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Porno Pete Is Pissed At Southern Baptist Head Albert Mohler For Admitting That Gays Exist [AUDIO]
October 16, 2015 Crackpots, Infighting Is Funny


Porno Pete is furious with Southern Baptist Seminary head Albert Mohler for denouncing ex-gay torture. Because in doing so, Mohler has conceded that homosexuality is an actual thing. Seriously. Miranda Blue has the quote at Right Wing Watch:

“Al Mohler has given credence to the idea of homosexual sexual orientation. And we know that sexual orientation is a political construct, it’s something that’s helped the homosexual movement advance. Because if people feel that people who struggle with homosexuality have a natural so-called orientation, they of course believe that they’re not really responsible for their behavior as much as they would be for any other sin. So, once again, we start treating this particular sin as a special sin needing all sorts of special terminology and semantics and caveats that are not biblical. And I think he’s starting to go down that route and it troubles me, because he’s probably regarded as the leading intellectual, one of them, in the evangelical Christian movement.”

  


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The Professor  • 4 months ago 




Oh for goodness sake, Pete you are completely obsessed with our sex lives. Just suck the damn dick already and move on.
 
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Gigi > The Professor  • 4 months ago 




He sucks it, feels guilty about sucking it, then gets a hate-on for The Gays who are able to live their lives out in the open. Loud and proud. If he wasn't such a repugnant little worm I might feel sorry for him.
 
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Reality.Bites > Gigi  • 4 months ago 




You'd feel guilty too if the dick you sucked was attached to Bill Whatcott.
 
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Gigi > Reality.Bites  • 4 months ago 




As a Canadian I'm doubly disgusted at the thought of that. Gross.
 
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Reality.Bites > Gigi  • 4 months ago 




Like Ted Cruz, he's not our problem anymore.
 
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bambinoitaliano > The Professor  • 4 months ago 




He needs to pick better dicks to suck. He seems to get that bitter taste after over and over again.
 
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Sk3ptic > The Professor  • 4 months ago 




The poor recipient. I wouldn't wish it on ANYONE to take that one for the team.
 
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Wynter Marie Starr  • 4 months ago 




Sexual orientation is far from a political construct. It is also far from a sin since it is innate. If these people want to live their lives according to their book of magic and mythology, they are free to do so. What they aren't free to do is to insist non believers adhere to their mythology.
They also fail to recognize that religion is a social construct. But, given their lack of self reflection and insight, it isn't all that surprising.
 
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clay > Wynter Marie Starr  • 4 months ago 




He's a Calvinist; he's okay with sin being innate in (some) people.
 
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Wynter Marie Starr > clay  • 4 months ago 




Well, I could think of many other things to call him other than a Calvinist. I really have no patience left for religious extremists, no matter their flavor of faith.
 
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Gustav2 > clay  • 4 months ago 




So he was predestined to be elected to his position?
 
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BobSF_94117 > Wynter Marie Starr  • 4 months ago 




Heliocentrism was a political construct at one point...
 
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Wynter Marie Starr > BobSF_94117  • 4 months ago 




I would call it ignorance more than a political construct. But, I can see where it could be considered a political construct. It's still different than innate qualities. If these people are calling it a political construct, it's because they are fearful of losing their privilege.
 
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Smokey > Wynter Marie Starr  • 4 months ago 




Actually, that was the RCC's problem with Galileo. They knew he was right, but his observations threatened the constructs (or theology if you like) they had erected around geocentrism.
 
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Amanda B. Rekendwith > Smokey  • 4 months ago 




Imagine THAT meeting: "The jig is up."
 
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Wynter Marie Starr > Smokey  • 4 months ago 




Yes, the people at the top are always n the know and very protective of their privilege. In that aspect, it can be considered a political construct coming from a social construct. The people they are fleecing are just ignorant, willfully or other wise.
 
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medaka > Wynter Marie Starr  • 4 months ago 




given their lack of self reflection and insight
Wynter, you are far too generous!
 
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Wynter Marie Starr > medaka  • 4 months ago 




LOL, I don't know if I should thank you or attack you. I am a generous person, however, even when dealing with the bigoted and the ignorant.
 
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RickCabral > Wynter Marie Starr  • 4 months ago 




You notice that SIN is always big with the pornmeister and his ilk. Where would these people be without it. (That's your sin, not theirs.)
 
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Wynter Marie Starr > RickCabral  • 4 months ago 




I can pretty much guarantee that my "sins" come nowhere close to those that spread hate and foster ignorance among the people they are fleecing. I'd go head to head with any one of these gutter rats any day of the week and come out cleaner in the sin department.
 
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Sk3ptic > RickCabral  • 4 months ago 




Any time someone brings "sin" into the discussion, I know I've won. It's as much an indicator as someone having a three-way conversation when only two are present.
 
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GC > Wynter Marie Starr  • 4 months ago 




Religion is a lifestyle choice. (Sometimes freely chosen, more often conditioned and indoctrinated.)
More on how we call can be manipulated: "Bending Truth"
  


 
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Wynter Marie Starr > GC  • 4 months ago 




That was extremely interesting and so true. Any one of us can be manipulated given the right circumstances and far too many kids are indoctrinated. Thanks for passing this on.
 
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canoebum  • 4 months ago 




Struggle? Pete, I don't have to struggle with my homosexuality. My gayness is a fucking fabulous show horse, trained, groomed and ready to wow the crowd.
 
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Gustav2 > canoebum  • 4 months ago 




I don't struggle with homosexuality, I do struggle with homophobes.
 
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Ed Burrow > Gustav2  • 4 months ago 




I haven't struggled with it since that first dick went..... Um... Well, u know...
 
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RoFaWh > Ed Burrow  • 4 months ago 




You too? The first time I "sinned" in the particular way we are discussing, it felt absolutely right for me to do so. And I still do it as often as I can (but given my advanced age and my embonpoint, that's not very often, alas; but I try).
 
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bambinoitaliano > canoebum  • 4 months ago 




It has always been his own struggle. He just wants everyone else suffer along with him.
 
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Keiffer > canoebum  • 4 months ago 




I used to struggle internally with my homosexuality. Now when I struggle it's because of the ropes and chains.
 
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Christopher Smith > canoebum  • 4 months ago 




I'm not even going to say it...:)
 
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Gustav2  • 4 months ago 




Good Gawd, if anyone has treated "this particular sin as a special sin," it is Porno Pete. His whole career is made on it and he is losing that career.
 
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medaka  • 4 months ago 




Oh Peter, you know that you're our special little pussyshitface here on JMG, right?
Just let us know how many times you hit the refresh button, nkay?
So that we can laugh at you again. And again.
 
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Reality.Bites > medaka  • 4 months ago 




Have we had an actual vote on that? How'd he win over Eugene Delgaudio and Bill Perdue?
 
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clay > Reality.Bites  • 4 months ago 




Petey follows Joe more closely. Eugene just has him on the e-mail dump list.
 
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greenmanTN > clay  • 4 months ago 




But Eugene will always hold a special place in my heart, if for no other reason than inventing that warehouse teeming with long haired men with earrings (shirtless and sweaty, no doubt) loading up trucks with gay propaganda! If I didn't know it would thrill him too much I'd turn that into the basis of a porn story (which it probably was in his head). I haven't settled on a title yet anyway since "It Was A Dark And Stormy Night" is already taken. "Pubic Advocate #1"?
 
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Reality.Bites > clay  • 4 months ago 




It's the hair. Eugene would follow Joe if he had long hair and an earring. (Apologies to Joe if he does indeed have an earring)
 
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Lakeviewbob  • 4 months ago 




So by his reasoning since the Bible never mentioned putting man on the moon, the invention of cars, elevator, coca cola and dildoes then they cannot exist? The bible doesn't mention Catholicism, Buddhism or Hinduism so they don't exist? What the fuck is wrong with this man.
 
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Sk3ptic > Lakeviewbob  • 4 months ago 




Hey! Stop muddying the water with logic!
 
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GC > Lakeviewbob  • 4 months ago 




The bible doesn't mention the internet. He should stop using email, websites, Twitter, etc. immediately.
[ETA] Rick Brentlinger points out that the bible also doesn't mention wedding rings, wedding gifts, adopting children, or having church weddings. I guess True Christians[tm] should abstain from those as well. http://www.gaychristian101.com...
 
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Ninja0980  • 4 months ago 




Pete and these other loonies truly believe they will go to hell if they don't fight us every waking minute.
 What a joke of a life they lead.
 
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vorpal > Ninja0980  • 4 months ago 




As god's special little Christ-warrior flowers, it's the only way they have of trying to prevent the spankings of god, i.e. floods, droughts, hurricanes, earthquakes, and other natural disasters... all while squawking about how homosexuality is unnatural.
If we, as per his statement, supposedly don't exist, then PP has nothing to worry about, does he? Does he also fight the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy?
 
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Bad Tom > vorpal  • 4 months ago 




He gets candy from the Easter Bunny, and coins under his pillow from the Tooth Fairy, so why would he object to that?
 
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ColdCountry > vorpal  • 4 months ago 




Do you think that if we let them go back to animal sacrifice they would leave the gays alone? Surely that would placate their vengeful god better than haranguing some minority - while insisting that minority didn't exist.
 
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DumbHairyApe > Ninja0980  • 4 months ago 




That's because porno Pete is a deeply, deeply closeted homosexual who hates his true self so much that he must attack it to prove to his god that he is worthy.
 
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RoFaWh > DumbHairyApe  • 4 months ago 




Some of the haters are sure to be closet cases and I must agree with you that LaBarbera is likely to be in that category.
Perkins? I doubt it; in fact, I sure hope not.
Staver? LIkely.
Barber? Another likely.
Brown? Not likely.
Gallagher? A contradiction of terms.
[etc]
 
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Todd20036 > Ninja0980  • 4 months ago 




What a joke of an afterlife they will have, assuming such exists.
 
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RoFaWh > Ninja0980  • 4 months ago 




Their behavior is so much knee-jerk reaction that I question whether they "believe" or "believe in" anything at all. They never think before engaging their vocal tracts and making fools of themselves once again. To me, belief includes a modicum of thought about the tenets you claim to hold ever so deeply and ever so sincerely, but it's clear that there's little or no thought in hate-brains.
 
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Skokieguy [Larry]  • 4 months ago 




Pete, is it time to stop worshiping a god who's so weak, he can't end homosexuality all on his own? If god can't do it, I doubt a Chicago suburban closet case is gonna' be very successful.
And don't forget, your god can't stop us, but us homos & lesbos apparently cause hurricanes, tornado, floods and droughts. Maybe its time you stopped attempting to fuck with us!
 
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McSwagg > Skokieguy [Larry]  • 4 months ago 




Hell, if we're the cause of all these Acts of God, maybe he should start worshiping us!
 
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Richard Rush  • 4 months ago 




Those who self-identify as the truest TrueChristians can't tolerate an ordinary TrueChristian giving the slightest nod to verified reality.
 
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ColdCountry > Richard Rush  • 4 months ago 




You're making my head hurt.
 
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Stogiebear  • 4 months ago 




Dear Porno, fret not. At the earliest convenient moment that weak tea comment of Mohler's will be repudiated by the Southern Baptists and he'll be replaced by someone who is still willing to call for our execution and all will be right in your little world. So, go back to your office, slip on a pair of assless chaps and your latest acquisition from Nipple Clamps R Us and get to researching furiously.
 
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Gustav2 > Stogiebear  • 4 months ago 




Reince Priebus in the Republican Autopsy Report, Pope What's-his-Jesuit and Albert Mohler have asked for the rhetorical stoning to stop, not a change in policy.
It is all about the language, not the policies. Relax Pete, they still hate us.
 
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Keppler2  • 4 months ago 




"Intellectual" and "evangelical" are oxy-morons.
 
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Sk3ptic > Keppler2  • 4 months ago 




Mutually exclusive.
 
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clay  • 4 months ago 




Oh, so Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld was a US politician? That's funny, I thought he was a doctor, like Melvin Sabshin, M.D., Richard Green, M.D., Judd Marmor, M.D., John Spiegel, M.D., Robert Spitzer, M.D., and Robert Cabaj, M.D.
Pete, it's not a disease, and you don't get to use medical treatments for what you think is a sin.
 
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SFBruce  • 4 months ago 




As crazy as this is, it makes some sense in Porno Pete land. Acknowledging we exist could mean the next step is acknowledging we're human. Pete can't let that happen.
 
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Sean  • 4 months ago 




Of course Peter LaBarbaric is violating his religious freedom.
P.S. LGBT occurs naturally in over 1500 species on this planet. Anti-LGBT barbarism (as Plato called anti-LGBT dross) only occurs in the most vile examples of one. Peter LaBarbaric is THE unnatural one.
 
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RoFaWh > Sean  • 4 months ago 




That poster inspires me to say that it's time to abandon those old stale terms like top, bottom, butch, nelly, etc, and replace them with references to gay animal species.
But the choice is so difficult! Am I a penguin? A giraffe? What?
 
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grada3784 > RoFaWh  • 4 months ago 




Depends on how tall you are. And whether you like fish.
 
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Sean > Sean  • 4 months ago 




P.S.2. As for "So, once again, we start treating this particular sin as a special sin needing all sorts of special terminology and semantics and caveats that are not biblical." What's that Peter LaBarbaric? I was distracted by your sins violating Matthew 6 & 7, Luke 6, Romans 13, Proverbs 6, Exodus 20 & a whole lot more condemning liars, those who are sodomites (one who is inhospitable), & discriminators to Hell & demanding everybody ignore & treat your sins as special sins needing all sorts of special terminology & semantics & caveats that are not biblical. Oh right; I'm forgetting that reich-wing "Christians" are allowed to violate the alleged "word" of their human made "God" whenever they want but everybody else must & will adhere to every single word of it how they (reich-wing "Christians") demand & command.
 
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vorpal  • 4 months ago 




Sounds like someone jizzed in PP's Starbucks latte...
 
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Ed Burrow > vorpal  • 4 months ago 




Sorry, that was me.
 
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David Walker > Ed Burrow  • 4 months ago 




Don't apologize, Ed. You're a very giving person and we appreciate that.
 
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RoFaWh > David Walker  • 4 months ago 




Very giving? When someone hooks Ed up to a milking machine, what do they set the collection volume to? One liter or ten?
 
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David Walker > RoFaWh  • 4 months ago 




Milking machine? Used to be (maybe still is) a device called Accu-Jack. The name alone makes it seem more applicable.
 
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Christopher Smith > David Walker  • 4 months ago 




OMG, David. the Flirtations saying 'I want an ACCU-JACK!'
 
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vorpal > Ed Burrow  • 4 months ago 




I wouldn't be apologizing if I were you. :-)
 
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chicago dyke  • 4 months ago 




i take comfort in the fact that almost no one outside this blog and a couple of churches even knows who he is. i appreciate Joe's efforts to track them; i'm too lazy to do it myself and it's important to stay informed. but the simple truth is, i could walk down my entire block and ask every one of my neighbors, the vast majority of whom are Christians and Muslims, and they couldn't tell you the first thing about him without googling.
hell, i can't even remember his last name right now. he'll always be 'porno pete' to me.
 
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Chris Baker > chicago dyke  • 4 months ago 




Yes, he is mostly known by the people that already agree with him, so he's just talking into an echo chamber.
 
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Gustav2 > chicago dyke  • 4 months ago 




In the pic above the two guys holding up the sign don't know who Porno Pete is!
;-)
 
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Porkie  • 4 months ago 




"once again, we start treating this particular sin as a special sin......"
Once again, It's you and your fundamentalist buddies who keep fixating on homosexuality, treating it as so different to any other "sin" mentioned in your taudry hand book; How about "Gluttony" then you fat fuck?
 
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BudClark  • 4 months ago 




I wasn't thinking about politics at age 4 when I figured out how to masturbate. I was just afraid I had BROKEN it (chuckle)!
 
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McSwagg > BudClark  • 4 months ago 




Right?!?!?! I knew that swelling was associated with injury, so what was I to think when my little fire hydrant turned into a telephone pole?
 
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grada3784 > BudClark  • 4 months ago 




But I bet you did call on God at the end of it.
 
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Matt in PDX  • 4 months ago 




Al Mohler, an intellectual??
 
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zhera  • 4 months ago 




Yo, Pete, I'm afraid you've misunderstood something. The bible is not a scientific document. Your 'sins' are not relevant in non-religious people's lives.
And even if we are to care about the bible, guess what: Baby Jeebuz never said anything about homosexuality.
 
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freehit > zhera  • 4 months ago 




Well, he did say that men should love one another, but they get all bent when we actually do.
 
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olandp  • 4 months ago 




"...because he’s probably regarded as the leading intellectual, one of them, in the evangelical Christian movement.”
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....
An intellectual in the evangelical movement, my sides! Tell me another one Porno Pete!
 
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anne marie in philly  • 4 months ago 




oh STFU, porno pete! idiot xstains like you exist too (unfortunately).
 
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Rrhain  • 4 months ago 




Peter LaBarbera has given credence to the idea of Christian religious beliefs. And we know that religious beliefs are a political construct, it's something that's helped the Christian movement advance. Because if people feel that people who struggle with Christianity have a natural, so-called "sincere religious belief," they of course believe that they're not really responsible for their behaviour as much as they would for any other belief. So, once again, we start treating this particular belief as a special belief needing all sorts of special terminology and semantics and caveats that are not rational. And, I think he's starting to go down that route and it troubles me, because he's probably regarded as one of the poorer voices, one of them, in the evangelical Christian movement.
Fixed that for you.
 
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GC  • 4 months ago 




"Sin" is imaginary.
“The very concept of sin comes from the Bible. Christianity offers to solve a problem of its own making! Would you be thankful to a person who cut you with a knife in order to sell you a bandage?”
― Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist
 
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David Walker  • 4 months ago 




Sign in back: "Welcome Peter." I think he does. He just won't admit it.
 
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goofy_joe  • 4 months ago 




Christians need to worry about their own lives and stay out of mine. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You're committing the sin of judgement, which I'm pretty sure your book says not to do. Also praying in public, and a score of other things the Bible says is wrong.
 
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RoFaWh > goofy_joe  • 4 months ago 




"Prudish busybodies" is the technical term for "christians".
 
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joe ho > goofy_joe  • 4 months ago 




unfortunately, christians are called by their holy book to go out and spread the good news to all nations--it's a religion of world conquest.
just one of the many things that are intrinsically disordered about christianity.
 
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millers3888  • 4 months ago 




The more he opens his mouth, the more irrelevant he becomes. Keep talking!
 
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Reality.Bites  • 4 months ago 




He's just upset because no one will concede he's an actual thing.
 
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Gigi  • 4 months ago 




Self-loathing closet case thy name is Porno Pete.
 
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JustSayin'  • 4 months ago 




Leading intellectual in the Evangelical Christian movement is an oxymoron
 
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Bill  • 4 months ago 




"he’s probably regarded as the leading intellectual, one of them, in the evangelical Christian movement.”
Intellectual. Evangelical. LOL.
 
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Octavio  • 4 months ago 




"I'm proud to be a happy homosexual. A happy homosexual is what I prefer to be...ee...eee.
For if I weren't a happy homosexual, El Squeeze would not be so a lovin' me...ee...eee!"
Stick painful things that make you bleed up yer bum, Porno Pete Barbara! And twist them!
 
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RealityBass  • 4 months ago 




Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.
 
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RoFaWh  • 4 months ago 




LaBarbera would not be a success as the proprietor of a mega-church. His quoted words do not constitute a good sermon.
Edit: I say that because LaBarbera's incessant yap about "sin" makes him sound more like a preacher man than a genuine, certified hater. Both categories are scum, of course, but still!
 
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scorpiomike  • 4 months ago 




"...he’s probably regarded as the leading intellectual, one of them, in the evangelical Christian movement.”
The brainiest of the Dumb Fucks! Pretty impressive!
 
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Jean-Marc in Canada  • 4 months ago 




M'eh, he was never truly relevant and this Johnny-come-lately whine is just confirmation of what was already known. Dismissed Bitch!!!
 
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Cosmo Tupper  • 4 months ago 




Being a hateful, bigoted, trashy *sshole is nothing to be proud of, limp-peter. After all, YOU chose to be THAT way!
 
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Marides48  • 4 months ago 




What PP meant is that fewer people are listening to him & it's time for PP to start searching for a real job.
 
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Paul  • 4 months ago 




Isn't this the guy that cuts and pastes gay hookup and cruising ads and puts them on his website to expose the "truth" about gay people?
 
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We all know ONLY one GIF is appropriate---

  
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BeccaM  • 4 months ago 




So, homophobic/homo-obsessed BamBam LaBarbera is such an anti-gay bigot he's decided there are wrong ways to be an anti-gay bigot.
 
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This Porno Christard got it 180 degrees wrong. You're not supposed to cure sins but to abstain from them because Jeebus.
 
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jomicur  • 4 months ago 




But it's quite all right for Christians to get a pass for their behavior, because all they have to do is claim they're "forgiven," right Pete? And you want that special right to be reserved exclusively for Christ-eaters. Have I got that right?
 
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I see him as more of an International Male chapist than a Calvinist.
 
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RoFaWh > but that's just me  • 4 months ago 




But Pete is on the hefty side and his thighs are likely too big for standard issue assless chaps. He'll have to have them custom made, not some dreck from IM.
 
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Actually, off the rack chaps don't fit most men. <g> speaking from some experience...
 
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KENTUCKY: Westboro Pickets “Adulterer” Kim Davis
October 19, 2015 Hate Groups, Infighting Is Funny, Religion


As they threatened several days ago, this morning Westboro Baptist is picketing “adulterer” Kim Davis outside the courthouse in Rowan County, Kentucky.

“That man that Kim Davis is living with, and calling her husband, IS NOT! Her husband is Dwain Wallace, who she married when she was 18-years-old,” read a press release from Westboro, according to WPMT-TV. “It does not matter how many years you pile on! It was adultery at the beginning, adultery in the middle and it is indeed adultery today!” Westboro began sending statements, tweets and images with messages aimed at Davis on Friday, proclaiming that “the duty of all mankind is to OBEY the laws of God and the laws of man” and claiming that Davis has broken her marriage vows. “Christianity is not a smorgasbord religion – you don’t pick what you like & leave the rest,” the group wrote in one message.
Yesterday Westboro picketed three Louisville churches as a ‘warm-up” to this morning’s protest.
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Dan  • 4 months ago 




Someone needs to film this and show it every christmas.
 
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Chicago joe > Dan  • 4 months ago 




😅 this x 1000
 
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KCMC > Dan  • 4 months ago 




with seasonal sing-a-long tunes.
Where is my XXL light-up tree skirt?
 
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Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




Oh, this just warms my heart.
Reap the hatred you have sown little Kimmie.
 
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Lakeviewbob > Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




Thank you for saving me from having to say the same thing.
 
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RickCabral > Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




Kim Davis makes me want to puke, but the godhatesfags outfit really amazes me with the way they feel it's their duty to plow into the private lives of others and make comments and judgments. I guess it couldn't happen to someone more deserving.
 
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Cuberly  • 4 months ago 




Ya kinda can't help but watch.

  
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oikos > Cuberly  • 4 months ago 




I am so stealing that graphic. :)
 
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Cuberly > oikos  • 4 months ago 




Have at it ;) It also works for anything GOP primary related...lol...
 
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barrixines  • 4 months ago 




Like watching King Kong v. Godzilla - you couldn't care less who wins just as long as they whomp each other over the head with a boulder every few minutes.
 
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Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




Why is the word "adulterer" in scare quotes?
Kim appears to have all her bonafides nicely lined up.
1. Thrice divorced.
2. Four times married.
3. Twins born out of wedlock.
4. Issues "adulterated" marriage licenses.
 
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GanymedeRenard > Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




Possibly because Davis, being a female, is an adulteress?
 
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Larry Ft Pierce > Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




"Adultrix"
 
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Marcella Cruser > Larry Ft Pierce  • 4 months ago 




Okay, that leads to places I never, ever want to imagine with Kim Davis LOL
 
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LarryChemEngr  • 4 months ago 




Just hilarious. What Karma.
 
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Todd20036 > LarryChemEngr  • 4 months ago 




Love how this woman is fat, which is clearly a stated no-no in the bible.
 
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D. J. > Todd20036  • 4 months ago 




Quimmie wears eyeglasses, too.
This may be one of those rare occasions when one must use the current vernacular of the area in order to be properly understood.: Quimmie is an over paid, wanton, adulterous, hypocritical home wrecking slut who needs to quit or do her job. All of her job.
 
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noni > LarryChemEngr  • 4 months ago 




Christians. You can "live" without them.
 
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Chris Baker > LarryChemEngr  • 4 months ago 




If you really look at WBC you will find out that the above is pretty much the truth. They seem to believe that they are the only true Christians in the world. Jerry Falwell is on their list of people being in hell, if that's any indication of how 'far out' there they are.
 
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pleasebereasonable > Chris Baker  • 4 months ago 




Not an indication at all.
 
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zhera  • 4 months ago 




“Christianity is not a smorgasbord religion – you don’t pick what you
like & leave the rest,” the group wrote in one message.

It's nice to hear christers say this, but I wonder whether WBC aren't doing a lillte pickin' and leavin' themselves. If you are to follow ALL the rules of the bible, there's not time to do much else. Women? Shut up and hide in your menstruation huts. Children? Shut up and take the rod like SkyDaddy commands. Men? Shut up and work to provide for your family. NO PRAYING IN PUBLIC. NO JUDGEMENT OF OTHERS.
Seems to me that WBC aren't following the bible after all...
 
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GayOldLady  • 4 months ago 




The best line: "Christianity is not a smorgasbord religion – you don’t pick what you like & leave the rest,”. If you're claiming to be a Christian, that line should say something to you. As for the rest of us, we don't really give a damn what your buybull says.
 
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Silver Badger > GayOldLady  • 4 months ago 




Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. The parts about help those less fortunate, feeding the hungry and clothing most of the naked (some people should really be required to be naked) and nursing the sick aren't too bad.
 
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Prion > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




That baby drowned long ago, is now rank and putrid and should once and for all be thrown out with the bath water. Compassion and empathy do not *require* religion in any way, shape or form.
 
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Silver Badger > Prion  • 4 months ago 




Absolutely correct. Religion is unnecessary. However, each has some good ideas which should not be ignored.
 
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GayOldLady > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




I think those "good ideas" predate Christianity and all other religions. They're called, human decency.
 
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Silver Badger > GayOldLady  • 4 months ago 




"human decency" evolves along with humans. Beating your children was considered normal and to be expected at one time. Death by stoning common place. I don't say religion is necessary, but it had it's place. If he did exist, Christ was considered to be a dangerous wild eyed liberal in his day. Still is in some circles. The wrong wing insists on devolving.
 
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Harley > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




For you ...
 
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Chucktech > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Let's see: Beating your children, death by stoning... Yup. Right there in the bible.
If religion causes you to be a decent person, then really, deep down inside, you're not a decent person.
 
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Silver Badger > Chucktech  • 4 months ago 




I agree for the most part. Look at the Hurricane Katrina incidents. Our civilization is really very shallow.
 
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GayOldLady > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




That's so true. If Jesus ever existed, there's no way he'd be accepted by the Christians of today.
 
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Eric in Oakland > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Yes, but they're not good just because they're in the Bible, and they won't cease to be good if we ignore that silly book. It isn't necessary to look in a book of myths to determine whether something is right or wrong.
 
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Ragnar Lothbrok > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Throw out the baby, but keep the bathwater, it has value.
Good for watering plants, for one thing.
 
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GayOldLady > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




I just wish they'd pay more attention to those "parts". :-)
 
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Silver Badger > GayOldLady  • 4 months ago 




Not only do they not pay attention, many ridicule those who do!
 
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biki > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Yes, but one would hope that we would think of doing those things without a bronze age myth book to tell us to do so.
 
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JCF > biki  • 4 months ago 




Human "thinking" is informed by EVERYTHING that came before: "bronze age myth books," as well as Einstein, as well as Dan Savage, as well as You & Me.
 
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Bj Lincoln  • 4 months ago 




I hope Kim is sad because they are calling her a bad christian and God doesn't like her.
One of my favorite parts of LGBT protests is looking for and finding them off to the side with all their pretty colors and hateful noise.
 
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rabbit_ears > Bj Lincoln  • 4 months ago 




Pot, meet kettle. Kettle this is pot. Shake handles!
 
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GayOldLady > Bj Lincoln  • 4 months ago 




I know!!!! The first time I saw them picketing a pride march was over 20 years ago. I think they're still using the same signs, well at least they're still using the same "god hates fags" signs.
 
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David Walker > GayOldLady  • 4 months ago 




They're laminated. Or plasti-coated. Or something.
 
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Michael Rush > Bj Lincoln  • 4 months ago 




Like the Duggars she'll just turn to the bible " harder than ever "
 
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Larry Ft Pierce  • 4 months ago 




What a DELICIOUS early Festivus gift!
 
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oikos > Larry Ft Pierce  • 4 months ago 




My pole is already erected........ oh wait you were talking about festivus. ;)
 
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Silver Badger > oikos  • 4 months ago 




Has it been oiled properly? You can't get that hand rubbed finish without a LOT of hand rubbing!
 
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oikos > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 





  
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bdsmjack > oikos  • 4 months ago 




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Piet > bdsmjack  • 4 months ago 




The vegan/vegetarian choice.
 
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Silver Badger > bdsmjack  • 4 months ago 




The nice thing about Crisco is it that takes a long time to dry out. Too bad it's oil based.
 
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oikos > bdsmjack  • 4 months ago 




Good for french fries but not as fond of it on my pole.
 
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Reality.Bites > oikos  • 4 months ago 




I feel the same about ketchup.
 
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bambinoitaliano > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




No worries, there's always this available at your local Walmart.
 
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clay > bambinoitaliano  • 4 months ago 




in the fire arms section.
 
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William > clay  • 4 months ago 




Fer reals!
Alabama Walmart accidentally stocks gun counter with lubehttp://mashable.com/2015/1...
 
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Chucktech > William  • 4 months ago 




"Hay-el, this crap don't work so good on muh guhn..."
 
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ColdCountry > William  • 4 months ago 




Too funny!!!
 
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Larry Ft Pierce > oikos  • 4 months ago 




I SOOOOOOOOOO love a god retort!
 
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Justin > Larry Ft Pierce  • 4 months ago 




It's time for the Airing of Grievances!
 
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medaka > oikos  • 4 months ago 




Oh, and nice antlers on Jeebus -- I hadn't noticed them before!
 
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oikos > medaka  • 4 months ago 




He's always horny. ;)
 
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oikos > Guest  • 4 months ago 




Good morning Treg. :)
 
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Silver Badger > oikos  • 4 months ago 




I'm sorry for being slow some mornings. Could you please explain your post?
 
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rabbit_ears > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Haven't plugged into your caffeine intake tube yet? :-)
 
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Silver Badger > rabbit_ears  • 4 months ago 




Time to stop fighting jet lag and call it a night. Like some fine wines, I don't travel well.
 
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Bj Lincoln > rabbit_ears  • 4 months ago 




I have a cold a tons to do so I am going to dial mine up.
 
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medaka > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Popcorn!
 
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Silver Badger > medaka  • 4 months ago 




Thank you. I wondering who was the rat and what was the soda drinker.
 
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oikos > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Angry Beavers.
 
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Silver Badger > oikos  • 4 months ago 




Again, thank you. I must adjust the strength of my morning coffee immediately.
 
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Todd20036 > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Just angry beavers eating popcorn and watching the infighting.
 
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Rebecca Gardner  • 4 months ago 




Do you believe in God?
No!
*boom* You're Dead!!!
Do you believe in God?
Yes!
Do you believe in MY God?
No!
*boom* You're Dead!!!
Ah, bronze age mythological story insanity infighting is fun.
 
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geoffalnutt  • 4 months ago 




The mentally ill picketing the mentally ill. How sad.
 
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billbear1961 > geoffalnutt  • 4 months ago 




You don't mean hilarious, Geoff?
:-)
 
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David Gervais > billbear1961  • 4 months ago 




I think geoffalnutt is right. Laughing at the mentally is is wrong.
Although...we could laugh and gloat now and then on Sunday go to one of those churches where you get forgiven your sins.
 
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Dagoril > billbear1961  • 4 months ago 




"Sad is happy for deep people." ;)
 
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Todd20036 > geoffalnutt  • 4 months ago 




As least the placards aren't misspelled.
 
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Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




So you suppose the gay agenda would allow us to send a sympathy card to Ms. Wallace? We do, after all, understand about being targeted by religious zealots.
 
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Dagoril > Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




Only in our capacity as Notaries. No sympathy from us as #BigGay Whatsits!
 
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dcurlee  • 4 months ago 




Where's Staver and Huckabee. Shouldn't they be out there defending her. Like I said before she is the albatross that will bring them down.
 
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BobSF_94117  • 4 months ago 




First time WBC hasn't faced counter-demonstrators, I would imagine.
 
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Reality.Bites > BobSF_94117  • 4 months ago 




Potentially first time they were cheered.
 
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Queequeg  • 4 months ago 




Normally I find Westboros antics offensive, but I rather enjoy this little demonstration.
 
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billbear1961 > Queequeg  • 4 months ago 




A guilty pleasure!
 
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MikeBx2  • 4 months ago 




If Davis is the firm believer she claims to be, I'd like to hear from her why the rules the Westboro clan is talking about don't apply to her. I'd also like to hear from Huckabee on the subject.
 
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billbear1961  • 4 months ago 




Rip one another to SHREDS, Christer hypocrites!
Let the stoning COMMENCE!
 
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Lightning Baltimore > Guest  • 4 months ago 




Unless she was exacting a fee, she's not a whore but, rather, a common trollop. ^_^
 
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Todd20036 > Guest  • 4 months ago 




Not true! She's a slut, she doesn't charge.
 
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Silver Badger  • 4 months ago 




So Kim Wallace is secretly a gay supporter. Wow, whodda thunk it. Out of respect for Ms. Wallace, we should forget that she ever went by the name of Davis.
 
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Houndentenor  • 4 months ago 




I hate to applaud WBC, but this is kind of hilarious.
 
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JustSayin'  • 4 months ago 




Is it wrong of me to say I enjoy the wbc picketing Davis?
 
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biki > JustSayin'  • 4 months ago 




If it is, I don't want to be right!
 
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billbear1961 > JustSayin'  • 4 months ago 




Nope.
 
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William  • 4 months ago 




"But - but, I hate fags too!"
 
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Cosmo Tupper  • 4 months ago 




Anyone notice they modified the "No H8" logo for their own use? Not very creative, are they, if they have to steal a logo that goes against their "message" and adulterate it to meet their own divisive and judgmental attitudes. Last time I checked, judgment is also a sin just like divorce, remarriage and same-sex relationships.
 
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olandp > Cosmo Tupper  • 4 months ago 




Honey, if they were creative they wouldn't need to do this same shtick over and over again.
 
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D. J.  • 4 months ago 




Is that Westboro in KY or NOM in DC?
 
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Silver Badger > D. J.  • 4 months ago 




Kinda looks like Liberty Counsel, too.
 
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abqdan  • 4 months ago 




Kimmy doesn't care. She'll no doubt have a lucrative book deal and speaking tour lined up by now. If you can make millions out of being a homophobe and a hypocrite, why would you worry about a crackpot church with 30-some members? It will just add another chapter to your book...
 
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2karmanot  • 4 months ago 




This calls for caramel corn!
 
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Michael Hampton  • 4 months ago 




So attention whores are trolling another attention whore for attention? Wow.
 
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ExGayTherapyKills  • 4 months ago 




That is what Christians look like with out their fake smiles.
 
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Ritorna Vincitor  • 4 months ago 




But... but.... Kim was washed clean of all her adulterous marriages when she re-converted to Christianity a few years ago. So that means she.... uh..... well.... she's not married at all.... so she's just.... uh.... you know.... living in.... well..... in sin. So.... uh.....
Never mind.
 
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Gil > Ritorna Vincitor  • 4 months ago 




So the Baptists aren't Christians ? She was a Baptist.
 
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Robert Conner  • 4 months ago 




A bitch slapping, hair pulling cat fight between fundie loons. Priceless.
 
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Octavio  • 4 months ago 




Snicker. Tee hee. Guffaw. Etc. :-)
 
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DaveMiller135  • 4 months ago 




Wait, wait, I've got one: How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin? Westboro, we'll go with you first, for 30 seconds.
 
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bkmn  • 4 months ago 




It would be funny if someone from WBC became her fifth hubby.
 
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JR  • 4 months ago 




meh. The Westboro Baptist Church hates everybody.
 
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LADY MABELINE  • 4 months ago 




If she was smart , she would go outside to get some fashion tips from them. Her husband, raggedy Andy could do the same.
 
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Roger Mann > LADY MABELINE  • 4 months ago 




I think you forgot the scare quotes on "husband".
 
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Baltimatt  • 4 months ago 




10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

I Corinthians 7:10-11
https://www.biblegateway.com/p...
It's pretty plain and simple in God's Holy and Inspired Word. No remarriage after divorce (and no divorce instituted by men). It doesn't matter if he beats you or runs around on you, you must remain single until either you or he die.
 
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Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




Apparently, the Westboro group has left the courthouse about 9AM on their way to Morehead State. Source: http://www.courier-journal.com
 
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Bj Lincoln > Dreaming Vertebrate  • 4 months ago 




Well that's wasn't long. The court house isn't open until then.
 
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Dreaming Vertebrate > Bj Lincoln  • 4 months ago 




I thought the courthouse opens at 8AM?
I saw that reported on the first day Kim returned from her jail cell.
 
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#InfightingIsFunny
 
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Irish856  • 4 months ago 




It would be nice if the GLBT's down there came out and block westboro... let the bitch know that eve though she is a hater... we still love her more then the westboro freak show
 
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Todd20036 > Irish856  • 4 months ago 




She wouldn't get it. SHe doesn't hate us. She loves us. She just doesn't think we should marry because that's a straight thing.
Forget her. Let her rot.
 
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William > Todd20036  • 4 months ago 




Better to stand on the sidelines and sell popcorn and refreshments.
 
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MBear > William  • 4 months ago 




and get everyone hyped up with buttons, stickers, and chants about who is more right - and if they end up fighting each other? take bets on who will win
 
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MBear > Irish856  • 4 months ago 




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Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




just in from the Twitters..
Shirley sings!

  

 
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oikos > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




My advice to her would be not to quit her dayjob.
 
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Sam_Handwich > oikos  • 4 months ago 




um, this is her day job :-/
 
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oikos > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




I know Mr Handwich. ;)
 
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Bj Lincoln > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




What a waste of a good Neil Diamond song.
 
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biki > Bj Lincoln  • 4 months ago 




Ok, you lost me at a good.
 
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jmax > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




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olandp > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




Shirley is a diva, remember this...

  


 
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TheManicMechanic  • 4 months ago 




I never thought WBC could have a demonstration where I was not entirely angered by it.
 
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James  • 4 months ago 




Well, this is one case where they're not wrong. She's trying to have her Christian cake and eat it too by claiming that she's not living in sin because her multiple divorces and (re)marriages happened before she converted. She's the one who chose the rules and claims to live with them.
 
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FuBear  • 4 months ago 




I wonder if Kim would be all right with the Westboro folks telling her that her marriage(s) are invalid and refusing to let her get married ever again (invalidating whats there of course).
After all, its just God's authority right?
 
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Marcella Cruser  • 4 months ago 




Where do these jackasses find the time to picket all over the place? Don't they work?I barely have time to pick up my dry cleaning.
 
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B Snow > Marcella Cruser  • 4 months ago 




I believe they make their money by provoking people into assaulting them at their demonstrations, then suing for damages. Several of them are lawyers.
But it does seem like they've had fewer demonstrations since the men booted the founder's daughter from a leadership role (because she's a woman, ya can't have one of them leading men fer cryin' out loud....). And counter-protesters are more careful to not touch them. So yeah, I don't know where they're getting their funding these days. It's probably drying up.
 
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Randy  • 4 months ago 




Maybe a new reality show: Battle of the Media Whores."
 
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Gianni > Randy  • 4 months ago 




I like the idea. Along with the above ladies, it will have to include the queen, Sarah Palin and definitely Michele Bachmann.
 
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Randy > Gianni  • 4 months ago 




Yes, and mud should definitely be involved.
 
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anne marie in philly  • 4 months ago 




bwhahahahahahaha!
 
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Jennifer Michaels  • 4 months ago 




"Christianity is not a smorgasbord religion - you don't pick what you like & leave the rest."
Does this mean Westboro has finally stoned Shirley Phelps-Roper to death for giving birth to her bastard-son Sam out of wedlock?
Maybe not a smorgasbord...perhaps more of a salad bar....
 
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olandp  • 4 months ago 




1 Timothy 2:12.
 
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Ninja0980  • 4 months ago 




Pass the popcorn, this is going to be fun to watch.
 
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bambinoitaliano  • 4 months ago 




Don't cha wish your gurl friend Kimmie rot like this! Don't cha? Don't cha?
 
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DaveMiller135  • 4 months ago 




"Find your own corner, bitch; we're already working the "holier than thou" one."
Not a direct quote.
 
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Sporkfighter  • 4 months ago 




Yawn. Tried to care, failed.
 
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Michael  • 4 months ago 




Counterfeit Christians won't like it, but the WBC is completely correct with the adultery thing. (Matthew 19:9)
 
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GuestStop  • 4 months ago 




A couple here, a couple at the local college. It's kinda sad, really. In the good old days, they woulda been in a big group, and every camera for a hundred miles on them. That would have made the cause shine today.
 
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This would be frightening for Halloween. Makeunder video at
http://garbear73.tumblr.com/po...
 
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GuestStop > rabbit_ears  • 4 months ago 




Looks like a rendering by the same people who made the Walls Fall Out video.
 
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Gianni > rabbit_ears  • 4 months ago 




Truly scary!
 
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Randy  • 4 months ago 




Just waiting for this to be blamed on "the gays" or Obama, or both.
 
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fandancy  • 4 months ago 




Idiots vs idiots.
 
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TexasBoy  • 4 months ago 




Look out Kim, there's a stone with your name on it. You know how fickle Christians can be.
 
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CB  • 4 months ago 




I... agree with... Westboro!?
What an odd sensation!
 
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skrekk  • 4 months ago 




This is ironic:
Phelps-Roper said Monday that divorce and remarriage is equivalent to living in adultery and that Davis’ first marriage is her only legitimate union. If Davis has truly come to Christ, she would divorce her current husband and put her marriages in the past, Phelps-Roper said.
In the meantime, she argued that Davis is obligated to follow the law and issue licenses because “God hates oath breakers just like he hates adultery and he hates same-sex marriage.” Phelps-Roper said Davis should instead protest same-sex marriage on her own time.
http://www.courier-journal.com...
 
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skrekk > Guest  • 4 months ago 




Many of the immediate Phelps family members are attorneys, so I guess it's not too surprising that they support the letter of the law even while opposing equal rights.
Maybe there should be a cage fight between Shirley Phelps-Roper and Mat Staver.
 
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Gianni > skrekk  • 4 months ago 




It is so interesting that our Kim defied God's law and ran with man's law that allows for all the marriages/divorces you want. Convenient.
 
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TexasBoy  • 4 months ago 




Next Up: The clown that is Kim Davis joins a traveling circus of sheeple fleecers with her "husband."
 
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Jan Wesselius  • 4 months ago 




The big question is what does Huckabee have to say about all this? He hates gays, and both Kim and WBC does too.
 
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Halloween_Jack  • 4 months ago 




So is their plan here to actually increase sympathy for Kimmy?
 
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Chucktech > Halloween_Jack  • 4 months ago 




No, their plan is to whore for attention.
 
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David Walker > Halloween_Jack  • 4 months ago 




A while back, when people finally stopped being scared of WBC and/or taking them seriously, gay organizations started using WBC as a fundraiser. The orgs would sell tickets for however long the buyer thought WBC would stay. Perhaps Miss Kim could get some of her hillbilly friends to start the same thing to raise those much-needed bucks for her.
 
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Westboro Sings Kentucky Woman For Kim Davis [VIDEO]
October 19, 2015 Hate Groups, Infightintg Is Funny


As I reported early this morning, Westboro Baptist is picketing “adulterer” Kim Davis today outside the Rowan County Courthouse. Watch below as they adapt the lyrics of Neil Diamond’s 1967 hit Kentucky Woman. “And God hates her. She knows God hates her. Kentucky woman, she’s constantly changin’ her name.”

  


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MacCrocodile  • 4 months ago 




They're not protesting Kim Davis. They're protesting not being looked at constantly.
 
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greenmanTN > MacCrocodile  • 4 months ago 




Yup. Methinks they're more than a little jealous of the attention she's gotten.
 
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Ian > greenmanTN  • 4 months ago 




And $$$.
 
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David Walker > Ian  • 4 months ago 




It is a little out of their standard mold. Usually they try to incite someone in the crowd to assault so the can sue the party. Income. I agree that they're trying to get a bit of the Miss Kim limelight.
 
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Michael Rush > David Walker  • 4 months ago 




Shirley Phelps-Roper is married to Brent D. Roper and they have 11 children , her oldest son was born out of wedlock.. Four of them, Joshua, Megan, Grace, and Zacharias have left the church and family.
 
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Stogiebear > Michael Rush  • 4 months ago 




So, not only is she a fornicatrix but she reared her children to be apostates. Good job, Shirley!
 
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olandp > Stogiebear  • 4 months ago 




1 Timothy 2:12
 
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Michael Rush > Stogiebear  • 4 months ago 




Next up Kim Davis will be flying to Topeka Kansas to boycott Shirley Phelps-Roper . Maybe the twins she had by her third husband while she was with her first husband will join her .
 
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Mike Rasor  • 4 months ago 




Can we stop calling these protests and just recognize that this is shitty performance art?
 
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Ginger Snap > Mike Rasor  • 4 months ago 




Love,love, love your suggestion.
 
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Judas Peckerwood  • 4 months ago 




Is it wrong to be enjoying this so much?
 
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greenmanTN > Judas Peckerwood  • 4 months ago 




If loving this is wrong I don't wanna be right!!!
(Which ironically is the same thing I say about homosexuality.)
 
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heimaey > Judas Peckerwood  • 4 months ago 




No but just bear in mind that when these people pay attention to you, that means you're likely getting or going to get more support pouring in from elsewhere.
 
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Octavio > Judas Peckerwood  • 4 months ago 




Only in the eyes of your person dog. He needs to go out for a walk. Otherwise, enjoy! Enjoy!
 
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Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




i hate to admit it, but Shirley has always amused me....it's performance art! she'd be lots more fun at a dinner party than Brian, Maggie, Matt, etc
 
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greenmanTN > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




Well yeah, but being more fun than Brian, Maggie, Matt etc. is setting the bar REALLY low. Botulism is more fun at a dinner party than they are!
 
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Sam_Handwich > greenmanTN  • 4 months ago 




maggie steals food from your plate :-\
 
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geoffalnutt > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




Maggie's favorite line: "Are you gonna eat that?"
 
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bkmn > geoffalnutt  • 4 months ago 




Only after she has already stabbed your food and is about to put it in her mouth.
 
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Ginger Snap > bkmn  • 4 months ago 




Shit! I replied the same before reading further down.
 
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BobSF_94117 > geoffalnutt  • 4 months ago 




You mean, "Were you going to eat that?".
 
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geoffalnutt > BobSF_94117  • 4 months ago 




Zing!!!
 
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Ginger Snap > geoffalnutt  • 4 months ago 




And she asks that as the fork has ready pierced the tasty morsel of food and moved it to her lips.
 
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Mister Don > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




She's fed under the table
 
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Anastasia Beaverhousen > Mister Don  • 4 months ago 




She's just yakking in a bone. Yep, she got it up.
 
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Harley > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




Maggie stands in front of the microwave and screams "HURRY".
 
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Reality.Bites > Harley  • 4 months ago 




Think it would work if we told her she'd eat quicker if she got inside with the food?
 
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Phaius > greenmanTN  • 4 months ago 




Botulism at least would stop the facial muscles from contorting so much from hearing Brian. Maggie, Matt, etc. squawk so much.
 
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Capritaur > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




If anyone had heard or read the oral arguments of Snyder v. Phelps, with Margie Phelps arguing on behalf of the Phelps (and won), they'd have a hard time believing the Westboro elders actually believed in what they preach. They are a family of attorneys who are extremely knowledgeable in First Amendment issues and perfectly capable of both decorum and logical thinking. Fred Phelps was a civil rights lawyer for goodness' sake. The protests are scams that are outrageous on purpose and intended to encourage First Amendment rights infringements and to incite violent reactions so they can collect their pay in court.
Ever notice that WBC hardly ever protests gay events anymore? Anti-gay protests at gay events are no longer novel or controversial, as a matter of fact it has become as much of a fixture as drag queens and go-go dancers in floats. The gay community has become too aware of WBC they simply shrug them off. They now protest funerals, concerts, and of course, Kim Davis, most of whose supporters are perhaps at best vaguely aware of WBC and it is sure to rouse some rabbles. Of course, I wouldn't shed a tear if they piss off just the wrong hick with some itchy knuckles, and neither would I be too sorry if the Kim Davis Fandom ends up paying hefty damages.
 
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Harley > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




Actually I think we need to turn them into selfie targets. It would be hilarious to see all the selfies with them in the picture. They are really just big jokes anyway so lets have the laugh on them. Just saying.
 
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Octavio > Sam_Handwich  • 4 months ago 




Oh, don't you know it! I'd insist upon sitting on her left side at that dinner party! LOL!
 
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PLAINTOM  • 4 months ago 




I always thought it ironic that the national hate groups chose this particular woman to become the poster child for their cause.
 
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bkmn > PLAINTOM  • 4 months ago 




They are not the brightest bunch.
 
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PLAINTOM > bkmn  • 4 months ago 




And they still haven't figured out why they lost.
 
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BeccaM  • 4 months ago 




I think it's safe to say this is the first time WBC has truly amused me.
 
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John Calendo  • 4 months ago 




This is a pattern observed in all fundamentalist groups. The real venom is saved for other fundamentalists who are deemed not pure enough. Targeting outside groups - gays, other religions, mainstream Christians -- are just the starter campaigns. Ultimately, outsiders are considered sinners and beyond caring about. It's between two groups that profess to be holier than each other where the real blood wars break out.
See European history, post-Protestant Reformation, circa 1524-1648
 
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Veylon > John Calendo  • 4 months ago 




Sure, because the money in the pews, if they get bored, aren't going to turn into Wiccans, they'll go to the other church across the street.
 
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LovesIrony  • 4 months ago 




Westboro Baptist Church = proof there is no god.
 
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TheManicMechanic  • 4 months ago 




They deserve one another. Let them rot together.
 
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zhera  • 4 months ago 




"Thank God for breast cancer"
Fuck you, Shirley. Fuck you with Josh Duggar's syphilis-infected dick.
 
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Gest2016 > zhera  • 4 months ago 




Do not react to them as if they are human. They are feral animals out to get a reaction, and they got one.
 
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Jan Wesselius  • 4 months ago 




Pretty bad when the WBC doesn't even support your bigotry.
 
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David Walker > Jan Wesselius  • 4 months ago 




It does confuse me. Their issue seems more to be Miss Kim's debauched lifestyle, with "gay marriage" running a somewhat distant second. But today I have to go along with those who are pronouncing it performance art or street theater.
 
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Jamie Brewer > David Walker  • 4 months ago 




The Gay community is the first to spot trends.The commentators here who have dubbed this sad protest as performance art have nailed it. I think Westboro has jumped the shark on this one. They truly are irrelevant now. They are begging for attention. If they were not such assholes, I could almost feel pity for them.
 
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ColdCountry  • 4 months ago 




WBC is proof that there is no god. If there was, s/he would smite their butts. They are boils on the ass of humanity.
 
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Kissmagrits > ColdCountry  • 4 months ago 




Or chancres on the prick of progress.
 
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Michael Rush  • 4 months ago 




Where is the cease and desist from Neil Diamond ?
 
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Gest2016  • 4 months ago 




The enemy of my enemy is my friend. OK that's going too far.
 
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Michael Rush > Gest2016  • 4 months ago 




It would be nice if gun lunatics only shot each other .
 
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RJ Tremor > Gest2016  • 4 months ago 




Passing acquaintance works well enough.
 
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Robert Conner > RJ Tremor  • 4 months ago 




OK, I'm stealing that one!
 
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Macbill  • 4 months ago 




Christians hating Christians as Jesus surely hated everybody for making Him die for us.
 
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Rick  • 4 months ago 




Why should I thank god for breast cancer? Does not compute.
 
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Tom Schott > Rick  • 4 months ago 




Silly, because only unsaved women get punished with breast cancer for spreading ungodly lezbo baby-killing feminism. Glory!!!
 
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JCF > Tom Schott  • 4 months ago 




I'd really be shocked if no member of the Phelps Pham has ever had breast cancer. But since they hate the feminists who have been activists for curing it, it's to their interest to shut up about any personal Phelp victim of same. ["Just die quietly, Mabel, we've got some LESBOS to punish!"]
 
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ColdCountry > Rick  • 4 months ago 




And all their other signs do?
 
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bkmn  • 4 months ago 




I get the feeling Kim is probably enjoying the attention, being a fame whore.
 
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James  • 4 months ago 




Where's the mental illness tag?
 
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Andrew Moore  • 4 months ago 




Shirley herself had a son out of wedlock with an unknown man.
 
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CQCQCQ  • 4 months ago 




It's the perfect storm of craziness.
 
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CQCQCQ > CQCQCQ  • 4 months ago 




And I live in Kentucky. My entire life, but for two years when I went to college at Vandy. I love this state. I really do, but people like Kim make it hard to defend my beloved Commonwealth to anyone. Louisville, Lexington, and to some extent, Northern Kentucky are like Austin, Texas. A blue oasis in a fucking sea of red.
 
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BobSF_94117  • 4 months ago 




Worst. Road. Trip. Ever.
Even for them.
 
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lynden55  • 4 months ago 




I love it when the religious eat their own.
 
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Robert Conner  • 4 months ago 




Kim Davis gets the "F cubed" (full frontal fundamentalist) treatment. As a wise Roman remarked, "No wild animal is as dangerous to man as the Christians are to each other." They've always harbored a special hatred for those they consider heretics.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/269...
 
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noni  • 4 months ago 




Finally figured out where Trump got his campaign routine/vaudeville act.
 
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MattM  • 4 months ago 




My new ringtone, honestly.
 
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tomfromthenews  • 4 months ago 




I've gotten to the point where I shudder and gag any time I see anything printed in that font anywhere.
 
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Deacon Phreque  • 4 months ago 




Whatever you do when you encounter the WBC, DO NOT TOUCH. <3
 
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Steven Leahy  • 4 months ago 




Kind of like James Manning, I am increasingly finding WBC far more entertaining than offensive. LOL THIS was funny.
 
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Kissmagrits  • 4 months ago 




Where does WBC's money come from?
Lodgings, food, gas, poster board and paint - -
and daddy Phelps didn't leave much.
 
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Ben Carson: America Needs To Stop Pretending That Every Lifestyle Has The Same Value [AUDIO]
October 8, 2015 2016 Election, Crackpots


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Still reeling from his recent assertion that he would “not just stand there and let [the gunman] shoot me” if he had been present for last week’s Oregon shooting, Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson moved on to a new controversial topic during an interview with SiriusXM Patriot host and frequent Fox News contributor David Webb on Wednesday. Asked by Webb how he would address the “epidemic” of single-parent households in this country, Carson stressed the benefits of “traditional families.” “We have got to stop paying attention to the PC Police who say every lifestyle is exactly of the same value. No, it’s not of the same value,” Carson answered. “It is very clear that intact, traditional families with traditional, intact values do much better in terms of raising children. So let’s stop pretending that everything is of equal value.”

  


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Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I hate the word "lifestyle" when referring to a person's life.
Being born LGBT is not a "lifestyle" it's just a life.
Being a single Mom is not a "lifestyle" it's just a life.
and all these lives have as much value as everyone else.
Religion, however, is a lifestyle and a choice.
Fuck you Ben Carson.
 
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Rebecca Gardner > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




By the way, sorry for my judicious use of "fuck" lately in my posts, but I just cannot take the level of stupidity and hatred that seems to have really ramped-up this year. It's driving me crazy because I have no patience for stupid people.
 
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Gustav2 > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




When a Christianist says not every "lifestyle" has the same value, they are really saying is not every citizen has the same value.
"Fuck you!" is the appropriate and constitutional response.
 
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Wynter Marie Starr > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




To add to your comment, what they are really saying is that unless you are living a "christian lifestyle" your life is worthless and not worthy of protection.
 
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Gustav2 > Wynter Marie Starr  • 5 months ago 




And their particular brand of Christian lifestyle.
Bloomberg just did a focus group of undecided Republicans in Iowa and New Hampshire, 98% agreed with Carson that a Muslim could not be president. One comment, "It's One Nation Under God."
 
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Rebecca Gardner > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




And they are too fucking stupid to know that the Christian and Muslim God are the exact same mythical sky daddy.
 
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bzrd > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




Actually, they are not the same sky daddy. In the Sistine Chapel the rc sky daddy has a grandpa face as he reaches out to Adam. One cannot portray the muslim sky daddy without fear of death and some have been murdered recently for doing so.
 
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HanyBaal > bzrd  • 5 months ago 




The god is still the same, it's the folowers that change.
 
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Harshan > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




I was at a clergy meeting that took place right after a Pat Robertson brain fart. Evangelicals are having a destructive effect on Christianity, so one of the pastors jokingly suggested that we could increase attendance by putting signs outside the churches, saying "Whatever Pat Robertson Believes, We Don't."
 
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The Milkman > Harshan  • 5 months ago 




Maybe they should. It's the moderate Christians who need to take ownership of how their faith is portrayed in our culture. If all the media is focusing on is the right wing freaks, then they only have themselves to blame.
 
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Harshan > The Milkman  • 5 months ago 




Only exotic, outrageous, and unusual things are news. "Plane crashes at airport" is news, but "plane lands safely at airport" is not. News about moderate and liberal Christians is in the "plane lands safely" category. Whether or not it is in the news, you wouldn't notice because of the snooze factor.
 
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Egon Rothschild > The Milkman  • 5 months ago 




they're doing to christianity what isis has done to islam.
 
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The Milkman > Egon Rothschild  • 5 months ago 




And both faiths have to own their own extremists and ensure that they are marginalized.
 
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Ontogenesis > Harshan  • 5 months ago 




They can actively work against those who would persecute us queers in the name of god. I would respect that.
 
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caphillprof > Harshan  • 5 months ago 




It started with the Reformation and the notion of every man a theologian.
 
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Harshan > caphillprof  • 5 months ago 




There were three waves of the Reformation. Luther was the first one. The third and last one began with the Anabaptists. If you take church history in seminary, it's called "the radical reformation" and it is the historical ancestor of evangelicalism. (The pedigree is Anabaptist -> stuff left out -> Puritans -> Baptists, and later evangelicals.) The third wave is where the make-up-your-own-church idea really took root.
 
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Todd > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




Those same morons don't understand that the "under God" part of the pledge didn't come about until the mid 50's. They have zero understanding of the lengths the Founders went to to ensure that there was no favored religious establishment. I think one of the most disappointing things coming out of idiots like Trump and Carson running for an office they are clearly not fit to hold is that we are seeing how many Americans actually believe the dumb shit Carson says and the xenophobic hate that Trump spews. Truly sad.
 
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Roger > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




They don´t have the guts to say exactly what they think because it would be imediately clear even to some conservative people the stark monstruosity of their words: "not every person has the same value". This is the exactly thinking that is used for ethnical os social cleansings, to mass murders and to every genocide in history. When you say that blacks or jews or gays or whatever are harming society, the logical follow up (and they say it more then often) is: we need to save society. And how they intend to do it? THAT is anyones guess, and that is how you create the environment to genocide.
 
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cleos_mom > Roger  • 5 months ago 




Nevertheless, some well-meaning religious folks will patiently explain that they don't refer to the person, just their "lifestyle". Question them further and you'd find that what they want for LGBT people is the celibate "lifestyle". Can't enforce that by law but that's not due to their lack of trying.
 
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vorpal > cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




I still have as of yet to have one single religious person who refers to the "gay lifestyle" tell me what they think that that comprises, apart from possibly the buttsex.
Given how little (wahhhh!) buttsex I have, I hardly think it could possibly qualify as a lifestyle. And does that mean that I am not living the gay "lifestyle" unless I am actively engaged in the hot buttsex?
 
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Giant Monster Gamera > vorpal  • 5 months ago 




If that's the case, then I've only been living the "gay lifestyle" for a handful of months over the past several decades of my life.
 
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vorpal > Giant Monster Gamera  • 5 months ago 




Tell me about it. I've spent orders of magnitude more living the "self-pleasuring lifestyle", as I suspect most guys - regardless of orientation - do.
 
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Robincho > vorpal  • 5 months ago 




Well, there's always passive engagement too...
 
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Priya Lynn > vorpal  • 5 months ago 




"And does that mean that I am not living the gay "lifestyle" unless I am actively engaged in the hot buttsex?".
No. By gay "lifestyle" they mean you have anonymous buttsex with 1000 strangers a year and if you say you are gay then that's your "lifestyle" regardless of how you actually live your life.
 
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vorpal > Priya Lynn  • 5 months ago 




1000 a year??? Given I started days before I turned 19, that means I have 18,992 to catch up on or I'll be a sub-average gay!
 
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Priya Lynn > vorpal  • 5 months ago 




That's right. Believe it or not, that's one of the standard talking points of anti-gay bigots.
 
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Houndentenor > cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




I know such people and they aren't the least bit well-meaning. They just don't like to think of themselves as bigots. They aren't fooling anyone but themselves.
 
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Harshan > Houndentenor  • 5 months ago 




Bigots don't know they are bigots, just as bullies don't know they are bullies. Bigots think that they are the victims, just as the bullies think they are just playing around.
 
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Houndentenor > Harshan  • 5 months ago 




And if you listen to bullies they often (usually?) think of themselves as victims. A friend noted when the anti-bullying campaign started recently that no one thinks of himself as a bully. For example, anti-gay bullies think of themselves as being victimized by the presence of people they perceive to be gay.
 
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cleos_mom > Houndentenor  • 5 months ago 




I won't claim to know the same people you know; but nevertheless, a belief sounding/being absurd doesn't preclude a certain percentage of people honestly believing it.
 
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Houndentenor > cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




I'm not saying they aren't "honest" in their beliefs. I'm just disputing that they are "well-intentioned". There's nothing well-intentioned about intentional ignorance and repeated idiotic statements without thinking through the implications.
 
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crewman > cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




Or the "self-ending lifestyle" that they shame so many teenagers into.
 
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cleos_mom > crewman  • 5 months ago 




Or, as a pious Roman Catholic co-host of a Sunday morning radio show in KC said, "that's what you get for not following the 10 Commandments." (never did explain the connection but he followed it up by comparing homosexuality to tooth decay)
 
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Houndentenor > cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




Or that gay sex didn't make the top 10 but lying, coveting and making statues did!
 
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Octoberfurst > Roger  • 5 months ago 




I worry a lot about that too. In recent years I have heard a constant rise of right-wingers demonizing Muslims, gays, secularists and immigrants. Apparently if you are not a Bible-thumping, White America born heterosexual you are plague on this nation and "something needs to be done about it." "Like what?" you might ask. Well unfortunately these types always talk about "Second Amendment solutions". Obviously that means they would have no problem killing us.
 
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Harshan > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




Oh, copulation! You copulating guys must be from copulating California, where the copulating F word comes before every copulating verb and noun. Either that or they use it to pad dialog in movies to make the run time long enough. (copulating smile)
 
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cleos_mom > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




An if straight non-Christians think that wouldn't apply to them, all they'd need to do is listen to one sermon mentioning "unbelievers" (most often used like a title; i.e., The Unbeliever) to enlighten them.
 
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chicago dyke > cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




i take comfort in the simple fact that they hate each other even more than they hate us. sure, they'd like to round us all up and put us in death camps. they say so, exactly that, sometimes. but the truth is what they don't talk about often where people can hear/see it? the fact that they hate other xtian sects a lot. catholics aren't 'real' xtians; southern baptists aren't 'real' baptists, etc.
xtians may be the majority religion in this country, but there are just so many different kinds. i guarantee you that any second civil war with one side counting upon these people to lead and hold a united xtian theocracy in this country? if it depends on most xtians, it's a lost cause. they could never agree on who should lead them.
 
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David Walker > chicago dyke  • 5 months ago 




Should they ever take over, it will be interesting to see how long any one particular variety stays in power. Please, may it never happen, but I have the feeling our US xns would ultimately put ISIS to shame.
 
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Ontogenesis > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




"Some animals are more equal than others." (And you know what they want to do with the "less equal" animals).
 
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JoeNCA > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




Heterosupremacists.
 
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Dean Cameron > Gustav2  • 5 months ago 




The use of the word "Lifestyle" by Conservatives is also intended to diminish the "Life" of the subject, imply that your life is of less value than theirs.
 
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DaddyRay > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




Unfortunately we have another year of this election crap and it will probably only get worse
 
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Todd20036 > DaddyRay  • 5 months ago 




Worse? Maybe. Entertaining? Definitely.
 
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j.martindale > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I applaud you for it. I think it is fully justified. Don't hold back.
 
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Mark > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I call it my voice of rage. And, it is rage when day after day, one by one, these assholes do their damnedest to discredit my very existence....and yet there is nothing I can do to change their stupid fucking minds or shut their stupid fucking mouths. And yes, #GayLivesMatter >>> Suck that, Benny
 
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olandp > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I've noticed that, and wish you would cut it the fuck out.
 
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Steven Leahy > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




Sometimes it's the best word when others just don't work as well. It's OK!!
 
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Ninja0980 > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




Sometimes it's the only word you can use.
 It really is an outrage that being against science and being a bigoted asshole are now requirements to win a Republican primary.
 
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Todd20036 > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




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Ontogenesis > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




Don't worry. I regularly give my laptop the bird when I'm reading JMG's reports about these bigots. Sometimes I even cue up Lily Allen's "Fuck you" for good measure.
 
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jmax > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.
Mark Twain
 
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Steve Teeter > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




That's all right, dear. We don't mind.
 
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Queequeg > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




It's OK, we all feel your frustration and agree with you. On the brighter side, the hatred has been ramped up because of our victory at the Supreme Court. They can't erase that, as much as they would like to.
 
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Traxley Launderette > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I have no problem with the word. Sometimes the outrage needs the appropriate degree of expression. The beauty of the word is that it's a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, and exclamation. It's multipurpose and convenient.
 
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Joe knows who I am. > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I like it! It's refreshing!
 
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madknits > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




"I have a life, not a lifestyle."
--Nikki Giovanni
 
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Harshan > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I don't believe that "lifestyles" exist. Whoever coined that word did us a huge disservice.
A psychologist studied people who react badly to gays. He found that the emotion they felt was not inappropriate fear (phobia), but inappropriate disgust (racism). He concluded that homophobia is a misnomer. It's not really a phobia, it's a form of racism. (Homophobes are more perverse than we thought!) Yes, I know we are not a race, but for psychological and sociological purposes, we have that role in society.
 
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caphillprof > Harshan  • 5 months ago 




I actually think we should have argued that we were a religion entitled to all the ill-gotten rights of religions.
 
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lymis > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I hate it too, but only because it's not applied to everyone.
I am gay and I have a lifestyle. But it's not some universal "gay lifestyle" and it's not that only minorities have lifestyles but the majority doesn't.
It's like the idiocy that only non-straights have a sexual orientation, or only non-whites have a race, or only some religions count as "real" religions.
 
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Harshan > lymis  • 5 months ago 




Suggested comebacks:
Someone bellows, "I don't approve of the gay lifestyle." You say, "What part of it do you not like, the grocery shopping?"
Someone loudly announces, "I don't approve of same-sex marriage." You say, equally loudly, Oh, so YOU'RE the one! You're the Approval Authority of the Universe! I wondered who that was."
Someone yells out, "I don't approve of same-sex marriage." You say, "If you're not one of the people, it's none of your business, so why do you care?"
 
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raybob > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I am so over and done with the hate-filled and divisive public-figure lifestyle, too. Those are all choices. My LIFE is not a damned choice, Ben.
 
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Gest2016 > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




As I recall, Benjamin's lifestyle of being black isn't as valied as being White, especially amongst cops. So FUCK YOU Benjamin for calling innate human characteristics a "lifestyle."
 
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Dead Giveaway > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I agree and similarly hate the term "sexual preference", as if I one day decided to be gay. It's sexual orientation. It's not a choice.
 
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JB > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




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John T > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




I hate the word "lifestyle". Anyone who uses it is either a conservative Christian trying to scold me by comparing my sexual orientation to some sort frivolous but evil choice (as opposed to the naturally unstyled life that they lead), or a marketer trying to pigeonhole me into a consumer category.
 
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Steve Teeter > John T  • 5 months ago 




Being a Club Kid is a lifestyle. Being gay is a life. My "lifestyle" is staying home and taking care of my disabled partner. I'll bet those assholes could even find fault with that.
 
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BudClark > Rebecca Gardner  • 5 months ago 




MUST we, REALLY?
 
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Mike Solo  • 5 months ago 




Then can we stop pretending that religious cult families are of the same value as rational open and tolerant ones?
 
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David Walker > Mike Solo  • 5 months ago 




Of course, Mike. We'll finally be able to uphold the religious cult families as far superior to any other lifestyle. (snark. eye roll, surprised fingers cooperated in typing that sentence.)
 
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The Professor  • 5 months ago 




Funny, people used to think that not every race had equal value. Even his own church folk. Benny ought to remember that.
http://www.drslewis.org/camill...
 
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Stogiebear > The Professor  • 5 months ago 




And it's something he should be reminded of. Repeatedly:
https://twitter.com/RealBenCar...
https://www.bencarson.com/askb...
https://www.facebook.com/realb...
 
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JT  • 5 months ago 




America Needs To Stop Pretending
that this is a Presidential candidate.
 
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Steven Leahy  • 5 months ago 




And to think there are significant numbers of people who think this fool is cut out to be president. No experience, no charisma, no personality, no insight, no logic, no ability to self-regulate to prevent projectile word-vomit from spewing from his cake hole, and no intelligence outside of his ability to splice neurons together. What a winner!
 
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Stogiebear > Steven Leahy  • 5 months ago 




Also: no humanity.
 
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Baby_Raptor > Steven Leahy  • 5 months ago 




The people you speak of see those things as perks, not flaws.
 
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vorpal > Baby_Raptor  • 5 months ago 




They certainly comprise traits that most of them dumb fucks can relate to.
 
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Todd20036 > Baby_Raptor  • 5 months ago 




At least in the GOTP primaries.
In the general, not so much
 
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David Walker > Steven Leahy  • 5 months ago 




For a moment I thought you were writing about The Donald.
 
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Steven Leahy > David Walker  • 5 months ago 




With nearly all of the republicans, most comments like those are fully interchangeable :-)
 
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Chuck Anziulewicz  • 5 months ago 




I don't have a "lifestyle," I have a LIFE.
 
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Skokieguy [Larry]  • 5 months ago 




Yes, Ben, some Americans are only worth 3/5th of the rest of us. Is that your point?
 
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Stogiebear  • 5 months ago 




Speaking of lifestyle choices, Ben Carson appears to be a secret Muslim.
 
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scottrose > Stogiebear  • 5 months ago 




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Chucktech > Stogiebear  • 5 months ago 




I just read that on the Internet, so it must be true...
 
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Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




'Lifestyles' are consumer choices. The term was devised by advertisers to make people identify their whole existence with the products they select. There is absolutely nothing traditional or cultural about the term.
 
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Reality.Bites > Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




My first encounter with the term was when newspapers realized it was offensive to have "Women" sections.
 
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Bj Lincoln  • 5 months ago 




I raised my son as a single parent and now I am a married lesbian. Everyday I live my life the best I am able. We all do. This man has no business stating MY life is not valuable.
 
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skeptical_inquirer > Bj Lincoln  • 5 months ago 




Especially since his own mom was in the same boat as you raising him, it's just mind boggling.
 
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vorpal  • 5 months ago 




Quote: It is very clear that X.
Meaning: I have no evidence for X, but here is an authoritative emotional appeal that you blindly accept X.
Quote: Stop pretending every lifestyle has the same value.
Meaning: If you are a member of a group of which I disapprove, you deserve less rights and protections under the law.
And again, these idiots are excellent at pointing out problems that they think exist (e.g. single parents), but always unable to propose any solutions.
I think the big problem is that they have a roaring addiction to pointing the finger with judgment to get a big hit of (completely unmerited) smug self-righteous superiority.
 
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Marc  • 5 months ago 




Ben Carson, who grew up in a single family home, went on to become a successful neurosurgeon. I would think that he would recognize that people can go on to achieve great things despite their upbringings, whether it's from having multiple parents, one parent or no parents.
On the other hand, listening to this man talk indicates he's a complete idiot.
 
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Todd20036 > Marc  • 5 months ago 




He's part of the "libertarian" movement that boils down to, "I got mine. Fuck you."
 
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cleos_mom > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




In Carson's case, it can also go by the motto "surely you can't be saying that civil rights apply to those people."
 
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Marc > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




Yep. See also "Do as I say not as I do."
 
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Todd20036 > Guest  • 5 months ago 




He's no scientist. He's merely a brain-mechanic.
 
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Necessitas > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




He doesn't even fix brains, his specialty is lobotomy, he just removes chunks of them. I think he practiced on himself.
 
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Ginger Snap > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




I'll pass on the religious mind fuck thank you.
 
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Todd20036 > Ginger Snap  • 5 months ago 




Right? I barely acknowledge the religion I was born into.
And yet, I'm not completely atheist.
 
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Ginger Snap > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




I don't believe in any god but refuse to be labeled an atheist. I've had so many labels placed on me my whole life and I have no need to have a another label.
 
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Reality.Bites > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




And mechanics are supposed to look like this, not Erkel.

  
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Robincho > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




If he's so great with the neuros, why the hell can't he locate and cut the one that gives him that stupid fucking sneer? It's like mirror-image Cheney.
People with normal mouth lifestyles don't look like Ben...
 
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REBELComx  • 5 months ago 




He's right on one thing though. He would not have "just stood there" if someone pulled a gun on him. He would have collapsed into a fetal position and defecated himself.
 
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LovesIrony  • 5 months ago 




says the man raised by a single mother
 
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skeptical_inquirer > LovesIrony  • 5 months ago 




I always want to slap him and say "How much do you hate the woman who raised you, asshole?" Because she was basically everything he despises. She left a man for good reason, was uneducated and worked hard but still needed assistance (which I don't blame her for).
 
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Todd20036 > skeptical_inquirer  • 5 months ago 




Carson is a hypocrite on so many levels that even if he won the nomination, he'd lose in the general.
But I'd be gobsmacked if the GOTP voted for a black man, even if he is a quisling.
 
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Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




My uncle was a brilliant surgeon. He was also a greedy property speculator and a terrible parent: a monster who ruined his family, abused his wife and is now completely bankrupt and senile and living in his daughter's garage.
 
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Todd20036 > Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




So he was a rather poor property speculator.
 
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Lil Nephew > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




Oh he was very rich for a long time. But he got super greedy and overreached himself. And then 2008 arrived.
 
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Todd20036 > Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




Reminds me of a couple of men I met in a restaurant around that time. All they did was buy and sell properties at higher prices. They castigated me for living in one condo and just sitting on the equity.
I'd bet by now they're in hock with multiple mortgages and possibly bankrupt.
I'm still in that same condo in Dupont, and I paid off the mortgage.
A little greed isn't so wrong, but after a point, it will have consequences.
 
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jmax > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




Kinda off topic, but my partner and I went to DC for the first time a couple of months ago. We stayed at the Fairfax on Dupont Circle. Great neighborhood, and a fun city. We plan on going back soon.
 
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RoFaWh > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




I worked for years in the tax assessment field. One of the older blowhards who'd been around since the early fifties used to go on about just that, using the equity in one's home for investment purposes. But another of the old guys advised not to do it; if you want to invest the equity in your home, then sell out, move to a cheaper place, and invest the difference in price, but never risk the roof over your head by exposing it to the vagaries of Wall Street.
 
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Chucktech > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




Great part of town. I miss it.
 
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Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




Love the fact that he still thinks a mom and a dad means magically kids will do better, than a same sex family.
I've a few examples to show him his logical flaws.
But then this yutz cares little for actual science.
 
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Ginger Snap  • 5 months ago 




He must mean a poverty "lifestyle" doesn't have the same value as a wealthy "lifestyle."
 
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j.martindale  • 5 months ago 




What the fuck does this have to do with being the President? This judgmental bastard needs to be asked about how he would handle trade with China. He needs to be asked what qualities he would look for in Supreme Court nominations. He needs to be asked what he thinks about bloated military budgets and toys the armed services spends billions on that don't work. He needs to be asked if he is going to destroy the Postal Service. He needs to be asked what the hell good he would do for the American people if he was President. And I can answer the last one for him. No fucking good! His bigotry and religious biases aren't worth shit.
 
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Jamie Brewer > j.martindale  • 5 months ago 




He was on NPR's Marketplace Money last night. His answer to balance the budget was an across the board cut of 4% to every Govt program. That interview was so painful to listen to. Carson is ignorant on so many levels. To imagine he is a current contender for the Republican presidential nomination speaks volumes on how stupidity is currently worshiped by the GOP.
 
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Chucktech > Jamie Brewer  • 5 months ago 




An across the board cut of 4% to every Govt program. And nobody challenged him on just how stoopid that would be.
 
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JW Swift > Chucktech  • 5 months ago 




And it probably went without saying that the Pentagon was excluded. Unless they were somehow going to get the 4% from soldier benefits, the VA or some such.
 
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ExGayTherapyKills > j.martindale  • 5 months ago 




Ben needs to stop pretending he is going to be president.
 
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Robert Adams  • 5 months ago 




Yeah, Ben, let's remind people they should know their place. Wouldn't want them to become too uppity.
 
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Sam_Handwich  • 5 months ago 




sounds like he's condemning the heterosexual lifestyle
 
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Baby_Raptor  • 5 months ago 




So you're telling me that I no longer have to pretend to respect Christians?
 
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Bj Lincoln > Baby_Raptor  • 5 months ago 




Yes. You can stop.
 
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Anastasia Beaverhousen  • 5 months ago 




No, Ben, no... Let's stop pretending you are a smart, intellectual, real presidential candidate who has any qualifications to run this country.
 
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Prion  • 5 months ago 




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Todd20036 > Prion  • 5 months ago 




Nice!
 
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tristram > Prion  • 5 months ago 




Donald Trump is a temporary distraction. It will be Rubio, Bush or Cruz, most likely Rubio (who will be a formidable candidate, especially if paired with someone like Kasich).
 
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canoebum > tristram  • 5 months ago 




Rubio is a lightweight; he won't be stand up under the pressure of the campaign in the general election. His deeply flawed personality and lack of knowledge will be revealed for the whole country to see.
 
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JW Swift > canoebum  • 5 months ago 




I think the same or at least extremely similar things could be said about Trump, yet his popularity remains up there, no matter how many of his flaws he puts on display.
 
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Todd20036 > canoebum  • 5 months ago 




Bush is polling in the mid-single digits. If his numbers don't improve soon, then his backers will pull out, and that will be the end of his candidacy.
That leaves Cruz, and he's as nutty as Carson.
 
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canoebum > Todd20036  • 5 months ago 




Nutty is a bit of an understatement. I think "dangerous lunatic" is closer to the mark.
 
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lymis > tristram  • 5 months ago 




And if not, we'll have a Democratic president.
 
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Chucktech > lymis  • 5 months ago 




And if so, we'll have a Democratic president.
 
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AtticusP  • 5 months ago 




One of the panelists on "The View" called Ben Carson "human melatonin" earlier this week.
I have to say that I agree with her.
 
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rextrek1  • 5 months ago 




he just one AWFUL person....and Proof , that Book smarts does NOT Equal Common sense.....
 
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Robincho > rextrek1  • 5 months ago 




He probably knows that a tomato is a fruit, but he doesn't know enough not to put it in a fucking fruit salad...
 
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bambinoitaliano  • 5 months ago 




He tapped into Trump crazy talk audience. Like a shark smell the blood, he has amp up the bullshit to stay with the lead. Rating the piece of dried beef jerky of a jindal and that mushy fermented pancake of a fuckabee could not achieve.
 
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Jarle Tveitan  • 5 months ago 




Religious lifestyles are worth less than other lifestyles.
Thats what he meant right?
:p
 
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Chris Baker  • 5 months ago 




How do you address the 'problem' of single parenthood when you deny sex education, free birth control, etc.?
 
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RoFaWh > Chris Baker  • 5 months ago 




Don't be so goddam logical! It frightens the goobers.
 
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Houndentenor  • 5 months ago 




Even if that were true, there are millions of children who do not have an "intact" family. What happens to them? People like Carson live in a fantasy world where their ideal is the norm and the millions of people for whom that ideal isn't ever going to happen are ignored. And what's most bizarre about this is that unlike Jeb Bush, he didn't grow up in that fantasy world.
 
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skeptical_inquirer > Houndentenor  • 5 months ago 




I get why people like Jeb and Rmoney is out of touch. We're talking an insane level of self-hatred in Carson's case.
 
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Houndentenor > skeptical_inquirer  • 5 months ago 




We see the same self-loathing among gay Republicans.
 
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Dreaming Vertebrate  • 5 months ago 




Not everyone has equal value?
Sounds like Ben is yearning for the old days when people like him were worth only 2/3 RDS of a proper, traditional American. What a jackass!
 
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cleos_mom > Dreaming Vertebrate  • 5 months ago 




Nope, not even two thirds: three fifths. 66.66% vs 60%.
(sorry about the math nerdishness)
 
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Stephen Oetken  • 5 months ago 




I just keep repeating to myself, "he'll never be President...he'll never be President..."
 
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Todd20036 > Stephen Oetken  • 5 months ago 




He'll never be the GOTP nominee even.
Once more of the GOTP voters see what he looks like, their racism will bubble to the surface, and they'll vote for the white guy with the ratty hair
 
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Tor  • 5 months ago 




Does he have a plan for single-parent households, other than to tell them they are bad? Education assistance? Day-care assistance? Dating service?
 
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Taleisin > Tor  • 5 months ago 




Make divorce harder to get? Forced adoption?
 
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chrisinphx  • 5 months ago 




What in the actual fuck is he talking about?! He seems to have forgotten that not that long ago he wasn't even considered a person worthy of a "lifestyle" just a piece of property.
 
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Ninja0980  • 5 months ago 




A lifestyle is whether or not you go out and party on weekends or stay in and watch movies.
 Being LGBT is NOT a lifestyle or choice, it's who we are and we are as damn worthy and valuable as anyone else.
 Fuck this asshole and FUCK the people that tell us we need to respect bigots like this.
 
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Cuberly  • 5 months ago 




Ben, we already have a day of the week set aside to judge, lament and shame differences. It's called Shunday. And they even have these buildings where shunners can meet up to share in the shunning.
 
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oikos  • 5 months ago 




He's right you know. According to the GOP only white, christian lives matter. Sorry about that Ben.
 
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Rod Steely  • 5 months ago 




Ben Carson I remember a time when the United States didn't consider all PEOPLE to be of equal value.
 
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Galvestonian  • 5 months ago 




ooopsie ! What he's really trying to say is that LGBT's aren't equal 'cause good christians gotta hate and we is IT ! According to christians we've ALWAYS been hated, It's just part of biblical liturgy, always has, no offense but that's just the way it is. By making us equal you're taking away good christian values and don't really mean to offend anyone but well...
 
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Johnny Wyeknot  • 5 months ago 




Example A: the Duggar family?
 
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Blake Jordan  • 5 months ago 




Not even close to the fucking truth carson!
There is no unique positive aspect to one mom - one dad households.
 
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Sean  • 5 months ago 




What "lifestyles" is the House Negro Uncle Tom Dr. Carl Vaernet wannabe talking about? Goth, preppy, jock, country, bohemian? Those are lifestyles.
Under American law, the American government is required to treat every citizen equally and every family equally. That is NOT "PC", that is American law. The religious-reich's cries about "PC" shows their Aryan mentality that there are human beings of less or no value to them and therefore should be treated as such. That mentality is uncivilized and ACTUALLY of NO value to this world.
There are many studies that say children do just as well if not better with single gender parents. Children deserve at least one parent who will love, protect and provide for them unconditionally. If children have two, what is in between their parents legs is irrelevant. Educated civilized people understand that.
4month old Gabriel Crystalus was taken from his adoptive lesbian moms and given back to his teenage bio-mom and dad and he died from neglect. 4yo Zachary Dutro was killed by his anti-gay bio mother and her boyfriend - in other words raised by a man and a woman. 3yo Ronnie Paris was killed by his anti-gay "Christian" bio father and his mother watched. Jed Maddalon from NC was born to heterosexual parents who chained him to a bed and barely fed him from a dog bowl on the floor until he was rescued at 3yo. He went through 29 families by the time he was 13 who were incapable of taking adequate care of him. When he was 14 the state was ready to give up on him and throw him away like trash into a mental hospital. It was 2gay men, a couple, who rescued him from that fate of being permanently caged like an animal, gave him his 1st birthday party and raised him to be a civilized, well-mannered young adult who went to college studying to be a social worker so what happened to him will not happen to other kids treated like dogs by their heterosexual parents.
Anti-LGBT heterosexual parents, not gay ones, are the reason why there are thousands of LGBT youth living on the streets eating out of garbage cans, drug dealing and using, and prostituting themselves just to pay for a warm place to sleep and a scrap of food.
Heterosexual parents, not LGBT ones, are the reason why there are thousands of children flooding the foster/adoption system abandoned, rejected, or neglected by their hetero parents. They age out and are also reduced to living on the streets eating out of garbage cans, drug dealing and using, and prostituting themselves just to pay for a warm place to sleep & a scrap of food.
There are MILLIONS of children being raised by 2men or 2women. This ship has sailed. Get over it. These anti-LGBT arguments are ones for kidnapping children from parents you deem "inferior" simply for who they are & because they don't fit YOUR ideal just like the anti-LGBT Nazi filth Heinrich Himmler did to the parents of Europe and that will happen over our dead bodies, Anti-LGBT Inc. My second amendment right is ready and waiting to protect my family & my friends families.
 
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Sean > Sean  • 5 months ago 




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Bud Evans > Sean  • 5 months ago 




Don't forget how hetero-fascists everywhere have imposed this repulsive standard of forced conformity even on other heterosexuals at different times is the past and in different cultures. Untold numbers of children removed from Romani (Gypsy) parents and sent to state orphanages to rot is still a common occurrence today in many European countries. Thousands of Aborigine children were stolen from their parents at one time in Australia's own shameful past in dealing with racial minorities ( Australian historian Robert Manne suggests "approximately 20,000 to 25,000" were removed between 1910 and 1970, based on the Australian Bureau of Statistics report of 1994). Then there were the thousands of children taken from Native American families in the United States and in Canada over the centuries, and sent to Missionary Schools to be "civilized", where they were taught to hate their own people's culture. This very old and vile game of "my family is better than your family" goes back a long, long ways. It's time to stop this bullshit.
 
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I completely agree Ben Carson, not every "lifestyle" has the same value. Let's stop respecting and promoting the christian "lifestyle". That is a cult that needs to shamed and ridiculed into extinction. Let's concentrate on helping humanity instead of sick mythologies.
 
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billbear1961  • 5 months ago 




It's clear that children raised by gay couples do just as well as--sometimes better than--kids raised in traditional environments.
It is time to stop pretending that right-wing Christers are REAL Christians who practice the Golden Rule, who don't violate ANY biblical rule they please with impunity while attempting to single ONE group out for special punishment at their hypocritical hands, who have some kind of "special right" to STAMP OUT the civil rights of their neighbours!
Cowardly, pandering fascist BASTARD, you are your fellow THUGS will keep your goddamned filthy claws OFF other people's RIGHTS!!
For remember--if OUR rights don't need to be respected in the public square, then neither do YOURS!!
 
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Gianni  • 5 months ago 




Once upon a time, your skin color would have made you of much lesser value as a human being, but much greater value as a slave. Where does it all end? And who decides who is of lesser value? You? Traditional values - you mean keep gay people as far away from legal equality as you can. It must mean that because most of us don't give a rat's ass whether you personally like us or not.
 
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Egon Rothschild  • 5 months ago 




"traditional families". let's see, biblical traditional? ie, one man, many wives, many concubines? or 1950s traditional? man works, woman stays home to raise kids? if the latter, will he subsidize that family because one income isn't enough to support it?
 
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Octavio  • 5 months ago 




He would not stand there. He would rush the shooter and tell others to help or get away. And then he has the nerve to admit on CBS Morning News that he doesn't know who Steve Mintz is. Steve Mintz, the guy who charged at the shooter and got shot SEVEN TIMES as he told his classmates to get away. Ben Carson is just a fuck wad. Nothing to see here. Move along. He will never amount to anything of consequence. His medical career is over. Get away, Carson, before you get shot.
 
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Taleisin > Octavio  • 5 months ago 




Ben also tells a story of how he had a gun pointed at him in a Popeye's and told the gunman to point it at the cashier. What a hero.
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Octavio > Taleisin  • 5 months ago 




Yeah. I'm voting for him, fer sure. /s
 
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Ritorna Vincitor  • 5 months ago 




So the epidemic of single-parent households is caused by gay marriage? How did this man ever become a surgeon?
 
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ExGayTherapyKills  • 5 months ago 




When did he stopped pretending he was black?
 
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RoFaWh  • 5 months ago 




People like Carson really piss me off. Who the fuck is he to say some lifestyles are more valuable than others? Who is he? The Maximum Emperor and Supreme Lifestyle Evaluator of the Universe?
Oddly enough, I do believe that a nuclearish family is the best environment for kids to grow up in, but circumstances often don't allow that and then people have to do the best they can. No dissing until you've walked the proverbial mile in their shoes!
And if a person's lifestyle pleases them, who the fuck is Carson to suggest it's a lower value lifestyle than his own defrocked-neurosurgeon-and-general-madman lifestyle?
And, yeah, my own lifestyle is undoubtedly low value in Carson's eyes. Fat, lazy, retired, and smokes way too much you know what. Don't like that Ben? Then fuck off.
[I think I'm channeling Bill Bear this morning.]
 
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Balderdashing  • 5 months ago 




Yeah, let's stop endorsing the lifestyle of the superstitious, for instance. Let's revoke the special tax breaks for religious institutions!
 
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Michael Senesac  • 5 months ago 




He's also saying that children in single parent households are not of equal value.
 
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Harshan  • 5 months ago 




Maybe Ben Carson has a point. However, the only "lifestyle" that comes to mind as having less value to society is his.
 
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Jack  • 5 months ago 




Someone hasn't done his research.
 
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BudClark > Jack  • 5 months ago 




When does he ever?
 
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Jack > BudClark  • 5 months ago 




Prior to surgery, maybe?
 
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RoFaWh > BudClark  • 5 months ago 




Can he even read?
 
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Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




He can do one thing exceptionally well. That doesn't make him a general expert or a natural leader.
You might as well elect Josh Bell POTUS because he can play the violin.
 
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olandp > Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




Not to mention cute.
 
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WildwoodGuy > olandp  • 5 months ago 




And, I believe STILL single!
 
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radiofreerome  • 5 months ago 




What Ben Carson means is that not every life has the same value. This is the rhetoric of genocide.
 
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LovesIrony  • 5 months ago 




oops there goes the single parent vote and the votes of those that love and admire them. Keep talking Ben there are a few demographics you haven't insulted yet.
 
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cleos_mom > LovesIrony  • 5 months ago 




Wouldn't count on that; plenty of single parents lack education. That's an essential quality for the GOP base.
 
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houstonray  • 5 months ago 




He's a dick.
 
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GuestStop  • 5 months ago 




You got it partially right. Not every 'lifestyle' has the same value. Being an Uncle Tom is vastly unappreciated by the left. It's done wonders for your career. You've gone from being a respected neurosurgeon to running for head of the clown college. Oh the places you'll go when you're too fucked up to see straight. I don't know if you're on drugs or just unhinged, I'm just glad you're not practicing medicine anymore.
 
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MAP  • 5 months ago 




Is Ben Carson talking about the 70 % of African American children being born out of wedlock in America? Is he talking about all those baby daddies who aren't taking care of their children? Is he talking about the Gangsta life style?
 
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Ore Carmi  • 5 months ago 




Well, he's a bigot AND he's wrong.
 
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Chicago joe  • 5 months ago 




So his lifestyle growing up was not to be valued
Carson was born in Detroit, Michigan, the son of Sonya (née Copeland) and Robert Solomon Carson, a Seventh-day Adventist minister.[3] Both his parents came from rural Georgia.[3] The results of a DNA test on the television series African American Lives estimated his ancestry as 20% European and 80% African, including ancestors within the Makua people.[4] His parents divorced when he was eight, and he and his ten-year-old brother Curtis were raised by their mother.[5]
 
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Queequeg  • 5 months ago 




Another insane rant from a madman. Honestly he is scarier than Trump.
 
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jomicur  • 5 months ago 




But Ben, how do you think the president should address this when conservatives keep telling us marriage should be left to the states? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth, er, both of your faces.
 
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RLK2  • 5 months ago 




Actually, it has been shown that same-sex families are just as good if not better that straights in raising children. So the twerp lies again.
 
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EdmondWherever  • 5 months ago 




Let's stop pretending you have a chance in hell to be president.
 
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The Milkman  • 5 months ago 




He's right. A lifestyle, whatever that means, based on lies, animus, and discrimination again minority groups isn't as worthy of equal regard and consideration as one based on honesty, love, and hard work. And for a physician, he displays astonishing ignorance of the peer reviewed literature on gay family structures and child rearing.
 
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Raising_Rlyeh  • 5 months ago 




He does have some valid points about issues facing single parents, in particular single mothers because apparently single fathers don't exist, but of course his "solutions" would just make things work. If you want to help single parents out you should raise the minimal wage so you don't have to work more than one job to get by. He's still an asshole.
 
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Stev84 > Raising_Rlyeh  • 5 months ago 




They don't complain about single fathers, but they certainly complain a lot of about absent father. Pyiush Jindal just mentioned them and blamed the Oregon shooting on one.
There are a lot of conservatives who think many of society's ills can be blamed on "absent fathers" who selfishly abandon their children. David Blankenhorn (if Prop 8 fame) staked his entire professional career on the absurd idea that all of society's problems could be solved if he could somehow force fathers to stay with their families.
 
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motordog  • 5 months ago 




I couldn't agree more, Bennie...these Xtian thugs with their 'chosen lifestyle' need to understand they can't keep pushing others around!
 
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lymis  • 5 months ago 




"” “We have got to stop paying attention to the PC Police who say every lifestyle is exactly of the same value."
No, we have to stop paying attention to assholes who try to use some nebulous idea of "value" as the basis of equality under the law.
The idea that only the people you see as valuable deserve equality IS the problem.
Judge away about how much value someone else has. That's not the discussion at hand. But you don't get to use your standards of value to determine someone else's rights.
 
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cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




I have a deeply held religious belief that the lifestyles of semi-somnambulant neurosurgeons are not of the same value as.... well, just about anything.
That's my deeply held religious belief and I'm sticking to it.
 
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RoFaWh > cleos_mom  • 5 months ago 




Your belief may be deeply held but is it sincere?
 
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Dean  • 5 months ago 




He's correct==there is no value in a "Christian" lifestyle.
 
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RoFaWh > Guest  • 5 months ago 




Such a skit would actually be a blow for racial equality by revealing that it's no longer verboten to make fun of stupid black people like Carson. Skin color makes no difference where satire is concerned.
 
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PeterC  • 5 months ago 




And just how many studies back up his statement on the quality of life that is harmed by the various "lifestyles" that he is worried about?
 
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Buford  • 5 months ago 




So I take it that this fuqtard intends to outlaw no-fault divorce if he becomes president...?
 
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Matthew Cimino  • 5 months ago 




I'm looking forward to meeting his "other" family some day.
 
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Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




Quiet everyone. The longer these no-hopers keep going, the more money will be wasted while serious candidates are undermined and ignored. And when the Trump or this piece of nonsense fall by the wayside, Teabagistan will be so outraged by the supposed betrayal that the GOP vote will be blown into smithereens for a decade as they scream about third party takeovers..
 
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Baby_Raptor > Lil Nephew  • 5 months ago 




Carly Fiawhatsherface is apparently the most popular right now.
Did you know her degree in medieval history makes her qualified to handle ISIS?
 
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Lil Nephew > Baby_Raptor  • 5 months ago 




Carly's corporate record alone is a landmine waiting to blow her sky high once the REAL debates arrive.
 
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cleos_mom > Baby_Raptor  • 5 months ago 




Whatever could be accomplished by clenching her jaw and making statements intended to express barely-suppressed rage, you could count on her to do.
 
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Taleisin  • 5 months ago 




Neither Obama or Bill Clinton were raised in traditional families and they got to be presidents of the United States. Unlike you, Mental Ben.
 
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ExGayTherapyKills  • 5 months ago 




How many people has he killed with his brain operations?
 
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TampaDink  • 5 months ago 




This, once "brilliant" neurosurgeon, is clearly brain damaged and it doesn't require any medical training to determine this.
 
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DaveMiller135  • 5 months ago 




E Pluribus Unum, buddy.
Oh, and by the by, the science contradicts you on "traditional" families.
 
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Traxley Launderette  • 5 months ago 




God, he just keeps bringing it. What a fucktard.
 
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LarryChemEngr  • 5 months ago 




The same value to whom, Ben? You? And why are you the decider of whose life is more valuable than others?
And who is America, btw? America is comprised of 300+ million individuals, each with their own lives and values. You can expect everyone to have the same bigoted, asinine values as you do, Ben.
 
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David  • 5 months ago 




Every time he opens his mouth it should be the end of his career, but somehow it's not. Baffling.
 
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mikeinrkfd  • 5 months ago 




So says the MDeity.
 
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David F.  • 5 months ago 




Carson needs to stop pretending that he is in any way even remotely qualified to be president let alone chief pooper scooper at the dog pound.
 
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chris james  • 5 months ago 




What is the "value" of a mentally ill brain surgeon running for president?
 
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Harshan  • 5 months ago 




Did Ben Carson attempt brain surgery on himself? If so, his reputation is inflated.
 
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Fyva Prold > Harshan  • 5 months ago 




He's been fiddling with ice picks too much.
 
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Jan Wesselius  • 5 months ago 




We need to talk about it, What a sham. People have been talking about things for years now. It's like when people say, "education is the answer". A 5 year old kid knows right from wrong, it's applying the education. A 5 year old kid knows your not suppose to kill someone, yet kids kill each other, We don't need more talking or education, we need action. Sterilize the mother AND father of out of wedlock children, Start the death penalty up again, Lets do action, no more talking.
 
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Priya Lynn > Jan Wesselius  • 5 months ago 




Yes,, that'll fix everything - its so simple!
 
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Gladys Knight – Just A Little [VIDEO]
October 8, 2015 Pop Music


The production video for a new Gladys Knight dance single is out this week. Via Billboard:

The upbeat track teams the seven-time Grammy Award winner with fellow Grammy winner and producer Symbolyc One, aka S1 (Kanye West’s “Power,” Beyoncé’s “Best Thing I Never Had.”). Written and vocal-produced by Knight protégé/R&B singer Avehre, “Just a Little” is the lead single from the singer’s 12th studio album. It’s due next year via the Empire-distributed label WCMC (When Creative Minds Collide). “We just wanted to have fun,” says Knight, who is also the newest ambassador for VH1’s Save the Music Foundation. “Most of the singles I’ve released prior to this were ballads. I wanted something we could dance to.”


  


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Dan  • 5 months ago 




I wanted to like that but...no.
 
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Sashineb > Dan  • 5 months ago 




I wish these singers would concentrate on doing what they do best -- R&B and real soul music. Aretha is planning another album next year, probably more "diva" stuff.
 
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TJay229 > Dan  • 5 months ago 




LoL
 
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Mark  • 5 months ago 




If the tune and the singing had as much pump and jump as the dancers - this would score. As it is, it didn't.
 
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CanuckDon > Mark  • 5 months ago 




When the beat of disco kicks in, it starts to take life but it doesn't last and neither does the excitement. The vocal also seems to be just ever so slightly out of sync with the rhythm...like it's trying to catch up. The entire song just doesn't feel natural.
 
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Drayfield > CanuckDon  • 5 months ago 




I agree. I felt there was something missing. This could have been a lot better if they decided which way to go - club dance or radio pop. Gladys' voice still sounds good but...
 
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Lars De > Drayfield  • 5 months ago 




It's as if 4 or 5 fragmented ideas for songs were just sewn together. And as CanuckDon said, the vocal timing was really way off.
 
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Randy Left Brooklyn > Lars De  • 5 months ago 




That's what happens When Creative Minds Collide.
 
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Lars De > Randy Left Brooklyn  • 5 months ago 




Maybe I should have stressed "fragmented ideas that seem to have nothing to do with each other and don't seem to work together at all".
 
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CanuckDon > Lars De  • 5 months ago 




I'm glad you guys noticed it as well. I started to wonder if I was losing it (more than usual) or if I wasn't up on some new trend of vocal lagging. It's really noticeable when the background vocalists sing the line "just a little". Yeah, it's just a little...off.
 
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Production Overboard > Drayfield  • 5 months ago 




It was all over the place. There were two points where the sound was such that I thought I had the video playing in two separate browsers with a slight lag. But it was just the over-production of this wannabe hit.
 
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ETownCanuck  • 5 months ago 




What song are the background dancers dancing to? Cuz I'm pretty sure it ain't this one.
 
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Green Arrow > ETownCanuck  • 5 months ago 




They're all marching to a different drummer. Er.. drum machine.
 
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Green Arrow  • 5 months ago 




Auto tune? Gladys honey, no.
 
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Duh-David > Green Arrow  • 5 months ago 




Autotune is most noticeable when it has to correct singers who are further from the pitch; at least with Gladys she's right on pitch and the computer is less noticeable. But everyone is tuned these days; the children expect it, and the labels think songs won't sell without.
 
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Lars De > Duh-David  • 5 months ago 




I hate it so much. It totally removes the human elelment of a voice and makes everyone sound so fake. Well, on the upside for many in the business today, a fake sounding voice matches their fake looking plastic face.
 
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Gladys, honey, that wig, no.
 
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ah come on, be nice. LOL I thought she looked great. 70 is the new 40 don't cha know? :)
 
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She does look great and sound great, but that wig, like that song...
 
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My question would be whether the message in this music is consistent with her relatively recent conversion to Mormonism, and if so, whether the message likewise extends to her erstwhile admirers in the LGBT community.
 
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So so. I kept waiting for her to break it out. But think the remixes could be pretty good.
 
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Normally I like her music, especially the earlier hits, but this is a disjointed mess.
 
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maybe not the best song, but her voice is still a voice to be reckoned with. her bangs need to be cut, but i love that she has not had a lift. or at least not recently.
 
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Oy! I've loved Gladys forever. Through I Dont Want To Do Wrong, I Heard It Through The Grapevine (she did it first), If I Were You Woman, etc so my expectations were high and I thought you queens were just being vicious but.....Gladys, honey, take that thing off your head and sing the way and what you were born to sing. This ain't you.
 
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Everyone trying to fill the void of Donna Summer and Whitney Houston....
 
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I loved it. If the whole CD is like this or in this vein I'll get it. I love upbeat music. She looks really good too. Such an amazing woman and her talent doesn't deserved to be boxed into one category. She's capable of this genre in my opinion so then more power to her!
 
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She's still got a beautiful voice, evocative of so much great music from the 1970s. But I can't get past her having created a new niche known by many as mormon disco funk. Who the hell can dance to this "dance single" of hers? Sorry, Dick. I give it only a 23 over a 16.
 
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I always her voice, but this song is undanceable. I saw Gladys in the 80's at the Universal Amphitheater. This was after "That's what friends are for" was released to support AIDS patients. Before the song, she stated that she felt for the patients, but just didn't understand homosexuality. This statement got a big hand from the audience. I'd like to think that she has changed.
 
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Interesting how she goes from looking late 40's to late 60's from about 1:20 to 1:25.
 
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I want the number of her surgeon -- for a friend, yeah, for a much older friend.
 
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Gladys Knight, one of my top 5 concerts. The Clash in Toronto being #1
 
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For me it was Ike and Tina Turner and the Ikettes opening for Creedence Clearwater in 1969. I was on leave from the Army before going overseas. After Tina and the Ikettes tore up the stage no one cared about Creedence Clearwater.
 
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Gladys Knight – Just A Little [VIDEO]
October 8, 2015 Pop Music


The production video for a new Gladys Knight dance single is out this week. Via Billboard:

The upbeat track teams the seven-time Grammy Award winner with fellow Grammy winner and producer Symbolyc One, aka S1 (Kanye West’s “Power,” Beyoncé’s “Best Thing I Never Had.”). Written and vocal-produced by Knight protégé/R&B singer Avehre, “Just a Little” is the lead single from the singer’s 12th studio album. It’s due next year via the Empire-distributed label WCMC (When Creative Minds Collide). “We just wanted to have fun,” says Knight, who is also the newest ambassador for VH1’s Save the Music Foundation. “Most of the singles I’ve released prior to this were ballads. I wanted something we could dance to.”


  


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Dan  • 5 months ago 




I wanted to like that but...no.
 
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Sashineb > Dan  • 5 months ago 




I wish these singers would concentrate on doing what they do best -- R&B and real soul music. Aretha is planning another album next year, probably more "diva" stuff.
 
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TJay229 > Dan  • 5 months ago 




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Mark  • 5 months ago 




If the tune and the singing had as much pump and jump as the dancers - this would score. As it is, it didn't.
 
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CanuckDon > Mark  • 5 months ago 




When the beat of disco kicks in, it starts to take life but it doesn't last and neither does the excitement. The vocal also seems to be just ever so slightly out of sync with the rhythm...like it's trying to catch up. The entire song just doesn't feel natural.
 
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Drayfield > CanuckDon  • 5 months ago 




I agree. I felt there was something missing. This could have been a lot better if they decided which way to go - club dance or radio pop. Gladys' voice still sounds good but...
 
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Lars De > Drayfield  • 5 months ago 




It's as if 4 or 5 fragmented ideas for songs were just sewn together. And as CanuckDon said, the vocal timing was really way off.
 
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Randy Left Brooklyn > Lars De  • 5 months ago 




That's what happens When Creative Minds Collide.
 
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Lars De > Randy Left Brooklyn  • 5 months ago 




Maybe I should have stressed "fragmented ideas that seem to have nothing to do with each other and don't seem to work together at all".
 
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CanuckDon > Lars De  • 5 months ago 




I'm glad you guys noticed it as well. I started to wonder if I was losing it (more than usual) or if I wasn't up on some new trend of vocal lagging. It's really noticeable when the background vocalists sing the line "just a little". Yeah, it's just a little...off.
 
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Production Overboard > Drayfield  • 5 months ago 




It was all over the place. There were two points where the sound was such that I thought I had the video playing in two separate browsers with a slight lag. But it was just the over-production of this wannabe hit.
 
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ETownCanuck  • 5 months ago 




What song are the background dancers dancing to? Cuz I'm pretty sure it ain't this one.
 
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Green Arrow > ETownCanuck  • 5 months ago 




They're all marching to a different drummer. Er.. drum machine.
 
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Green Arrow  • 5 months ago 




Auto tune? Gladys honey, no.
 
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Duh-David > Green Arrow  • 5 months ago 




Autotune is most noticeable when it has to correct singers who are further from the pitch; at least with Gladys she's right on pitch and the computer is less noticeable. But everyone is tuned these days; the children expect it, and the labels think songs won't sell without.
 
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Lars De > Duh-David  • 5 months ago 




I hate it so much. It totally removes the human elelment of a voice and makes everyone sound so fake. Well, on the upside for many in the business today, a fake sounding voice matches their fake looking plastic face.
 
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seant426  • 5 months ago 




So the producers felt the need to take an iconic voice and synthesize it? Shame on them.
 
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olandp  • 5 months ago 




Gladys, honey, that wig, no.
 
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Joe in PA > olandp  • 5 months ago 




ah come on, be nice. LOL I thought she looked great. 70 is the new 40 don't cha know? :)
 
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olandp > Joe in PA  • 5 months ago 




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Midnight Train to Utah  • 5 months ago 




My question would be whether the message in this music is consistent with her relatively recent conversion to Mormonism, and if so, whether the message likewise extends to her erstwhile admirers in the LGBT community.
 
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TKW  • 5 months ago 




So so. I kept waiting for her to break it out. But think the remixes could be pretty good.
 
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TheManicMechanic  • 4 months ago 




Normally I like her music, especially the earlier hits, but this is a disjointed mess.
 
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normadesmond  • 5 months ago 




maybe not the best song, but her voice is still a voice to be reckoned with. her bangs need to be cut, but i love that she has not had a lift. or at least not recently.
 
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Simonious  • 5 months ago 




Oy! I've loved Gladys forever. Through I Dont Want To Do Wrong, I Heard It Through The Grapevine (she did it first), If I Were You Woman, etc so my expectations were high and I thought you queens were just being vicious but.....Gladys, honey, take that thing off your head and sing the way and what you were born to sing. This ain't you.
 
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jakeinlove  • 5 months ago 




Everyone trying to fill the void of Donna Summer and Whitney Houston....
 
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2karmanot  • 5 months ago 




ppppffffttt
 
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Richard McWolff  • 5 months ago 




I loved it. If the whole CD is like this or in this vein I'll get it. I love upbeat music. She looks really good too. Such an amazing woman and her talent doesn't deserved to be boxed into one category. She's capable of this genre in my opinion so then more power to her!
 
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Octavio  • 5 months ago 




She's still got a beautiful voice, evocative of so much great music from the 1970s. But I can't get past her having created a new niche known by many as mormon disco funk. Who the hell can dance to this "dance single" of hers? Sorry, Dick. I give it only a 23 over a 16.
 
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Jim  • 5 months ago 




I always her voice, but this song is undanceable. I saw Gladys in the 80's at the Universal Amphitheater. This was after "That's what friends are for" was released to support AIDS patients. Before the song, she stated that she felt for the patients, but just didn't understand homosexuality. This statement got a big hand from the audience. I'd like to think that she has changed.
 
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LovesIrony  • 5 months ago 




Gladys Knight, one of my top 5 concerts. The Clash in Toronto being #1
 
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For me it was Ike and Tina Turner and the Ikettes opening for Creedence Clearwater in 1969. I was on leave from the Army before going overseas. After Tina and the Ikettes tore up the stage no one cared about Creedence Clearwater.
 
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Rep. Alan Grayson has filed a House ethics complaint against Republicans Kevin McCarthy and Trey Gowdy over the never-ending Benghazi investigation. Via The Hill: “The Benghazi Committee has been a political dog-and-pony show for its entire 17-month history,” Grayson said in a statement. “It has been clear even to casual observers that the purpose of the committee was never to ...
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Ben Carson: America Needs To Stop Pretending That Every Lifestyle Has The Same Value [AUDIO]
October 8, 2015 222 Comments

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Via Mediaite: Still reeling from his recent assertion that he would “not just stand there and let [the gunman] shoot me” if he had been present for last week’s Oregon shooting, Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson moved on to a new controversial topic during an interview with SiriusXM Patriot host and frequent Fox News contributor David Webb on Wednesday. Asked ...
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TRAILER: Girls To Men
October 8, 2015 51 Comments

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Next week Britain’s Channel 4 will air the documentary Girls To Men. The Independent recaps the fascinating trailer: A British student has documented his transition from a woman to a man with a selfie every day for the past three years. Jamie Ross, 21, was 18 when he started taking testosterone (T). He decided to document his transition, ending up ...
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Gladys Knight – Just A Little [VIDEO]
October 8, 2015 35 Comments

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The production video for a new Gladys Knight dance single is out this week. Via Billboard: The upbeat track teams the seven-time Grammy Award winner with fellow Grammy winner and producer Symbolyc One, aka S1 (Kanye West’s “Power,” Beyoncé’s “Best Thing I Never Had.”). Written and vocal-produced by Knight protégé/R&B singer Avehre, “Just a Little” is the lead single from ...
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