their due, but many of us were already increasingly disenchanted by the religious turmoil of the Troubles and the Church's complete non-interest in what their disciples were doing in Ireland.
 
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ExGayTherapyKills > lymis  • 2 months ago 




Amen
 
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BobSF_94117 > lymis  • 2 months ago 




Do you suppose some of those "mainstream Christian voices" would want to put up a religious Christmas display?
 
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Chucktech > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




What does that have to do with anything? If you mean on public property, as long as we get to put up a Christmas display we want, fine and dandy.
 
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Bj Lincoln > Chucktech  • 2 months ago 




I would love to see a Solstice display! I'm all for the Atheists putting up a display. If they are going to use ANYTHING public, including tax money, it's all or nothing for its use.
 
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StSean  • 2 months ago 




oh, yay. i've been dying for their acceptance.
 
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Ed Burrow > StSean  • 2 months ago 




I see what you did there...
 
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RaygunsGoZap > StSean  • 2 months ago 




Oh yeah? Well I died FOR and was resurrected BY their acceptance. Which makes me Gay Jeebus. Come, eat of my flesh.
 
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Nic Peterson  > RaygunsGoZap  • 2 months ago 




All kneel before resurrected gay Jeebus!
 
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Ed Burrow  • 2 months ago 




i read this on freerepublic. wow, they are....unhappy.
 
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oikos > Ed Burrow  • 2 months ago 




Two comments there made me smile:
"The culture was has been fought and lost."
"The “culture war” was the wrong war to fight, anyway."
 
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Gustav2 > oikos  • 2 months ago 




When you have lost the Lutheran Church-Misery Synod, it is over.
 
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Paul > Gustav2  • 2 months ago 




No, it'll really be over when the Southern Baptists reach that magical 51%.
 
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JesterRedPanda > oikos  • 2 months ago 




Pshh.... you cant seriously be implying that they actually are able to perceive reality?! lol
 
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oikos > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




No. The rest of the comments are what you would expect about god smiting and bible verses and gibberish. They are still crazy as loons. :)
 
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CanuckDon > oikos  • 2 months ago 




What also has likely happened (it's a guess 'cause I've never ventured over there), is that many of their regular visitors in the past dropped out because of their own changing views over the years leaving just a stale, miserable hardcore group of them to fester and steep in their pitiful lives.
 
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Ragnar Lothbrok > CanuckDon  • 2 months ago 




Or croaked
 
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Elliott > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




Hahaha. You're awesome!
 
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Chicago joe > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




Suicide is up in that demographic....older, white...
 
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RaygunsGoZap > oikos  • 2 months ago 




All we need is 7%! 7 is God's number and He will smite to death the other 93% and leave his true believers to re-populate the Earth. Mark my words!
Or something like that
 
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Nic Peterson  > oikos  • 2 months ago 




Smiting Jeebus is totes sexy.
 
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Rockola404 > Ed Burrow  • 2 months ago 




I'm having trouble finding the FReeRepublic article.
 
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Nic Peterson  > Rockola404  • 2 months ago 




You aren't missing much.
 
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Prion  • 2 months ago 




There's a christianist row in Nebraska. Groups can sign up (first come, first served) for public display space in the capital building rotunda and all the atheist groups got first dibs before the religionists for the holidays. Funny!http://www.omaha.com/news/nebr...
edit: addedhttp://www.nytimes.com/aponlin...
To be clear, the nativity scene is being removed because that's the schedule they signed up for. The secular/humanist/atheist groups signed up early for the "good" slots during christmas.
edited again to add link to opening ceremonies with comments by atheist state Senator Ernie Chambers "...christians are among the greatest liars..."
  




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JesterRedPanda > Prion  • 2 months ago 




oh that is absolutely brilliant! I hope this sort of thing happens in every state building that even thinks of allowing for religious displays
 
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BobSF_94117 > Prion  • 2 months ago 




Oh, yes, let's ruin other people's holidays! This way, they can turn around and get permits for all the places we would normally hold Pride in June.
 
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lymis > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




Sorry, but if following the rules for getting a space in a government building "ruins your Christmas" then you're doing something wrong.
The atheists were not given preferential treatment. They followed the same rules everyone else did. The Christian groups, apparently assuming that they were the only ones who mattered, delayed submitting their "first come, first served" applications, and the other groups got there first.
Christians need to understand that Christmas is now, as a public matter, MUCH more a secular holiday than it is a religious one. There is no support for the idea that pine trees, snowflakes, reindeer, and Santa Claus are any form of religious expression, no matter how much they want it to be.
The figured their space in the Capitol was guaranteed by right. It's not.
If this means that they want to ban all private holiday displays in the Capitol, fine. If the want it reserved for themselves only, they need a wakeup call.
Let's not pretend that for these people, a Nativity scene in the secular Capitol building is just a holiday display. If it were, and they treated it that way, they wouldn't be getting this pushback. For far too many of them, it's a sign that they deserve primary influence in the government. Wrong.
It's no different from things like "in God We Trust" on the money. If it was just a design, most people really wouldn't blink twice. But when people point to it and say "See, even our money says religious people run society, so we get to tell you what your civil rights are," then it needs to come off the money.
I'm of the generation where the push among Christians was to reclaim the religious meaning of Christmas - by de-emphasising public displays, fighting commercialization, and working to get other Christians to keep it private and show up for church services. My mom was a life-long, devout Christian, and she used to nearly spit at government religious displays, while happily enjoying private ones and things like the huge Christmas show at Disney.
 
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Chucktech > lymis  • 2 months ago 




Thank you, lymis. Another beautifully written post.
 
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Herald > lymis  • 2 months ago 




Absolutely!!! I remember the sermon and rants about the "War on Christmas" being rampant commercialism which is hijacking a spiritual holy day.
 
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Mark Glenn > lymis  • 2 months ago 




This...
 
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Silver Badger > Mark Glenn  • 2 months ago 




What?
 
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BobSF_94117 > lymis  • 2 months ago 




The atheists were not given preferential treatment. They followed the
same rules everyone else did. The Christian groups, apparently assuming that they were the only ones who mattered, delayed submitting their "first come, first served" applications, and the other groups got there first.
I don't think I've ever seen you so obtuse or disingenuous. The atheist groups purposely coordinated to block the Christian groups. That's just mean.
 
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Chucktech > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




Bullshit. Did you read the article?
 
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Silver Badger > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




If its good for the goose its good for the gander. My only complaint is the isn't a handy airlock...
 
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Friday > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




Frankly, on that point I do tend to agree, Bob: just cause it's within the rules doesn't mean it's not kind of a lame thing do do. Not that I've got any sympathy for those marking territory for their desired theocracy, either.
Really you'd think even the Christians would want to back off a bit from the religious displays in government buildings, anyway, thanks to the Christian Right's nastiness, those symbols don't mean anything happy or friendly to lots of Americans, particularly LGBT ones.
 
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Chucktech > Friday  • 2 months ago 




The Thomas More Society, one of the most odious of Catholic groups, thought they had their little creche spot all sewn up because, hey, Christmas. They thought their christian privilege and entitlement made their display a shoo-in. They may cry me a river.
 
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Friday > Chucktech  • 2 months ago 




Well, I'm not exactly broken up about it either, but frankly that's more the Christian Right's kind of tactics, I wouldn't want to see others become that.
 
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Librarykid > Friday  • 2 months ago 




Like fighting fire with fire? As someone said, "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight."
 
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Friday > Librarykid  • 2 months ago 




How bout don't bring a gun to a holiday festival? :)
 
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John T > Friday  • 2 months ago 




As if Christians would ever say, "Okay, atheists and satanists, I see your point. We shouldn't be putting our religious displays in government buildings." Instead they will only say "We need to fight back harder by dominating all the public space!!!" Imagine the mindset of that neighbor who has to outdo everyone on the block with his ostentatious Christmas lights display, but multiplied with a sense of outrage and religious fervor.
 
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Friday > John T  • 2 months ago 




I'm aware of what's going on, I'm just not so sure this was a productive response to emulate, either. In fact, it just reduces to their level.
 
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Silver Badger > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




You mean, like they have done to us for years? Poor haters. By all means lets give them a taste of their own medicine.
 
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Librarykid > Guest  • 2 months ago 




Please don't forget the Jews who have suffered horribly under Christian love.
 
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LovesIrony > Guest  • 2 months ago 




but the lies we tell our kids about christmas and easter and santa the easter bunny don't really matter on our holiest days of the year.
 
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zhera > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




How exactly are people's holidays ruined by this?
 
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John T > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




Christians have been ruining my holiday season for years by blasting that infernal repertoire of Christmas songs in every public space in North America beginning the day after Halloween. Payback, bitches.
 
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BobSF_94117 > John T  • 2 months ago 




I think you're confusing Christians with corporate capitalists, not that there isn't a lot of overlap.
 
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John T > BobSF_94117  • 2 months ago 




Curiously, the only Christmas songs that I kind of like (i.e. can tolerate) were written by Jews.
 
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Andrea_Rae  • 2 months ago 




I got the usual BS in the mail from jehovah's witness so i sent them back a copy of Freedom From Religion Foundations publication Freethought Today, perhaps it worked......nah.
 
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joe ho  • 2 months ago 




And it's not because of religion that these changes are happening, it's in spite of it.
 
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Paige Turner  • 2 months ago 




This is great news except for two things
1) God doesnt exist.
2) Religion, whilst comforting for some, is a pox on the world
 
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Todd20036 > Paige Turner  • 2 months ago 




TheFSM exists, and He is not pleased with your cynicism. Bow down to Him, or suffer the boiling wrath of his zesty meat sauce!!!
 
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camel54 > Todd20036  • 2 months ago 




FSM for we humble vegetarians?
 
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MB  • 2 months ago 




We Episcopalians, The Frozen Chosen, are delighted to be at the top
of the Protestant acceptance list. As older homophobic members just die
 and take their fears with them, it does get better, for everyone. As Robin Williams said it best about The Episcopal Church: "All of the pageantry, none of the guilt."
~~~~ MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY, HAPPY HOLIDAYS ~~~~
to all of my fellow JMG flying-monkeys !

  
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stuckinthewoods > MB  • 2 months ago 




We Etruscopalians, The Lampoon Platoon, wonder what has taken you and the Romans so long.
But we also wish JMG-ers holidays that are golden, myrrthful, and frankinsensational.
 
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Robincho > stuckinthewoods  • 2 months ago 




Frankly, I'm incensed that you came up with these constructs first. You are Total Manger Danger, and the response of true Discopalians will be myrrhciless...
 
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Dana Chilton > MB  • 2 months ago 




I grew up in a conservative southern church that is unfriendly to anything that isn't them. After leaving and becoming Atheist, I've come to really appreciate my Episcopal neighbors. St. Pauls down the street is mostly LGBT (and full of pretty cute choices for a potential husband) and is a strong advocate for us in the San Diego community. I still remember the first time I met an Episcopal priest who questioned even the existence of god. nice :)
 
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JCF > Dana Chilton  • 2 months ago 




A lesbian couple I am good (online) friends with, got married at St Paul's (San Diego) Cathedral [they are both former Roman Catholics. One's gone gung ho into Episcopal liturgy, the other's an atheist who supports her wife]
 
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Steverino > MB  • 2 months ago 




I once heard a Roman Catholic say that Episcopalians are just better-dressed Catholics.
: )
 
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Pierre > Steverino  • 2 months ago 




And instead of guilt they just write a check...
 
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Librarykid > Steverino  • 2 months ago 




That might have something to do with not having to clothe large families out of the St. Vincent de Paul Salvation Army and Goodwill Thrift Shops.
 
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leastyebejudged > MB  • 2 months ago 




Midnight Mass on Christmas is a beautiful thing. I have nice memories of it.
 
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Librarykid > leastyebejudged  • 2 months ago 




Lots of people enjoy the performing arts.
 
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chicago dyke  • 2 months ago 




one of the things that constantly strikes me is that most people have absolutely no idea why their church is really called "blabbity blabbity church of blabbity with blabbity." words like 'Lutheran' or 'Episcopal' mean so little to most people. i happen to love history and so i've read a lot about how xtianity turned from one into many over time, so to speak.
but it's just funny to me. people fought wars and brought down empires to create or destroy this or that word in xtianity. here in murka, people just know they lurv them some jeebus and whatever their leader says is right. idiots.
in my 'hood you've got the sworn enemies of the 15th century, next door neighbors to each other in both church and homes. it sort of reduces the meaning of those ancient squabbles to what it should be: of very little value. my jeebus can beat your jeebus, heretic! let's burn some witches!
 
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popebuck1 > chicago dyke  • 2 months ago 




It's one of the things that annoy me about people who want "Christianity" to be given official status in American government. What KIND of "Christianity"? And why are you so sure YOUR particular flavor is going to be considered the "right kind"? Because historically, once one group gains power, everyone else suddenly becomes the "wrong kind" of Christian, whether they supported the revolution or not.
 
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John T > chicago dyke  • 2 months ago 




I grew up a devout Christian, but probably the biggest blow to my faith as a teenager was reading about the history of various Christian sects — all of which believed that their interpretation of God's Word was the one and only true interpretation — going to war over their relatively minor differences in theology and doctrine. God apparently couldn't be bothered to step in and referee. My pastors and Christian school teachers always told me that believing in His Word was the most important part of being a Christian, so why would God have given us a book of scripture riddled with ambiguities and contradictions?
 
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Randy503 > chicago dyke  • 2 months ago 




Great analysis! and you are so right.
 
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Chucktech  • 2 months ago 




So. Christians are starting to say we're not so bad. So, like, what changed? Did Gawd change His mind, as all knowing perfect beings are want to do? Did the gay rights movement make persuasive arguments to Him? Are we going through yet another version of "I know the bible says that, but this is what it really means?"
Or are you christians finally realizing you have to salvage your ridiculous dying cult in a desperate attempt to keep young people from leaving in droves? Yeah, thanks a whole goddam lot, and bad luck to you.
 
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John T > Chucktech  • 2 months ago 




God's divine word is eternal and unchanging, except when He reveals new interpretations to suit current political/cultural moods and prejudices. By now, He has distributed more system updates than Apple.
 
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AnotherJosh > John T  • 2 months ago 




Just imagine how long it would take to apply all 2,000 years of updates if you had to reinstall from scratch!
 
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Ed Burrow  • 2 months ago 




And that sound? Tony, that's your boat hitting a huge fucking iceberg.
 
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BlueberriesForMe > Ed Burrow  • 2 months ago 




Tonettey will have to be in a lifeboat b4 anyone else. It's the Lard"s will.
 
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Todd20036 > BlueberriesForMe  • 2 months ago 




Actually, he doesn't need it.
He couldn't possibly sink!
 
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme  • 2 months ago 




It demonstrates that not all self-identified religious people are right wingnuts and shows that there is a great divide between the hierarchy/leadership and the rank and file. It also shows that churches that are more accepting are also more in tune with their members.
 
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geoffalnutt  • 2 months ago 




It's a very strange kind of acceptance, indeed. It's as if we are being told by the mentally ill that it's okay to be ourselves.. Strike "as if". I can't help being creeped-out...a lot.
 
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Alan43  • 2 months ago 




Yes! So glad to see my ELCA Lutherans are now at 73%, above the general population and most other Christians.
 
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Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




Yet fewer homos accept christians
 
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Nigel > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




I can tolerate their chosen disordered lifestyle. I just don't want it shoved in my face. What they do in their private church is fine. It is just inappropriate for it to displayed in public where children are present.
 
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Ed Burrow > Nigel  • 2 months ago 




I know right? every time i see them holding hands....disgust.
and to see that stuff on tv.. kissing, holding hands, even some sexual conduct/nudity..it's like come on...really?
I even have a co worker who has a picture of his "family" on his desk....it's gross. talk about shoving it in my face!
(i'm talking about straight couples.)
 
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John T > Nigel  • 2 months ago 




Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be
proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it
around... and PLEASE don't try to shove it down my child's throat.
(attribution unknown)
 
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Steve Teeter > John T  • 2 months ago 




Didn't that come from Downton Abbey?
 
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John T > Steve Teeter  • 2 months ago 




A bit of Google searching reveals that the Dowager Countess had a line saying basically the same quote (minus the shove it down my child's throat part) but I couldn't figure out if she said it first.
 
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oikos > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




I think because of the vitriol we see from the ones that are the public face of christianity. I used to just be an atheist and now I am also an anti theist.
 
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JesterRedPanda > oikos  • 2 months ago 




I agree with Oikos, ragnar. Thats the thing they (christians) don't seem to understand. I couldn't care less if my co-worker is christian. I begin to care when they start telling me that I'm going to hell every day i go to work. I would be just as un accepting if anyone of any religion took time from their day to try to bring me down. ((btw this was at a former work place, not where i work now, which is awesome))
 
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oikos > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




It is the NALTs who say nothing while their fellow christians dehumanize us. If you support us but say nothing to counter the hate, then I must assume that you agree with what is being said.
 
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JesterRedPanda > oikos  • 2 months ago 




I see where you're coming from, but the issue is that often times, silent onlookers just need to be talked to; helped to realize why what they are seeing is wrong and how they can help.
My own mother used to not support marriage equality (not out of religiousness, but because she just didn't understand all the rights we would be missing out on) Now she links gay rights news all the time on her facebook page.
 
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oikos > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




But she is your mom so that connection makes a difference. I went through the same with my mom. I have a friend, extremely religious, who tells me that most christians are supporters of gay people. I asked him why we never see any of those people counter demonstrating at the hater rallies and events or on tv? He couldn't answer.
 
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JesterRedPanda > oikos  • 2 months ago 




Fair point.
 
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chicago dyke > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




i would make it my goal in life to make that person quit. well, maybe if the job were good enough. evangelicals fear me, i like fucking with them. bring it on, jeebus! i enjoy watching your followers turn various shades of "stupid" and "embarrassed by ignorance of their own religion."
 
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JesterRedPanda > chicago dyke  • 2 months ago 




Oh agreed. I'm so armed to the teeth with logic and more knowledge of their own poorly written rag than they are that I secretly welcome any time I am approached by one of those nut jobs.
 It usually ends up with them looking confused, then either getting mad or bumbling off into the distance.
 
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Mark > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




unfortunately the acceptance level is about behavioral conditioning. Being told (or screamed at) that you are an abomination, going to hell, sick, perverted, forced reprogramming, and on and on for 20, 30, 40 years might well create the need for a protective 'shield' to minimize impact. Just turning the other cheek or hoping for a fair shake is long gone.....
We didn't start the fire....or the war.
 
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RaygunsGoZap > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




While the below is funny, it's also accurate. This is why I find them dangerous. :)
 
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Mark > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




After the way they've demonised us, you're damn right I don't. There are a few who've made known they don't support the far right but until more stand up and claim their religion back, I have no use for them -
 
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RealityBass > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




These numbers (Xtian acceptance of gays) have only gone up this high in the last five years. If they stay up, I guarantee you that you won't see negativity towards Xtians from gays, because there would be no reason for it.
 
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Blake Jordan > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




They have earned our anger and mistrust!
 
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lymis > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




Oh please.
 
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Friday > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




That'll be cause they still call us 'homos' and such.
There's a difference between a lot of Christians realizing that LGBT people actually aren't hurting anyone or anything and that they've treated us badly, ...and LGBT people still being treated badly by ...Christians lying about and harming us and inciting violence against us and trying to break up our families or our bodies or hurt us for their 'Jeezus' any chance they can.
I know full well that not all the Christians around are bigots, but when I see a cross or a Bible I don't assume I'm about to be dealt with in a friendly or trustworthy matter. That's cause Christians in general are more concerned with image therapy and playing 'good cop' while trying to convert others... Ignoring the fact that what still comes *out* of those churches is violence and hatred toward us, sanctified from the top. That's your own doing, even by inaction. After all, you're here sniping at us rather than actually making Christian treatment of us any *better,* aren't you?
Christians have a habit of claiming there's something further wrong with you if you don't 'forgive' them for abuses they're still inflicting. That's not really actually creating good feels.
 
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StSean > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




well, when satanists are the voice of the anti-theocratic movement in america....
 
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JesterRedPanda > StSean  • 2 months ago 




I quite support religious freedom. If a group of Christians want a nativity at the local city hall, then they'd best be prepared for a Satanist display, Wicca rituals, Flying spaghetti monster, church of bacon, etc etc etc. hehehe
 
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Friday > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




Wiccans are pretty tired of being lumped in with Satanists and jokes, actually. These stunts sometimes make important points, but there's other ways in which it's not doing minority faiths any good either.
 
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JesterRedPanda > Friday  • 2 months ago 




religion is religion. You may take offence if you wish, but none is explicitly intended when I say that I have no issue with lumping satanists, christians, muslims, wiccans, and all other religions together. They all have one thing in common. they believe fiction is fact in one way or another.
Yes wiccans are objectively less of a problem than christians, muslims, etc. but the fact remains that we will always be held back as a civilization and as a species until we can recognize all forms of fiction for what it is.
 
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Friday > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




Except of course that the Satanists and Pastafarians and other *atheistic parodies* aren't 'religion is religion.' Part of the point of *doing* it is *that* they're Atheists... You can't then turn around and claim "It's fair to say all religion is the same as our anti-religious parodies," either.
 
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JesterRedPanda > Friday  • 2 months ago 




The problem is this: What is different between satanism, christianity, pastafarianism, mormon, wiccian, muslim, etc?
How can you tell which one is a religion and which one isn't?
Is it because you heard of one before another?
Does age connotate 'real' religion? Scientology is a 'real' religion and is tax exempt for it.
How is it ridiculous to think a supernatural being made of pasta created the world 5000 years ago, yet still requiring deep respect to someone who thinks the world was created 6000 years ago by an 'all powerful god'?
Which one is 'correct'?
So tell me,
Why is pastafarianism an atheistic parody?
Why isn't Southern Baptism a catholic parody?
Why is Wiccia somehow worthy of kid gloves when their beliefs are just as nonsensical as the rest?
 
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Friday > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




Uh, cause those Atheist groups (And the Satanist groups in question ) you cited say that they aren't serious? No, it's not 'cause I heard of some first' ... It's cause of what I said was why not some attempt st sophistry: people doing things to make some point rather than cause it's their religion don't get to turn around and claim that's what everyone else is about. THat's simple falsehood.
 
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Alan43 > Ragnar Lothbrok  • 2 months ago 




LGBTs have had very bad experiences with religion. While I'm not happy with the anti-theism I see in the community, really it makes sense in context
 
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aar9n  • 2 months ago 




In 21 years, everyone coming our of Christian colleges will have grown up with marriage equality. All major denominations will have accepted it by then, and they will be telling people that "actually, Christians and Republicans were at the forefront of the gay rights movement. Havent you heard that Kim Davis was a democrat, and Clinton signed in DOMA and DADT?"
And I will punch those people in the face.
 
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skeptical_inquirer > aar9n  • 2 months ago 




I'm hoping that youtube or some other website has all those videos that prove those lies wrong in the future. We might have to save some videos to prove that no, GOP had presidential noms attending a shindig held by a preacher who wanted LGBT dead and the NALTs still voted GOP.
 
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delk  • 2 months ago 




Too bad the republican candidates for president still don't accept it.
 
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Friday > delk  • 2 months ago 




Can't help but noticed that the anti-LGBT ones seem to be a bit over-represented in that party, not to mention the government.
 
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Silver Badger > Friday  • 2 months ago 




You don't think that was an accident do you? Fortunately, we are evening that score.
 
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Friday > Silver Badger  • 2 months ago 




Well, of course, that's why they're screaming so loudly as if the reality weren't the opposite of what they... scream so loudly. :)
 
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bill@19D > delk  • 2 months ago 




I would not be surprised if this presidential cycle in which the GOP field is dominated by aggressively anti-gay candidates. It will still have anti-gay voices in the next one but I suspect that it shall be far more subdued then it is now. All the millennials will be of voting age then and the following generation just starting to hit voting age and that will be hard to ignore.
 
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S1AMER  • 2 months ago 




Jeez, even the Jehovah's Witnesses are starting to budge, just a bit. Maybe I should spend more time proselitizing back at them when they knock on my door?
 
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stuckinthewoods > S1AMER  • 2 months ago 




Wear far fewer clothes when next you answer. After I'd been initially polite JWs kept driving into the woods ignoring trespass. Then once I was surprised in very minimal dress, and in annoyance just answered the door... never since......they must have deemed me unlikely to be saved.
 
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Paul > S1AMER  • 2 months ago 




My family are firmly in the 84% who don't agree.
 
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Robert Conner  • 2 months ago 




Here's an example of why Christianity has to go. Away. Forever.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03...
Molested as a boy, then transferred to a Church-run mental hospital and castrated.
 
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coram nobis  • 2 months ago 




Accepting? In the outfits those people wear? Someone should tell the Archdiocese, before the fashion police do. Get thee behind me, satin!

  
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HomerTh  • 2 months ago 




Awww the people who believe in bullshit fairy tales think I should have civil rights!
 
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Captain Jack  • 2 months ago 




I actually don't care if they like me or not!
 
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Robert Conner  • 2 months ago 




Four reasons sanity could win:
(1) Progress is made a funeral at a time. Not even NYC has a temple dedicated to Zeus.
(2) An increasing number of people realize there is no basis, in fact or otherwise, for the Abrahamic religions and have simply left church behind. I've spent the last 15 years promoting that trend. Facts and rational argument are the killing fields of religious belief.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/125...
(3) Many who remain are recreational Christians who show up on special occasions or due to family/community connections. Once younger people move away from home or out of Utah, their commitment drops off.
(4) Christians and their Church are their own worst enemies. I've long believed that the Westboro Baptists have done as much for LGBT rights as any LGBT organization, particularly after the Westboro nuts starting picketing funerals of soldiers killed by IED's. For another example, see the remarkable movie Spotlight which perfectly captures how a heinous religious organization systematically betrayed a community. And then there's Maggie Gallagher whose face would make a dog eat grass.
 
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joe ho > Robert Conner  • 2 months ago 




anti-theists need to remain proud and loud to offset the constant barrage of faithey-ness that still floods american culture. in other parts of the industrialized west, the battle's pretty much already won.
 
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Oscarlating Wildely > joe ho  • 2 months ago 




"Not even NYC has a temple dedicated to Zeus."
Wouldn't count your chickens. I saw this guy last week on the downtown A going on about Zeus and lightning bolts and all sorts of shit. Of course, he then told me that his name was Marie Antoinette and he controlled the weather by power of mental telepathy. Difference is it's NYC, so it's just a typical day. Still, I'd rather have him than that asshole that lives in Saint Pats.
 
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joe ho > Oscarlating Wildely  • 2 months ago 




right wing nationalists in Greece have been reviving worship of the Homeric gods. it's better than the dead jew on a stick cult.
 
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Xtophe  • 2 months ago 




Is there a chart for "We'll never be so cruel, nasty and heartless toward good people ever again; can you find it in your hearts to ever forgive us; we promise to start listening, being cooperative and kind; and will you help us get honestly educated about human nature properly, so this terrible misunderstanding about LGBT men, women and children that we viciously and inhumanely promulgated and profited from, entirely at their expense, never happens again to anyone." What, too early?
 
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Hue-Man  • 2 months ago 




From Iceland.
"Zuism, a religion based around the Sumerian gods, has been established in Iceland as a platform to campaign for secular reforms."
"The Zuist religion however promises to redistribute "the government's annual financial support equally to all members of the congregation."
The organization say[s] that their "primary objective is that the government repeal any law that grants religious organizations privilege, financial or otherwise, above other organizations. Furthermore Zuists demand that the government's registry
of its citizens' religion will be abolished.""
http://www.secularism.org.uk/n...
 
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Mark Glenn  • 2 months ago 




I'm glad religion is a choice, no one has to be a Christian or a Muslim or a Pastafarian.
 
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Chucktech > Mark Glenn  • 2 months ago 




It's hardly a choice when you're brainwashed from birth.
 
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Silver Badger > Chucktech  • 2 months ago 




Even then the brainwashing only takes about half of the time.
 
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LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Maybe it's time for the gay community to start showing a little acceptance towards the Christian community too. You know that whole "room for everyone" thing.
 
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David L. Caster > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Sure, in proportion to how much the Christian community pulls it's nose out of politics and stops trying to make laws against the interests of the Gay community, among other things.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > David L. Caster  • 2 months ago 




see David, doesn't it feel good not to stereotype an entire segment of the population, to extend the hand of brotherhood and be open to other people's differences?........... oh wait, never mind
 
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David L. Caster > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Well, it did. I guess that mutual tolerance thing is still just out of reach and the term proportional means something else to some people.
In my experience, gay people are among the most live and let live people around. Let them and theirs alone and they return in kind, extend the hand of friendship to them and it is gladly taken.
Perhaps if Christianity didn't have a reputation for repression, its diversity and alleged tolerance might have shown trough a little sooner. Perhaps too were those that profess the faith to have chastened their own a bit more deliberately, the image of their entire community would have been improved.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > David L. Caster  • 2 months ago 




I know right.... we embrace everyone! Just ask our trans community, our bisexual community, our gay for pay community, our lesbians, nellies, drag queens, leather queens, community of faith members, obese, African-Americans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, basically anyone who isn't your "fits perfectly into who you want to relate to gay"
We are the best at embracing each other and the differences in our own community...... oh, wait..... never mind.
 
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David L. Caster > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




And there is often a lively debate and more than mild chastening of those that exhibit the variety of intolerance you are implying exists amongst sexual minorities. Perhaps I missed the news of the culture wars between them.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > David L. Caster  • 2 months ago 




implied. LOL...... that was cute how you did that David.
Just know, there are many in our own community that we exclude from our big rainbow colored umbrella because of differences.
We are great about criticizing others and feeling shunned by others, but we don't acknowledge that when we do it to our own that is a problem and just, if not more so, hurtful than when it is done by others. Maybe if our own community set a better example, we would find greater acceptance in the larger population.
 
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Silver Badger > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Gay people don't get along any better than heterosexual people. For that matter you Christers have killed more Christians than anyone. :-) AH... the scent of hypocrisy.
 
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Silver Badger > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Whenever we extend the hand of brotherhood to these deeply disturbed radical Christians, we always pull back a bloody stump.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > Silver Badger  • 2 months ago 




That may be YOUR experience, but it isn't the experience of everyone. I have always found I can find whatever it is I am looking for.
If you are looking for a Christian to hate and persecute you for being gay, you will certainly find it. HOWEVER, if you actually look for a Christian to love, accept and honor you..... it isn't that hard to find.
 
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jmax > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




"If you are looking for a Christian to hate and persecute you for being gay, you will certainly find it."
I didn't have to look. They are members of my own family.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > jmax  • 2 months ago 




JMax, I am sorry that is your truth, I really am and I can understand why you may hate Christians because of that. However, many of us have very different experiences and our truths should be respected as well. (Not saying you don't respect it but some of the comments here are so hate filled that they could easily be found on a KKK message board.)
 
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JesterRedPanda > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




-No one here has called for lynchings.
-No one here has claimed to have authority given to them purely due to how they were born or because of some supernatural being.
-No one here has made threats or burned pink triangles in the yards of straight or religious people.
We dont want to kill religious people. We want them to leave us alone.
I strongly rebuke your claim that some or even any at all of our comments could be found on a KKK message board.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > JesterRedPanda  • 2 months ago 




you are entitled to rebuke anything you want.... I am entitled to my opinion. The hate speech that is spewed on this thread does nothing to enhance the conversation.
 
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jmax > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




I don't hate Christians. My father and my brother are both deacons in their respective Baptist churches and I love them both - despite the fact that they think I'm a hell-bound child molester.
 
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Silver Badger > jmax  • 2 months ago 




Well, at least there is plenty of room in their hell for the judgmental.
 
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jmax > Silver Badger  • 2 months ago 




They aren't judging me, they are just trying to make sure I don't join them in hell : )
 
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Silver Badger > jmax  • 2 months ago 




Think again! :)
 
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jmax > Silver Badger  • 2 months ago 




Should have used an /s instead of a smiley. I was raised Baptist and when I hear supposedly good xtians judging others like my family does, I shake my head and laugh, knowing that if there was a hell they would be saving me a seat when they got there first.
 
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Silver Badger > jmax  • 2 months ago 




I'm in a REALLY bitchy mood today. Having the family from hell myself, I truly understand what you went through growing up.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > jmax  • 2 months ago 




I'm sorry if I implied something that wasn't right JMax. I am blessed to have a different experience, I hope you have found happiness and will continue to do so and that someday your family will realize what they are missing out on in your life. Happy Holidays!
 
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jmax > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




No offense taken. Happy Holidays to you too.
 
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Silver Badger > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




@LP: Ah, deflection! We aren't hating we are calling a spade a spade and acting accordingly. No More Political Correctness, remember? Now, don't you have a bridge to guard?
 
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LP - Hired Stud > Silver Badger  • 2 months ago 




No I don't work on bridges, but thanks for dismissing me like so many others in our community do when someone has a different opinion. Consider it..... point proven! Merry Christmas Silver Badger and thank you!
 
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Silver Badger > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Poor baby. My heart bleeds. Have a HAPPY HOLIDAY! (Never get into a nasty fight with an old queen.)
 
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Silver Badger > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




@LP: It isn't hard to find because it doesn't exist. i don't give a flying jump of anyone "loves and accepts and honors" me. Just leave me and mine alone. Or suffer the consequences.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > Silver Badger  • 2 months ago 




"suffer the consequences." WOW!
Now I completely understand. Thanks for the clearing that up for me. Have an awesome holiday!
 
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Silver Badger > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Yes, you do. Tolerate it, and have a happy holiday!
 
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Friday > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Uh, the fact is the 'gay community' never *attacks* 'The Christian community.' Those of us who aren't Christian ourselves ....actually don't "reject" people for being Christians, unless they're ...coming after or defaming *us.* (Or telling us to 'Accept Christ' regardless of how 'Christians' treat us or our own religious beliefs or whatever.) Most of the people we see every *day* are at least nominally-Christian, what do you think we do, live in a box?
 
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The Irish Atheist > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Or maybe it's time for the Christian community to understand that, as the historical and current oppressors and abusers of the LGBT community, we don't owe them shit.
We don't owe you forgiveness.
We don't owe you a place in our homes.
We don't owe you our good will.
We don't owe you a ticket in our parades.
We don't owe you affirmation on your media platforms.
We don't owe you our silence.
I do not want reconciliation between the Chtistian and LGBT communities. I want justice for decades of physical, spiritual, and verbal abuse. The Christian Church needs to learn that there are consequences for their actions and the queers aren't going to start rushing into the arms of their abusers after a slight change of heart.
We are not the dogs begging for crumbs like the Syrophoenician woman said to Christ. We're not going to be treated as such.
 
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Robert Conner > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Au contraire. It's time for society generally and religion's victims in particular to bulldoze this toxic nonsense into the pit of really really bad ideas. Start here:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/269...
Or perhaps you were unaware that Christianity has a 1700 year history of murder in the form of crusades, inquisitions, witch hunts, burning gays and heretics alive, pogroms, expulsions, conquests, to say nothing of colluding with virtually every dictator in the 20th century.
 
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LP - Hired Stud > Robert Conner  • 2 months ago 




thanks for your comment Robert, I understand your passion, I just frankly disagree with the "all Christians are bad and hate gay people" segment of the population.
 
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Robert Conner > LP - Hired Stud  • 2 months ago 




Sam Harris made the most revealing comment about religion that I read in 2015. I'll paraphrase it by saying that religious "moderates" are basically the tall grass the predators hide in.
We can start with the basics: the Abrahamic religions are fiction. God didn't create the world in six days, there was no Flood, no Adam and Eve, etc. On the best evidence, Jesus was an apocalyptic preacher like many others who established his bona fides by performing exorcisms.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/269...
The "Abrahamic" religions are delusions, but so widely shared that their complete nonsense is accepted as something that others must respect. However, seeded among those "peace loving," respectable people are a hard core of literalists who take the morally obscene founding texts of these "faiths" as applying word for word. They literally want the world, all humanity, enslaved to this Bronze Age bullshit. So while most Christians and Jews, and many Muslims, pick and choose which parts of the nonsense they believe, others want it all applied, letter by letter, rigorously, to all society. This totalitarian attitude is, in fact, baked into these religions, which is why it never goes away. (Matthew 5:18, for example.) Fanaticism is always the tip of the spear in religion.
 
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The Professor  • 2 months ago 




Sorry Rod Dreher and Ross Douthat. Guess you'll have to withdraw to that little Benedict Camp you keep threatening to build, and circle your wagons. Regular folk, even regular religious folk, just aren't buying your lies about us anymore.
 
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JT  • 2 months ago 




All the more reason to watch out for the Watchtower and spit in their faces when they show up at your door.
 
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oikos > JT  • 2 months ago 




I ask them for as many brochures as I can get and tell them: 'It makes great kindling to start the fire.'
 
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Ginger Snap > oikos  • 2 months ago 




Gotta stay warm and toasty.
 
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BrandySpears  • 2 months ago 




I'm still searching for a mosque within a 10k mile radius of Los Angeles with a lesbian imam performing same sex marriages.
 
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Edmund Allin > BrandySpears  • 2 months ago 




I agree, but see above. :p
 
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coram nobis  • 2 months ago 




Any stats on the Pastafarian faith? As far as I know, they only thing they have a problem with is the Boiardi heresy.
 
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Silver Badger > coram nobis  • 2 months ago 




Don't forget the Parmesan -vs- Romano controversy.
 
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coram nobis > Silver Badger  • 2 months ago 




Although you'll find adherents in both political parties, as a kind of biparmesan consensus. "In my Pasta's house there are many manicotti."
 
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Robert Conner > coram nobis  • 2 months ago 




Canned religion is particularly disgusting.
 
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coram nobis > Robert Conner  • 2 months ago 




Yes, and its sauce has the consistency of raw goo.
 
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Grafxbear  • 2 months ago 




Perhaps I shall accept Christians too, not sure about that yet.
 
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Rillion > Grafxbear  • 2 months ago 




I'm accepting of them as long as they aren't flaunting their lifestyle in public.
 
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Steverino  • 2 months ago 




And donations to anti-gay grifters are in inverse proportion to these graphics.
 
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bill@19D  • 2 months ago 




So a very expected trend. Support is rising in all sectors of society and that age driven trend is so strong that it even permeates into religious groups that are opposed to homosexuality. As those younger segments continue to grow older and begin to take more leadership roles that change will translate even more into changes in church positions.
The flip side of this is the anti-gays who have reacted to this by further circling the wagons to more absurd levels. I wrote a piece about this reaction here: http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.co...
 
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Oscarlating Wildely  • 2 months ago 




Of interesting read is the additional fact that the nones are growing, as we all knew we would: "The falloff in traditional religious beliefs and practices coincides
with changes in the religious composition of the U.S. public. A growing
share of Americans are religiously unaffiliated, including some who
self-identify as atheists or agnostics as well as many who describe
their religion as “nothing in particular.” Altogether, the religiously
unaffiliated (also called the “nones”) now account for 23% of the adult
population, up from 16% in 2007."
The number sky rockets with Millennials. Less than half note that religion is important to them at all. Yes, the Millennials will indeed make it right.
 
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Paul > Oscarlating Wildely  • 2 months ago 




What's also interesting is that there is also an increasing number of "Nones" in the older generations as well.
 
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Oscarlating Wildely > Paul  • 2 months ago 




Good catch, Paul. Now, is it that there's more or that they finally came out of the theistic closet as nones?
 
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Maybe a bit of both?
 
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Silver Badger > Sharon Salazar  • 2 months ago 




Flagged for the fifth time
 
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NancyP  • 2 months ago 




That's amazing - Lutheran-Missouri Synod over 50%.
 
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JCF  • 2 months ago 




We Piskies topped (!) the UCC! We're Number One!!!! [I note that the 83% of Episcopalian support for LGBT acceptance EQUALS that of the Religiously-Unaffiliated (all on average, of course)]
 
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Paul  • 2 months ago 




lol, The Episcopal Church beat the United Church of Christ.
 
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Guess  • 2 months ago 




When religious people legitimately "change", it will show in the kinds of people they promote as the face of their organizations and the kinds of people they promote to lead our secular communities, at all tiers of governance. Until then... *yawn*
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada  • 2 months ago 




Harvey Milk had it right, when people know us as their family, friends and neighbours, it truly does become more difficult to see us as abhorrent or deviant. That's not to say many still do think that way, but visibility has always been the best weapon in our arsenal against the haters.
 
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tomfromthenews  • 2 months ago 




Good to hear. But I don't really CARE if they accept me or not. And this has finally been the secret to my happiness.
 
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Ninja0980  • 2 months ago 




My parents are Catholic and have always supported my husband and I, as have most of my other Catholic friends.
There truly is a large disconnect between the powers that be and the rest of the people, there truly is.
 
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Mark Glenn  • 2 months ago 




Everyone knows Catholics are not Christians, the analysis must be flawed (says the TV ministers)... It like to see the Jewish, Muslim, and Eastern religion data.
 
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ChrisMorley > Mark Glenn  • 2 months ago 




You are unlikely to find any 'Jewish, Muslim, and Eastern religion data' because this is reporting the changing attitudes of various Christian denominations.
 
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radiofreerome > Mark Glenn  • 2 months ago 




The people your call Christians are heretics that the RCC has dealt with yet because kindling is expensive and there's a drought.
 
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Pierre  • 2 months ago 




But what percent of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster accept homosexuality?
 
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coram nobis > Pierre  • 2 months ago 




100% or so. Their faith makes room at the table, and there's no such thing as a last supper. "Hail Marinara, full of garlic, the Pasta is with thee."
 
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zhera > Pierre  • 2 months ago 




100%
 
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Dana Chilton  • 2 months ago 




Two of those churches really surprise me. The church I grew up in, the Churches of Christ, are only at 35%. There's a wide spectrum of belief in this church and while it's mostly rural southern there's a large urban sector that should have caused that number to grow more than 4%. It's biggest college, Pepperdine, is agnostic bordering on supportive of LGBT rights. The other is the Lutheran Church Missouri synod. This church is has a majority now supporting our community, but, the church is very very conservative... perhaps more conservative than CoC churches.
 
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KnownDonorDad > Dana Chilton  • 2 months ago 




The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod surprised me too, that's pretty striking. I also thought that the Southern Baptist Convention would be lower.
 
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James  • 2 months ago 




But what does Bill Donohue think?
Also, they say 76% of "non-Christian faiths" are accepting of homosexuality; I wonder how that breaks down. For example, I highly doubt the number is that high for Muslims.
 
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Silver Badger > James  • 2 months ago 




Bill Donohue think? Isn't that a conflict in term?
 
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Dana Chilton > James  • 2 months ago 




The report kinda breaks that down. In the US the majority non-christian faiths are not the socially conservative ones. They're Reformed and Conservative Jewish, Buddhist, Wiccan, non-fundamentalist Hindu
 
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Eddi Haskell  • 2 months ago 




One thing that is misleading here. The term "historically Black Protestant" makes it seem that Blacks do not support Marriage Equality as they should for a fellow Democratic voting group (LGBT people). Black evangelicals and "conservative Protestants" generally do not -- just like their white Southern Baptist and evangelical brethren don't. Black who are members of more liberal and mainstream Protestant denominations - and especially Episcopalian blacks-- probably do. The majority of Blacks in the USA who are Christians are members of more conservative Protestant groups. I feel this makes Black people seem like they are neutral on the LGBT issue, while the actual truth is more nuanced.
 
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Erp > Eddi Haskell  • 2 months ago 




"Historically Black Protestant" refers to the churches (AME, AME Zion, National Baptist, etc.) not the individuals. So Blacks in mainline Protestant denominations are not counted in that group. AME went from 54% to 61% and National Baptist Convention from 35% to 54% in the last 7 years (the latter btw was the biggest increase of any of the denominations Pew listed; they are also one of the larger denominations, 1.4% of the total population according to Pew, about the same size as the ELCA). However when looking at these figures especially for smaller groups, the margin of error can be quite large.
 
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Eddi Haskell > Erp  • 2 months ago 




Thanks Ep. I just think that these numbers did not reveal the entire story.
 
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Edmund Allin  • 2 months ago 




I thought the poll was "More accepting of same sex marriage."
The I realised, "More accepting of homosexuality in society."
Oh, wow! Long way to go.
 
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Bill  • 2 months ago 




Wow. Adult human beings getting better at accepting reality.
Alert the press.
 
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LovesIrony  • 2 months ago 




wow what a surge...right past the % that believe that the president was born in Hawaii.
 
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Blake Jordan  • 2 months ago 




How much of that "acceptance" translates to equal treatment under the law???
 
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Chucktech > Blake Jordan  • 2 months ago 




Thankfully, we don't need their grudging "acceptance" for that. The courts seem to be doing us right in that regard.
 
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Blake Jordan > Chucktech  • 2 months ago 




Marriage, yes...
But nothing in the more critical housing, employment and public accomadation protections...
 
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Silver Badger > Blake Jordan  • 2 months ago 




Lasting change takes time. There are a few methods which make dramatic examples of protest, but out of respect for JMG I won't list them.
 
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Gustav2  • 2 months ago 




but...but...but Christians ALL believe....
 
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GuestStop  • 2 months ago 




And, yet, my tolerance and acceptance of them has dropped significantly.
 
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“Ex-Gay” Torturers Find Haven In Israel
February 4, 2016 Hate Groups, Religion


Last last year the New Jersey ex-gay torture group JONAH was ordered to disband after losing the consumer fraud suit brought by the SPLC. Some of the “therapists” affiliated with JONAH are sending their referrals to Israel where, for now, the law cannot touch them. The Associated Press reports:

Israel’s Health Ministry advises against so-called “gay conversion” or “reparative” therapy, calling it scientifically dubious and potentially dangerous, but no law limits it. In Israel, practitioners say their services are in demand, mostly by Orthodox Jewish men trying to reduce their same-sex attractions so they can marry women and raise a traditional family according to their conservative religious values.

Clients also include Jewish teenagers from the U.S. and other countries who attend post-high school study programs at Orthodox seminaries in Israel. Half of all such students attend seminaries that require youth who admit to having homosexual feelings to see reparative therapy practitioners, according to the Yeshiva Inclusion Project, a group that counsels gay prospective students.

An estimated 20 to 30 licensed psychologists and social workers and 50 non-licensed therapists practice some form of conversion therapy in Israel, said Rabbi Ron Yosef of the Orthodox gay organization Hod, which calls for legislation against such therapy. Gays in Israel who contacted JONAH were referred to some of these therapists.

“I’m extremely concerned,” said Chaim Levin, a former client of JONAH in the U.S. and a plaintiff in the lawsuit against it in New Jersey. “It’s exporting hatred and junk science to Israel. People need to know.”
  


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Michael Rush  • 22 days ago 




Arthur Goldberg - As Executive Vice President and a major stockholder of Matthews & Wright Inc., a Wall Street investment bank he orchestrated a massive fraud from 1984 to 1986 in which the firm sold over $2 billion of fraudulent municipal bonds to several cities. The victims were mostly impoverished communities with large minority populations—such as the territory of Guam; East St. Louis, Illinois; East Chicago Heights, Illinois; Chester, Pennsylvania and Sac and Fox Reservation in Oklahoma. Goldberg and his associate, Frederick Mann, netted $11 million in unlawful profits from the scheme.
Goldberg was sentenced to 18 months in federal prison and five years' probation. He was also fined $400,000 (later reduced to $100,000 on appeal). In a separate action, the Securities and Exchange Commission banned Goldberg from the securities industry for life and ordered Matthews & Wright to permanently close its doors
 
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leo77 > Michael Rush  • 22 days ago 




Back when SPLC first launched their suit against JONAH, Maggie Gallagher was committing pixels to the case over at NRO and nattering on about religious rights and how her buddy Chuck Limandri was gonna show those SPLC lawyers a thing or two. She of course didn't mention that Arthur Goldberg was already a convicted con artist.
I did in the comments section. My comment was quickly deleted by whoever manages comments there. Mustn't let facts get in the way of good religious rights spin.
 
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Michael Rush > leo77  • 22 days ago 




Maggie The Dumpy Bigot

  
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barrixines > Michael Rush  • 22 days ago 




JONAH and the Whale.
 
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CCleverly > leo77  • 22 days ago 




Maggie, sister to Jabba the Hut.
 
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Gerry Fisher > leo77  • 21 days ago 




Such a paragon of morality, that Maggie. [cough, cough]
 
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Joseph Miceli > Michael Rush  • 22 days ago 




So he's a flim-flam man who simply changed venues to sell more snake oil.
 
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Gerry Fisher > Michael Rush  • 21 days ago 




A grifter gotta grift.
 
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JustDucky  • 22 days ago 




Y'know, it was before my time, but I've read that America used to be the leading exporter of goods instead of hate.
 
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studd55 > JustDucky  • 22 days ago 




America is a "service" economy now.
Hate served up globally.
 
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barrixines > JustDucky  • 22 days ago 




Indeed - am not sure why people are criticising Israel here when, if you read the article, it's very much about US initiatives in Israel.
 
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grada3784 > JustDucky  • 21 days ago 




That was until we exported most of our manufacturing.
 
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catherinecc > JustDucky  • 21 days ago 




This will just follow the example of the "troubled teen industry" (which itself was used to imprison and "cure" gay kids of their "behaviour" problems while separating their parents from loads of money)
You'll have kids handcuffed and hooded in the middle of the night, put on planes and flown there for this treatment.
Any jurisdiction with a lax policy on child abuse will end up a destination.
 
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Stogiebear  • 22 days ago 




Arthur Goldberg just won't let go of a profitable scam.
 
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JohnMyroro  • 22 days ago 




They'll pinkwash this by claiming that at least they don't throw us from buildings. "Sure, we allow the orthodox mullahs who run the country to promote homophobic charlatanism, but at least we don't let them kill you. Much."
 
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biki > JohnMyroro  • 22 days ago 




No, they force the LGBT kids into either rejecting their true selves to fit into a narrow view of "normality" or lose them to suicide.
 
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Silver Badger > biki  • 22 days ago 




A small percentage of them will escape and establish lives of their own. There is some hope.
 
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Tor > Silver Badger  • 22 days ago 




Hopefully, with the internet and ever expanding media, more and more of them will see hope outside and get away.
 
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catherinecc > Silver Badger  • 21 days ago 




Kids tried escaping from "troubled teen" camps too - they are virtual prisons, often intentionally in the middle of nowhere. The kids won't have a passport, effectively no consulate protection, etc, etc.
 
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biki > Silver Badger  • 22 days ago 




Yes, some will indeed escape, and in doing so will lose their entire family, forever. And this can be more than many people can cope with. There will be few happy endings in a narrow society which places religion over the needs of the people.
 
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catherinecc > biki  • 21 days ago 




To be pedantic, "fixing" trans kids is done by "legitimate" academics such as Dr. Ken Zucker and the rest of the Archives of Sexual Behaviour gang.
It's becoming less so, but by and large, "therapy" to prevent trans kids from turning out trans is widely used right now.
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada > JohnMyroro  • 22 days ago 




Seriously, I have my problems with Israel and openly state them rather regularly and forcibly, but please, can we dispense with this not-so-subtle appeasement by omission of the violence against gays in the Middle East. Every time I see "pinkwashing", I immediately have to question why those same people who use it never, or rarely, ever call out Palestine or other nations in the region for their part in killing LGBT's. I have yet to see anyone justify the silence on that challenge.
By the way, Mullah's are Islamic priests, not Jewish. Non-existent Christ, you can't even get your "holy men" straight.
 
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Gene > Jean-Marc in Canada  • 22 days ago 




just like the religionists Jean Marc, some of us have an "orthodoxy" of our own. you make few friends crossing it by pointing what you did out. I am also critical of Israel and there illegal occupation of the west bank, but, its utterly unfair to compare them to their Arab nation states. That's not excusing their transgressions against others (and gays) but, credit where its due. If you are gay and have to live anywhere in that region, pray its Israel. The "pinkwashers" seem indeed to always be so suspiciously quiet about Palestinian treatment of gays. I have gay Israeli and Palestinian friends. they live 30 miles apart. their stories of their lives as gay men might as well come from different planets (and the Israeli in question has less than supportive family. but none of them have threatened him, or kicked him out of the house, as the Palestianians have)
 
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Friday > Gene  • 22 days ago 




Yeah, but since those hardcore orthodox guys actually have power, one wonders how much they need to tolerate someone saying that means 'Bad touch and beat on substitute Mommy with tennis rackets.' Not that they're good guys but they don't need that particular BS either, when they have horrid methods one might take seriously, I should think.:)
 
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biki > Jean-Marc in Canada  • 22 days ago 




I assumed he was using the word Mullah as a derogatory term.
 
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I.Smith > JohnMyroro  • 21 days ago 




No they just stab innocent people in the street and do nothing to stop it even though they know it was going to happen.
 
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Gerry Fisher > JohnMyroro  • 21 days ago 




They don't let them kill you fast. They allow it over time.
 
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TampaDink  • 22 days ago 




Someone needs to wake up the GOP/tea people (as if that is even possible) and point out to them that Israel, their b.f.f. has socialized medicine...which includes abortions and same sex marriage.
 
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licuado de platano > TampaDink  • 22 days ago 




There is no same sex marriage at all in Israel. They merely accept same sex marriage licenses issued in other countries.
In fact there is no civil marriage at all in Israel. All marriage ceremonies most be conducted by one of the approved religious clergy. In other words, no marriage by judges, mayors, Reformed or Conservative Rabbis, etc.
 
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TampaDink > licuado de platano  • 22 days ago 




Deepest apologies for having posted false information.
 
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Hardley > TampaDink  • 22 days ago 




I kinda think that you could do with a comma after the abortions if you want to sell socialised medicine to the GOP :-)
 
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TampaDink > Hardley  • 22 days ago 




No, no, no. The GOP would never settle for a comma.
They require a period to pretend that abortion is legal. ☺☺☺
 
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Todd20036 > TampaDink  • 22 days ago 




Um, if you get a period, you don't need an abortion
 
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TampaDink > Todd20036  • 22 days ago 




That was the point that I attempted to make. Of course, we all know that in cases of legitimate rape, conception is impossible.
 
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Baby Dave  • 22 days ago 




Israel is a theocratic state, just like the Vatican or Saudi Arabia.
 
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safari2bongaloo > Baby Dave  • 22 days ago 




A theocratic state that must be destroyed by someone for American fundamentalists to feel all warm and squishy.
 
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Adam > Baby Dave  • 21 days ago 




You've clearly never been here and are incredibly ignorant.
 
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Baby Dave > Adam  • 21 days ago 




Really? Then explain how Israel can not be theocratic and yet have enshrined Judaism as the state religion. Any start with an official state religion is by definition theocratic in nature.
And as for ignorance, perhaps you should purchase a dictionary.
 
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Adam > Baby Dave  • 21 days ago 




Yes, Israel is a "Jewish state".
Greece is officialy Orthodox Christian.
Germany doesn't have separation of church and state.
Lots of "western" countries have freedom of religion (like Israel) but still have a "state religion".
Theocracy is a completely different concept, which is when the country is governed by the church - which is FAR from the case in Israel.
Israel has democratic elections and its parliament contains elected officials from all Israeli minorities and religions.
Typical ignorant american, thinking they know what's best for everyone else while actually understanding very little.
 
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Adam > Baby Dave  • 21 days ago 




"theocratic"
 
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Brian Moore  • 22 days ago 




And now a bunch of vulnerable gay Israeli teenagers are going to be victims to this charlatan and their parents, wanting their child to be "normal", will lose that child forever.
 
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licuado de platano > Brian Moore  • 21 days ago 




And American teenagers who get sent there for summer religious camp or a post-graduation year in a Yeshiva.
 
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Joseph Miceli  • 22 days ago 




It is very scary. Israel has enough problems without becoming the next Uganda. Sadly, theocratic states are prone to such atrocities.
 
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Reality.Bites > Joseph Miceli  • 22 days ago 




It's not as if almost every American state doesn't allow the exact same thing for minors and all of them, with the possible exception of New Jersey, allow it for adults.
 
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Joseph Miceli > Reality.Bites  • 21 days ago 




Yes, but I expect that from the right wing Republican dick heads that run our state governments and the obese white trash that votes them into office. I am surprised when other countries sink to our level.
 
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Johnny Wyeknot > Reality.Bites  • 22 days ago 




Not in DC, but then again we aren't a state. :-(
 
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Reality.Bites > Johnny Wyeknot  • 22 days ago 




There are a handful of jurisdictions (growing, to be sure) that prohibit it for minors from professional therapists. None prohibit it from clergy and none prohibit it for adults from anyone, although New Jersey's court ruling makes it a risky endeavour with adults.
 
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Johnny Wyeknot > Reality.Bites  • 22 days ago 




Harmful quackery with a big dose of grift.
 
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glass  • 22 days ago 




Religion is the cancer of our planet.
 
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Raising_Rlyeh  • 22 days ago 




"In Israel, practitioners say their services are in demand, mostly by Orthodox Jewish men trying to reduce their same-sex attractions so they can marry women and raise a traditional family according to their conservative religious values."
Yep, having large families that do nothing except study the Tanahk. Truly a wonderful goal.
 
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catherinecc > Raising_Rlyeh  • 21 days ago 




Statistically, that makes more gay kids. Perhaps that's for the best? Probably not though...
 
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grada3784 > Raising_Rlyeh  • 21 days ago 




Duggars of a different faith.
 
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Jonathan  • 22 days ago 




Exporting hatred to Israel? Like they don't already exhibit enough of that with the Palestinians
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada > Jonathan  • 22 days ago 




.....and vice versa.
That's a nice little dance around the whole truth you just did there.
 
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GuestStop  • 22 days ago 




Yet another reason to cut off financial support for the Israeli state. Israeli people, I love you, but your government is just awful. They make Bush look moderate. George W. Bush. Bomb them to democracy, chokes on a pretzel, laughs about his genocidal actions Bush.
I can't with this bullshit.
 
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Octavio  • 22 days ago 




Well, sure. This makes perfect sense. Why not? Yup. Go figure.
 
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DaveMiller135  • 22 days ago 




"In Israel, practitioners say their services are in demand, mostly by Orthodox Jewish men trying to reduce their same-sex attractions so they can marry women and raise a traditional family according to their conservative religious values."
Nice: lie to yourself and ruin at least 2 lives. Pathos or Bathos?
[Pathos, Bathos, Shalimar and Orangutan]
 
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Reality.Bites > DaveMiller135  • 22 days ago 




In all fairness, marrying a straight Orthodox Jewish man ruins your life just as much.
 
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Johnny Wyeknot  • 22 days ago 




Such a shame. Religion.
 
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hiker_sf  • 22 days ago 




Pinkwash that.
 
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bkmn  • 22 days ago 




They need to spend less time worrying about other peoples' crotches.
 
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Joseph Miceli > bkmn  • 22 days ago 




Why are those guys on the cover horny, or is it the road production of "Cats?"
 
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Michael Rush > Joseph Miceli  • 22 days ago 





  


 
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Joseph Miceli > Michael Rush  • 21 days ago 




Thank you, not only for that clip but the auto play immediately went to Julia Child cooking "sudden beef tartar" for David Letterman. Hilarious!
 
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Kenster999 > Joseph Miceli  • 22 days ago 




Could be "Cats"... just rubbing up against a scratching pole...
 
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Joe knows who I am. > bkmn  • 21 days ago 




Is there an app for that?
 
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JCF  • 22 days ago 




{Channeling myself watching "Rocky Horror", c. 1982}
Where's your f#cking neck???
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada > JCF  • 22 days ago 




snicker :)
 
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Duane Dimitrov  • 22 days ago 




Israel is such a fucked up country.
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada > Duane Dimitrov  • 22 days ago 




Really, compared to who? The U.S.? The country that, at this moment, has 9 (or is it 8) candidates running for president who openly, to one degree or another, advocate a return and/or establishment of a Christian theocracy? You mean that kind of fucked up?
As I have noted before, I will and have called out Israel on their shit treatment of Palestinians and other minorities, but to call them fucked up from the comfort of the American shores is just......wow.
 
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studd55 > Duane Dimitrov  • 22 days ago 




Almost as bad as the USA.
 
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Tempus Fuggit  • 22 days ago 




Israel! So that's where Goldberg's neck must've gone.
 
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Silver Badger  • 22 days ago 




These poor people will have to fight the same fight we are still fighting. We can offer them encouragement and perhaps teach them our coping and survival skills.
 
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Friday  • 22 days ago 




Israel, on the other hand is less worried about Jewish religious freedom being respected, since they obviously do, and hopefully have a harsh way with crackpots who think getting naked and hitting pillows is orthodox Judaism. :)
I mean, obviously, they don't mind stabbing people at Pride parades, but since they can do that, do they really need the embarrassing *lunacy* that JONAH was peddling?
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada  • 22 days ago 




I am very disappointed in Israel for allowing this nonsense to go on and hopefully it will be dealt with in due course. As for all the other nonsense being spouted, YES, Israel deserves criticism for it's pitiful treatment of Palestinians and the illegal west bank settlements; BUT again I must insist on honesty regarding all sides in the middle east as it pertains to LGBT and Human Rights in general. So far, I'm seeing a lot of blinders on people, from both sides of the debate........and frankly, it's annoying as fuck.
 
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Gerry Fisher  • 21 days ago 




"Let's take our act overseas" seems to be a theme with these haters and monsters. [grumble, grumble, grumble]
 
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Hard2find  • 22 days ago 




Israel Israel just another religion cohort, spreading lies of a FAKE god, no better than lying christ-stains and muslims
 
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Marky > Malissa Smith  • 21 days ago 




Lazy waste-of-flesh-who-depends-solely-on-accumulating-child-tax-benefits-stupid-strippy-hooker-forever-pat/maternal-robo-ads... Jail terms for unethical programmers, says this one. Don't spam me when I haven't had my coffee yet. It's a death wish.
 
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Tina CRACKA Vane  • 22 days ago 




Israel laughs at the crazy orthodox nuts ... why lbgt has more equal rights than anywhere in the middle east ... gay men and women (i believe) could join the military since the 60's. and transgenders could join since i believe 2011 ... wonder how the lbgt is doing in Palestine that the goof troops on here seem to adore ... try again
 
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Stev84 > Tina CRACKA Vane  • 22 days ago 




The Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox have all the power in Israel. Conservative Jews are barely considered real Jews there. Reform Jews? Don't even think about it.
 
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licuado de platano > Tina CRACKA Vane  • 21 days ago 




Your friends may laugh at them, but the crazy orthodox nuts are firmly in control of the current governing coalition. And the nuts are in positions of power like the Minister of Interior, Minister of Education, Minister of Religious Affairs and Minister of Justice.
 
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January 29, 2016 Religion


Christian Nightmares points us to this bit of “adorable brainwashing” in which kids sing about submitting to the church administration. In multiple languages! With helpful on-screen lyrics! There are dozens of similar clips recently posted to the YouTube channel of Inc Kids, which is the work of this group:


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Not At All Indoctrination: Catchy Kids Tune Demands “Always Submit To The Church Administration” [VIDEO]
January 29, 2016 Religion


Christian Nightmares points us to this bit of “adorable brainwashing” in which kids sing about submitting to the church administration. In multiple languages! With helpful on-screen lyrics! There are dozens of similar clips recently posted to the YouTube channel of Inc Kids, which is the work of this group:


The Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) is a Christian religion whose primary purpose is to worship the Almighty God based on His teachings as taught by the Lord Jesus Christ and as recorded in the Bible. The Church of Christ is a church for every one who will heed the call of God and embrace its faith — regardless of his or her nationality, cultural background, social standing, economic status, and educational attainment.


  


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Todd20036  • a month ago 




But remember folks, it's gay people who want to seduce children into an evil lifestyle.
 
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VodkaAndPolitics > Todd20036  • a month ago 




🎶🎶Always Submit to the Church Administration, Until he gets caught getting double penetration. Then he repents so he's not an abomination. Sing along with me.🎶🎶
 
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zhera > Todd20036  • a month ago 




Where do you think they got the idea of recruitment from? They've been doing it for millenia.
 
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ExGayTherapyKills > Todd20036  • a month ago 




The rich and powerful world bankers control the Christian religion and they want slaves who do what they want them to do. The rich and powerful also control governments and they keep the slaves in line by making sure they conform and obey what they want, be good slaves and make the rich and powerful more money. It is all about money, control and power, follow the money to the top and you will see the world bankers, about 10 world banking families who want to keep you down, stupid, in fear and under their control.
 
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Octavio  • a month ago 




On the topic of religions forcing your hand, when my mother died her mormon church waltzed in and took over making sure she was buried in the custom they knew in their hearts she wanted. We just had to pay for it. That was OK. She was a mormon and it was about the only thing that gave her a sense of stability considering how whacked out she was. However, when the funeral director (a relative) showed us the $8,000 church-approved coffin I dragged dad over to a nice $1,100 steel casket sprayed in real silver paint. My mother's ward was shocked and as the sweet spirits filed by her open casket they all remarked "How shameful! It's steel and not wood!" But my father was rather pleased that I'd saved him about $7,000 he didn't have to pay for -- or a headstone with an image of the SLC mormon temple on it. Yuck.
Then when my father died, who wasn't a mormon, the same churchy folks showed up and tried to highjacking dear old dad. I had a different mortuary pick up his remains and I made sure to pick out the same coffin, which had got up in price in three years by $100. But the funeral director turned out to be a mormon and assumed I wanted the standard mormon package with mormon mourners, a mormon bishop to preside over everything and mormon pall bearers. I said, "No. I have that taken care of." And then shit really hit the fan when I told him it would be a graveside ceremony without a viewing. The guy still held a viewing behind my back (something my father never wanted). Sweet spirits showed up two hours before we planted dad to file by at the funeral home and write stuff in a notebook. None of this was authorized. The mormons are WAY against graveside ceremonies. I thought it was because they're cheap -- which they are. But as mourners passed by dad's casket after the dedication of his grave I noticed there wasn't a customary little pile of dirt and a trowel for tossing in a token dust-to-dust memorial. So, I picked up a fistful of dirt under the fake grass covering what had been dug out for the grave and proceeded to toss it on the coffin. Much verbal pearl-clutching broke out and several men (whom I didn't know) tried to physically restrain me. It was if I had done the worst thing possible in front of all these strangers. That's when I was forcefully told, "WE DON'T DO THAT!" in the tone of an angry parent talking to a two year-old. Rather than completely lose my temper (which I would normally do) I announced in a loud voice that the ceremony was over. My father wasn't a mormon, never had been, and although mormons don't toss dirt onto coffins, The O'Campos do. Grabbed more dirt. Tossed it on coffin with a flourish. The mormons left quickly, leaving only us ungodly heathens and perverts to say a few words and comments in memory of my dad.
You can imagine how much fun I had getting lawyered up contesting all of the "add on" charges I had not authorized for dad's funeral. He would have been proud. I know he would have because he hated mormons. He also hated all of his whack job catlick relations on his side of the family. Good times. Good times. :-)
 
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David Milley > Octavio  • a month ago 




Nightmarish story -- but good on you for sticking to yer guns.
 
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coram nobis > David Milley  • a month ago 




Said what I wanted to say, and my compliments to Octavio.
 
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ZhyKitty > Octavio  • a month ago 




I just want to say how much I enjoyed reading this!
 
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Octavio > ZhyKitty  • a month ago 




Thanks. I didn't know I needed to dump it out until I saw the "Daddy must follow Jeebuzz" video. Sick.
 
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ZhyKitty > Octavio  • a month ago 




Oh, but I'm so glad you did "dump it out" because it was a fantastic read! I could happily sit and read stories from all of you guys' lives for days on end...especially irreverent stories like that one! lol
 
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abel > Octavio  • a month ago 




Bravo, Octavio! BRAVO!!!!!
 
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ZhyKitty > abel  • a month ago 




x2
 
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Reasoning101 > Octavio  • a month ago 




Viewing? As in, open casket? The concept is foreign to me, as it's strictly forbidden in Judaism, as is embalming.
 
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Octavio > Reasoning101  • a month ago 




Yeah. Imagine my chagrin when I sat mourning for seven days with my boyfriend when his brother died. The sitting . . . and sitting . . . and sitting and the talking and talking and the sitting . . . but the food was good. :-)
 
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NMNative > Octavio  • a month ago 




I had to google "sitting shiva" as I had no idea what it was or how to go about helping a friend who's wife passed.
 
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Octavio > NMNative  • a month ago 




And I still get it mixed up with the Hindu god Shiva, the destroyer of worlds.
 
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ZhyKitty > Reasoning101  • a month ago 




I learn something new every single time I come to JMG.
Thanks for this! (I had no idea that Jewish people don't lay out their dead for viewing. It's so common here, I just take it for granted that most people will have a viewing when they pass.)
 
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Frank Elliott > Octavio  • a month ago 




You are so much nicer than I am. I would've told them that I had no respect for their born yesterday saucer cult, and that I believed old time religion. I would've been started a phony invocation of Aztec gods and cut my finger to bleed a little on the coffin.
 
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DaddyRay  • a month ago 




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Treant > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




"Nope, because I'm already fucking Jesus' friend Rafael."
 
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Nic Peterson  > Treant  • a month ago 




Rafael tells me that Jesus is such a drama queen with all that walking on water and raising the dead. He doesn't mind the whole water into wine trick though.
 
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Paige Turner > Nic Peterson   • a month ago 




That Family is terrible. Have you heard about his murderous psychopathic Father?
 
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Lumpy Gaga > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




"No way. I hear he makes fissures of men."
 
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pickypecker > Lumpy Gaga  • a month ago 





  
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TuuxKabin > Lumpy Gaga  • a month ago 




The loaves and fissures.
 
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bkmn  • a month ago 




This is a much better approach to raising children.
 
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Oscarlating Wildely > bkmn  • a month ago 




And given a puppy... who just ate a bar of Ex-lax.
 
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watchthewingnuts  • a month ago 




I... I... I... just can't any more.
 
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Todd20036 > watchthewingnuts  • a month ago 




Chocolate helps.
 
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Bluto  • a month ago 




Kim Jung Un would be impressed.
 
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Steverino > Bluto  • a month ago 




As would the Washington Times.
 
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pickypecker  • a month ago 





  
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Nic Peterson  > pickypecker  • a month ago 




I lived that life. It sucked.
 
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ZhyKitty > Nic Peterson   • a month ago 




Me too, and yes, it sure did!
 
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ExGayTherapyKills > pickypecker  • a month ago 




Psychological child abuse
 
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Michael Rush  • a month ago 





  
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Todd20036 > Michael Rush  • a month ago 




Trump rally?
 
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Oscarlating Wildely > Todd20036  • a month ago 




Tomorrow belongs to me.
 
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ExGayTherapyKills > Michael Rush  • a month ago 




Hitler was Catholic.
 
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Michael Rush > ExGayTherapyKills  • a month ago 




My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. - Adolf Hitler
 
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John1429dotorg > Michael Rush  • 23 days ago 




Hitler was an admitted Roman Catholic.
 
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Mark  • a month ago 




Yep. That's the indoctrination they use so the little boys will always "submit to the church administration". And gees, look what happened.
 
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Cuberly > pickypecker  • a month ago 




Children have that built in, sometimes annoying, pre-wired curiosity to ASK QUESTIONS. They ask questions about the world around them, why would anyone work to stifle that.
Ask questions and mull the responses and evidence.
 
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Herald > Cuberly  • a month ago 




I asked questions, my parents consistently taught me to "Think for myself", and my good evangelical college taught me how to really think and research out an issue. Though I am not sure they are totally pleased with the way all those lessons took so well.
 
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Cuberly > Herald  • a month ago 




Ha! Well, they shouldn't be too surprised with the result then ;) right?
The current polarization isn't necessarily a new thing but it is something that's louder. Thank you internet....lol...
To be honest my friends that have kids, dang, I was never that sharp. I was a bookworm at a very early age, but I wasn't as intellectually grounded as their kids are.
 
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ticklemepink > pickypecker  • a month ago 




Haven't you heard? The feminists dropped Dawkins after it was found he was a misogynist.
 
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RainbowPhoenix  • a month ago 




You're supposed to submit to God, not the church administration.
 
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Dot Beech > RainbowPhoenix  • a month ago 




No, you're supposed to use the brain Miss God gave you and think for yourself.
 
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RainbowPhoenix > Dot Beech  • a month ago 




You know what I mean. Most cults aren't this honest.
 
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ZhyKitty > RainbowPhoenix  • a month ago 




My Southern Baptist family would be clutching their pearls over the notion that Salvation could be achieved via ANYTHING other than submitting one's self to Christ as one's personal lord and savior.
This church is blaspheming big time with this song....I think I'll stir the pot a bit and send this video to my little sister, whose husband is a preacher.
 
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Dramphooey > RainbowPhoenix  • a month ago 




At least the church administration exists.
 
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DaddyRay > RainbowPhoenix  • a month ago 




Who created this message, Priests?
 
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D. J. > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




Popes, who passed it on???
 
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studd55 > RainbowPhoenix  • a month ago 




No, submit to Kim Davis.
 
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Wynter Marie Starr  • a month ago 




Yes, kids, make sure you submit and when you are molested or raped, don't tell because you are requited to submit.
I brought my kids up with the motto, "Question Authority." And never to submit if something seems or feels wrong.
 
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Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




What the hell !!!! 30 minutes later and it's still in my freaking head! Must.... submit....
 
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Todd Allis > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na, Leader!

  


 
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Phil in Colorado > Todd Allis  • a month ago 




Perfect!
 
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DaddyRay > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




Let me put on my leathers
 
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Phil in Colorado > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




I'll make sure to dig out my collar by the time you get to Colorado :)
 
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Treant > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




I got a couple things you can submit to if you want.
 
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Phil in Colorado > Treant  • a month ago 




I'm sure your 'things' are much better than anything the church administration could give me.... ;)
 
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Treant > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




That'a no brainer. My services take way more than an hour, are never boring, and you always leave smiling ear to ear (and usually with gifts of homemade soap and small electronics I cobbled together out of bits and pieces).
I do enjoy a good donation, but most guys don't have any objection to that sort of donating...
 
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Phil in Colorado > Treant  • a month ago 




I doubt they would ever object.... :)
 
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Treant > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




Most object so little they give multiple donations!
Men really are such giving creatures. It's heart-warming.
 
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Lumpy Gaga > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




They seem to be giving out CMV. No, thanks!
 
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BearEyes > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




ear-worm
 
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Phil in Colorado > BearEyes  • a month ago 




An ear worm would be preferable. lol
 
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Merv99 > Phil in Colorado  • a month ago 




Good news: there's a Karaoke version!

  


 
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marti386 > studd55  • a month ago 




Wait, kids are driving now?
 
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Robert Conner  • a month ago 




Yep, Christianity is totalitarian to the core. They want to control the baby making parts so they can then control the child from womb to tomb. Control the mind, the body, the wallet and purse, the vote, everything.
 
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Tor  • a month ago 




Submit to the church administration - not to god - to the administration. At least they are more honest about it.
 
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studd55 > Tor  • a month ago 




Because
"For they were placed by Lord God to lead this nation"
The song says so!
So that covers that!
 
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Tor > studd55  • a month ago 




Not to mention the path to Salvation!
 
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Friday > fuzzybits  • a month ago 




Who's the were-frog lady? That's cute. :)
 
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fuzzybits > Friday  • a month ago 




Not sure. Just some craziness I found on the interwebs.
 
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rabbit_ears > Friday  • a month ago 




It looks like a gameshow gone horribly, horribly WRONG.
 
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Gigi  • a month ago 




What cracks me up about these fundamentalists is that they believe that their bible is "God-breathed" and inerrant. Every word is 100% true. Yet the bibles that they read and believe are translations of translations. There are no original texts, so no one knows for sure what the originals texts said. Praise Jesus!
 
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Rebecca Gardner > Gigi  • a month ago 




I could never understand how "The King James Bible" is the word of God. No, it says it right in the title, it's the words of King James.
Then again logic must be abandoned for one to believe a religion.
 
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perversatile > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




Ask people ''who was King James?" the next time you need a laugh.
With the caveat, if you value your sanity, don't ask my 14yr old cousin Shelley*
''Umm, he umm, he was that guy that killed that other guy who was trying to kill Baby Jesus. So he killed that guy and the people were real happy, and they made him the king, and he wrote the bible, and he was a very good king."
* the same child at age 6, communicating with the precision
 of what must have been drilled indoctrination,
 "God doesn't love gay people.
 Being gay is a sin, and you don't go to heaven".
 
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TuuxKabin > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




As well as abandoning all hope.
 
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zhera > Gigi  • a month ago 




If the bible is the word of God, and God and Jesus are the same, how come Jesus didn't write the bible himself?
 
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William > zhera  • a month ago 




Most fundamentalist churches use much more recent translations. The KJV uses all that flowery prose. Also, translations done in the last 50 or so years use the word "homosexual". That word didn't exist when King James was gaying it up around London.
Here's this article from the interweb.
The word "homosexual" didn't appear in English Bibles until 1946https://carm.org/word-homosexu...
 
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Gigi > zhera  • a month ago 




Apparently they/he dictated it to the authors of the bible, the way a boss dictates to his secretary. And Christians aren't under the old law any more, but the 10 commandments still totally matter as do the passages that condemn homosexuality. God hates that. Yuck.
 
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Steverino > Gigi  • a month ago 




They can think that all they want, but in reality it is clear that what they really believe is "inerrant" is their own contemporary fundamentalist reading / interpretation of it. And what makes this doctrine essentially meaningless is their cherry-picking, ignorance of even a working knowledge of the history and cultures that produced it, including politics, language, idioms, figures of speech, hyperbole, etc.
 
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GC > Gigi  • a month ago 




An apropos parable by the Rev. James Huber: Kissing Hank's Asshttp://www.jhuger.com/kissing-...

"Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."
"Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"
"If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the shit out of you."
"What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"
"Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town.
He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million
dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass." [...]
(Apparently, nobody has actually seen or spoken to Hank lately, but years ago he did dictate a letter to Karl, outlining several "commandments", including "Use alcohol in moderation", "Hank dictated this list Himself", "Don't use alcohol", and "Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.")
 
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TexasBoy > Gigi  • a month ago 




Because the book itself claims to be the real and true word of their deity...of course, one could add that line to any book. For all we know Alice in Wonderland or The Wizard of Oz could be the real and true "Word of God"....just print it in the book. Of course, the Battlestar Galicatica opening maybe just as true...
"There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans; that they may have been the architects of the Great Pyramids or the lost civilizations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens... "
 
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Michael Smith  • a month ago 




Churches have been doing stuff like this for decades. The only difference is that we have the Internet to spread it and mock them for it.
 
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Acronym Jim  • a month ago 




SUBMIT WHAT!!!??? My Sunday School book report? My permission slip for the Creation Museum field trip? The signed response form from my parents confirming that they agree they are required to give 10 percent of their money to the church?
Signed: Former childhood church-goer who remembers the confusion caused by these kinds of admonitions.
 
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rabbit_ears  • a month ago 




OBEY!
 
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RainbowPhoenix > rabbit_ears  • a month ago 




Glory to the hypnotoad....
 
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marti386 > RainbowPhoenix  • a month ago 




I for one welcome our warty Overlords.
 
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Oscarlating Wildely  • a month ago 




Viddy well, little brother! Viddy well!
  
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marti386 > Oscarlating Wildely  • a month ago 




Steaky-wakes and eggy-weggs for everyone!! :P
 
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Rebecca Gardner > marti386  • a month ago 




Then a bit of the 'ol In-Out In-Out.
 
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marti386 > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




Maybe they need a bit of the old ultraviolence? :P
 
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Bad Tom > marti386  • a month ago 




As Beethoven's Ninth plays.
 
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rabbit_ears > marti386  • a month ago 




And the vital part of any nutritious breakfast
 
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Bluto > pickypecker  • a month ago 




I wonder if the guy wearing the giant hockey puck is Canadian.
 
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peacfulseas inWA > Bluto  • a month ago 




and then there is this...
 
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Todd20036 > peacfulseas inWA  • a month ago 




And bad science will fly you into Mars.
Lets make sure we don't mix metrics with standard English measurements, people.
 
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Rebecca Gardner > Todd20036  • a month ago 




Can you also please tell Harley-Davidson to do the same thing on their motorcycle. To work on the same brake caliber requires both english and metric sockets.
I love Harleys but WTF!!! It's the same part and you need a 10mm 12-pt socket and and 1/4" 12-pt socket to work on the same fucking part?!?!?!?!!?? Someone should be fired over that.
 
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Rebecca Gardner > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




OMG! Leave it to the Dyke to talk about working on motorcycles. My whole post is one gigantic stereotype.
 
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peacfulseas inWA > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




Works for me.
 
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Rebecca Gardner > Bluto  • a month ago 




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Rebecca Gardner > Bluto  • a month ago 




I always got a kick out of the Cube hat.
 
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Bluto > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




Is he worshiping Rubik's cube or the Borg Queen?
 
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chicago dyke > Bluto  • a month ago 




it should be a fashion magazine. "Today in Holy Hats." i confess i'd buy an issue or two.
 
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Oscarlating Wildely > pickypecker  • a month ago 




But again I have to note to my atheist brethren and sistren: We will *never* rise to cult status until we get a funny hat and odd clothes! Surely, someone can come up with something!
 
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pickypecker > Oscarlating Wildely  • a month ago 





  
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Oscarlating Wildely > pickypecker  • a month ago 




.... I'm not sure that I could pull that off....
 
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Todd20036 > Oscarlating Wildely  • a month ago 




I think I could, but my legs are waxed and my body is clean shaven.
Never did it because I'm afraid I might pull it off too well.
 
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Tor > Oscarlating Wildely  • a month ago 




I just bought a cute fake-fur hat!
 
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That Guy  • a month ago 




This is some Poe's Law shit right here.
 
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TexasBoy  • a month ago 




Alter boys have been submitting to priests for ages. All churches are the same. Full of hidden child abuse in the name of their deity.
 
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DrRobY  • a month ago 




Now Fatherland, Fatherland, show us the sign
Your children have waited to see
The morning will come
When the world is mine
Tomorrow belongs to me
Tomorrow belongs to me
Tomorrow belongs to me
Tomorrow belongs to me
 
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Dot Beech  • a month ago 




You just know this is the sort of upbringing Rafael Cruz provided his sick and twisted son.
 
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Michael Rush  • a month ago 




If you really believe in God you can cross the
highway by yourself and never get hurt !
 
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chicago dyke > Michael Rush  • a month ago 




DINGDINGDING!!!11!
sorry folks, but the babysitter in me is *enraged* by shit like this, and Michael just expressed why.
fine. you want to teach your kids to be dumb, intolerant, and superstitious? i guess the law says i can't stop you. but i am telling you this is exactly right. today, you teach your kids about flying unicorns in heaven that jeebus rides, and how much they all love you and blah blah and miracles are real Santa Clause!
and then, when they really, really want to do something they know they've been told not to do, they just Trust the Power of Prayer! and drown or get run over or die drinking blue stuff cause jeebus protects the little children playing dare me games.
ach, i really wish people could understand this. "where do serial killers and rapists and nutjobs come from?" well, this kind of shit doesn't help make fewer of those, either. religion: making Darwin Award winners and sociopaths since forever. /sorry for the rant
 
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DaddyRay  • a month ago 




Creepy - those kids have had all of the life-force sucked right out of them
 
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Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




I copied my comment before they delete it.
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




I suspect mine won't last either.......
 
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Cuberly > Jean-Marc in Canada  • a month ago 




Perfect response.
 
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perversatile > Jean-Marc in Canada  • a month ago 




11:45 PM comment section closed and blank.
 Still taking "Down Votes"!!!!!!!!
 
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Todd20036 > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




I always thought Jesus was more a lich than a zombie.
 
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perversatile > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




I think I just fell in love with you a little bit! xoxo
 
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Bob Black  • a month ago 




Please Please Please....don't confuse this with the UNITED Church of Christ, the most liberal, gay affirming Christian denomination in the world and the church home to a number of JMG readers.
 
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Tempus Fuggit > Bob Black  • a month ago 




You're asking us to remember that Golden Retriever shit is slightly less odiferous than German Shepherd shit.
 
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Bob Black > Tempus Fuggit  • 23 days ago 




Atheists and Vegans....you never have to worry about finding them, they always make their presence known.
 
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DN > Bob Black  • 20 days ago 




awww Bob Black is whining about atheists again. Color me shocked!
 
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Tempus Fuggit > Bob Black  • 23 days ago 




Mm. Not at all like religionists, eh?
 
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Bob Black > Tempus Fuggit  • 23 days ago 




You can't tell me a damn thing about how my religion differs from that of the Fundamentalist Christians you despise. You are talking out of your ass and trying to appear intellectual. A common trait among to day's anti-theists. I hope it makes you feel smart to generalize.
 
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Tempus Fuggit > Bob Black  • 23 days ago 




You're guessing—incorrectly—that I object to (you say "despise") specific religions and their adherents. You're also kind of making a spectacle of yourself with your frothing tantrum, but if you're OK with that and it makes your day go better, I'll leave you to it.
 
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Baby Dave  • a month ago 




Theists are taught from birth they must imitate god. This leads to a sense that they, or at least their leaders, have become god, while nonbelievers never could.
Therefore, those with the greatest sense of humility are not the faithful, but the faithless. When you acknowledge there are no gods, you are no longer prey to either the thought that you are god, or that some leader is god. The only thing you are left with is the knowledge that both are human, all too human.
When you understand there is no afterlife, your only choice is to create heaven on Earth. Thus the greatest of Earth's stewards are not those who believe they are charged with that responsibility by biblical mandate, rather, it is those for whom there is no false belief that life ca be wasted on needless suffering with the hope of a better world to come
 
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coram nobis > Baby Dave  • a month ago 




The ancient Poets animated all sensible objects with Gods or Geniuses, calling them by the names and adorning them with the properties of woods, rivers, mountains, lakes, cities, nations, and whatever their enlarged & numerous senses could percieve.
And particularly they studied the genius of each city & country, placing it under its mental deity;
Till a system was formed, which some took advantage of & enslav'd the vulgar by attempting to realize or abstract the mental deities from their objects: thus began Priesthood;
Choosing forms of worship from poetic tales.
And at length they pronounc'd that the Gods had order'd such things.
Thus men forgot that All deities reside in the human breast.
-- William Blake, "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell"
 
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Friday > Baby Dave  • a month ago 




Why do you keep generalizing accusations about 'believing in Gods' to specific things about followers of a very particular one?
Most of the stuff you say is actually irrelevant to ...nearly all other deities and religions in history. Never mind meaning 'faithlessness' somehow forces people to 'Create Heaven on Earth.' ....Cause that ain't got much of a track record either.
Kind of like when Christians were giving me a hard time about Pagan vets being allowed our own religious services or even the basic dignity of Pagan symbols on grave markers, armchair 'Christian soldiers' that said, "What could you people possibly bring to defending our country without our God?" My quip was, "Never having to regret having but one life to give for my country." :)
Basically by your logic, it seems that whether you expect to be beamed off to a Christian Heaven, Hell, or an Atheist oblivion, even enlightened self interest might be with those who fully expect to be *back* to live in the consequences. :)
 
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TheManicMechanic  • a month ago 




Disgusting child abuse. Period.
 
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WhoDat  • a month ago 




If it was "Always submit to the Imam..." the network news would be playing it on loop.
 
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bkmn  • a month ago 




Or in the case of fundie families - "Always submit to your brother's fingers"
 
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anne marie in philly  • a month ago 




yeah right; think for yourself and tell the "church administration" to suck a big bag o diseased donkey dicks!
 
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GuestStop  • a month ago 




"Don't tell mom and dad what preacher says and does. It's a secret! Jesus loves you, but not as much as pastor does!"
 
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D. J.  • a month ago 




Run children, run! Save yourselves!
 
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biki  • a month ago 




Well, finally a religion that is honest about what they are about. No more of that foo-fa-role about god this and his son that. Nope, just straight up submit to your church admin, and hand over all your monies.
 
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David Milley > biki  • a month ago 




Yep, that's pretty much the stance of the Church of Christ. We had one of 'em near my house when I was a kid. Very cultic, and not shy about trying to recruit children riding their bicycles through the parking lot. For some reason, they gave up on me after their first attempt ...
What's fun is trying to explain that my preacher Dad's denomination -- United Church of Christ -- is at the other end of the political and moral spectrum. They're the ones who sued _for_ marriage equality in North Carolina on religious grounds.
My experiences with UCC are why I don't write off Xtianity altogether, although haven't believed a word of that nonsense since the age of seven. Bad as Xtianity is, there are occasionally good people who believe that stuff, and use their belief to do good works.
But they're rare, I'll admit.
 
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biki > David Milley  • a month ago 




It seems to me that in the past few decades churches have veered away from doing good works, helping the poor and coming together to help when there is a natural disaster. Do you agree?
 
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David Milley > biki  • a month ago 




Did they ever, really? </snark>
I've long thought that most religions appropriate the good works of the virtuous among their ranks as propaganda for achieving political ends. And I think this has always been true, of all religions -- religious doctrine is simply codification of the will to dominate.
That said, I agree with you -- over the past three or four decades, most Xtian sects seem to have dropped the pretense of working for the common good. Instead, the selfish ideals of the "prosperity gospel" seem to have taken over.
I blame Reagan.
 
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biki > David Milley  • a month ago 




I HATE and DESPISE the so called "prosperity gospel"!!!
What happened to the verse about camels having an easier time getting thru the eye of a needle than does a rich man? What happened to being humble and meek and laying aside things of the world of man to inherit the kingdom of god later?
I'm exhausted by the hate and greed churches spew out. The time of religion has passed its useful point. We are no longer unlearned children in the dawn of man, afraid of eclipses and what lurks in the dark.
 
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freehit > biki  • a month ago 




I had one believer try to convince me that your points didn't apply to them because of reasons. I'd like to point out that the temptations of Christ during the 40 days in the desert are the very things this "gospel" points out as features to strive for, instead of the damnation of the devil.
 
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Troy Gilbert  • a month ago 




"For they were placed by Lord God to lead His nation..."
According to who?
Oh, that's right. According to them.
 
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Ninja0980  • a month ago 




Isn't it the evil gays who want to brainwash children?
 
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biki > Ninja0980  • a month ago 




Oh but we do! We carry the seeds of sedition by telling children to think for themselves. To use tools of logic and scientific knowledge to make decisions based on facts not myths. See how bad we are?
 
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Friday > Ninja0980  • a month ago 




Christians *project.* They think 'sin' is a transferrable commodity in the cosmos or something.
 
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Dean Cameron  • a month ago 




I see a world... it's a Small World... where all the children must sing and dance for Jesus through all Eternity!

  


 
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pickypecker > Dean Cameron  • a month ago 




GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
 
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rabbit_ears > pickypecker  • a month ago 




Earworms galore here!
 
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peacfulseas inWA > pickypecker  • a month ago 




Crap I didn't click on it and still have that running in the background. Maybe a trip over to Fux news will wash it from my brain.
 
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Jmdintpa  • a month ago 




i dont know what kind of church they are but if there like the hispanic pentacostals .... lawd they crazy. they as bad if not worse than southern baptist.
 
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pch1013 > Jmdintpa  • a month ago 




It's a Filipino church.
 
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David Milley > pch1013  • a month ago 




This one is, but the "Churches of Christ" are (shudder) everywhere.
 
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BearEyes  • a month ago 




please drink this kool-aid
 
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peacfulseas inWA  • a month ago 




To this day I still find myself ordering,consider ordering fish on Fridays but no indoctrination,absolutely not. Once through conformation my mother let me go my own way.
 
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DaddyRay > peacfulseas inWA  • a month ago 




I cannot attend a funeral mass any more - hearing the people auto-respond with "lord hear our prayer" or "it is right to give him thanks and prays" just creeps the heck out of me.
 
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Friday > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




Oh, Gods, especially the latter. That line and the 'Crucify him' shit on Good Friday are why I knew what 'Orwellian' *felt* like before I even knew the word for it. :)
 
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David Milley > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




I've learned to have fun looking around the room to see who else is refusing to play along with the head bowing, eyes closed, mumbly incantation thing.
 
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Friday > David Milley  • a month ago 




In high school they made you make a show of if so I came up with other things to say. Ended up: "Out further, where art is heathen, hollowed tree my Dame. Why finger stung, my hill be some, Of dirt that I will be saving. Shiver with rage, flower gaily shed, and give just hours' press passes. And be more with prose, your best crass agendas, That bleed the sot in the same nation, slut, reliver medieval again." :)
 
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peacfulseas inWA > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




It's the incense that annoys me.Well truthfully most anything remotely connected to religion annoys the hell out of me.
 
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Gustav2 > DaddyRay  • a month ago 




Redrum, redrum, redrum...
 
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BearEyes > peacfulseas inWA  • a month ago 




yup and my hubby just glares at me reminding me I gave up the RCC 5 decades ago.
 
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peacfulseas inWA > BearEyes  • a month ago 




It happens less frequently the past few years since everyday is now Saturday for me but my partner chooses to work and the TGIF meme slips out every now and then.
 
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Yalma Cuder-Zicci  • a month ago 




Just heartbreaking.
 
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Donkey Hotay ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ  • a month ago 




Criminal Child Abuse
 
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Ninja0980  • a month ago 




I'm glad I got out of the church when I was still young.
 To this day, it is still among the best things I ever did.
 
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Bj Lincoln > Ninja0980  • a month ago 




It was Christmas and I was 16 when I told my mom I was not going to the midnight service just as she was ready to leave. I had spent hours and hours talking to Father D about religion and he gave me his blessing and suggestions on other religions to look into. He must have talked to my mom that night because she never said a word about church to me again. He was one of the best men I have ever known. May he rest in peace.
 
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TuuxKabin > Bj Lincoln  • a month ago 




How fortunate for you that Father D was enlightened and respected your curiosity. And your mother too.
 
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David Milley  • a month ago 




Anybody else thinking "Children of the Damned?"
 
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Robert Conner > David Milley  • a month ago 




Children of the Corn anyone?
 
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Octavio  • a month ago 




How could any of this possibly be bad? They've got balloons!
 
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5moreminutes*imtired  • a month ago 




I feel uncomfortable...
 
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Dicky  • a month ago 




Isn't Iglesia ni Cristo the one in the Philippines that's rocked by scandals recently? I think I remember seeing them on the Filipino news.
Their churches in the Philippines all look like that one in the video still. They're a concrete example of building something way different from the surrounding inhabitants.
 
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Disqusdmnj  • a month ago 




So glad my son is being raised with a vague understanding about religion, with no particular ties to it himself. One less thing to screw him up later in life.
 
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John  • a month ago 




Nice work Christians. Once more, you have shown that there is no low that is too low.
 
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WhoDat  • a month ago 




Second verse. Same as the first.
 
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Disqusdmnj > WhoDat  • a month ago 




Almost as bad as the Kars for Kids commercial (NYC area, if not national).
 
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TheManicMechanic > Disqusdmnj  • a month ago 




It's played here too. I stopped listening to that station.
 
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Disqusdmnj > TheManicMechanic  • a month ago 




I almost want to say I'll will them my estate if they just stopped that damn commercial.
 
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pickypecker > Disqusdmnj  • a month ago 




earworms....the worst.
 
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Disqusdmnj > pickypecker  • a month ago 




And creepy kids in the commercial... creepy multiplied.
 
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Rebecca Gardner > Disqusdmnj  • a month ago 




1 877 Kars for Kids
K A R S Kars for Kids
1 877 Kars for Kids
K A R S Kars for Kids
Donate your car today!
You are all welcome to hate me for the rest of the day for putting that song in your head.
 
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Disqusdmnj > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




"Hate" is such a strong word...
But so appropriate in this instance. I truly hate you. 😜
 
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Todd Allis > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




Ugh, I just heard that in the car on the way back from lunch.
 
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Toasterlad  • a month ago 




Jesus tap-dancing Christ.
And I get yelled at for being an outspoken atheist. What a sad, twisted world.
THIS is why religion has to be debunked, people. Or are a couple thousand raped kids a small price to pay for not challenging people's nonsensical beliefs?
 
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chicago dyke > Toasterlad  • a month ago 




i know, right? "you said angry things about religion on the interwebs! you killed Kenny!"
"you raped a bunch of kids and your friends covered it up? meh, let's not talk about that. you add morals and value to society!"
 
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douglas  • a month ago 




Even the catholics here in the Philippines (among the most batshit crazy catholics anywhere) look upon the INC as a dangerous cult.
 
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tcinsf  • a month ago 




That's beyond creepy.
 
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James Reyes  • a month ago 




This is from the Iglesia ni Cristo, a pretty big cult in the Philippines with branches all over the world. It's a restorationist-type cult, like the Mormons, Jehova's Witnesses and Adventists (Ben Carson's cult). All of their churches have the same creepy sanitized Gothic-like architecture that looks like a lot like Mormon temples.
 
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John Ruff  • a month ago 




It's the friendlier version of ISIS
 
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marti386  • a month ago 




In the end their God can't save them. There's a chicken-duck-woman thing waiting in the bushes for all of us:

  


 
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studd55 > marti386  • a month ago 




I refuse to listen as this is surely about ungodly muff eating!
 
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marti386 > studd55  • a month ago 




Wait, how did you know? :P
 
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studd55  • a month ago 




Does the typical kid at that age even know what the word Administration means?
 
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Bj Lincoln > studd55  • a month ago 




No. They do not understand most of what that song means. Even if someone explained it to them, the full understanding would not happen until they are 11 or 12. Not only do they not understand the words, they do not understand the concept. Christmas will always mean Santa first and Easter will always mean the Easter bunny. It can and will be very confusing until they are teens.
The whole thing is very sick.
 
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studd55 > Bj Lincoln  • a month ago 




I suspect the song is more directed as a warning to the adults in the church.
If any really exist beyond the millions suffering arrested development at the hands of the church.
 
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Bj Lincoln > studd55  • a month ago 




It is brainwashing at that age and does lead to arrested development. All they are are parrots at that age.
 
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Friday  • a month ago 




If you'll pardon my Bostonian, "This message brought to you by the Church of Jesus Christ, What The Fuck Is Going On Here?"
 
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Marky  • a month ago 




My face doesn't really know how to react to this video. I'm Disgonished.
 
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marti386  • a month ago 




Is this for fucking real?
 
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Rebecca Gardner > marti386  • a month ago 




Sadly,yes. It is very real.http://incmedia.org/
 
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Pollos Hermanos  • a month ago 




Suddenly this came to mind.

  


 
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Glen  • 23 days ago 




Wow. Frightening.
They forgot the following verse.
🎶🎶 Never question the church administration... They know what's best for you in every situation... Keep your mouth shut and listen to their indoctrination... Sing along with me 🎶🎶
 
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jonfromcalifornia  • a month ago 




Iglesia Ni Cristo is not really a "Christian church". This Filipino cult was founded by Felix Manalo who claims to be the new "messiah" and his family runs the cult. They reject the doctrine of the Trinity much like the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons and control all aspects of their followers' lives including what they can read and listen to or watch.
 
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Ginger Snap  • a month ago 




Fuck the church and all their bigoted cash flow.
 
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Ralphe  • a month ago 




Isn't this why Luther left the Catholic Church some 400 years ago? (date not exact)
 
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Taleisin > Ralphe  • a month ago 




Luther's biggest problem with the church then was the idea that the rich could pay their way out of sin. Much like the rich do today.
 
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Alex Sarmiento  • a month ago 




The INC is based in the Philippines. I should know, because I'm Filipino-American and many of my relatives belong to "Iglesia", as we call it. As a rule, they don't celebrate Christmas and they don't eat any cooked food with blood in it.
 
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bkmn  • a month ago 




"and if I die before I wake"....no wonder they are so fucked up.
 
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shivadog > bkmn  • a month ago 




That line and the next about "I pray the lord my soul to take" always creeped me out when I was a kid. I thought "what the fuck, I might die in my sleep? and then some supernatural entity is going to steal my soul" That caused a few sleepless nights.
 
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Lumpy Gaga > shivadog  • a month ago 




TBH, I was more scarred by seeing the movie "Willard" at too young an age.
I don't know how long it went on, but it became a nightly routine for me to hit the light switch and make a run for it to the bed because I was convinced the room would be swarming with rats in seconds.
 
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Treant > Lumpy Gaga  • a month ago 




Rats can climb your bedclothes just fine. That's all I'm saying, here. Well, except that they're also completely silent while doing it and don't need light to navigate.
 
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Lumpy Gaga > Treant  • a month ago 




Gee, why didn't I have you around as a child?
 
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Treant > Lumpy Gaga  • a month ago 




I haven't yet told my nieces the stories about cannibal parents, but it's on the docket.
 
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studd55 > Treant  • a month ago 




and how they hide under the bed and when you lower your feet to the floor to get up they grab you by the ankles and pull you under.
 
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shivadog > Lumpy Gaga  • a month ago 




It's probably a good thing that I never saw "Willard"
 
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Octavio > bkmn  • a month ago 




"And if I die before I wake, my jizz is still not yours to take." Ramen
 
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Randy503 > bkmn  • a month ago 




If you die, that pretty much precludes any further waking.
 
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TexasBoy  • a month ago 




Zombies for Christ!
 
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Rebecca Gardner > TexasBoy  • a month ago 




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Taleisin > Rebecca Gardner  • a month ago 




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Bryan  • a month ago 




Where are the Liberty Kids when you need them?
 
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Treant  • a month ago 




Personally, I prefer to Always Look on the Bright Side of Life.
 
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Gustav2  • a month ago 




They can't call themselves "Protestants" LOL
 
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Ragnar Lothbrok  • a month ago 




OT :
David Fry issues new demand from 4 left at refuge: pardons for all. Cites Bill Clinton pardon as justification
lol :) ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa
 
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John1429dotorg  • 25 days ago 




Ahh...prepping the children to readily receive the soon coming mark of the Roman Beast.
 
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GingaNoYuusha  • a month ago 




This isn't just an ordinary cult...
This is a cult that influences the government by the neck.
This is a cult that hates the Catholic Christian Church and other Christian sects.
This is a cult that hates atheists like all of us.
This is a cult that hates evolution and promotes creationism (
source: http://incmedia.org/new-scient... ).
This is a cult that manages the Philippine Arena, one of the largest indoor arenas in the world -- using money that was meant to future cult activities -- and said establishment is one of the causes of the internal struggle within the Manalo clan, who manages the said cult's activities. You can blame the third-gen executive minister, Eduardo V. Manalo for this.
This is the cult that is behind last year's National Heroe's Day traffic mess in August.
This is the cult having the mentality of exclusivity.
This is the Iglesia ni Cristo.
Here in the Philippines, we disgustingly call them "Iglesia ni Manalo" (Church of Manalo), due to cult of personality factor held by the Manalo clan for generations.
 
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Todd Allis  • a month ago 




I told my son about the video (which I hadn't watched yet, as I read this at work), and just now told him I'd finally watched it. "It's terrifying. Want the link? Or want to be able to sleep tonight?" "Sounds scary lol." I sent him the link.
 
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FancyThat  • a month ago 




I received extensive youth mind-adjustments at out Southern Baptist Church's summer youth indoctrination program .
They called it "Vacation Bible School."
There were tons of songs... Many pop up as earworms every now and then for no rhyme or reason. I'll find myself singing along until I realize what's coming out of my mouth. OMG!
Here's just a sample of some personal earworms. Yikes! now they're on YOUTUBE... with video!!! Holey MOLEY!!!
This one was a daily favorite -- where you'd stand in place and mimic flying and shooting and riding... oh... shooting and bombing the bad people for Jesus!!!
I'M IN THE LORD'S ARMY!
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/..." frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
And our daily Vacation Bible School theme song was interesting (some of the words have faded from memory, but here's the bulk:)
It started with a first verse about...

I like to go to Bible School

I like to sing their songs

It helps me feel the love of God

and feel like I belong....
(chorus)
Go to the Highways

Go to the Biways

Tell them that you're their
friend.

Tell the the church is open-

They're welcome to drop in!

Walk
just a little bit

Talk just a little bit

Throw in a smile or two...

but
bring them here tomorrow,

for the Lord is counting on you!
If you don't go to Bible School, 

You'll make the angels sad!

You'll never know what fun you missed,

and someday wish you had!
If you want to someday see the Lord,

You better start today...
The ones who miss our Bible School

are on the downward way!!
(we'd point our fingers to the ground on that last verse! - EVERYONE knew where they were going!)
(chorus)

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The songbook was a full folder of single-sided mimeographed pages with hundreds of similar songs. Many of them still seared into my tiny little brain.
Shirley, there must have been other JMG recruits packed in those summertime indoctrination pews?
 
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Taleisin  • a month ago 




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houstonray  • a month ago 




That is disturbing on many levels....wow...
 
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Steven Leahy  • a month ago 




LOL the two boys with the mini guitars remind me of those smiling North Korean guitar kids, except the Koreans have a lot more talent.

  


 
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Tempus Fuggit > Steven Leahy  • a month ago 




Whichever of them misses a note will be executed in front of the parents. Whichever of them is the barest hint off key or tempo will get only enough food to stay the barest hint above starvation for a month. Yep, creepy as all hell.
 
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Readen Reply  • a month ago 




I went with my BF to his fathers mormon funeral. The barely school age grandchildren sang some "hymn" that was just mormon indoctrination. "We'll all be together in heaven as long was follow the book" or some shit like that.
 
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Richard, another Canuck  • a month ago 




Comments are open over at the tube..just mentioning FYI.
 
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Friday  • a month ago 




OK, Republicans, you can have your fence now... If you'll shut up and go away. :)
 
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incmedia.org  • 24 days ago 




Even from a young age, we encourage the members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church of Christ) to share their faith. We're happy that your site has prompted a discussion and interest about religion, something that happens everyday all over the world. Here's a link to a BBC article talking about how we facilitate that very discussion: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-nor...
 
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GingaNoYuusha > incmedia.org  • 23 days ago 




Excuses.
 
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incmedia.org > GingaNoYuusha  • 16 days ago 




Were you able to watch the video? :)
 
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