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Donald Trump Refuses To Denounce The KKK [VIDEO]
February 28, 2016 2016 Election, Racism
Seriously. This just happened. TIME recaps the clip below:
Donald Trump on Sunday refused to condemn the Ku Klux Klan or disavow his recent endorsement by former Klansman David Duke. The Republican front runner said he didn’t know enough about Duke to publicly denounce the former KKK leader, who told his followers earlier this week that voting for anyone but Trump would be “treason to your heritage.”
“Well, just so you understand, I don’t know anything about David Duke, OK? I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists,” Trump said on CNN’s State of the Union. “I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists.” “I’m just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here,” Tapper responded.
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Jude Newton • 2 hours ago
Meanwhile under the heading of "The Internet Never Forgets" Feb 2000
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Mark > Jude Newton • 2 hours ago
With Narcissistic Personality Disorder, he'll disavow and try to lie his way out of this as well.
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Michael Rush > Jude Newton • 2 hours ago
Good find .
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Jude Newton > Michael Rush • 2 hours ago
From Twitter Justin Green @JGreenDC , I thought the whole tweet copied.
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David L. Caster > Jude Newton • 2 hours ago
Trump has discovered one thing though: the American electorate has a short memory and he uses that fact to blunt any attack he cannot bully away.
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Joe in PA > David L. Caster • 2 hours ago
oh, but wait...the media will call him out on it. /s
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David L. Caster > Joe in PA • 2 hours ago
The lapdog biting the hand that feeds it? Really? Who'd a thunk it.
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Robincho > Jude Newton • 2 hours ago
If I were Rupert Murdoch with a non-diseased brain (which is a stretch right there, I grant you), I would order all my news outlets to publish these two "contrasting" quotes from RumpDump every day from now till Cleveland...
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David L. Caster > Robincho • 2 hours ago
The Faux News audience wouldn't be able to connect the dots nor even care to.
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DaddyRay • 2 hours ago
If you are running for President of the United States then you better damn well know who David Duke and the KKK is.
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Ragnar Lothbrok > DaddyRay • an hour ago
Yep, and hope for their support.
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Jamie Brewer • 2 hours ago
Trump knows that denouncing the KKK would cost cost him the Christian vote.
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DaddyRay > Jamie Brewer • 2 hours ago
And the majority of his supporters
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jimbo65 > Jamie Brewer • 2 hours ago
Not only the Christian vote but his entire redneck base. The day he apologizes for himself or condemns anything his supporters do or say, it's all over for him.
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motordog > jimbo65 • an hour ago
Like the hyenas turning on Scar in the Lion King...
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jimbo65 > motordog • an hour ago
Ha! If only. ..
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paganguy > motordog • an hour ago
In our dreams, motordog... in our dreams.
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Joseph Miceli • 2 hours ago
Tell us again, Donald, why anyone so ill informed that they don't know who David Duke is or what the White Supremacy movement is should consider themselves qualified for the presidency? Oh, that's right! You'll "get the best people" to handle that for you. I forgot!
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Steven Leahy > Joseph Miceli • an hour ago
He's all about personal adoration and attracting votes. he doesn't care where they come from. Trump is so pathetic in that he really doesn't HAVE an ideology or morality, and what's even more pitiful is that his followers don't seem to care. It's all about narcissism and winning with him, and he'd sell out his own mother to do it.
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oikos • 2 hours ago
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Michael Rush • 2 hours ago
To qualify for the Presidency you have to know something about something , especially when you've been told repeatedly .
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Lakeview Bob > Michael Rush • 2 hours ago
My thought exact.y. It is convenient for him to claim to know nothing which is just one more reason to deplore him. I want my president to know as much as possible.
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Michael Rush > Lakeview Bob • 2 hours ago
Notice he will not respond to anything he promises to look into , when shown Obama's birth certificate he just stopped commenting on it
A report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:
His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it .
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Joseph Miceli > Michael Rush • 2 hours ago
I see the Republican party learned a lot from Hitler.
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Bj Lincoln > Joseph Miceli • 2 hours ago
Best reply!
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David L. Caster • 2 hours ago
Are we surprised?
Here is a man that has alienated half the population of the country with his xenophobic rants and pandered to the worst elements of the GOP base. Why would a KKK endorsement be any different to Trump?
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Macbill • 2 hours ago
Wait! Isn't Donald Trump very very intelligent? Doesn't he have a youuuuuge brain that keeps track of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey after 9/11, etc? I guess the Donald reads newspapers much like Sarah Palin does.
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zhera > Macbill • an hour ago
Obviously he can't say anything negative about KKK. He'd lose Breitbart!
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David L. Caster > Macbill • an hour ago
While he squats over them?
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Joseph Miceli > David L. Caster • an hour ago
He has "the Best People" do that for him.
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delk • an hour ago
Too late. Why the fuck didn't they ask the same goddamn question to Tony Perkins? How many fucking times has that piece of lying shit been on CNN?
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Chucktech > delk • 43 minutes ago
Why the fuck didn't this talking (shit)head say, with obvious incredulity, "You're telling me you are not familiar with what the KKK is?"
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Bj Lincoln • 2 hours ago
I can understand if Duke's name didn't ring a bell at that moment, but everyone knows the KKK and what they stand for.
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Chucktech > Bj Lincoln • an hour ago
Really. And to even begin to say he's unfamiliar with the KKK is simply not believable.
And this putz, Jake Tapper, why couldn't he just ask "You don't know what the KKK is?" and just leave the David Duke water-muddying out of it? Nope.
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JVB • 2 hours ago
The Republican party brought this on themselves.
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Bj Lincoln > JVB • 2 hours ago
Yes they did. Every hilarious bit of it.
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TuuxKabin > Bj Lincoln • 2 hours ago
I wish I could find some hilarity in this BJ, rather than the sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. I wish I had selective memory as Trump has, I'm almost old enough, wish it would just kick in, I'd be a happier person.
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Bj Lincoln > TuuxKabin • an hour ago
Our election and system is a global joke right now. The GOP and Trump have turned the entire process into a bad SNL skit that won't end. There is NO way Trump will become President of these United States. Even IF he becomes the nominee, which I highly doubt the RNC will allow it, he is only there to make the calm, experienced Hillary look better. He doesn't want to be President. If he did, he would NOT be saying the shit he is saying. No one honestly wants this ass as the leader of our country. I see this as the total demise of the GOP as we know it. So watching them crash and burn is funny.
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jimbo65 > Bj Lincoln • an hour ago
In the back of my mind, I keep hoping he's really a plant. That he's in the race to insure a Democratic victory. But I think he's too narcissistic to let himself be "used " that way.
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Chucktech > Bj Lincoln • an hour ago
I agree, BJ, but I really find no joy in watching them crash and burn. I find it shocking, embarrassing for our country, and not good for our system of governance, flawed though it may be.
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Bj Lincoln > Chucktech • 23 minutes ago
It is all you said it is but.....Ever since the Moral Majority took over the GOP, we have suffered as a country from bad Presidents making bad decisions based on bad advice from 'moral' people. Trying to get rid of the Right's influence has been a waste of time. The only way for the GOP to be reborn is to kill the old one off. They have been asking for it since Obama was sworn in the first time. They are doing it to themselves. The GOP has had nothing but clowns for more than a few elections and they keep losing. The more desperate they get the worse they get. It is about time to implode and start fresh with the newer less religious younger GOP that cares about the country and not just the Right.
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Dramphooey > Bj Lincoln • an hour ago
I hope you're right.
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agcons • 2 hours ago
If that's true - and I know it's not - he's as thick as a plank. I've known who David Duke was for decades: not because I'm necessarily enchanted by US politics, but because I want to know if such people pop up anywhere in the world.
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Chucktech > agcons • an hour ago
Really. Donald trump is either an ignoramus or a liar. Which is it, The Donald?
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Furface > Chucktech • 9 minutes ago
It's possible to be both.
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zhera • an hour ago
A man who doesn't know anything about David Duke or the KKK wants to be your President.
...yeah.
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Jean-Marc in Canada • an hour ago
......and remember kids, especially you there on the left, this could very well be your President if you don't vote. Simply put, if you abstain from your civic duty, you are voting for the GOP. Just keep that in mind.
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KnownDonorDad > Jean-Marc in Canada • an hour ago
But both parties are the same, who cares? /s
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Jean-Marc in Canada > KnownDonorDad • an hour ago
Sssssh, you might summon IT
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Gay Fordham Prep Grad • 2 hours ago
It is becoming more apparent that in the flyover country Trump can do no wrong. I am beginning to greatly fear he will take the prize in November.
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sword > Gay Fordham Prep Grad • an hour ago
"Flyover country" has a lot of KKK-sympathizers, it's just that it isn't fashionable any longer to wear white while you're trying to s&%t on someone.
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Joseph Miceli > Gay Fordham Prep Grad • an hour ago
Remember: hardcore Republitards are a VERY vocal minority. I still have a warm memory of the election four years ago when the conservatards thought they would make Barack Obama a one term president.
Hillary will be our next President.
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Macbill > Joseph Miceli • an hour ago
Bush's Brain 'bout had a baby on live TV when Obama won.
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Chucktech > Macbill • an hour ago
God, that was just glorious!
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BearEyes > Macbill • an hour ago
yeah ;-)
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Christian Flanagan • 2 hours ago
When all else fails, plead ignorance. Last refuge of the psychopath.
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Chris H. • 2 hours ago
Google it Asshole!!
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bryan • 2 hours ago
Unbelievable. They have also decided to make a musical about his supporters : Provisional title : Into The Hoods.
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Robincho > bryan • 2 hours ago
I'm just putting the finishing touches on my musical about the BlackBreeders™ pornsite -- "Bring In Da Boyz, Bring In Da Junk" --
but if the folks over at "Into The Hoods" need any assistance, they can count on me...
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme • an hour ago
Jake Tapper is a journalist? Come on... In any self-respecting news organization, this would have been challenged much more strongly. A line of questioning like "doesn't ignorance or lying about not knowing the KKK and white supremacy disqualify you from being president of the US?" After all, this is not Fox.
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Chucktech > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 37 minutes ago
Really! "Seriously, Mr. Trump, you are unfamiliar with the KKK?"
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Skeptical_Inquirer > Chucktech • 16 minutes ago
My followup question to Trump would be "So, you are confirming you are an idiot?"
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TexasBoy > Chucktech • 29 minutes ago
He was thinking of KFC.
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Prion • 2 hours ago
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rmthunter • 2 hours ago
That, in a nutshell, is Donald Trump: He doesn't know enough about anything to be president.
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Chucktech > rmthunter • 39 minutes ago
Baloney. He knows goddam well who David Duke is and what the Klan is.
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Mark • 2 hours ago
Ahhhh! He warms my soul with visions of a dem landslide come November....
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Joe in PA > Mark • 2 hours ago
ahhhh, a silver lining in all of this (sort of) ... I get to watch my Republican in-laws vote for this guy. In their pea-brains, hey have no choice.
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Gil • 2 hours ago
Why would anyone expect someone who grew up in Queens and attended Fordham in the Bronx and a second tier Ivy League school to know anything about the KKK....
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Gay Fordham Prep Grad > Gil • 2 hours ago
LOL, funny. I had no idea he too went to Fordham. I assure you good ol' FU is keeping silent on this one. There have been no promotional e-mails saying "Support fellow alum," etc.
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KnownDonorDad • an hour ago
Here I thought the Religious Right were the modern-day Know Nothings.
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motordog • an hour ago
You think it's scary NOW...wait until they finally decide on one candidate, stop their infighting, and start their final campaign. Everyone have your shit-proof ponchos and umbrellas ready...we are heading for (as the Chinese curse says) 'interesting times'.
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TuuxKabin • an hour ago
Maybe he means he didn't recognize David Duke since the plastic surgery, botox, implants, replants and the what's that on his head. But to not know anything about white supremacy?
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Steven Leahy > TuuxKabin • an hour ago
LOL that was quite a frightening outcome with Duke too, wasn't it?
Donald. All about the votes. At any cost.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme • an hour ago
Let's see... Watch the above video? Get my chest waxed?
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TuuxKabin > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • an hour ago
Better put some alcohol of your choice in that coffee.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > TuuxKabin • an hour ago
Thanks for the advice... I do have a bit of "medicinal" brandy on hand.
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WhoDat • 2 hours ago
Feigning ignorance, the GOP way.
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Prion • 2 hours ago
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Prion • 2 hours ago
,,.
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TheManicMechanic • 2 hours ago
Anything for votes.
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Steven Leahy > TheManicMechanic • an hour ago
That sums him up in a nutshell.
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TexasBoy • 2 hours ago
Of course he knows nothing about the KKK or David Duke. It isn't part of the "It's all about Me!" bubble where Trump lives.
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Little Kiwi • 32 minutes ago
not a shock. Trump also gave a pass to the racist thugs who beat up that latino man after one of his rallies.
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RainbowPhoenix • an hour ago
It's the KKK, one of THE defining symbols of racism in America. If anything should go in the automatic reject pile, its them.
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Prion • 2 hours ago
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TexasBoy • 2 hours ago
A box of rocks would be a better president than Trump.
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paganguy > TexasBoy • an hour ago
Hell, even an empty box would be a better president. (I didn't say just a rock because they'd be pretty much indistinguishable - both dense and capable of inflicting yuuuge amounts of damage.)
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justmeeeee • 16 minutes ago
Look at those raccoon eyes!
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Skeptical_Inquirer • 17 minutes ago
This from the man who usually claims to know EVERYTHING.
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TexasBoy • 22 minutes ago
Donald, Donald, he's our man! He'll represent the Ku Klux Klan.
And sadly, he still has followers.
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2patricius2 • 27 minutes ago
"Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about science book
Don't know much about the French I took...
"Don't know much geography
Don't know much trigonometry
Don't know much about algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for..."
Sounds like the Donald is singing Sam Cook's song...
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bkmn • 2 hours ago
OK then lets get a pic of him hanging with the supremacist crowd so we have a picture to use in the general.
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Gil • 2 hours ago
Slightly OT, but who is auditing his returns ? The IRS, the state, or his own financial people ? ? Has anyone really looked into this and is it a big lie ?
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February 27, 2016 2016 Election, News
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If Donald Trump is good enough for a grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, well he’s good enough for the governor of New Jersey. Days after the Klan’s former leader David Duke urged his followers to back the real estate mogul, Chris Christie jumped on the hate wagon. In doing so Friday, Christie ate many of his campaign-trail words aimed at the loudmouth GOP front-runner.
Christie said he made his decision to endorse Trump after consulting with his wife and kids. He called the billionaire businessman and offered to travel with him to Texas, Christie said. “(He) is the person who will go to Washington, D.C., and be able to absolutely turn the place around,” the governor gushed. Trump will also make sure Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton “does not get within 10 miles of the White House,” Christie added.
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Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
He's angling for the AG slot. And if that isn't enough to scare the shit out of you, I don't know what would or could... other than "President Trump."
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canoebum > Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
"He's angling for the AG slot." Or to replace Scalia. Let that thought roll around in your head for a few minutes.
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safari2bongaloo > canoebum • a day ago
My head's not large enough. (Okay, that's my last poke at his mass.)
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JulieBL > canoebum • 21 hours ago
He wouldn't last too long on the SCOTUS.
On second thought... that intellectual imbecile sitting next to RBG? oy
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Librarykid > canoebum • a day ago
Oy Vey!
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Palmer > Librarykid • 21 hours ago
... iz meer!
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KCMC > Librarykid • 4 hours ago
wie schmerz
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teeveedub > Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
You never know. The Department of Justice might be on the list of those unnecessary government bureaucracies that the teavangelicals are so keen on getting rid of. There might not even be an attorney general.
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Lumpy Gaga > teeveedub • a day ago
Nah. Still need certain tools for enemy-punishing.
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Stogiebear > Lumpy Gaga • a day ago
Ok, he could be the Secretary General for Orthodoxy and Dogma.
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another_steve > Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
There was some speculation weeks ago that Christie may have been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Bridgegate affair. I understand that a request was filed by media people asking the judge to unseal the relevant document. I've heard nothing more since then and don't know the status of the request.
Wouldn't that be lovely?
Yet another Republican Governor in prison?
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TuuxKabin > another_steve • a day ago
To quote Judy Tenuta . . . It could happen.
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another_steve > TuuxKabin • a day ago
So who cares, so what...
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2karmanot > TuuxKabin • 2 hours ago
I swear I saw Trump get pulled into Crispy Creme's gravitational pull...It could happen
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Jamie_Johnson > another_steve • 21 hours ago
And if he's named AG, he can withdraw his own case. Or get a pardon from Hair Hitler.
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justmeeeee > Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
It almost doesn't matter. If the trumpster is elected, the country is down the terlet anyway, as Archie Bunker would say.
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safari2bongaloo > Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
That must be a large slot to fill.
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Librarykid > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
Christie would certainly be the large slug to fill it.
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Jamie_Johnson > Librarykid • 21 hours ago
I think of Christie as more of a plug, but slug works, too.
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chicago dyke > Jamie_Johnson • 7 hours ago
ewww, just ewww to both of you! /brainbleach
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Todd20036 > Jamie_Johnson • 20 hours ago
Sadly, I always considered Krispie one of the saner GOP candidates.
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marshlc > Todd20036 • 15 hours ago
Yeah, he's the enemy of all things progressive and from all accounts a very dirty fighter, but at least he's a normal politician - someone who understands that you don't bring the entire apparatus of government down and still expect to run a country. With both Cruz and Trump, who knows what they'd do? They don't even seem to understand what the rules are, much less be willing to play by them.
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TuuxKabin > Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
There's nothing angular about him and there ain't no slot big enough.
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Lumpy Gaga > Jamie_Johnson • a day ago
Agreed. I'd rather have him running Health than be AG.
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Dan McPeek > Lumpy Gaga • a day ago
Running and health in the same sentence as Chris Crisco...now there's a hoot!
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TuuxKabin > Dan McPeek • a day ago
Both yours and Lumpy Gaga's use of 'running' I read as ruining.
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PLAINTOM > Jamie_Johnson • 18 hours ago
Maybe he just needs a POTUS who has already offered him a pardon.
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Michael Rush • a day ago
Ted Cruz is an obstructionist , Chris Christie is just an obstruction .
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safari2bongaloo > Michael Rush • a day ago
He's just a reflection of his arteries.
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ohbear1957 > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
. . . lined with tiny orange cones of cholesterol.
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Kissmagrits > Michael Rush • a day ago
But a useful obstruction - - when the next coastal flooding occurs, just think how many sandbags he could replace.
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safari2bongaloo > Kissmagrits • a day ago
None. Fat floats. Out to sea.
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Homo Erectus > Michael Rush • 20 hours ago
Speaking of Ted............
http://patch.com/florida/newpo...
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 21 hours ago
Thumbnail
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BeccaM > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 21 hours ago
Perfect.
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Sam_Handwich • a day ago
happening now....
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Treant > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
His voters will swallow anything he inserts into them, so it really doesn't matter that much.
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Lumpy Gaga > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
Trump is Trump. Rubio doesn't smell any better today to people voting Trump in the primaries.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Sam_Handwich • 21 hours ago
It may have some resonance outside the fact-free zone.
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Ninja0980 > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
How exactly is this a victory for Rubio?
Many people view it as people wanting to sue someone one for their failures and take responsibility for their actions.
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Sam_Handwich > Ninja0980 • a day ago
i presume because Rubio brought up the topic at the debate and now Trump feels pressured into making excuses to his supporters
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TuuxKabin > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
At least 'it's out there now' and open to more explanations, not that he'll have much more to say about it. The more exposure it gets, hopefully the better it may damage him.
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Ninja0980 > TuuxKabin • a day ago
I want it to be after he gets the nomination.
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Sam_Handwich > Ninja0980 • a day ago
I think i read yesterday that the fraud trial brought by the state of NY is scheduled to being in May. i'm not sure about the class action suits in other states
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Ninja0980 > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
Hopefully he'll have the nomination wrapped up by then.
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Sam_Handwich > Ninja0980 • a day ago
he really has it wrapped up now
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TuuxKabin > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
And the only thing that can stop him is an indictment.
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Sam_Handwich > TuuxKabin • a day ago
or an Aqua Net inhalation overdose
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TuuxKabin > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
twue, twue, hopefully too close to a flame.
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TampaDink > TuuxKabin • 20 hours ago
I should've scrolled down before posting. Great minds & all of that. ;-p
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TuuxKabin > TampaDink • 20 hours ago
There's always 'that'.
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TampaDink > Sam_Handwich • 20 hours ago
Or an Aqua Net flash fire.
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Ginger Snap > TampaDink • 18 hours ago
You know with all the warnings on hairspray about use near an open flame or while smoking g so many drag queen s should have gone up in Fla.es myself included. I think is a false warning a conspiracy probably by the government to get you to quit smoking. How was that for my GOP paranoia conspiracy? LOL
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TampaDink > Ginger Snap • 19 minutes ago
Well played. Thank goodness that hasn't been a problem.
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Todd20036 > TuuxKabin • 20 hours ago
In the general maybe, but for the GOTP nod? Nope, won't damage him there.
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KnownDonorDad > Ninja0980 • 21 hours ago
He might come in third place again, maybe second!
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Ninja0980 • a day ago
O/T but got into an arguments with some Bernie supporters.
I would prefer someone else other then Clinton to be the frontrunner but I'll be damned if I let Trump or any other Republican fill 1-4 seats on SCOTUS, not to mention have possible full reign of the White House, Senate and Congress by sitting out.
It's truly amazing how some think Donald Trump getting elected and driving the country off a cliff is what is needed in order to make the country more progressive.
Has never worked and never will, otherwise Kansas would be the bluest state in the country.
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Sam_Handwich > Ninja0980 • a day ago
i don't think Bernie has a path to win sufficient delegates
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Lazycrockett > Sam_Handwich • 20 hours ago
I think that once became more and more obvious that Trump was going to nab the GOP nom, a lot of dems and liberals realized they couldn't take a chance on a unvetted candidate in the GE.
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Ninja0980 > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
He doesn't, and if he was so inspiring, then why isn't our base coming out?
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Sam_Handwich > Ninja0980 • a day ago
he speaks for a segment of the party in the same way Dennis Kucinich did in 08....or Ron Paul with republicans.
at this point i think Hillary is better off with Bernie in the race
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TuuxKabin > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
We're all better off with Bernie in the race. Keep driving the Hills a bit to the left.
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NowAnAgnostic > Ninja0980 • 20 hours ago
One only has to look back to the 2000 election, and the disastrous Dubya appointments to the Supreme Court.
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That_Looks_Delicious • 21 hours ago
It looks like it's Trump after Tuesday. The latest polls in the Super Tuesday states have him up 23 points in Virginia, 21 points in Massachusetts, 26 in Georgia, 13 in Alabama, 8 in Oklahoma, etc., and one poll even has him tied with Cruz in Texas so he might even take Texas. After that he'll be unstoppable for the GOP nomination.
I admit I was one of the ones who was laughing the hardest at Trumpalooza back in the summer, but yeah, this isn't funny anymore.
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teeveedub • a day ago
In 15 years of living in NYC, I probably bought the Daily News twice. Maybe three times.
But if I were still living there, I'd probably be buying it every day, just to support their new lefty editorial position (and their sense of humor).
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Robert Conner • a day ago
"The Ku Klux Klan rolled into Hamilton Township riding in buses and Model T's, wearing their full regalia of white robes and pointed hoods, singing hymns and preaching hate.
They were 10,000 strong, and as they paraded down the rural roads of Yardville and Hamilton Square and Mercerville they got a scattering of boos and angry glares, but also quite a few cheers. Some farmers' wives even brought pitchers of ice water to refresh the thirsty marchers who called themselves the Knights of the Invisible Empire.
From there, it was directly to Springdale Park off South Broad Street for a day of lectures, initiations, 500 baptisms and two Klan weddings. Church and family was one theme of the day. So was "100 percent Americanism, the superiority of the white man and the evils of race mixing.
It was Labor Day, 1924, and the Klan was no longer a silly bunch of bedsheet-wearers who inspired only laughs. It was a force to be reckoned with in New Jersey and across the United States."
http://www.capitalcentury.com/...
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JCF > Robert Conner • 21 hours ago
At the time I lived in Central Pennsylvania (mid-90s), I learned that, in the 1920s, the city w/ the highest per capita Klan membership was Altoona. The hills of Central PA were frequently used for highly-visible cross-burnings: very scary (and not ancient history). I'm sure Trump is getting a LOT of support in that region now. [Personal story: when I moved to Huntingdon (county-seat) in 1994, I went down to the courthouse to register to vote. Having passed the Republican HQ en route, I mentioned it to the registrar, and asked if she knew where the Democratic HQ was. She gave me this dumbfounded look I will NEVER forget---like I could NOT have asked her a more bizarre question...]
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Oscarlating Wildely > JCF • 20 hours ago
...those of us in the Philly area always did want that part to become its own state to get away from us.....
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Good Shot Green > Oscarlating Wildely • 19 hours ago
I don't think so. That'd be more Republican electoral votes. Better to keep them in a state that hasn't gone red since 1988.
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Ninja0980 > JCF • 19 hours ago
We have them in Upstate NY, not to mention the Mormons... bleh.
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Homo Erectus > Robert Conner • 20 hours ago
I grew up in Cape May County, NJ in the '50s. In the summer, the family would go to the revival meetings at the Methodist campground in Erma. During the service, after it got dark, a large contingent of Klansmen in white robes and hoods would appear and stand in the back. They never said or did anything. I assume it was just a show of strength. They scared the bejeezus out of me. One night as we were going home, dad said he thought he recognized "Frank". Mom said she knew who all those guys were. When dad asked how she said "Just look around - those men are the husbands of every woman sitting alone with their kids."
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Robincho > Homo Erectus • 18 hours ago
Erma? Sounds more like Ermagerd...
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Homo Erectus > Robincho • 18 hours ago
Nope - it's a real place just north of Cold Springs.
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KnownDonorDad > Robert Conner • 21 hours ago
My dad has strong memories of seeing the Klan demonstrating in public - I come from a Catholic family in the New Jersey/Pennsylvania area - and he still bristles whenever any report of them comes on the TV.
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CherryTheTart > KnownDonorDad • 6 hours ago
KKK burned a cross is a small park across from my house when my Father was four years old. We were Catholics and olive skinned Italian immigrants.
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ohbear1957 • a day ago
"Trump will also make sure Democratic presidential candidate Hillary
Clinton “does not get within 10 miles of the White House,” Christie
added."
I have a question for Christie. Based on your experience in traffic management, how many orange cones would you need to make a 10-mile Hillary-free Zone around the White House?
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Lumpy Gaga > ohbear1957 • a day ago
The GOP is currently successfully executing a "traffic study" around the Supreme Court.
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GC > Lumpy Gaga • a day ago
Gives "Republican gridlock" a whole new meaning!
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TampaDink • 21 hours ago
I'm late to this thread....but how could trumpet prevent Sec. Clinton from getting within 10 miles of the White House when she owns a home less than 2 miles to the NW of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.?
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grada3784 > TampaDink • 20 hours ago
Eminent Domain. He'll build a hotel there.
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TampaDink > grada3784 • 20 hours ago
It will be YUGE!!!!!
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grada3784 > TampaDink • 20 hours ago
The King of Trump's hotels?
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TampaDink > grada3784 • 20 hours ago
Or maybe he'll name this one in honor of "the 3rd lady".
"The Trump Queen of Tarts Super Yuge Luxury Hotel".
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grada3784 > TampaDink • 20 hours ago
Or maybe a future son? Like the Jack F. Trump hotel.
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TampaDink > grada3784 • 23 minutes ago
Possibly. Ya never know how many trumpettes wife #4 might want to spawn.
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That_Looks_Delicious > TampaDink • 21 hours ago
He'll sue her. He's really rich. This is tremendous.
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TampaDink > That_Looks_Delicious • 20 hours ago
"She is a loser. Very weak. Terrible"
He speaks in short spurts, the way that Charlotte (of "Charlotte's Web") spun her messages praising Wilbur. Although Charlotte used more multi-syllable words.
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CraigNJ > TampaDink • 17 hours ago
Martial law
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Sam_Handwich • a day ago
oh MAN!
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ohbear1957 > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
The Lardy and the Trump.
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Librarykid > ohbear1957 • 21 hours ago
Or Trump and the Lump
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TampaDink > Sam_Handwich • 20 hours ago
Trumpet learned from his "ordeal" at the event where Caribou Bimbo endorsed him & wouldn't shut the fuck up.
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That_Looks_Delicious > TampaDink • 20 hours ago
Epic fail and STILL the funniest thing that has come out of the 2016 race. It's telling that most of the comedians (Colbert, Maher, etc.) who went to town on that speech had to actually play back portions of the speech for their audience because if you didn't hear it with your own ears you wouldn't believe it.
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TampaDink > That_Looks_Delicious • 20 hours ago
I know. She was "on"....we just have no confirmation of what she was "on".
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Jean-Marc in Canada > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
"Hail Hydra"
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James • 20 hours ago
Desperate last-ditch attempt to remain in politics by a guy who has effectively 0 chance of doing so other than by weaseling a position out of someone who might.
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JCF • 21 hours ago
As I said yesterday: WTF happened to THIS guy???
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > JCF • 21 hours ago
He wants the 2nd place on the ticket. In the event the Republicans are elected to the WH, he'll be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
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JCF > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 20 hours ago
...in which case, he'd be between "a heartbeat away from the Presidency" and (more likely) a missed heartbeat away from the grave.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > JCF • 20 hours ago
If Veep Christie has a fatal heart attack learning that der Führer Trumph just died, Paul Ryan becomes President.
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Max_1 > JCF • 18 hours ago
What happened?
BOUGHT AND PAID FOR...
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ceeenbee • a day ago
What a pathetic fool he has turned out to be. Petty, vindictive, small (in integrity) and ultimately an ass-kissing sycophant.
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Lumpy Gaga > ceeenbee • a day ago
I liked that "beaten bully" look in his eyes as he stood astride Trump at the announcement like another trophy wife.
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KnownDonorDad > Lumpy Gaga • 21 hours ago
I know you meant "aside," but Christie astride Trump is a pretty terrifying image. ;)
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Lumpy Gaga > KnownDonorDad • 20 hours ago
Pizzamandias
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David Milley > ceeenbee • a day ago
Welcome to New Jersey, where we've seen this about him for a looonnggg time. I just wish he'd go back to eating billy goats under his bridge.
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Gil > ceeenbee • a day ago
I kinda think Chris is going to be on the Republican's shit list now...
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Lumpy Gaga > Gil • a day ago
Ooh. Are there any Trump-Christie hug pics?
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Robincho > ceeenbee • 18 hours ago
I'd kiss Christie's ass, but I don't have all day...
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grada3784 • 20 hours ago
I see that our absentee governor has been throwing stones at Florida's absentee Senator.
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Robert Adams • 21 hours ago
A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
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Rex • a day ago
Christie has to eat his words, not like there's anything he won't eat.
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Octavio • a day ago
The Daily News front page is the only acknowledgement I've seen of the KKK connection to Trump. Every other endorsement for Trump has been big front page news for 12 seconds, but the "good news" about David Duke and his prancing white sheets endorsing Trump has barely been mentioned. Or have I just been watching/reading the wrong media sources?
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ceeenbee > Octavio • a day ago
The dems are, wisely, not making to much of this. Just waiting until herr donny gets the nomination and then they will pummel him with the association.
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Robert Conner > Octavio • 21 hours ago
Confusing, n'est pas?
The GOP base is racist to the core and the GOP runs candidates like "author" and "business executive" Herman Cain and neurosurgeon Ben Carson who seem to have dedicated their lives to making black men look like complete morons (technically, a mental age of 7-12 years) every time they open their mouth.
It's a win-win. The GOP gets to be the 'party of Lincoln' and demonstrate that even black 'high achievers' are mentally incompetent at one stroke. By the time the Klansmen come out of the woods, it's almost starting to look reasonable.
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TuuxKabin > Octavio • a day ago
The day after Duke's endorsement I read something on HuffyPosts, Al Jazeera and SFGate. It's all faded into the past now.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > TuuxKabin • 21 hours ago
It can and should be kept on ice until after the nomination. Then, it can be exposed for its smelly self for all to sniff.
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safari2bongaloo • a day ago
Right after Sandy, people here in the midwest thought that Christie could be a "different kind" of Republican that would reach across the aisle and be a unifier. He really had an opportunity to be seen, at least, as a middle of the road candidate. Then he spoke...
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Prion • a day ago
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grada3784 > Prion • 20 hours ago
You'd almost think we had Marco Rubio as the governor here in NJ.
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Homo Erectus > grada3784 • 17 hours ago
We won't see Marco-the-child-senator until the March 15 Primary.
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justmeeeee • a day ago
Fat ass.
Sorry, couldn't help it.
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bkmn • a day ago
You only trust Xtie as far as you can throw him.
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safari2bongaloo > bkmn • a day ago
Do I get to use heavy equipment?
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Bluto > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
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pj > Bluto • a day ago
id suggest one made out of steel
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Stogiebear > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
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Homo Erectus > Stogiebear • 17 hours ago
Jesus fucking christ!
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Furface > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
Trebuchet, perhaps?
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Treant > Furface • a day ago
Just to annoy my Francophile husband, I always refer to that device as a "tree-bucket."
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canoebum > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
If it worked for a car...
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Good Shot Green > bkmn • 19 hours ago
Well, with your bad knee you shouldn't throw anybody.
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chicago dyke > Good Shot Green • 7 hours ago
"well, you're fucked."
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bkmn > Good Shot Green • 16 hours ago
I have two perfectly good knee replacements...now I just have to deal with my elbows.
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perversatile > Good Shot Green • 17 hours ago
"You know what your problem is?"
"Chasity Pariah"
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Ginger Snap • 18 hours ago
Well when it comes right down to it bullies and theives stick together like flies on shit.
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Christian Flanagan • 21 hours ago
It's odd that the last debate is the first we've heard about Trump University. He's involved with a lot of sleezy marketing.
http://saltydroid.info/trump-n...
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BeccaM • 21 hours ago
It's an old saying, but a true one: You can always judge a man by the friends he keeps.
In this case, the road goes both ways.
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Lazycrockett • a day ago
I do think its strange that all this anti trump information had been circulating around the media for months, years, decades even, but nothing is mentioned on CNN, or MSNBC or any other station for that matter until Rubio mentions Trump University and then suddenly MSNBC switched to attack mode. I know I know $$$$.
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Lumpy Gaga • a day ago
Christie ate
I see what you did there.
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popebuck1 • 21 hours ago
I looked at Christie right after the endorsement was announced - he stood there smirking as Trump ripped into Marco Rubio, and all I could think of was Scott Farkis, the bully from "A Christmas Story," and his little toad of a sidekick.
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Cara Rosenberg • a day ago
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Joe knows who I am. • 17 hours ago
It's just remotely possible, that in the eyes of some Republicans this is the kiss of death for Trump, and Christie knew that.
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Skeptical_Inquirer • 18 hours ago
OT but fitting well with the craziness that is the GOP:
Some Florida voters believe Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer. Of course he's not as he's way too young but it seems people just believe anything.
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/20...
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Dreaming Vertebrate • 19 hours ago
A man, a Klan?? - not a Plan?
Thanks for messing up a perfectly good palindrome Daily News!
A man, a Klan, a canal - Kanama!
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Skeptical_Inquirer • a day ago
Sadly, the National Enquirer has become Trumptacular with its soft glove treatment of Trump while doing crazy stuff with the other candidates. (I don't buy them, I just like to thumb through them).
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TampaDink > Skeptical_Inquirer • 20 hours ago
Seems that so many media outlets are cowering in fear of one of trumpet's famous lawsuits...and/or his plans for libel laws.
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LovesIrony • 21 hours ago
As a former first lady Hillary will often be within 10 miles of the White House and you can't shut down all the bridges to prevent her
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Outlaw Woman • 19 hours ago
The only difference between Chris Christie and Donald Trump, is that Donald Trump had the foresight to wear a girdle in public.
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bob • a day ago
This fat mess already has a job that he's failing at, but has to go to texas to see if he can mooch off trump.
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Lumpy Gaga > bob • a day ago
I know, right? He had to be shamed into leaving NH (because, you know, WATER) and with his withdrawal, I thought our rogue governor to the East would get back to work. Nnnnnope.
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Michael Rush • a day ago
He might be right , it depends on how you define " turn the place around "
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BearEyes > Michael Rush • a day ago
I read that as run the place into the ground.
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2karmanot • 2 hours ago
Pandering Pig wants to be Attorney General.
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TuuxKabin • a day ago
Trump put out the trough for him on Thursday when they had lunch together. Maybe he see's Trump as his meal ticket. And what better place to endorse Trump than Texas?
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Sam_Handwich • a day ago
and now this
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That_Looks_Delicious > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
Trump accusing other people of "tremendous hostility." Shameless irony so thick you could build an off-ramp with it.
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JCF > That_Looks_Delicious • a day ago
...LACK of self-awareness as empty as a black hole!
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Todd20036 > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
Keep in mind, quite a few people think Kagan should have recused herself from the DOMA verdict because she attended a gay wedding, along with RBG.
Frankly, yes, Trump is 1920s and early 1930s Hitler, and it is up to us Americans to make sure he never gets a change to become late 1930s Hitler.
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JT > Todd20036 • 18 hours ago
Funny how Scalia and Thomas never had a conflict of interest, even in Bush v Gore when their relatives were working for Bush.
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Gene > JT • 18 hours ago
Thomas has had so many it denies belief
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Gil > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
When someone says " To be perfectly honest " or words to that effect, they are generally lying...And there's that "summary judgement" thing he keeps relying on... Does he even really know what that means ? I'll give him this though, a Spanish Hispanic judge can be rough...
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Todd20036 > Gil • 18 hours ago
To be perfectly honest, I need to be intoxicated.
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perversatile > Gil • 9 hours ago
-or "Can I be frank with you?"
All I can think of is Frank Sinatra slapping Mia Farrow around after dinner at Trader Vic's, because Mia wasn't wearing panties and she accidentally flashed her kitty at a bus boy.
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chicago dyke > perversatile • 8 hours ago
never heard that story before.
but i hafta say: i am a woman who doesn't wear panties. not unless i have to, if you know what i mean. i don't wear bras either. still, thinking of the clothes for women in that period? i'd have put a pair on if i'd been going out in public with ole blue eyes. a) he's one of those kind of guys and if you're dating him you should know that and 2) of course there will be people all over the place looking at you, maybe even taking pics.
if she meant to piss him off, it worked. but slapping a bitch around in public is fugly for both the man and the bitch. not a Win.
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perversatile > chicago dyke • 2 hours ago
Keepin your ''downstairs'' air conditioned
is one of life's better simple pleasues.
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Robincho > Gil • 19 hours ago
He's been crowing about summary judgment since the days of SPY Magazine calling him a short-fingered vulgarian. That's been a while; and no, he does not know what summary judgment means...
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another_steve > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
Lol. As if any Hispanic person in her/his right mind would vote for the bigot.
What group is next?
If he insults my Yiddisha mishpacha, I'll go ballistic on him.
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That_Looks_Delicious > another_steve • 21 hours ago
There will be a few. There's always a few of those.
But Trump has united the hispanic community in the USA like nothing else before. Every single hispanic celebrity from all across the poltiical spectrum, Mexican-, Cuban-, Puerto Rican-, Colombian-Americans and from everywhere else, gay, straight, liberal, conservative -Carlos Santana, Ricky Martin, Gloria Estefan, Julio Iglesias, Marc Anthony, Sofia Vergara, etc., etc., etc.- They all hate his fucking guts and have said so.
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another_steve > That_Looks_Delicious • 21 hours ago
"Today, 8 in 10 Hispanic voters have an unfavorable view of Trump. That includes more than 7 in 10 who have a “very unfavorable” impression of him, which is more than double the percentage of any other major candidate.
Those findings compare with a Univision survey taken around the time of Trump’s announcement last summer, when just more than 7 in 10 had a negative view of him and fewer than 6 in 10 said they had a “very unfavorable” impression.
Should Trump become the Republican nominee, his current low standing among Hispanic voters could jeopardize the party’s hopes of winning the general election in November."
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
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Sporkfighter > another_steve • 18 hours ago
Hopefully, they'll realize that Trump really does represent the Republican party, he just doesn't know how to smile, shake your hand and stab you in the back all at the same time like Cruz et al.
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Adam > Sporkfighter • 10 hours ago
It's too late. Polling shows him in great position to win the nomination, with plenty of breathing room.
Which is why Congressional Republicans are already planning ads attacking him to distance themselves from him, and why there are meetings of conservative donors planning on launching an unnamed third-party candidacy to further deny him the White House so they can have a fairer go at it in 2020.
Trump is really an enormous gift to the Democrats. His political talents are limited to demagoguery, which does not play well in a general election.
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MaryOGrady > another_steve • 21 hours ago
He already did. He went to a conference of Jewish Republicans and unloaded a series of offensive stereotypes on them. If memory serves, that was right after he mocked a reporter for a congenital physical handicap.
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another_steve > MaryOGrady • 20 hours ago
Thanks for the tip, Mary. I had missed that.
Through the miracle of YouTube, I found this 9-minute recap. If readers here have the stomach for it, it's informative.
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Stephen Elliot Phillips > another_steve • 20 hours ago
I dont want to watch trump. But the israeli govt under NUTanyahu doesnt want peace. Or they want peace only on their terms. And the israeli govt wants our military money to have it their way.
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another_steve > Stephen Elliot Phillips • 20 hours ago
No one in her or his right mind envisions a lasting peace there without the end of the illegal settlements and absent a two-state solution. But many, I suspect most, Israelis see the decades-long conflict as an existential crisis -- hence the current government there and its intransigence.
Particularly disturbing to me is the disgusting symbiotic relationship between the Christian Far Right in the US and the State of Israel.
The Christian Far Right hates Jews but wants to preserve Israel as a runway for Air Jesus, when Jesus returns there to bring eternal Happy Hour to the righteous and to smite all Jews who don't accept him as Messiah. Israel knows this but nevertheless kisses the asses of the current congressional leadership because the Republicans keep the checks coming.
It's such a disgusting and foul relationship that every time I think about it, I want to take a shower afterwards.
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Oscarlating Wildely > another_steve • 19 hours ago
The Christian Far Right hates Jews but wants to preserve Israel as a runway for Air Jesus... Air White Jesus, of course.
And smite would be nice. Some charming writing on the topic-- and yes, we Queer Jews get the Rapture *and* Sodom and Gomorrah Double damnation! Bring the martinis!
"Those Jews who have not accepted Christ are just as lost as any heathen on the face of the earth. In fact, they are probably more lost, for they have had more light and more opportunity than anyone else. Jesus said it would be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than it would be for the Jews who rejected him, and who rejected his disciples."
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Robincho > Oscarlating Wildely • 19 hours ago
"Fasten your seat belts. It's gonna be a bumpy landing." -- Margo Channing, almost
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Stephen Elliot Phillips > Robincho • 16 hours ago
ah margo! What a fabulous character portrayed by miss davis in probably her best performance
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Robincho > Stephen Elliot Phillips • 12 hours ago
Perfect rôle, perfect actress, perfect time... you really can't
ask for anything more... ;-)
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Librarykid > Oscarlating Wildely • 2 hours ago
It is the far right in the Christian US and the far right Ultra Orthodox in Israel who are joined in an unholy union and sharing only a hair's width of overlap in the Venn Diagram of their apocalyptic visions.
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Stephen Elliot Phillips > another_steve • 16 hours ago
I totally agree with you steve. Its a disgusting alliance. right wing christians are only interested in israel as a portal for the 2nd coming.
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sword > another_steve • an hour ago
The GOPTP Evangelicals are antisemitic...they just want Israel to survive long enough for the Rapture to occur. And then, to hell with the Jews.
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Eddi Haskell > another_steve • 13 hours ago
He also told the same group, Jewish Republicans, that "if anyone knows how to renegotiate an agreement this group does". What a stereotype! That is so offensive its funny.
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another_steve > Eddi Haskell • 2 hours ago
It's not hyperbole to say that Trump is employing the same rhetoric as Hitler. The stereotypes are so ingrained in some folks that they don't even view them as stereotypes.
His overarching message to the Jewish Republicans was "You Jews are connivers and negotiators by nature. You don't take shit from the weak suckers."
As you say, Eddi, so offensive it's almost funny.
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Todd20036 > another_steve • 18 hours ago
A few will. A few gay people will vote for Trump too.
But most Latinos/Hispanics etc. won't vote for Cruz or Rubio, at least not based on the idea that Rafael and Rubot are Cuban. But that's because Cubans have a MUCH easier time immigrating.
In any case, all minorities have their share of quislings.
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Ray Taylor > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
Definitely something tRump would gleefully do.
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olandp > Sam_Handwich • 15 hours ago
What judge wouldn't be hostile to him?
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Oscarlating Wildely > Sam_Handwich • 20 hours ago
Next up in Trump land: Attacks on ALL universities. Said the man who went to Penn.
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BudClark • a day ago
This is absolutely sickening, AND frightening. Soon they will be gassing up the ovens again.
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safari2bongaloo > BudClark • a day ago
Those that aren't weak will probably be assigned wall-building duty first
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pj > BudClark • a day ago
we would be the first to go
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KnownDonorDad > pj • 21 hours ago
If it were to come to that, I have to borrow a Christopher Hitchens quote (said to Ayaan Hirsi Ali at a conference in 2007):
"And though it's not usual for me to be able to speak for the majority, I think I can say that, Ayaan, there isn't anyone in this room who would't very proudly stand between you and anyone who wished you harm."
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Gustav2 > BudClark • 19 hours ago
Now if "W" would have the guts to call them the Axis of Western Evil.
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Todd20036 > BudClark • a day ago
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Sam_Handwich • a day ago
that old reptile JAN BREWER also endorsed Trump
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That_Looks_Delicious > Sam_Handwich • a day ago
She's another one from the same sewer that hatched Le Pen and Trump. Doesn't surprise me.
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Librarykid > That_Looks_Delicious • 2 hours ago
Speaking of sewers, why does this man resemble old man Cruz? Is this a result of the hatred inside of both?
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Oscarlating Wildely > Sam_Handwich • 20 hours ago
Oh, she slithered out from under her hot rock of a desert home to share her insights with us? How fortunate for us all. Isn't there a cactus that is missing her somewhere?
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secretlab > Oscarlating Wildely • 19 hours ago
Jan spends much of her time these days having her wrinkles regrooved.
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Robincho > Sam_Handwich • 19 hours ago
She has been identified as the source of brewer's yeast infection...
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Jimmie Z > Sam_Handwich • 19 hours ago
Her beautician could have clued her in to moisturizer, so there's that -- for her to be hateful.
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Librarykid > Jimmie Z • 2 hours ago
Maybe her beautician hated her, too.
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LovesIrony > Sam_Handwich • 21 hours ago
I think she gave my favorite debate performance of all time
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teeveedub > LovesIrony • 21 hours ago
The use of the word "performance" is very generous on your part.
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bkmn • a day ago
We need to work our asses off this election kids.
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Todd20036 > bkmn • a day ago
Why bother? Hillary or Bernie is the same.
Right?
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KnownDonorDad > Todd20036 • 21 hours ago
"Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."
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Bob Conti > KnownDonorDad • 21 hours ago
And I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
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Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild > Todd20036 • 4 hours ago
Correction: Hillary or Bernie, either one is better than any Republican. Much better.
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BudClark • a day ago
If you "don't 'do' politics," you have no one to blame but yourself when the midnight knock on the door comes. Hitler was legitimately elected according to the laws of the Weimar Republic. If Trump is elected, he will likely reduce most of the world to a smoking radioactive ruin inside of a year. At the very least, if you don't want to see soup lines and MORE people living and dying on the streets than there already are, STOP HIM NOW.
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MaryOGrady > BudClark • 21 hours ago
I forget who said, "You may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you."
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Lumpy Gaga > BudClark • a day ago
Marco Rubio will save us with his flop sweat!
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William > BudClark • 20 hours ago
Hitler was not elected to anything, he was appointed.
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Oscarlating Wildely > William • 19 hours ago
So true-- and no-one stood up to stop those who backed him until it was way too late.
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Lazycrockett > BudClark • a day ago
The night of the long knives.
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safari2bongaloo • a day ago
Is there some part of the planet we can export all these people? Since global warming isn't real to them, I suggest an island that is slightly above sea level.
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Yixing's Fluffer > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
The residents of the Maldives can move here and we'll ship these guys over there. We'll even make regular shipments of Oxycontin for the addicts.
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Stephen Elliot Phillips > safari2bongaloo • 20 hours ago
Florida is closer and it will be submerged too
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Miji > Stephen Elliot Phillips • 20 hours ago
Florida has an escape route. Maybe Easter island; I hear there are no trees to build boats.
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Sporkfighter > safari2bongaloo • 18 hours ago
The Empty Quarter. One thousand km long, 500 km wide. That would do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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That_Looks_Delicious > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
Funny you should mention that. Trump has actually been buying up some properties in the Maldives, which is one of the island nations that scientists fear will completely disappear with rising sea levels. He wouldn't even need to go house-shopping.
http://www.maldivestraveller.c...
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safari2bongaloo > That_Looks_Delicious • 21 hours ago
If his past is any guide, he'll spend the money he raised to invest in those properties to cover other debts and then tell the investors that an act of god is why the project was never started or completed, that they should have read the contract more closely, and if they don't acecpt his argument he'll sue them until they do.
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Todd20036 > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
How about Greenland? It doesn't have to sink. The melting glacier will drown them
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Mommie Dammit > JCF • 21 hours ago
Terrible waste of a pair of perfectly good Baldwin 4-4-0 Consolidations.
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teeveedub > Mommie Dammit • 21 hours ago
TIL ...
Baldwin Consolidations are trains.
Thank you, Mommie.
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safari2bongaloo > Mommie Dammit • 21 hours ago
They got to go out in an immortal bang.
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teeveedub > JCF • 21 hours ago
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Oscarlating Wildely > teeveedub • 20 hours ago
Intriguing story with that event: Only one person killed, three injured. Sadly, a woman was helping her husband as he was occupied at work and she got crushed by parts of the building and the train really suffered little damage.
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Sporkfighter > Oscarlating Wildely • 18 hours ago
Got a link to the story?
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William > teeveedub • 20 hours ago
Oops.
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Baltimatt > teeveedub • 19 hours ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Yixing's Fluffer • a day ago
It's safe for patriotic Americans to call them French fries again.
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safari2bongaloo > Yixing's Fluffer • a day ago
We had a bowling alley in town that still had freedom fries on the menu until they were bought out around 2010.
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Princess Lardass > Yixing's Fluffer • 18 hours ago
I'll bet the French still call American Cheese "Idiot Cheese."
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Mikey > Princess Lardass • 3 hours ago
probably refer to it by its scientific name: "plastic".
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2amor • a day ago
Donald Trump should be so proud.....
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That_Looks_Delicious > 2amor • a day ago
He's already praised Kim murdering his relatives to secure power in North Korea and Putin murdering journalists, so Trump will probably brag about Le Pen, too.
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safari2bongaloo > That_Looks_Delicious • a day ago
Why, just yesterday Trump promised that when elected he'd make it easier to sue his enemies for "lies".
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Mommie Dammit > safari2bongaloo • 21 hours ago
In more literate circles, we call that "lese majeste" ... one of the more amusing quirks of the egomaniacal, and tyrannical despots....
So, yes, it fits T-rump perfectly.
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Oscarlating Wildely > Mommie Dammit • 19 hours ago
"lese majeste"...Impressed on usage! Very nice!
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chicago dyke > Oscarlating Wildely • 9 hours ago
the problem is, and even obama has done this, the president officially has the power to issue lettres de cachet as well. ;-(
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Prion • 21 hours ago
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That_Looks_Delicious > Prion • 19 hours ago
Isn't he dreamy? He's like the 5th Beatle or something.
I just can't get over this woman's face.
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zhera > That_Looks_Delicious • 18 hours ago
She saw something move under his hair.
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Oscarlating Wildely > That_Looks_Delicious • 19 hours ago
and look! Augustus Gloop left the chocolate lake and ended up behind her!
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hdtex • a day ago
Fascists of a feather......
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S1AMER • a day ago
If you really want to get to know somebody, know his character, look at his friends.
With Donald Trump, that's one big stinkin' Q.E.D.
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shellback • 21 hours ago
He doesn't look insane at all.
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TuuxKabin > shellback • 21 hours ago
Could he be the influence of Cruz's usual expression? Like they're really straining to take a dump?
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William > TuuxKabin • 20 hours ago
Hateful old men don't get enough fiber in their diet.
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Jimmie Z > William • 19 hours ago
Steamed carrots work wonders ... s0 sweet!
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NZArtist • 21 hours ago
The Don is getting *all* the best endorsements.
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ultragreen > NZArtist • 18 hours ago
What? We don't get to see Satan's private parts? :(
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Oscarlating Wildely > ultragreen • 18 hours ago
That's no tail, sweetheart!
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Jimmie Z > NZArtist • 19 hours ago
That Tail! So long ~ so spikey ~ so slinky!
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Oscarlating Wildely > NZArtist • 20 hours ago
Satan's looking pretty buff. Hell, I'll sit on his pitchfork.
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Tor > Oscarlating Wildely • 19 hours ago
i'd at least invite a couple of my best friends to join me.
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Mr_Furley • a day ago
Game recognizes Game.
The Neo Nazis recognize one of their own.
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safari2bongaloo > Mr_Furley • a day ago
If gays have gaydar... what do neo-nazis have?
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Lumpy Gaga > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
wide stances.
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Oscarlating Wildely > safari2bongaloo • 20 hours ago
Small penises.
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pj > safari2bongaloo • 21 hours ago
lies
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LovesIrony > safari2bongaloo • 20 hours ago
hate ar
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Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild > safari2bongaloo • 4 hours ago
Patriarchy and entitlement issues.
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Lazycrockett • a day ago
Christie, KKK and Neo Nazi's.......Oh My.
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safari2bongaloo > Lazycrockett • a day ago
What are things that would ruin a first date?
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That_Looks_Delicious > safari2bongaloo • a day ago
+1000
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pickypecker • a day ago
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Michael Rush • a day ago
Waitng for the Martin Shkreli endorsement .
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That_Looks_Delicious > Michael Rush • a day ago
Shkreli endorsed Bush. A lot of good that did Little Jebbie.
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Princess Lardass • 18 hours ago
David Duke, Jean-Marie Le-Pen...
There's something seriously wrong when a (former) Grand Wizard of the KKK and Holocaust Denier support your presidential campaign.
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zhera • 19 hours ago
Sigh. Unfortunately, all countries have these morons.
In Norway (and Finland, and probably other countries) we now have something called Sons of Odin. They are hooligan-looking men running around at night 'protecting' the wimmins from the asylum seekers. They consist in large part of neo nazis, former Pegida members, former Norwegian Defense League, and claim to not be racist.
They wear black jackets with a print on the back that says 'Sons of Odin' and a sketch of what I presume is supposed to be Odin with a Norwegian flag covering his face.
Odin and the Norwegian flag. With the goddamn christian cross. Odin.
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DaddyRay • 19 hours ago
OT: Did I miss a Flying Monkey Post?
Poll: 38% of Florida voters believe Ted Cruz could be the Zodiac Killer
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/20...
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Octavio > DaddyRay • 19 hours ago
Ewwwww, that's a good one. :-)
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DaddyRay > Octavio • 19 hours ago
I expect the actual Zodiac Killer to now come forward to clear his name
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Paula • 19 hours ago
That picture!! I'll bet he is fun at parties.
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rabbit_ears > Paula • 18 hours ago
In his spare time he chews down trees and makes dams in rivers.
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Paula > rabbit_ears • 18 hours ago
He could come in handy. If you forget your house keys, he could chew a hole through the door.
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TexasBoy • 21 hours ago
Waiting got Kim Jong-Un's and Ali Khamenei's endorsements.
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canoebum • 21 hours ago
Well, I'd say The Donald has the racist, xenophobic vote just about locked up...worldwide. I'm waiting for Berlusconi to come out and endorse him next.
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safari2bongaloo • a day ago
...that is a hell of an underbite in that photo
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That_Looks_Delicious • a day ago
Well it's about time! I was wondering when the Le Pen and Trump worlds would merge, since the two of them are cut out of the same cloth.
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safari2bongaloo > That_Looks_Delicious • a day ago
A nazi flag from grandpa's attic?
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 18 hours ago
Jean-Marie Le Pen is so extreme that his daughter, Marine Le Pen - current leader of the Front National far right party, has expelled him.
Le Pen and the Trumphührer... Qui se ressemble s'assemble.
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Versailles > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 11 hours ago
That really wasn't because she disagreed with him. He just made her efforts to look less unsavoury more unsaleable. They've been fighting like cat and dog again this week.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Versailles • an hour ago
Infighting like cats and dogs, in this case, is good.
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CatCope • 19 hours ago
WTF IS HAPPENING TO THIS COUNTRY? I am a white, liberal, hetero female, an "Old",also too, and I am Fucking scared for IT(country) Please tell me I am being PUNKED BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild > CatCope • 3 hours ago
I hate to tell you this but all those years people who weren't white or wealthy male were complaining about how bigoted the policies of the Right Wing were.....well, maybe the old, white, hetero liberals should have dislodged their heads from their bums and listened. Because the Right Wing has always been rabidly racist and rabidly sexist and bound and determined and organized to bring the country back to the 30's. The 1830's.
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That_Looks_Delicious > CatCope • 14 hours ago
This does feel like we are living through some kind of strange upheaval that I don't totally understand. This isn't like any election I remember in my lifetime.
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Jim • 20 hours ago
First noisy protesters at Trump rallies, then the KKK, then David Duke, now this geriatric French fascist. Every attention-hungry publicity parasite wants to elbow his way into the Trump media spotlight. It happens in every campaign. Since when is this news that matters?
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Jimmie Z • 20 hours ago
Hate, when stored in the human container, causes side effects such as those seen in this man's face.
A female example is Phyllis Schafly.
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JT • 21 hours ago
Neo-Nazi Leader Endorses Trump
Birds of a feather.
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Bill • 21 hours ago
The world is a terrifying place these days.
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Jean-Marc in Canada • a day ago
Fils de putain dit rien de consequence.
Son of a whore has nothing of consequence to say.
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That_Looks_Delicious > Jean-Marc in Canada • a day ago
How old is he now? He looks older than Pat Robertson even.
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Hue-Man > That_Looks_Delicious • 21 hours ago
I heard a new expression this week - "coffin dodgers".
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JulieBL > That_Looks_Delicious • a day ago
I'm impressed by the color of his teeth.
:P
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ultragreen > JulieBL • 18 hours ago
I'm disappointed that he doesn't have his fangs any longer.
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Jean-Marc in Canada > That_Looks_Delicious • 21 hours ago
He's 87, so there's hope he'll be gone soon.
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pepón > Jean-Marc in Canada • 20 hours ago
We still have his daughter :(
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Jean-Marc in Canada > pepón • 14 hours ago
True, but the way she lives her life, I suspect the criminal element will deal to her soon enough. She's made some very unsavory enemies in Europe.
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Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild • 4 hours ago
Hatred must cause severe constipation. Someone slip the bigot some prunes.
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BudClark > Platos_Redhaired_Stepchild • 13 minutes ago
Yep. That "squeezing out a hard one" look seems to be universal in the Reich (sic) Wing.
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RickCabral • 15 hours ago
Does anyone remember the puffy little mayor of Moscow? He had the same look as M. LePen when he uttered some anti homo sentiment, looking ready to explode.
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marshlc • 16 hours ago
And, again, someone in the Clinton campaign better be saving all these clips to use if necessary in the general. He's befriended and endorsed by Holocaust deniers and the KKK, while the British Parliament debated banning him from the UK - is that the face America wants to show the rest of the world?
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BudClark > marshlc • 10 minutes ago
A dear friend of mine said quite awhile ago,
"The American Experiment is over."
Discuss.
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GuestStop • 17 hours ago
Bored now.
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Sporkfighter • 18 hours ago
Yes, this asshole again.
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Dreaming Vertebrate • 19 hours ago
Le Pen is practically throbbing with lust for Trump.
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DaddyRay > Dreaming Vertebrate • 19 hours ago
His boner is saluting
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > DaddyRay • 18 hours ago
So is the Trumphührer's.
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JCF > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 15 hours ago
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > JCF • 14 hours ago
That's what happens when you blend a Ken Russell movie with US politics.
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Dreaming Vertebrate > DaddyRay • 18 hours ago
He must have worked himself up after seeing Trump's "Great boner!" tweet.
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Octavio • 19 hours ago
The world is becoming a veritable Klan-O-Rama of fun! Gosh. That Donald sure knows how to inspire crowds. He needs to grow a moustache! :-)
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LovesIrony • 21 hours ago
has charles manson endorsed him yet
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Jack_Carter_USA • a day ago
Birds of a feather etc.
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JaniceInToronto • a day ago
It's times like this when I wish there was a "Planet B" to go to...
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billbear1961 • 14 hours ago
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billbear1961 > billbear1961 • 14 hours ago
"Mais que Dieu le protège!"
"BUT may God protect him!"
He implies that Trump is in danger.
All I can say is that If decent people still have SPINES, no fascist will EVER be allowed to take the White House.
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fuzzybits • 17 hours ago
Gramps sure is mad about something.
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kaydenpat • 17 hours ago
Normally this would be the kiss of death but not for Trump.
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joe ho • 18 hours ago
clinton 58
sanders 34
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Max_1 • 18 hours ago
How do you spell RACIST?
T-R-U-M-P
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Jimmie Z • 18 hours ago
The violence has begun.
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Michael Rush > Jimmie Z • 17 hours ago
Why would Ben Carson stab KKK protesters ?
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Max_1 > Jimmie Z • 18 hours ago
Was just gonna post that...
TRUMP Ku Klux Klan rally in Anaheim erupts in violence; three stabbed, 13 arrested
http://www.latimes.com/local/l...
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BudClark > Max_1 • 6 minutes ago
For those who don't know California politics, the Republican Party is dead and buried, except in darkest Orange County, where Anaheim is located.
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Octavio > Max_1 • 18 hours ago
Fun times. Fun times.
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Max_1 > Octavio • 18 hours ago
It appears they used a flag poll to ram people with...
Not sure if it was an American flag or a Confederate flag.
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BudClark > Jimmie Z • 7 minutes ago
HORRIFYING! Are we becoming a "banana republic," or are we already there?
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KCMC • 19 hours ago
12 books. Confusing if this funny or another level of alarming.
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Tor • 19 hours ago
It's got to be a performance art! I think Trump is purposely pulling the crazies out of the woodwork so they have no longer any place to hide.
At least I hope so. At least, I am enjoying watching the Republican establishment wring their hands.
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DaveMiller135 • 20 hours ago
OK, I'm paranoid, but am I actually delusional? Could all this KKK and now Jean-Marie Le Pen (fer gosh sakes) support for Trump, be a way for the Republican party to rid themselves of an incredibly popular candidate they can't actually run?
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ultragreen > DaveMiller135 • 19 hours ago
Trump attracts fascist wannabes in the same way that mud clings to the sides of a pig. No help from the Republican establishment is required.
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another_steve > DaveMiller135 • 19 hours ago
It may be that the only thing that could derail him now is the revelation of some terribly heinous horror in his tax returns. His neanderthal base won't like a rich guy getting away with murder when it comes to his taxes, when they -- the neanderthals -- are paying through the nose.
Other than that, I can't imagine what could possibly derail him at this point.
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Oscarlating Wildely > DaveMiller135 • 20 hours ago
No, as sadly in the primaries bigotry does not trump (intentional) math. He's got math on his side now.
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DaveMiller135 > Oscarlating Wildely • 20 hours ago
OK, but I wonder if that would do more than shift it forward. "We can't let him win." Although I imagine the way Hitler gets elected is that no one can believe he'll be as bad as the way he seems to be headed.
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Oscarlating Wildely > DaveMiller135 • 20 hours ago
Actually, there may be a way. Even though a state votes a certain way, do Electoral College representatives have to follow that decision?
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Stogiebear > Oscarlating Wildely • 19 hours ago
It depends upon the state and the mettle of the Elector.
http://www.archives.gov/federa...
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Oscarlating Wildely • 20 hours ago
From Huff Post: Former CIA Head Explains Why Armed Forces Can't Legally Obey Trump "If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act."
Egs: Torture more than waterboarding. Killing terrorists' families, among others. Think about that. The military would have to tell the president, "Sorry, but um, well, we can't actually do that even though you're the Commander in Chief and all as it breaks all sorts of international laws."
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Skeptical_Inquirer > Oscarlating Wildely • 18 hours ago
The Armed Forces won't rebel short of Trump ordering them to bomb American cities on American soil.
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Lumpy Gaga • a day ago
Oh, foie gras.
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Michael Smith • a day ago
If I had the knowledge, I would start a website that listed all of the endorsements Trump will undoubtedly fail to mention on his own site.
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safari2bongaloo > Michael Smith • a day ago
He'd sue
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Lazycrockett • 18 hours ago
MSNBC is gonna call it for Hillary at 7
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Leo • 18 hours ago
ABC calls SC for Hillary decisively and as expected.
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Lazycrockett > Leo • 18 hours ago
I want to see how big of a win.
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DaddyRay > Lazycrockett • 18 hours ago
I want to hear about turn out - we need to show up in numbers to show we are just as motivated as the GOP
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Lazycrockett > DaddyRay • 18 hours ago
From what I saw today was moderate turn out, nothing huge. But I think the numbers are going to be lower this time around cause of who's running. This isn't an 08 year. I think though the dems will be plenty motivated in November.
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Leo > Lazycrockett • 18 hours ago
Don't know. African-Americans by ~87% though.
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Lazycrockett > Leo • 18 hours ago
Nate Silver is predicting almost 40%
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BudClark • 15 minutes ago
My apologies to all ... I'm old, and my memory is fading.
My POINT about Hitler SHOULD have been that he initially came to power by legal means, not a coup. The details escaped me.
Violence in the streets (see below) ... the neo-nazis in the U.S. have been sowing the seeds of this FOREVER.
Trump refuses to denounce the KKK (!) ... is THIS what most Americans want for our country?
I've lost the link, but Google Frank Schaeffer + Ted Cruz is our first Dominionist presidential candidate.
It's truly frightening.
Dominionism is TOTALLY unconstitutional, of course. That's what the First Amendment is all ABOUT. THAT'S why Republicans are DETERMINED to wipe out the public school system and the teaching of civics.
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sword • an hour ago
What goes around comes around: 1930's Germany/Hitler and Italy/Mussolini;
2017 USA/Trump and France/Le Pen
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j.martindale • 5 hours ago
Birds of a feather.
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Robincho • 9 hours ago
À l'intérieur et en dehors, Le Pen est un meau-feau le plus affreux...
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Adam • 10 hours ago
National Front is not neo-Nazi, nor are most of its members or leaders. It's racist, homophobic, xenophobic, antisemitic, the whole lot... but neo-Nazi is not just a term for all of that.
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Justin • 10 hours ago
He seems nice.
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Sherry McMahan • 12 hours ago
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Sherry McMahan • 12 hours ago
Jean Marie Le Pen, I know you have been expelled from your own party by your own daughter, for being such a racist shit. Still, you won't find any business here, with your shady internet deals.
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Patrick Thomas • 15 hours ago
He looks like a minion.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Patrick Thomas • 14 hours ago
With collective apologies to all Minions.
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joe ho • 18 hours ago
clinton 80
sanders 19
wow!
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Leo > joe ho • 18 hours ago
Holy crap
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joe ho > Leo • 18 hours ago
now 76.4 to 23.
still wow!
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Michael Rush • 18 hours ago
Jean-Marie Le Pen is 87 , he'll be dead within the year .
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Marides48 • 19 hours ago
"Birds of a feather....."
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kirtanloorii • 19 hours ago
Wow. What a guy!
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Lazycrockett • 21 hours ago
With Rubio always talking bout shoving things down our throats, and now Trump is all concerned bout Rubio's make up and talking bout his "fresh lil mouth" homo erotic has entered the GOP race.
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KnownDonorDad > Lazycrockett • 20 hours ago
Ironically, after Lindsey Graham left the race.
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Tor > KnownDonorDad • 19 hours ago
I'm sorry, but Lindsay is not erotic in any sense.
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Oscarlating Wildely > Tor • 19 hours ago
Little ham biscuit? He's erotic in his back of the closet sort of way. I mean, the parkas back there think he's plenty sexy.
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TheManicMechanic • 21 hours ago
Ah, the company you keep...
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bdsmjack • 21 hours ago
What a charming fellow.
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LovesIrony • 21 hours ago
Francisco Franco still holding out for a little more violence before his endorsement
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Clungeflaps • a day ago
I don't understand why Americans think Europeans are so progressive and tolerant. Spend some time with French people and you'll see that they are just as bad as tea party people, especially if you ask them what they think about Roma people and North Africans.
I think French people owe Algerians and Moroccans a huge debt, they have the only food that is good in France.
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Porkie > Clungeflaps • 21 hours ago
Love.. love.... Maghrebine cuisine..It certainly forms and informs an important part of our national cuisine and It's just part of the wonderful culture that we are fortunate enough to share!......but no false modesty the US has also been generous enough to share it's culinary heritage with us.
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Clungeflaps > Porkie • 21 hours ago
i think it's hilarious that French people think that's all US cuisine is. Hamburgers, and nothing else. News flash, most Americans think Macdonald's is low-class dog food. People used to eat that here maybe about 30 years ago, but we've moved on. Apparently, McDo is the most popular fast food place in France? If that's the case, how could I ever take any French person seriously when it comes to food?
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Porkie > Clungeflaps • 21 hours ago
LOL Mc Do's is a C-H-A-I-N with 1000's of restaurants through out the world. If you know anything, let alone as much as you claim, about France and French food you would know that the majority of our eating places are still one off's run and owned by the same people. It's really no surprise if Micky D's serves a lot more plates than tonton Pierre......
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zhera > Clungeflaps • 18 hours ago
It's almost funny how you're complaining about an other nation's xenophobia, while demonstrating just how xenophobic you yourself are.
Almost.
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TuuxKabin > Clungeflaps • 21 hours ago
A flight attendant friend, on her last flight from Paris back to JFK, checking out of the hotel asked a clerk: "Do you speak English?" The clerk replied, haughtily, "But of course". My friend said "Good. Fuck you." Picked up her bags and left.
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Porkie > TuuxKabin • 20 hours ago
Yeah ...'cause the French .....are ..like.... REALLY REALLY ...rude ...ya know.
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Mommie Dammit > Clungeflaps • 21 hours ago
You want good food in France you have to go to Austria, Germany, or Belgium.
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Clungeflaps > Mommie Dammit • 21 hours ago
Same with coffee. French people do not know how to make coffee. It is disgusting over there, you have to go to Spain or Italy for a decent cup.
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That_Looks_Delicious > Clungeflaps • a day ago
I remember an interview with Catherine Deneuve (I think, but it might have been another French actress) where she said she didn't understand the reputation that French men had with American women (mostly derived from Harlequin Romance novels). According to her, French men are very materialistic and do not make especially good partners/lovers. The grass is always greener...
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Clungeflaps > That_Looks_Delicious • a day ago
I agree with her, French guys are crap in the sack.
Portuguese guys, are a ton of fun to fuck with though.
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Porkie > Clungeflaps • 21 hours ago
You know,... you, Donny and poor sad Jean-Marie have so much in common; you all think that you can tell so much about a person just because of the passport they hold or their parents held or where they were born......You should embrace your inner facist. You would be much happier ...oh...ok, .. maybe just as miserable.... but more consistant.
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Porkie > Clungeflaps • 21 hours ago
It's not that I find it difficult to believe that a French man would be intimate with you ....It's more that I can't believe anyone would.....(Strong silent type in the dark room perhaps?)
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Clungeflaps > Porkie • 20 hours ago
It's true, I have actually had sex before. Some of those times have been with French dudes. Unfortunately.
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Porkie > Clungeflaps • 20 hours ago
Damn!!!! I thought that you were exagerating for effect ....Did you pay them?
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Clungeflaps > Porkie • 20 hours ago
No......I feel like they should have paid me though.
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Porkie > Clungeflaps • 20 hours ago
Don't worry I am sure they all felt just the same.
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That_Looks_Delicious > Clungeflaps • a day ago
I'm putting out an open invitation to my bedroom to Cristiano Ronaldo if he ever decides to finally come out.
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Bad Tom • 2 days ago
It's about time.
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The same to Star Trek, in its many forms. From what I've read, Gene Roddenberry wanted to have gay characters on Star Trek, but was vetoed by studio producers. The nation was ready before they were, because, dollars.
Gene Roddenberry was an advanced human being. We don't get them very often. When we do, we should pay attention.
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Edit: It was the studio producers, not the studio execs.
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BeccaM > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
Original series? No. Next Gen, yes, but only obliquely.
There was one canceled Next Gen script written by David Gerrold called Blood & Fire (later remade as Phase II fan-produced show, set in the original series era) in which characters were to be a gay male couple, with the blood-plasma disease involved as a symbolic stand-in for HIV.
The closest they got in Next Gen was one episode when Riker fell in love with a mono-gender species member who was later cruelly brainwashed into not identifying as female. (Reparative therapy, anyone?) And another when one of the first Trill we ever met switched genders upon re-implantation...and if I remember correctly, Dr. Crusher couldn't handle it and broke off their romantic involvement.
But yeah... folks need to remember: In the mid-1960s, being gay was illegal in many locales. By the 70s, we were seeing a few gay characters, but they were nearly always portrayed as...well, weirdos in some way. Popular acceptance of LGBT folks really didn't begin to take hold until the 1990s and even that was slow. DADT and DOMA didn't come out of nowhere.
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Reality.Bites > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Well not always - there was Phyllis's brother Ben on the Mary Tyler Moore show.
Aired 43 years ago.
But to your point, it was absolutely inconceivable for Star Trek The Original Series to have shown a gay character. Showing a black woman as an officer was controversial.
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Sherry McMahan > Reality.Bites • 13 hours ago
❝my .friend's mate Is getting 98$. HOURLY. on the internet."....
two days ago new McLaren. F1 bought after earning 18,512$,,,this was my previous month's paycheck ,and-a little over, 17k$ Last month ..3-5 h/r of work a day ..with extra open doors & weekly. paychecks.. it's realy the easiest work I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months ago and now making over 87$, p/h.
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BeccaM > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
Interesting. I'd not seen that one. Thanks!
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Reality.Bites > BeccaM • 2 days ago
The actor who played Ben, Robert Moore, was an acclaimed theatre director. He directed the original off-Broadway production of The Boys in the Band and was nominated for five Tonys as a director. He also directed 26 episodes of Rhoda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Houndentenor > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
The original concept for MTM was to have Murray played by Charles Nelson Reilly. That would have been a very different office dynamic had Reilly been available. (He was on another show that got picked up for one more season.)
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Reality.Bites > Houndentenor • 2 days ago
Once again in this thread I post something after someone else posted it first!
Murray's feud with Sue Ann would have been even better.
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Houndentenor > Reality.Bites • a day ago
It's okay. We obviously read the same book! Fanboy power!!!
I love the Sue Ann character because 1) it's BETTY WHITE MOTHERFUCKERS! and 2) Murray really needed a sparring partner and Sue Ann was a worthy opponent. It comes off as fun rather than mean because they are so evenly matched. They both play it with a sly grin which lets you know that they've been waiting all day to use whatever insult they just thought up for the other one. Brilliant writing and acting from everyone on that show.
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coram nobis > Houndentenor • a day ago
Betty White had some hilarious moments. Here are two from an episode in which she wanted to be a news anchor. Here she explains why. Cover your keyboards.
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coram nobis > coram nobis • a day ago
And here Sue Ann continues. The audition and a mudslide.
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Houndentenor > coram nobis • 20 hours ago
I looked and didn't find it but my favorite Sue Ann moment is when her boyfriend dumps her at the Teddy Awards and she's distraught just as they call her name and then...well the rest is comedy gold.
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coram nobis > Houndentenor • 12 hours ago
Yes, although it also involved her tendency to smile. As was the moment when she tells Mary how she feels about her sister coming to stay.
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Acronym Jim > Houndentenor • a day ago
Lidsville?
I loved that show.
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Houndentenor > Acronym Jim • a day ago
The Ghost and Mrs Muir. I think it wound up being canceled before MTM started airing but he wouldn't have been available for the pilot so he missed out. A luck break for Gavin McLeod who did a great job of playing the middle class brown-bagging office worker who is common in our country but almost never depicted on tv.
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coram nobis > Houndentenor • a day ago
And Gavin McLeod lucked out by being on three hit TV shows. MTM, McHale's Navy and Love Boat.
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Phillip in L.A. > Reality.Bites • a day ago
"Showing a black woman as an officer was controversial."
Kudos to Gene for featuring the first inter-racial on-screen kiss!
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Gerry Fisher > Reality.Bites • a day ago
When the few exceptions did show up, they were super notable. For me, it was the TV movie, "That Certain Summer."
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Houndentenor > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
Yes, although Phyllis's brother being gay is only mentioned at the end and even then for a twist ending for the story. It does make for a funny joke (for the early 70s) that Phyllis is so appalled at the idea of Rhoda marrying her brother that she's relieved to find out he's gay. Even so for the time it's rather positive. I was young at the time and remember ever reference to gay people and we were either the butts of jokes or victims (usually murdered like on Starsky and Hutch). Even in the 80s things weren't much better but then most mentions of gay people were met with sponsor boycotts. An episode of thirtysomething (around 1989) ran with some ad slots filled with PSAs because advertisers bailed. It's hard to blame the networks since they really can't afford to lose money.
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Reality.Bites > Houndentenor • 2 days ago
The Mary Tyler Moore Show had a couple of other gay references.
In one, Ted rents Georgette a tux (perhaps for the Teddy awards) to save the cost of a dress. Mary says she looks adorable, but Georgette tells Ted, "I don't care what anyone says, I feel like the top of a gay wedding cake."
And in another episode, Ted, Murray and Mary are in LA for a convention and a female journalist is pursuing Ted, which Murray and Mary don't believe. Mary opines that "people in Hollywood are just the same as everyone else" at which point a man comes up to Murray and says "Excuse me sir, would you like to dance?"
Interestingly, Murray himself was originally conceived as a gay character, to be played by a Charles Nelson Reilly type (or Mr. Reilly himself). This was from the book "Love Is All Around: The Making of the Mary Tyler Moore Show"
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Houndentenor > Reality.Bites • a day ago
All true. But I think the original Murray character (to be played by the brilliant CNR) was going to be antagonistic towards Mary. That would have been interesting. I grew up watching Reilly on Match Game. He and Brett Sommers were a hoot.
btw, if you haven't seen it, Charles Nelson Reilly's one man show The Life of Reilly (2006) is out on DVD.
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cmh > BeccaM • a day ago
I loved the Deep Space 9 episode "Rejoined" with Dax and Lenara Kahn. It seemed right that it was the Star Trek universe where this happened. Now that was the best queer kiss on TV up to that point, frankly it was ground breaking. Everything else had been pretty chaste. That was Oct 1995.
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Tigernan Quinn > cmh • a day ago
I remember that kiss - because it wasn't the usual chaste peck, they WENT for it, on national tv. I was really surprised.
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Mihangel apYrs > Tigernan Quinn • a day ago
but it was between to beautiful women - so it was hawt!!! Two guys - eeew
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Bj Lincoln > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
What you said about Gene was beautiful. The man was brilliant. He saw the future of humanity in a truly different light. He saw our potential for great advancement if we could just get past our discrimination of the petty things that mean nothing like color, race and so on including us. I hoped we would be farther along by now yet so many things have changed in my lifetime I can't complain too much.
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Kruhn > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
Not the Execs, but the producers who took over, Brennan and Piller.
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Bad Tom > Kruhn • 2 days ago
Thanks for the correction. I was using the term too loosely.
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Friday > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
Even worse, someone stopped there being Andorians! :)
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Michael Smith > Friday • 2 days ago
I'd say they brought them back for Enterprise, but Enterprise doesn't count in my book.
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FAEN > Michael Smith • 2 days ago
I loved Enterprise myself. Scott Bakula could have been my Captain any day.
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Friday > FAEN • 2 days ago
I do think that show would have lived if they hadn't been in such a hurry to Voyagerize it. How the Federation got started is what everyone *wanted to see.*
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Lantor > FAEN • a day ago
And Trip my chief engineer!
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Friday > Michael Smith • 2 days ago
They did the makeup and effects well, at least. There's certain forgiveness that earned, despite trying to squeeze them out of the Trekverse in TNG (Then apparently go through contortions to explain their scarcity in later novels. )
(Also I think Enterprise was mishandled, especially regarding fan-outrage factors, (Worst thing they could do, I thought, was take Enterprise *out* of the place and time everyone wanted to see developed for much of the series' run,) but they were just sorting it out when they got cancelled. (In a lot of ways they really could have handled the fan-panic better, too, by saying, at least, "OK, this really is leading up to the Trekverse you know and love, and not just ignoring all that by sticking Borg and Ferengi and time travel in," )
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Phillip in L.A. > Friday • a day ago
Ugh! I felt Enterprise was going to be a bust in the first few minutes of its run--after hearing that terrible theme-song.
And notwithstanding FAEN's lust for Scott Bakula, I can easily say he was "worst Trek Captain ever" (of course, he made the big chair through nepotism)
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Bj Lincoln > Michael Smith • 2 days ago
I liked it to my surprise. It was hard to go back before the popular time frame. They made the first prequel before the Star Trek and Star Wars films.
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perversatile > Bad Tom • a day ago
all i can here is ''Gaaaaaayzz in Space" like on the Muppet Show
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guest > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
I am not so sure Gene wanted to have a gay character in either the original series or the next generation. Maybe he had thoughts before he died in other shows. And maybe there is more out there that he did ask the network, but George Takei does cover what Gene told him.
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/...
And he said, “I’m treading a fine tight wire here. I’m dealing with
issues of the time. I’m dealing with the civil rights movement, the
Vietnam War, the Cold War and I need to be able to make that statement
by staying on the air.” He said, “If I dealt with that issue I wouldn’t
be able to deal with any issue because I would be canceled
And at the link, one of our own wrote;
TampaZeke
7 months ago
That doesn't explain why not a single one of the other, more recent,
iterations of Star Trek, (none of the televisions series and none of the
movies) have ever included a gay character.
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Houndentenor > guest • 2 days ago
To be honest, Roddenberry really was a visionary when it came to race. He fought serious battles the keep the Uhura character on the bridge. NBC really didn't want her there and the episode when she and Kirk kiss was pulled by some stations in the south. But honestly when it came to women's rights he was really behind the curve. the final original series episode is about a woman bitter because as a woman she can never become captain. Ouch. But then such a thing was hardly imaginable in 1969. But then he did envision an earth past the cold war so he deserves credit for that.
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guest > Houndentenor • a day ago
Yes, and that was when race relations were much more along. The topic was gay relations, which is what I addressed.
I never addressed that Gene was not ahead of his time. I addressed that we see no comment from him on wanting a gay character, which was not true that he went to the studios for a gay character. In fact, George T. states the opposite.
I also never took any credit away from Gene.
Please do not read into a comment what is clearly not there. RIF.
And that episode was never shown in many states in the south.
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Houndentenor > guest • a day ago
I find it odd that you are acting as if I personally attacked you even though you are posting as "guest". Really?
I just brought up some points that I thought were at least tangentially relevant. I apologize. I thought we were having an adult conversation.
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Lionel Leston > guest • 2 days ago
Jadzia Dax did briefly explore her bisexual side in Deep Space Nine. Admittedly for just one episode. But it was the other person in the relationship, Lenara Karn who broke it off, for fear of her symbiont's ostracism.
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Lazycrockett > Lionel Leston • 2 days ago
The way they killed Dax off still pisses me off to this day, it was just so FU to the actress who wanted to leave the show after 6 years.
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BeccaM > Lazycrockett • 2 days ago
Me too. The writers should've just given Jadzia a promotion to Commander or Captain, assigned her to some spiffy new ship and sent her and her crew off on some long-duration exploration mission to the Gamma Sector or something like that.
Killing her off and replacing her as Ezri with the so-not-Dax-like Nicole de Boer was frickin' gratuitous. (Not intended as a slam against the actress -- she's fine. But Dax was supposed to be a centuries old blended being and Ezri was just too frickin' naive most of the time.) Also, given the stick up the Trill race's asses concerning contact with previous lovers and family members, I can't imagine why her people would let Dax continue to serve at the exact same posting as her just-widowed husband, Worf. Made no sense on any level, save as a FU to Terry Farrell.
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jimbo65 > BeccaM • a day ago
Back in the 90's I went to a lot of Star Trek conventions. Saw Terry Farrell at one of them. She was dropping F bombs left and right. And giving some inappropriate, vulgar responses to audience members asking questions. I'm hardly a prude. But I felt bad for parents that brought their young kids.
I loved the Jadzia Dax character. Unfortunately it was one of those instances of meeting the actor ended up disappointing me.
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guest > Lionel Leston • a day ago
Gene also had less and less to do with the next generation as the years went on. I replied to a post that credited Gene with what we do not know is factual, so I am going with maybe on the gay characters.
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motordog > Lionel Leston • 2 days ago
Yeah, the Trills' odd "no sex with former lovers...EVER" rule. Talk about a convenient plot device. IIRC, the punishment was death? Seems like that alone would keep them out of the Federation.
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chicago dyke > motordog • 2 days ago
no, it was more subtle than that.
the Trill are two sentient beings. one is like us, male and female. the other was... left a little bit murky, in that gender question way. the problem was that the two could love another set of similar beings, as "one," and then things got... confused.
bisexuals really appreciate it, i think, as one of those. it opened up so many questions. do i love you, your body, your gender, our relationship as "normal" or as "deviant?" your mind, our shared experiences in other bodies with different naughty parts, what?
the "death" part you're thinking of has to do with the separation. the taboo on previous hosts and lovers had to do more with the Trill being than the hosts. the Trill, whatever they are, were the ones forbidden to love again. but there wasn't really a strong taboo against the hosts practicing homosexual human-style relations.
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Todd Allis > chicago dyke • 2 days ago
I just saw that episode this year. They would be banished from their home planet, and when the host died, so would the Trill inside, instead of being passed on to a new host.
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chicago dyke > Todd Allis • 2 days ago
but the hosts would live the duration of their natural lives. like the unspecial Trill who didn't join.
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Tigernan Quinn > chicago dyke • a day ago
No, that is all YOU.
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chicago dyke > Tigernan Quinn • a day ago
well, me and a lot of people who've seen the ep. i didn't come up with that analysis, but have read it many times on many forums.
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lymis > guest • a day ago
The thing for me was how simple it would have been to have one of the secondary characters in Next Generation be gay.
Everyone usually talks about how difficult it would be to have one of the 7 or 8 main characters - or two of them - be gay and the challenges that it would add for the writers.
But characters like Crusher's head nurse, who show up on a recurring basis, could have been gay, with only a reference or two to the gender of their partner, and occasionally be seen sitting together in 10-Forward, or hugging goodbye before an away mission, without being any sort of big deal at all.
These days, I'd expect more, but at the time, it would have been a very positive but low-key way of expressing that in a couple hundred years people don't care.
Instead, we got that piece of drek with the "everyone's androgynous, and only perverts have gender" without even the obvious unhappy ending - once she was brainwashed, she was perfectly fine with it. So the "gay episode" became a tribute to reparative therapy. At the very least, it should have been "Sure, she was a brilliant scientist and now she does yard work under supervision so she doesn't hurt herself, but see how happy she is!"
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chicago dyke > lymis • a day ago
now see, i liked that ep b/c of the brainwashing part. it horrified us, when that ep was first shown. we used to have TNG parties back in the day, a nice gathering of geek friends once a week. i totally thought the point was "they do this for real, America. do you get it?" a lot of people back then either didn't know about or thought it was a good thing, the "therapy" they did to so many of our children then.
and we all thought aloud, and this includes my straight friends, that the other point was "gee, they are just screaming to the fans they would do a gay character but are not allowed by the suits. and that's wrong." ymmv
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Friday > lymis • a day ago
Well, it's more obviously a *trans* episode, really, though there's obvious things in common there, especially with the 'reparative therapy' bit.... Really the fact that it 'worked' was presented as *freaking creepy* like they'd taken Soren's personality away.
In a sense kind of a copout that Soren didn't get to stay on the Enterprise, but come down to it the writing guidelines actually meant most scripts couldn't add new characters to the show, or love interests that stay for the principal characters, it wasn't till Deep Space Nine when they started getting toward more serial plot arcs and the like that that kind of stuff could really happen, ...kind of why all those TNG romantic subplots had to get the love interest out of there in one way or another by the end of an episode anyway.
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chicago dyke > Friday • a day ago
i stand corrected and should have said "LGBT" character.
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Reality.Bites > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
The upcoming Star Trek series does have a gay showrunner, Bryan Fuller. Does that mean a gay character? Who knows?
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Michael Smith > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
Yeah, a longstanding rumor was that it was one executive who said absolutely not. They were even supposed to have a gay character in Star Trek: First Contact, but it was dropped.
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Austin McHenry > Michael Smith • 2 days ago
As I recall, Gene had long taken the advice of his investors to omit any obviously gay characters, however he'd decided to over-rule them late in his life. Unfortunately, he died too soon, and HIS WIFE dropped the axe on any potential for gay characters. Majel Barret / voice of the computer / Christine Chapel / Lwaxana Troi. A pity, as she *seemed* like a nice lady. Oh well, she's dead now.
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motordog > Austin McHenry • 2 days ago
I'm not automatically discounting what you said, but I never heard the Majel Barret part...do you have a source?
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Reality.Bites > Austin McHenry • 2 days ago
Majel Barrett had no creative control of Star Trek whatsoever.
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Bj Lincoln > Austin McHenry • 2 days ago
I had not heard that about her. I think she was beautiful and love every episode she was in.
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Reality.Bites > Michael Smith • 2 days ago
Although in novels (which aren't canon, but are sanctioned) the character has been made explicitly gay.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/...
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motordog > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
I'm assuming the Star Trek Online MMORPG isn't cannon, but they also included at least one same-sex couple...Klingon lesbians!
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chicago dyke > motordog • a day ago
oooh.
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StSean > Bad Tom • 5 hours ago
GIVE US STORMPILOT!!!
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another_steve • 2 days ago
"Doctor Who" has been an innovator in introducing LGBT characters on the sci-fi screen. My horny brothers reading here will remember the adorable -- and queer -- Captain Jack Harkness.
Oy.
Be still my beating heart...
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Friday > another_steve • 2 days ago
Have to admit Torchwood is subtitled to me, "Interdimensional Bisexuals That Save Cardiff." :)
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JCF > Friday • 2 days ago
*snork*
"He'll boink anything if it's gorgeous enough!"
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BeccaM > another_steve • 2 days ago
Captain Jack "Yummy Personified" Harkness is immortal...so I'm sure somewhere, somewhen he'd be in "a galaxy far, far away." :-)
What I really liked about him was there wasn't a sentient being anywhere he'd be unwilling to boink.
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motordog > BeccaM • 2 days ago
*spoiler-ish*
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The whole Ianto death thing kind of cooled my love of Torchwood...still like it, but found that off-putting and even a bit petty and hackneyed.
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JCF > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Nah. Long-lived, but not immortal. We actually saw him die, in S3 (Ten-nant's 2nd) of DW, when "the Face of Boe" (i.e., Cap'n Jack's nickname) passed away (I can't remember just how far in the future it was).
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BeccaM > JCF • 2 days ago
Sorry, never 100% confirmed that was the same being. Presumed by some, hinted, but not definitively confirmed.
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motordog > JCF • 2 days ago
Was that ever officially confirmed to be Captain Jack? I know there were a lot of clues, but never was completely sure.
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perversatile > another_steve • a day ago
- from 'The Doctor's Wife"
DOCTOR:
There are no Time Lords left in the universe, but the universe isn't where we're going! (throws the box to AMY)
See that snake? The mark of the Corsair. Fantastic bloke. He had that
snake as a tattoo in every regeneration. Didn't feel like himself
without the tattoo. Or herself, a couple of times. Ooh, she was a bad
girl!
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Ed Burrow > another_steve • a day ago
you do know he's bisexual and married to a guy, right?
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Mihangel apYrs > Ed Burrow • a day ago
no BARROWMAN is gay and married to a guy.
And I kissed him once. Chastely. After a party.
(Swank)
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another_steve > Ed Burrow • a day ago
I did not know that. Ohmigod what wonderful news to begin my day with! Thanks, Ed.
From John Barrowman's wiki page:
"Barrowman is openly gay: he met his husband, Scott Gill, during a production of Rope at the Chichester Festival Theatre in 1993, after Gill came to see Barrowman in the play. The couple have houses in London, England; Cardiff, Wales; and Palm Springs, California. Barrowman and Gill entered into a civil partnership on 27 December 2006. A small ceremony was held in Cardiff with friends and family, with the cast of Torchwood and executive producer Russell T Davies as guests. The pair were legally married in the state of California on 2 July 2013, following the United States Supreme Court's decision to deny an appeal to overturning California Proposition 8 in Hollingsworth v. Perry."
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FAEN > another_steve • 2 days ago
WOOF!
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Bluto • 2 days ago
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unsavedheathen > Bluto • a day ago
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Bluto > unsavedheathen • a day ago
Well that explains why their son turned out to be a little shit.
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Rex • 2 days ago
The question is, will there be Star Wars characters Willing to sell them a cake?
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bkmn • 2 days ago
Nothing perks up a Friday evening like the sound of fundie heads exploding.
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Brad Lathem • 2 days ago
The Sith just want their religious liberty.
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KT • 2 days ago
Funny, a couple of years ago he told the gay entertainment website AfterElton the same thing about his Star Trek universe and lo and behold, still no LGBT charactersyet. I will believe it when I see it, for now it is all just talk and appealing to the room.
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DaveMiller135 • 2 days ago
As I told my boyfriend in 1977, "Use some force, Luke!" [Not his real name.]
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Edmund Allin • a day ago
They should just do it already.
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DaddyRay • 2 days ago
News just reported Yoko Ono - Possible Stroke
http://pagesix.com/2016/02/26/...
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sherman > DaddyRay • 2 days ago
In the article: "A spokesman for Ono insisted that she did not suffer a stoke but had experienced “serious flu-like symptoms” and would be released soon."
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medaka > sherman • a day ago
And Sean says she's OK
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TuuxKabin > medaka • a day ago
Sean has his father's sense of humor. Latest, this Saturday morning, is that she'll be released soon and it was an episode of the flu. Hope she'll be fine and be with us for a long, long time.
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medaka > TuuxKabin • a day ago
Hope she'll be fine and be with us for a long, long time.
Moi aussi. I never understand the Yoko-hating that goes on here sometimes. I love me some disco and Madonna and Kylie, but c'mon folks, Yoko is Fluxus!
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TuuxKabin > medaka • a day ago
Agreed. She's blended well thru the years. Love that Yoko!
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Blake Jordan • 2 days ago
Didn't he say the same thing about his reboot of Star Trek, and there have yet to be any LGBT characters in those movies either...
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coram nobis • 2 days ago
"Maurice" (Merchat/Ivory), "My Beautiful Laundrette" and "Victor/Victoria." I suppose these are alt-Hollywood productions with LGBT characters as protagonists, upbeat endings and (in V/V) all sorts of gender-transgressive characters. Who can forget the "Lady of Seville" reprise?
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Sporkfighter > coram nobis • 2 days ago
Zorro, the Gay Blade (1981) certainly has a gay protagonist.
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coram nobis > Sporkfighter • 2 days ago
Ha! I'd forgotten that.
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Edmund Allin > coram nobis • a day ago
:)
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medaka > coram nobis • a day ago
Wasn't Victor/Victoria the one where Julie Andrews shows her boobs? Mary Poppins, indeed!
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coram nobis > medaka • a day ago
No, that was another Blake Edwards comedy, "S.O.B."
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medaka > coram nobis • a day ago
Thanks! I thought it might be a different one....
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FAEN • 2 days ago
May The Force Be With The Rainbow.
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EdmondWherever • a day ago
"First female Jedi"?? Maybe we should ask Ahsoka Tano, Ayla Secura, Shaak Ti, Depa Billaba, Luminara Unduli and Barriss Offee what they think about that!
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patrick • 2 days ago
Fascinating. Since his TREK-films would seem like the ideal vehicles
for portraying this philosophy of his. It was that very same
inclusiveness which defined Gene
Roddenberry's creation.
Therefore, it would appear that it is, indeed, the
Owners of the TREK-franchise (whoever that might happen to be at any
given time during the last 5-decades) who are continuing to banish
groundbreaking LGBT-representations in virtually any single production of
STAR TREK. And much to their shame ...
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Phillip in L.A. > patrick • a day ago
Agree, Patrick, but don't you think Mr. Abrams had enough juice to insist on an LGBTQ character, if he really cared as much as he panders?
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patrick > Phillip in L.A. • a day ago
Perhaps, but certainly not necessarily. Gene himself never did, nor could. Neither could Rick Berman. TOS was remarkably liberated ( Kirk's bed-hopping, for instance - and pleasure-planets, Argelius II), STTMP ("my oath of celibacy is on record, Captain"), and TNG (Risa). Nevertheless, at some point, it was decided by Paramount Pictures that TREK was a "family friendly" franchise. And, to that end, blatant sexually was quite restrained throughout most of the shows. For what sexuality remained - would be HETEROsexual only, of course. Well, perhaps that occasional mirror-universe (where homosexual-attractions appeared to be practiced only by the most evil of characters) or some genderless-alien.
The subject of LGBT-representations in TREK have certainly been discussed in length by many over the decades. The blow-back from even TREKfans can be quite intense. Consequently, it's no surprise that the Studios in charge of TREK simply feel it's not worth "turning off" any fans at all - even if they're homophobic. Quite unlike Gene's attitude - as when he was warned that a mixed-race kiss would lose viewers from the Deep-South and Gene essentially said "f*ck 'em".
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Capritaur • 2 days ago
Ugh... boyfriend doesn't need more reason for this strange obsession...
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Traxley Launderette > Capritaur • 2 days ago
And my straight housemate will understand ny incessant giggling.
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JVB • 2 days ago
What CP30 mincing about in Drag? (oh wait he already does that!).
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Bad Tom > JVB • 2 days ago
Robosexual!
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DaddyRay > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
So CP30 is dating Rubio?
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Bad Tom > DaddyRay • 2 days ago
Who's the top?
My bet is C3P0.
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Reality.Bites > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
Yeah, I think they may be a couple.
(That's Chris Colfer and partner Will Sherrod in the costumes from 2013)
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DaddyRay > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
They sync up over bluetooth
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Bad Tom > DaddyRay • 2 days ago
Beep! Waiting for device to sync.
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JCF > DaddyRay • 2 days ago
So THAT's what we're calling it now!
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Roger Mann > Bad Tom • 2 days ago
No, R2D2. Have you lost your copy of The Butch Manual?
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Doug105 > Roger Mann • 2 days ago
He does use his probe a lot.
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Bad Tom > Roger Mann • a day ago
But we're talkin' Rubio and C3P0.
If R2D2 is involved, then it's a three-way kinky robosexual scene.
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Ogre Magi • a day ago
I thought C3PO was gay?
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Friday > Ogre Magi • a day ago
Hardly counts, does it?
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Ogre Magi > Friday • 4 hours ago
Well, Jabba the Hutt's brother Ziro seemed pretty gay
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Phillip in L.A. • a day ago
Mr. Abrams, if it's so "narrow-minded" and "counter-intuitive" to exclude us, why "only" seven Star Wars movies without any openly LGBTQ characters?
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Edmund Allin > Phillip in L.A. • a day ago
He was 11 when the first one came out, you can't hold him responsible for any other than the last one. OTOH, I'm sure he's just baiting us.
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jomicur • a day ago
And only forty years too late!!!
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Alan43 • a day ago
Glad to see the change
While Star Trek has always had a theme of diversity and inclusivity (at least compared with the larger culture), Star Wars has been less diverse and at times kind of racist and homophobic (Sorry, Lando couldn't compensate for the horror that was Jar Jar Binks)
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kirtanloorii • a day ago
Watch him puss out by adding a gay droid or something.
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Secure • a day ago
Hmmm....Laura Dern is in Episode VIII....
Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Puppy Episode
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Avenger280 > Secure • 14 hours ago
C-3PO gets his toaster oven
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Blake Jordan • 2 days ago
Maybe Abrams honestly wants to be LGBT+ inclusive, and this is not just queer baiting / pandering, but he probably knows the studio (producers) wil be the stumbling block, and he does not have to take the blame when no LGBT+ representation occurs.
But I guess we might as well give up any hope that it will be Poe Dameron, part of the new trio of good people, that is not straight... and instead expect some minor character introduced for the final movie(s).
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joeyj1220 > Blake Jordan • a day ago
Yes... similar to the way the studios gay-baited "Deadpool" for months prior to release, and then when it's released its basically frat boy humor bordering on homophobia (despite the praise from some LGBT media that the film was "heteroflexible"). I seem to be the only person in my circle who hated Deadpool.
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Blake Jordan > joeyj1220 • a day ago
I knew not to expect anything to come out of the director's, et. al. claim that Deadpool would be "pansexual*", so I was not disappointment by that aspect.
Unlike you it seems, I am one of the sheep that loved Deadpool, for everything it was meant to be, outside of the supposed non-heterosexuality stuff...
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*Their definition of a pansexual man seems to be: "an otherwise straight man, saying or doing stuff that walks the line between homoeroticism and homophobia."
If that was the definition, then there have been a lot of pansexual men in movies, eg. pretty much every role Zac Efron has taken...
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sherman > Blake Jordan • 2 days ago
In case someone besides me doesn't know who that is:
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Bill • 2 days ago
A gay wookie. Yay!
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chicago dyke • 2 days ago
i'm so old i remember when it used to be politically and socially brave to be str8, rich, making popular culture and pro-gay, instead of a hack executive glomming on a trendy thing to use in a multi-level marketing campaign.
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DaddyRay > chicago dyke • 2 days ago
I'm so old
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Octavio • 2 days ago
Fabulous. The franchise has finally made enough money they can afford to buy a couple of expensive gays. Every zoo wants. them. :-)
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Sporkfighter > Octavio • 2 days ago
That's what happens when you're just another demographic - you become a product marketers want to buy.
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Phillip in L.A. > Sporkfighter • a day ago
But that's better than a "product" marketers want to kill! ;}
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Sporkfighter > Phillip in L.A. • a day ago
My daily rant:
Yeah, there is that. But there's often a solidarity that forms between members of an oppressed group that disappears with the oppression. When you get to be just regular people, you're just regular people. Enclaves disperse, places that were special because of the struggle become just places. Isn't that happening? Aren't some people finding that a bit sad?
Not that I'm in any way against full equality for all people; I'm certainly not. It's just a bit sad to see the strength and unity formed by a righteous cause fray, especially before the work is complete. ENDA, ENDA, ENDA! It's too soon for you to be 'just regular people', because you're not. A few roles in a few movies for a few actors isn't much solace when thousands are fired, evicted, untreated by the local doctor, un-served by the the local restaurant, etc.
Sorry to be a bucket of cold water.
There, I feel better.
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motordog > Octavio • 2 days ago
It's hard to get them to breed in captivity...but the cubs are soooo cute!
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Gest2016 • 2 days ago
There have already been "gay" Star Wars characters. C3PO is as gay as they day is long, even the actor who portrays him is gay.
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Reality.Bites > Gest2016 • 2 days ago
Really? Do you think his wife knows?
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another_steve • 2 days ago
Wondering whether any film and/or TV historians reading here might know when the first self-identified queer sci-fi character appeared on either the small or large screen.
As a queerling growing up in the 1960s and addicted to "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits," I so wanted to see same-sex love reflected in a character on one of those shows -- but it was not meant to be. It was the 1960s, after all.
(Rod Serling, btw, is rumored to have been a homophobe. It's a somewhat contested rumor in Twilight Zone fanatic circles, but it's out there.)
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BeccaM > another_steve • 2 days ago
Here you go: 1919 film, "Different from the Others." German silent film, later banned.
Paul Korner is a homosexual musician who falls in love with his protégé
Kurt. Unfortunately, the two are seen walking hand in hand by the
blackmailer Franz. Though Paul agrees to Franz's demands at first, it
gets out of hand and he ends up refusing to pay which has dire
consequences for the lovers.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...
First gay character on TV? On "All in the Family," 1971. Nixon pitched a fit about it.
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coram nobis > BeccaM • 2 days ago
No, here you go. 1895, no less. And Thomas Edison invented this, too.
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BeccaM > coram nobis • 2 days ago
But that's just an experimental film of two dudes dancing together. Not really-really gay.
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coram nobis > BeccaM • 2 days ago
It was the most iconic segment from "The Celluloid Closet." Edison could have found a guy and a gal, but he didn't.
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Michael Rush > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Does anyone remember the Nancy Walker Show ,I remember her having a flaming secretary which was embarrassing to watch with anyone else in the room ( when you are 12 years old anyway ) , i can't find any reference to it , nothing on youttube . I think it was set in San Francisco .
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Reality.Bites > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
I can't say I remember it, aside from being aware of it at the time. There's a fairly detailed article on it at Wikipedia though.
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Michael Rush > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
The actor was Ken Olfson , the year was 1976 , it was really a over the top gay character but no youtube video .
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Reality.Bites > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Although it doesn't count because it wasn't in the US, the Canadian series Wojeck (about a crusading coroner like Quincy, M.E.) had an episode dealing with homosexuality in 1968
2.03 [--] Wojeck: AFTER ALL, WHO'S ART MORRISON ANYWAY?
16Jan68 CBC Tue - original Canadian airdate [BH]
written by Grahame Woods
(who was also the director of photography for all episodes)
guest star
Margot Kidder
Synopsis:
Cinematographer Grahame Woods's first film script was presented in this, though under a pseudonym while the program was in production.
An intriguing and sympathetic script about a middle-aged homosexual and the blackmail plot that forces him to disclose his secret.
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another_steve > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Thanks.
As you were typing, I edited my post to add "sci-fi" before "character." But the info you provided is interesting all the same. :)
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BeccaM > another_steve • 2 days ago
Hmm... let me think. If sci-fi is required, I think Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) is the first to have both a gay and a transvestite man as its lead character. I could be wrong though.
The first serious film though would probably be The Hunger, which had lesbian sex in it. Early 1980s, I think?
Ah, found another for you, as I had a tickle of memory:
The first time any sort of gay relationship was portrayed on television was on the made-for-TV movie That Certain Summer which aired in 1972. Two major stars at the time, Martin Sheen and Hal Holbrook, played a couple living in secret until Holbrook’s son discovers the truth. It was the first time homosexual relationships were shown in a sympathetic way and was well received publicly and critically.
http://equalli.com/blog/out-on...
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Reality.Bites > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Frank was bi - at the very least. Considering he wasn't human, he'd be more properly described as pansexual.
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BeccaM > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
True.
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Michael Rush > another_steve • 2 days ago
This is cloaked but funny to look back on
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another_steve > Michael Rush • a day ago
Enjoyed that, Michael. Thanks.
The Dr. Smith character in "Lost in Space" was one of the great "nod nod wink wink" gay figures in 1960s television. The writers obviously had a lot of fun with him. And Jonathan Harris was absolutely perfect for that role. Made for it.
You might enjoy this:
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Michael Rush > another_steve • a day ago
If i had time i would edit my own version of this ...
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coram nobis > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
Danger Wil Robinson!
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Friday > another_steve • a day ago
Just for completeness, there's Ivanova from Babylon 5, she was in love with Talia, so at least confirmed bi. (Also had feelings for Marcus, apparently but that more or less only came out when he was dying so who knows how that would have worked out.)
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Phillip in L.A. > Friday • a day ago
I had the hots for Ambassador Kosh!
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Friday > Phillip in L.A. • 17 hours ago
Boys are weird. :) Besides, they're *all* Kosh, darnit. :)
I don't think I really had crushes on anyone in that series actually, (If I 'got the hots' it would be newsworthy and probably not about TV characters, :) ) I'd had a childhood crush on Sheridan's actor (From 'Scarecrow and Mrs King, ' of all things, but I always crushed on couples, how bi is this that.) Ivanova reminded me of my sister too much to crush on. :)
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sherman > another_steve • 2 days ago
I posted this before. I saw it on a Perry Mason episode last year.
Della- "Perry, I know you're busy but there is a young couple in the outer office and they'd like to see you. They say it's very urgent".
Perry- "I am. Quite busy."
Della- "She's quite pretty."
Perry- (big smile comes on his face) "I don't suppose you noticed what the young man looked like?"
Years ago before I knew Burr was gay that would have sailed right over my head. Now I can just imagine the fun he had with it.
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yosef > another_steve • a day ago
There's a 1966 episode of The Munsters ("Just Another Pretty Face") where Herman is briefly turned into a woman (physically) by Grandpa in the lab. Earlier in the episode, the family is horrified when another lab accident had made Herman look "normal" (like Fred Gwynne), but they don't really seem to mind him changing into a woman. TV's first same-sex marriage?
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another_steve > yosef • a day ago
Lol. Love it, yosef.
The Herman Munster character was written as a rather fey type, when you think about it. As in "excessively refined." Even when Herman tries to butch it up, he comes across as bumbling and somewhat "unmasculine."
Wonderful series, that.
The 60s was a very good decade for American TV.
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coram nobis > another_steve • 2 days ago
I sort of wondered about Ian Holm's character in the first "Alien" film. And that phallic-faced little creature that was close to John Hurt's heart.
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Traxley Launderette • 2 days ago
Maybe these ARE the droids you're looking for...
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Ernest Endevor • 2 days ago
Oh thank God. It's been keeping me awake at night.
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Zhenren • 36 minutes ago
Gay aliens ....who sez beings from across the universe even have dycks? Maybe they bud like trees.
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MBear • 4 hours ago
Yeah, and Jar Jar Abrams will unceremoniously take the "gay" out of context in yet another unconnected, extraneous, and wholly disjointed WTF moment.
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ian • 17 hours ago
Cynical Gay baiting. He knows a gay character will end up on the cutting room floor. He can then blame the studio heads for being too cautious and cowardly while he can take credit for being pro-LGBT.
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kaydenpat • 18 hours ago
I can hear the screams of despair and anguish from the homophobes already. Lol.
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Lantor • a day ago
Had I been 4 when VII came out, I think I would have had a major crush on Poe (not that I don't now)
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Zhenren • a day ago
More reasons to avoid Disney and it's crappy products.
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WNY > Zhenren • a day ago
Because the next Star Wars film may include some gay characters?
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Zhenren > WNY • 35 minutes ago
Because Disney has no imagination. What makes you think beings from across the universe have dycks and/or puzzies?
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kanehau • a day ago
Ja Ja The Hut?
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Ogre Magi > kanehau • a day ago
His brother Ziro was gay
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James • a day ago
I wonder if Star Wars will be like Harry Potter, where JK Rowling said in an interview that Dumbledore is gay despite not ever mentioning that in the books.
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Franck P. Rabeson > James • 19 hours ago
Star Wars already has over a dozen gay characters in its current continuity (i.e. the Disney continuity, not the pre-Disney Legends continuity). Two of them are even POV characters in their respective appearances.
The only barrier they haven’t dared cross yet is to have one on screen.
(Note that in the current continuity, same-sex marriage has been shown to be legal and completely normal within the Empire, with the implication that the Rebels are no different in that regard.)
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Friday > James • a day ago
Well, with Dumbledore, his personal life and even much of what he was doing was pretty much an unknown to the characters and all, he being sort of a fixture and all. Having had a kind of tragic romance in the past kind of makes him that solitary sage figure in a sense though. Characters can have that kind of depth without it being explicit *why.*
Still haven't actually caught the new movie, so I think a lot will depend how big the cast of characters actually is, when it comes to how many subplots and all.
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Edmund Allin > Friday • a day ago
New Star Wars or new Rowling film?
If the first, are you based at McMurdo? :p
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Friday > Edmund Allin • a day ago
Hrm? Nah, just don't get out to the movies much and it's been a crazy few months. Didn't intend to miss it, though it may still be showing around here somewhere. I don't think the new Rowling film's actually out for some time yet.
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pablo • a day ago
I thought Star Wars had gay characters covered with C3PO?
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Andrea_Rae • a day ago
So will it be racist if a minority is the bottom?
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Randolph Finder • a day ago
With our luck, it will be because we have a Hutt character who refers to Jabba as his mother...
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JVB • a day ago
Well there is a gay porn parody of Star Wars, so the characters are certainly gay!
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Jmdintpa • a day ago
uhhhh Helloooooo CP3O !!!!
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TheSpinMonkey • a day ago
C3PO and Chewie don't count??
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BeaverTales • a day ago
Hollywood blockbusters were first established by a man named D.W. Griffiths. He became very wealthy after Birth of a Nation was released in 1915. In current dollars, only Avatar and Titanic have earned more money worldwide.. The film was about the heroism of the KKK, and was the biggest cinema release in history (eclipsing all talkies) until Gone with the Wind was released in 1939...which eclipsed Wizard of Oz in profits - released in technicolor a few months earlier - Southern Christianists had set the thematic tone of cinema for decades to come.
http://time.com/3729807/d-w-gr...
Both movies celebrated the superiority of straight white Protestant men and the inferiority of Jews, blacks, non-mainlineProtestants and women. The demonizing of LGBT folk in cinema began with films mocking transvestism and transgenderism in 1915. These evolved from comedies into dramas featuring tragic gay characters who were usually suicidal and/or homicidal misfits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
It only took 100 years for a large blockbuster to challenge this formula for profitability. The culture of Hollywood has always been and remains a reflection of both the cultural Zeitgeist and of American attitudes. This movie will one day be perceived as seminal cinema demonstrating our evolving post religious mindset
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Robincho > BeaverTales • a day ago
I prefer the semenal cinema of a Joe Gage retrospective...
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Phillip in L.A. > Robincho • a day ago
Saw a great double-feature with El Paso Wrecking Co. and Closed Set, at the gorgeous deco Vista Theater in LA, when I was about 15.
No, they didn't check IDs in the late '70s!
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DumbHairyApe > Robincho • a day ago
I see what you did there.
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Joe knows who I am. • 2 days ago
Oh no! They've ruined the franchise!!!
Just kidding. Long overdue.
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Michael Alden • 2 days ago
This is exciting first we find out Latinos/Native Americans basically made out of Earth with Poe. now we find out the gay genes weren't bred out of existence.
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Michael Rush • 2 days ago
What do we really know about Chewbacca's sexuality ?
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Reality.Bites > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
Star Wars Christmas special. Wife named Malla, and his son Lumpy.
Watch at your own risk. Also stars Bea Arthur, Art Carney and Harvey Korman. And Jefferson Starship
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BeccaM > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
Or: http://www.rifftrax.com/the-st...
(I'm not affiliated with them, but I found it the only tolerable way to watch it. Additional alcoholic lubrication does help, too.)
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Reality.Bites > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Much like a Republican debate, there isn't enough booze in the world to get me through it more than one time!
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Mark_in_MN > Reality.Bites • 2 days ago
Before the videos of this started to appear, I had almost come to doubt my memory that it had actually happened. Watch at your own risk is good advice.
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BeccaM > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
That he's a nudist, much to the embarrassment of his family back home on Kashyyyk.
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motordog > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
Well, he has a wife and son, but we all know that doesn't necessarily preclude him being at least bisexual.
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Reality.Bites > motordog • 2 days ago
Sorry I didn't see your answer when I posted mine much later.
(But my link is to the whole sorry mess)
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Michael Rush > motordog • 2 days ago
Were they in the Star Wars Christmas Special ?
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motordog > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
Oh, my yes...you haven't seen it? I recommend at least one viewing...you may want some alcohol (or something stronger) on hand, btw.
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BeccaM > motordog • 2 days ago
There's a Rifftrax version done by the MST3K guys. I recommend it as the only version which will not induce raving insanity.
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Reality.Bites > BeccaM • 2 days ago
Seconded. And as a bonus, it has the original commercials, including the classic "Look for the Union Label."
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motordog > BeccaM • 2 days ago
stir whip stir whip whip whip stir...oye vey
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Lazycrockett > motordog • 2 days ago
Be like Leia and snort some lines before.
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Doug105 > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
Furry?
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Friday • 2 days ago
The thing about Star Wars having basically flunked the Bechdel test, (ie ever having two female characters interacting over something besides a man,) ...it never particularly struck me that no one was gay, cause even romance at all only ever came up in terms of the Skywalker line anyway.
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Kruhn • 2 days ago
Well, the Star Wars Story Group has already introduced a gay character in the Aftermath novel. Since the Story Group is part of the Star Wars Universe, the jump from book to film shouldn't be too difficult. In fact, one of the characters in the book is a fighter pilot in The Force Awakens.
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Frostbite > Kruhn • 2 days ago
And for what it's worth, the mmorpg has plenty of gay and bisexual characters.
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Lionel Leston > Frostbite • 2 days ago
Lol, yeah...the fundie freak out over the KOTOR games by bioware. It's terrible that players can opt for same-sex romances in the games but it's perfectly ok to Force-choke or electrocute your enemies as a Sith./s
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Phillip in L.A. > Lionel Leston • a day ago
OMG, KOTOR such an awesome game! Think I have the original box and discs around here somewhere--maybe I'll play again!
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Franck P. Rabeson > Kruhn • 19 hours ago
There are actually far more than that already in Disney’s new Star Wars continuity. Aftermath has three gay characters appear on page, with another two mentioned. A lesbian character is the POV character for parts of the Lords of the Sith novel. And Marvel’s Lando mini-series has a tragic gay couple.
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Peter Cat (Poot) • a day ago
Good,it's nice to hear that but I hope some fans won't get upset because the latest one was amazing,BB8 is my favorite character *-*
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Peter Cat (Poot) > Guest • a day ago
quali sei ? col profilo di kesha o katy perry ? :P
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Peter Cat (Poot) > Guest • a day ago
okay,ti aggiungo subito
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Explorations • a day ago
Inclusion = seeing that all different kinds of people or beings can bring different aspects of wonder and vitality to reality..and what more could you ask for in a space opera?
Kudos to JJ's statement. I hope it comes to fruition.
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Veylon • 2 days ago
I thought 3-10% of Star Wars characters were already gay? It's not like it's a relevant attribute outside of romance.
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coram nobis > Veylon • 2 days ago
C3PO seemed a blend of Mr. Humphries (Are You Being Served) and Edward Everett Horton (Fred Astaire musicals, passim).
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motordog > coram nobis • 2 days ago
I saw a long time ago where someone took the scene where C3PO tries to gain entrance to Jabba's desert fortress and dubbed over the alien language he speaks with gay polari....
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coram nobis > motordog • 2 days ago
Probably not the Bad Lip Reading, where C3PO talks in a curry-flavored accent.
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Austin McHenry • 2 days ago
Gay characters in Star Wars, eh? Serious question: HUMAN characters? or just some flying octopoids that communicate with jets of colored fluid?
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Michael Rush > Austin McHenry • 2 days ago
did you know - octopus has a sex arm !
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JCF > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
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motordog > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
Pff...every hear of hentai?
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Franck P. Rabeson > Austin McHenry • 19 hours ago
The canon novels and comics (i.e. those by Disney, who are official as far as the movies are concerned) already have close to a dozen gay characters. All but two of them are human.
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Friday > Austin McHenry • 2 days ago
Well, it'd have to be at least human-*like* characters. I'm pretty sure the full-face latex or CGI critters wouldn't really register either way. :)
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Sporkfighter > Friday • 2 days ago
I don't know about his sexual orientation, but Jabba the Hut would make a fine Republican presidential candidate.
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Reality.Bites > Sporkfighter • 2 days ago
And would endorse Trump after he dropped out. (I've seen that movie already)
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On Friday, Indonesia’s former Information and Communications Minister Tifatul Sembering, tweeted, “A saying of the Prophet [Mohamed]: Whomever you find committing the acts of the community of Lot (homosexual) should be put to death.” Sembering is now a member of Parliament from the Islamist Prosperous Justice Party. His tweet is the latest example of a rise in anti-LGBT rhetoric by high-profile politicians in an uproar that began in January. On Monday, Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu said the LGBT community is more dangerous than nuclear weapons, because “it skews the mindset of our nation away from our base ideology.”
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pickypecker • 2 days ago
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Gest2016 > pickypecker • 2 days ago
Not much will to co-exist in Muslim majority countries, in fact quite the opposite. Seperation of church and state was the crowning achievment of our founding fathers, one I doubt any existing Muslim majority country could or would ever attempt.
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Librarykid > pickypecker • 2 days ago
Yeah, how would he feel about people calling for his death?
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Nic Peterson > Librarykid • 2 days ago
Dear Ken Mehlman,
The political strategy you created in this country has now been exported and will now be used against a population that have ZERO voice and everything to loose. I hope you choke on your cocktails and caviar for the rest of your life. It would be a small price to pay and not nearly enough considering the WORLDWIDE suffering that you have brought upon our people.
Sincerely,
The rest of us. Worldwide.
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Joe knows who I am. > Nic Peterson • 2 days ago
Now there's a man who deserves inoperable brain cancer.
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radiofreerome > Joe knows who I am. • 2 days ago
As was said of Lee Atwater, I don't think cancer can live in there.
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Doug105 > pickypecker • 2 days ago
Who pays ......
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PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
One more time, Sodom was destroyed because of greed.
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shivadog > PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
I watched a show about Sodom on the History channel or some such channel, and at the end they said "unfortunately the Bible was not clear about why Sodom was destroyed" Yea, except for the part where it says "Now this was the sin of you sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned. They did not help the poor and needy."
It fucking spells it out. How can they say it is unclear? Not that I believe this shit either way, but it pisses me off that people pretend it was about gay people when the Bible clearly states what it was about.
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Doug105 > shivadog • 2 days ago
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Nic Peterson > shivadog • 2 days ago
They were republicans, dear. Have an exit strategy is all I can say.
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Blake Jordan > shivadog • 2 days ago
The supporters of White Jesus are the true Sodomites, they are inhospitable and hateful bunch!!!
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Homo Erectus > PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
And Lot was a heterosexual who impregnated both his virgin daughters.
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j.martindale > Homo Erectus • 2 days ago
And the whole story is a nasty fairy tale.
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StillALiberal > Homo Erectus • 2 days ago
Yeah. People who take lessons in sexual morality from a guy who impregnated both his daughters then claims that it was their idea and he was too drunk to remember, people who look up to Lot are totally messed up.
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Harley > StillALiberal • 2 days ago
So Lot is fleeing Sodom from God's wrath in fire and brimstone and Lot brings enough liquor to get so drunk he didn't know he was impregnating his own daughters. PALEEZE.
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Steve Teeter > Harley • 2 days ago
If he was THAT drunk, how'd he get it up?
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Homo Erectus > Steve Teeter • 2 days ago
Viagra?
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grada3784 > Homo Erectus • a day ago
I should have read down 2 lines.
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grada3784 > Steve Teeter • a day ago
Viagra.
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grada3784 > Harley • a day ago
Not hard liquor. Wine and not even fortified wine - it was too early.
Speaking as a recovering drunk, I can say it's damned hard to drink to a blackout on just wine.
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Ernest Endevor > Homo Erectus • 2 days ago
After they got him drunk. Because ew.
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grada3784 > Ernest Endevor • a day ago
Could have been worse. Judah tried to get his daughter-in-law toasted after he impregnated her.
That was one hell of a kinky family.
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Capritaur > PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
God agreed to spare the city if they could find 10 righteous men, and they couldn't. If the abominable sin was homosexuality, where the heck did the babies in Sodom come from?
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I.Smith > Capritaur • a day ago
God seemed to not care about all the innocent children and unborn babies when he destroyed the city.
The only person who seemed to care was Lots wife, who God killed for having feelings and so that Lot could sleep with his daughters.
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Homo Erectus > Capritaur • 2 days ago
Surrogates?
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Rolf > Capritaur • a day ago
Pasturd Manning has the answer!
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grada3784 > Capritaur • a day ago
Remembering that the city included Lot's household, which if of the same size as Abraham's had to be about 1000 people. And none of them made the cut, either.
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TimCA > PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
You have twisted the true meaning of "holy" scripture. This is blasphemy. Now you must die! (snark)
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PLAINTOM > TimCA • 2 days ago
Just add that to list of reasons religious nuts want me dead. ;)
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Librarykid > TimCA • 2 days ago
I move to change the spelling to holey because of the lack of coherence and continuity.
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Johnny Wyeknot > PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
They will cling to their mistaken beliefs because it's easier than thinking.
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Matthew Delemos > Johnny Wyeknot • 2 days ago
And because they need someone to blame for their obvious failures.
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leastyebejudged > PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
And lack of hospitality - something that is extremely important when you are a desert community...
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Ernest Endevor > PLAINTOM • 2 days ago
Oh please. Get them to explain to you the two accounts of creation: A&E, both made from dust, breath of life, blow, go forth be fruitful and multiply; A&E, A first, names animals, gets lonesome, nap time, let's just pop out this rib and call it E, don't even THINK of touching anything below the chin.
WHICH IS IT? It can't be both. But none of them are even aware of the contradiction right there in Genesis, the rib account following right after the dust.
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e'ville_globeguy > Ernest Endevor • 2 days ago
That's always explained away citing the fact that Genesis is a combination of the Jewish texts and some completely different source of the story. (Which of course means that if one is the literal truth, the other isn't, which totally destroys the idea of a literal word-for-word Bible.) That's one thing.
But even worse are the major contradictions in the New Testament regarding the story of Christ's birth (two totally different stories), and in the resurrection stories told in all for gospels—all four very detailed, and not one of them agrees with the other three. I put the stories side-by-side once, and it's amazing how different they are.
So, the three biggest stories in the Bible—Creation, Christ's birth, and the Resurrection—all told multiple times with contradictory details. Yet, there are people who believe that "every word is true". If you believe that, either you haven't really read the Bible, or you have very low comprehension skills.
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Ernest Endevor > e'ville_globeguy • 2 days ago
Of course. To say nothing of Jesus' last words which entirely demolish the idea of the trinity.
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Jerry > e'ville_globeguy • 33 minutes ago
I started questioning religion at age 13 or 14, when religious grandparents paid me to read both OT and NT. If you read straight through, you immediately catch multiple inconsistencies and contradictions...that's why every preacher picks a verse from this book, skips to a verse from another, etc., to weave an entirely fictional tale that really isn't there. As for Genesis, those stories were altered by Hebrews to fit their own needs, from the much-earlier Sumerian and Babylonian stories. That's why their god is kind and loving one minute, and angry and vengeful the next...based on two different people in the original stories. There was also a lot of copying from Egyptian texts.
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sword > e'ville_globeguy • a day ago
The 'every word is true' only holds for those words that I chose to use. Dontcha know that?
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Librarykid > Ernest Endevor • 2 days ago
It was borrowed or stolen from other creation stories popular at the time in the region. If there were mistakes made in remembering it for years before writing it down, that's just too bad.
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sword > Librarykid • a day ago
As a little kid, I always wondered where on the Buddhist turtle's back Eden was located?
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camel54 > Librarykid • a day ago
A lot of these themes crop up in "creation" myths throughout the early civilisations in the area, some of the earliest being recorded in Sumerian texts from about 7000 years ago. (Even before Jesus was riding dinosaurs)
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Librarykid > camel54 • 15 hours ago
Jesus riding dinosaurs is my favorite story from 2 Corinthians.
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Ernest Endevor > Librarykid • 2 days ago
Of course. But the early editors didn't want to choose in case they chose the wrong one.
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Olterigo > PLAINTOM • a day ago
In Jewish theology, not in Muslim or Christian ones.
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Homo Erectus • 2 days ago
And our (republican) leaders aspire to be just like him.
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Blake Jordan > Homo Erectus • 2 days ago
While remaining white and christianist...
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Michael Rush • 2 days ago
The Bible says everyone is to be put to death for everything , the fact that there is anyone left means no one really ever followed the Bible .
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Strepsi > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
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Snarkaholic > Michael Rush • a day ago
You with the B.L.T. - up against the wall!!!!!
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GC > Michael Rush • 2 days ago
Everybody Must Get Stoned!
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Bill • 2 days ago
Do the heterosexuals who make these statements really not understand that when they use the bible to call for the death of gay people, and they do not simultaneously call for the death of heterosexual adulterers, heterosexual divorcees, and heterosexual unmarried non-virgins, what they are revealing is that this is about their bigotry and not their religion?
Are they really that stupid?
For a heterosexual to call for the death of gay people because of the bible, while not calling for the deaths of their own, how can anyone take them seriously?
Truly, TRULY pathetic.
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BeccaM > Bill • 2 days ago
Yes, they are both that stupid and that hypocritical. They call for the deaths, murders, and outright genocide of that which they perceive themselves not to be, for no reasons other than hatred and fear.
Why? Because acting on hate usually makes a person temporarily feel a false sense of power and control.
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Robert Conner > Bill • 2 days ago
These particular heterosexuals are using the Quran, not the Bible. Islam is the most toxic religion on earth. By far.
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David Walker > Bill • 2 days ago
Are they really that stupid? Maybe. "Yes" makes sense, but a person in power singling out a particular group to fear and hate tends to overlook what might refer to him or his people. Power and/or money.
How can anyone take them seriously? You need to muster a certain amount of sincerity in your hate voice, but then you're good. It helps, again, to be in power or "respected" for something.
Being a shit helps, too.
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Homo Erectus > Bill • 2 days ago
What makes you think he's heterosexual? (hint: most heterosexuals don't care if you're gay) ;-)
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Olterigo > Bill • a day ago
1. He is not relying on the Bible. He is relying on the Quran. Quran retells the story, specifically talking about homosexuality.
2. Plenty of people will take him seriously. He represents a party that is essentially Islamist, so - don't worry - they are for implementation of all that Quran requires as punishment for the adulterers as well, at least as far as the Indonesian Muslims are concerned.
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chicago dyke • 2 days ago
here's what's kinda fun about these bozos- they don't realize how stupid they sound to their own people, esp their own young people. every stupid religious bullshit argument that has ever been made by some gawd bothering type? demolished, donefuckedruined, and otherwise destroyed. all you have to do is go look it up for yourself with your phone.
who the fuck in this world really gives a shit about "Lot?" it's just getting harder and harder for me to understand the religious these days. i understand the grifter part. i understand the brainwashing part. but at a certain point unless you live in a cave you must know 1) some people out there are mocking your faith openly and getting away with it, no smiting, no hanging, no silencing. and b) google is faster than ever these days.
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camel54 > chicago dyke • a day ago
Not sure that this applies to Buddhists. They don't actually have a god per se, and a lot of them are really OK.
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Rolf > camel54 • a day ago
The Buddha only claimed to be a man that 'woke up' (budh). He said god(s), if they existed, were irrelevant to the process of liberation from suffering, and that it was up to each person to prove what he taught for themselves, and if it didn't work, to abandon it.
Yes, there is a lot of cultural baggage, religiosity and superstition that has become attached to Buddhism over the millennia, but at its core, what the Buddha actually taught, is a pragmatic philosophy, not a religion.
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MikeB > camel54 • a day ago
Buddhism is a simple way of life.
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shivadog • 2 days ago
Indonesia seems to be suffering from a severe case of "gay panic", I fear for the LGBT people there. I hope that reason and decency prevail, but reason and decency have a pretty poor track record against religious hatred.
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biki > shivadog • a day ago
The country must be facing dire financial and political issues to crank up the hate squad to this level. Anytime hate is dialed up the government is in trouble, which worries me to no end about what it is the GOP are afraid of.
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bkmn • 2 days ago
Religion is about controlling people.
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Jerry Hinnant • 2 days ago
And how many billions of in aid can we save by cutting of funds to all homophobic countries? Time to start putting some financial pressure on these folks cause trying to reason with them sure isn't working to well.
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David Walker > Jerry Hinnant • 2 days ago
I bet Tramp has a plan to deal with that. He has a plan for everything and isn't all that happy with the Mooslims.
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Jerry Hinnant > David Walker • 2 days ago
Even if he doesn't if anyone mentions it he will say he has one. No one will ever know what the plan is but he will have one He hasn't told a single idea about anything. Its like the family guy episode where Lois runs for mayor. Just says a lot of irrelevant buzz words and the crazies go wild.
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camel54 > Jerry Hinnant • a day ago
Problem is, your corporations invest heavily in these places. Much of Indonesia is currently being destroyed very rapidly to produce cheap palm oil, so you can all enjoy your Doritos. For every cent in aid you put in, you get a dollar out. If only it was so simple.
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Johnny Wyeknot > Jerry Hinnant • 2 days ago
It's certainly worth threatening them.
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AJD • 2 days ago
So it turns out that Indonesia is just as backward as the rest of the Muslim world... And this is right on the heals of ISIS' bombing in Jakarta. What a wonderful religion - inspiring terrorists to murder innocent people and then acting like the worst thing on earth is men sucking each other's dicks.
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Librarykid > AJD • 2 days ago
No one said it made sense. You just have to have faith, give money and obey.
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Octavio • 2 days ago
These guys need re programing.
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pickypecker > Octavio • 2 days ago
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Strepsi > pickypecker • 2 days ago
i actually L'ed Out Loud -- that's how i feel today!
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Stogiebear > Octavio • 2 days ago
I've got a couple sets of jumper cables.
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barracks9 > Stogiebear • 2 days ago
Go on...
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Robert Conner • 2 days ago
Indonesia has the largest Muslim population in the world. Why any of this insanity would come as a surprise is, well, a surprise. Every Islamic country is a human rights shithole.
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Ninja0980 • 2 days ago
Sad to say but a lot of the people in this country agree with him on that, and a couple of them are running for President.
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Gest2016 • 2 days ago
Gays will always be in danger in Muslim majority countries. I just got back from Bali and Jakarta and Bali still has a Hindu majority and they won't put up with the bullshit of the Abrahamic religions. I felt very uncomfortable in Jakarta where Muslims rule. I am not aniti-Muslim, I am anti-religion but I have observed wherever Muslims and political power overlap they just cant help themselves and seek to destroy the lives and dignity of gays, woman or anyone else that doesn't confirm to their brutal tribal code of conduct.
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rmthunter > Gest2016 • a day ago
That, in some form or other, is characteristic of the Abrahamic religions as a group: they are based on a rigidly patriarchal and authoritarian world view, and everyone must conform. Just take a look at our own Real Christians (TM).
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Paula • 2 days ago
Is there even a place the Indonesian Gays can flee to?
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bambinoitaliano > Paula • 2 days ago
There was already mass exodus of poor Indonesians to Malaysia in the last three decades that probably make up a chunk of the country population. The well educated one usually settled in western countries.
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TimCA > Paula • 2 days ago
I was wondering that too. If an Indonesian were accused of sodomy in those areas under Sharia law, I assume fleeing to Jakarta wouldn't help. Once in Jakarta, could that person be extradited back to Aceh? I don't know. I guess some other nations might take him/her under asylum if the person was able to exit the country.
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JD > Paula • 2 days ago
If they have the means: Australia. But East Timor and Papua New Guinea might be easier options.
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pch1013 > JD • 2 days ago
Australia has slammed its door to refugees. And PNG is also virulently homophobic.
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Silver Badger • 2 days ago
Perhaps it's time to start setting up the infrastructure for some serious asylum for gay people fleeing for their lives.
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leastyebejudged > Silver Badger • 2 days ago
I know, right ? ya' think ?
But those are not just FOREIGNERS - they're GAY FOREIGNERS...
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Silver Badger > leastyebejudged • a day ago
whats your point?
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grada3784 > Silver Badger • a day ago
Double pushback from the Holy Horrors.
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John • 2 days ago
And once again we learn the eternal truth: no matter what religion it is, religious conservatives are the scum of the earth. Hope a suicide bomber kills that jackass.
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Friday > John • 2 days ago
Still always the same few related authoritarian religions, really. In a very real sense, they're fighting over absolute power, and we all know what that does, to any religion or none.
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jomicur • 2 days ago
Maybe he could move to this country and run for the senate from Texas. He'd be a shoo-in.
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Homo Erectus > jomicur • 2 days ago
Never gonna happen - he's too brown.
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grada3784 > Homo Erectus • a day ago
Maybe he can get a painting done by the artist who painted Jindal.
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Paige Turner • 2 days ago
....And they are our next door neighbour down here in Oceania/South Pacific (not the musical) and we struggle along trying to deal with this nonsense from them.
Indonesia has 250 Million people but we do more trade with New Zealand with less than 5 million people.
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Matthew Delemos • 2 days ago
I am sick of hearing death threats by proxy, but since they all originate from brainwashed cowards, I can handle it for now.
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BuffaloDan • 2 days ago
And we have a clown car full of presidential candidates who wish to restrict immigration to the "Land of the Free"?!
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Chuck Anziulewicz • 2 days ago
Pious bastard ...
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Andrea_Rae • 2 days ago
why in the hell is that piece of meat man property in the background allowed to show her face or have a cell phone?!?! fucking wrong. . . .
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Snarkaholic > Andrea_Rae • a day ago
If she drove herself to that meeting, expect a stoning as soon as it ends!
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sword • a day ago
I keep reading in the mainstream media about how tolerant Indonesia is. Ache Province which received billions in aid after the Tsunami, has already shown it bigoted face to the world.
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Snarkaholic • 2 days ago
Tell Tiffy to install a light in that closet he's hiding in...that shirt is revolting!
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NancyP • 2 days ago
It always amazes me how people can be distracted from the real issues. You'd think that everything was peaches and cream in Indonesia, everyone in a McMansion and SUV, eating prime beef every day, kids all above average, etc.
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rabbit_ears • 2 days ago
I dub him "Distasteful Semprini".
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Homo Erectus > rabbit_ears • 2 days ago
Sounds like a week-old Italian dish.
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Robincho • 2 days ago
Say this to my face, you chickenshitted twittering twat. I will pick you up and snap you in two like a fucking twig...
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Matthew Delemos > Robincho • 2 days ago
It is tempting to consider our growing community might get more respect with fear and violence, but it's a short term solution and we can be smarter than than bigoted cowards trying to deflect poor governance and responsibility by blaming gays. That being said, it doesn't hurt to blow off a little steam.
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Bob_Seattle • 2 days ago
I wish there was a way to help LGBT folks in Indonesia escape to this country. But we can't seem to bring ourselves to help Syrians and they are actively being killed...not quite there in Indonesia so it seems unlikely we'd let a bunch of them in for being a persecuted minority. Sigh
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Friday > Bob_Seattle • 2 days ago
I kind of get the impression they say stupid shit like this just cause apart from various thugs and a few cities, that they really just want to pretend they have that much control over Indonesia.
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Librarykid > Bob_Seattle • 2 days ago
ISIS might try to mix terrorists in with the gay Indonesians if they had a place to go, like they vowed to do with the Syrians.
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Strepsi • 2 days ago
"Islamist Prosperous Justice Party" =
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Doug105 > Strepsi • 2 days ago
They got lessons in name branding from conservative research groups.
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Robert Conner • 19 hours ago
Interesting picture. Muslims spouting hatred while using phones they didn't invent, computers they didn't invent, on the internet they didn't invent. There should be a rule that if you don't live in the 21st century, you don't get to use any of the cool stuff from the 21st century.
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biki • a day ago
Hey, OT but has anyone heard from Jalapeno lately?
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TuuxKabin > biki • a day ago
I asked the same question the other day and got this reply:
Still discus hacked, twitter busy see: @thirtybirdy.
I don't have twitter, if you do, and contact him please give him regards from me.
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biki > TuuxKabin • a day ago
I don't have twitter either. It's great to know he's ok, the last he posted he was ill with a flu. So, his disqus was hacked? how does that even happen?
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TuuxKabin > biki • a day ago
Got me Biki. I don't know. Sam_Handwich posted that quite some time ago, mid January I think. It's odd. Every now and again while us monkeys are flying all over the link I realize JalapenoBusiness is missing. Hope it doesn't impact his campaign. :-)
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Blake Jordan • 2 days ago
Come at us one on one you piece of shit, and you would surely be the one put down...
But of course your kind would not do that, you would rather gang up on us and use weapons... f-ing cowards!!
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Jack M. • 2 days ago
The LGBTQ Task Force will react swiftly and decisively by protesting against Israel.
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Dale • 2 days ago
Go for it, religious asswipe. Try to kill me.
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justmeeeee • 2 days ago
Bali, bye!
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JT • 2 days ago
He thinks he's recalling the passage but he's only sembering it.
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Zhenren • a day ago
This is what American homosexuals will have to look forward to if the Democratic Communist Party keeps allowing rugsniffers to enter our country by the thousands.
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Ted Cruz Fires Communications Director For Lying That Marco Rubio Had Renounced His Christianity
February 22, 2016 2016 Election, Infighting Is Funny
Ted Cruz today fired his campaign’s communications director Rick Tyler – the guy in charge of social media, among other things – for claiming that Marco Rubio had renounced his Christianity by mocking the bible. The Cruz campaign has repeatedy lied about his GOP rivals and all of those lies resulted in nothing more than shrugs and more lies by Ted Cruz. But lying about Jesus, that is apparently the one thing that Cruz will take action on.
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“We are not a campaign that is going to question the faith of another candidate. Even if it was true, our campaign should not have sent it. That’s why I’ve asked for Rick Tyler’s resignation,” Cruz said. “The standards of conduct in this campaign have been made absolutely clear.”
Tyler originally had linked to a story showing a video of Rubio walking by a Cruz staffer and Cruz’s father Rafael, who were reading the Bible in a hotel lobby. The original subtitles on the video showed Rubio saying to the staffer, “Got a good book there, not many answers in it.”
But after Tyler linked to the story, Rubio communications director Alex Conant tweeted out the same video with what he says are the correct subtitles — and they tell a very different story.
In them, Rubio actually says of the Bible, “All the answers are in there.” Conant called the move “another dirty trick” by the Cruz campaign.
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crewman • 6 days ago
He was fired for breaking the cardinal GOP rule: don't get caught.
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Duane Dimitrov > crewman • 6 days ago
I'm sure he'll land on his feet. You know he's already applying for Wingnut Welfare.
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HanyBaal > crewman • 6 days ago
Funny you mentioned getting caught. In one Ex-Muslim forum, the difference between guilt and shame came up. The first is an internal remorse & feeling of not living to ones own standards/values/conscious, while shame is a about how we appear to others. It seems Middle Eastern religions cultivate the latter and it requires getting caught to activate it. Hence, no foul unless one is caught
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swirl • 6 days ago
They won't question the faith of another candidate, but the sitting president is fair game.
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clay > swirl • 6 days ago
and the Pope; don't forget the Pope knows nothing about Christianity or world news.
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grada3784 > clay • 6 days ago
But Trump was going for the Evangelical vote. And everybody knows that Catholics and Evangelicals are only queer for each other when opposing gay marriage and abortions. Otherwise, they're damning each other as heretics.
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Chris Baker > swirl • 6 days ago
You notice how Cruz said "Even it if was true..." I get the feeling that Cruz was not trying to completely deny the falsehood.
(Plus, what is more offensive to me is that it shows his ignorance of the subjunctive mood).
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MB > Chris Baker • 6 days ago
He dun tuuk hiz gramure lessunz frum Jodie-gurl.
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Marla R. Stevens > Chris Baker • 6 days ago
That was my big eyebrow raiser, too. It's apparently cost him some voters beyond those he lost due to Tyler, too. Well-deserved for that slimy non-apology apology.
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Dramphooey > Chris Baker • 6 days ago
Cruz is repulsive and so are his followers. I don't know why our society permits this. Do we have to bring dueling back?
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Jodie > swirl • 6 days ago
At least Ted don't whine like that POS donald.
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TuuxKabin > Jodie • 6 days ago
Exactly, Ted doesn't whine, he sounds like a cat with its tail caught in the door.
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coram nobis > TuuxKabin • 6 days ago
More like a whining parrot. Sarah Palin's the one that sounds like a whining cat.
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TuuxKabin > coram nobis • 6 days ago
True. My hearing aid gives me more feed back with Palin's voice.
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
Your poor grammar is quite, ummm, enlightening.
Why am I not shocked ???
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Jodie > MB • 6 days ago
I don't capitalize the name donald.
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Homo Erectus > Jodie • 6 days ago
Why don't you and Donald get a room and get it over with.
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
Nor do you understand the proper use of contractions.
Y'all shudda dun said "donald dont neven whine..."
* Pardon us Ma'm, your dumbass redneck is showing.
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TrollopeReader > MB • 6 days ago
Oddly, (or perhaps not) her style of writing is very similar to the comments on al.com (Alabama) at the time of the court decisions and all of "Justice" Moore's shenanigans. Poor grammar, awful spelling and a lack of sentence structure .
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Homo Erectus > TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
The hallmark of a Fox News overdose.
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BeccaM > Jodie • 6 days ago
That's a rather childish attitude, grandma.
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clay • 6 days ago
"Even if it was true"
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Joe in PA > clay • 6 days ago
LOVE that. The classic "I'm sorry you were offended" apology. :)
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TrollopeReader > Joe in PA • 6 days ago
no no...you forgot the important "if" ..as in, "I'm sorry IF any of you were offended" (as in of course someone was offended, as an apology is being issued) !! :-)
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MarkOH > clay • 6 days ago
Bingo. They aren't back pedaling because they erred. They were called out on it so they threw Tyler under the bus.
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Strepsi > MarkOH • 6 days ago
Mean Girl Tyler had it coming!
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Jodie > MarkOH • 6 days ago
and if he didnt fire him for it you would b* tch about him not firing him. Its kinda a no win situation. I dont know why donald can make tweets about Cubans and insult them and its not "breaking news"
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MarkOH > Jodie • 5 days ago
"and if he didnt fire him for it you would b* tch about him not firing him. "
Sigh, hardly. Are you angry at the world because you seem to be lashing out, idiotically.
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Michael Smith • 6 days ago
The GOP race is a dumpster fire right now.
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PLAINTOM > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
Anyone have a can of gas I could borrow ?
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TrollopeReader > PLAINTOM • 6 days ago
lots of wells in Texas just sitting there unused .... you could probably borrow a whole oil field!
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Prion > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
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j.martindale > Prion • 6 days ago
"Democrat"? Oh, Prion. Get a life.
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Prion > j.martindale • 6 days ago
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j.martindale > Prion • 6 days ago
Hillary is a winner. Sanders will lose.
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Marla R. Stevens > j.martindale • 5 days ago
That is only a fraction of the point. It is important for Bernie supporters to stand firm for him, even if he hasn't a snowball's chance (which is not certain) because there is much needed party reform to do at the convention-- action that will benefit our community and which is needed to stop the sort of anti-democratic rule by elites, rules changes designed to favor the chairperson's choice of candidates, and keep the party from drifting even further to the right and under corporate control. After the convention, we'll talk.
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Strepsi > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
I liked this:
"It was around this time that the moderator interjected: “We’re in danger of driving this into the dirt.” In danger? The Republican race is a tire fire wrapped in a train wreck inside The Adventures of Pluto Nash. We’re watching as one of the world’s most successful political parties goes Dumpster diving for a leader."
http://www.macleans.ca/politic...
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Phillip in L.A. > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
They'd probably prefer a dumpster fire to what they've got now!
(At least a dumpster fire is contained.) ;}
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Robincho > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
Thank you. That's one of my fave metaphors...
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Rex > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
Let's make 'smores!
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OrliJoe in Fla > Rex • 6 days ago
The smoke is too toxic.
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Rex > OrliJoe in Fla • 6 days ago
Not if we feed them to the repubs.
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OrliJoe in Fla > Rex • 6 days ago
Oh, you mean like in Flint, MI ?
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JT > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
Their selection process is like dumpster diving.
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Just Sayin' > Michael Smith • 6 days ago
This news was bad for Bernie Sanders as well since he was giving a speech/press conference which was cut off the announcement of the resignation. Bernie is having alot of bad luck lately but I respect aspects of his message that are more realistic...
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John Calendo • 6 days ago
BusTED.
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Paula > John Calendo • 6 days ago
Hopefully soon, convicTED.
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RaygunsGoZap > Paula • 6 days ago
DeparTED
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yetanotherLaura > RaygunsGoZap • 6 days ago
At the least, resoundingly defeaTED.
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Pollos Hermanos • 6 days ago
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pickypecker > Pollos Hermanos • 6 days ago
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StillALiberal • 6 days ago
I wonder if Tyler will now turn on his ex-boss since as comms director he probably knows where the bodies are buried (that's a metaphor people....). Now where's my popcorn...
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PLAINTOM > StillALiberal • 6 days ago
Not unless he has a death wish.
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David Walker > PLAINTOM • 6 days ago
Or a book deal.
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Phillip in L.A. > StillALiberal • 6 days ago
Might not be a metaphor in this situation!
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Ian > StillALiberal • 6 days ago
In reality comm folks jobs are taking the fall. I'm sure he's already been prepared a nice landing. He'll be fine.
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Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
OT but this was so much fun to read.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/0...
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Todd20036 > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
When even the Newt appears reasonable....
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Bad Tom • 6 days ago
With the corrected subtitles, Rubio actually says of the Bible, “All the answers are in there.”
This doesn't actually make me feel any better about Rubio. The first, fake, quote was far more reality-based.
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Doesn't surprise me a bit that Cruz decided he needed to throw someone under the bus. Look for more bus wheel fodder from Cruzland whenever the kitchen gets too hot.
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another_steve > Bad Tom • 6 days ago
Well, the bibles of all the different world religions do have some nice things to say and offer some good advice. One has to read selectively, though.
Regarding the Judeo-Christian Bible, it has some lovely passages. More importantly though, it contains answers to many crossword puzzle clues.
If you don't know your key bible verses, you'll never be able to complete a really really tough crossword puzzle.
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GC > another_steve • 6 days ago
And the scriptures of the different religions are all crystal clear on which passages are bright, shining, good, just, and moral commands to be taken literally, which passages are metaphor or parable, which passages perhaps applied to a particular ancient time and place but not anymore, and which passages of their divine, inerrant scripture couldn't possibly be what their good, just, and loving god meant to say. /s
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another_steve > GC • 6 days ago
When I was growing up in a Jewish household in New York City, my mother always disregarded the Leviticus prohibition against eating pork.
I mean... you live in a city with some of the best Chinese restaurants in the world and you're not going to eat pork?
Please.
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GC > another_steve • 6 days ago
Exactly!
I grew up with Jewish parents who were clear that we had every right to [edit: and were meant to] use our God-given brains to decide about such rules.
Or, as Mordecai Kaplan said, "The past should have a vote but not a veto."
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another_steve > GC • 6 days ago
Thank you, GC. Beautiful. :-)
You may be aware that only 10 percent or so of American Jews are Orthodox. The remainder of "practicing" Jews are either Conservative, Reform, or Reconstructionist. All three of these non-Orthodox branches are much more "tolerant," if you will, of the application of judgment, good sense, and intuition in the leading of one's life. More tolerant of (as you put it) the use of our brains.
I'm not a practicing Jew, but I'm very culturally Jewish.
Into it mainly for the food, the language, and the shared genetic and cultural experience. ;-)
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GC > another_steve • 6 days ago
And let's not forget humanistic Jews, who do just fine without God language in their rituals.
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olandp > Bad Tom • 6 days ago
Well Tom, you aren't the target audience for all of this nonsense. We can just watch from the sidelines while they fight with each other. Ted is trying to bolster his cred so now when he gets caught in another dirty trick he'll be able to say that he fired this guy.
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Bad Tom > olandp • 6 days ago
I'm not his target audience, but Cruz seems unaware that I have both a long term memory, and I vote.
And, Jesus won't save him. Either because Cruz is a lying liar who is trying to grift his way into the White House, or because Jesus doesn't exist.
Either works for me.
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perversatile > Bad Tom • 6 days ago
I cannot believe the low quality, nursery school caliber of shade that Teds is paying to have professionally thrown. I have seen more shit stirred with a toothpick! Their efforts are clumsy and artless AND they get caught every time! Did Ted hire his team of political saboteurs from a temp. agency?
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coram nobis > Bad Tom • 6 days ago
Makes me feel more leery. So Rubio thinks King James I can tell us how to govern.
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Homo Erectus > coram nobis • 6 days ago
Actually, it's in two Corinthians.
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grada3784 > Homo Erectus • 6 days ago
I thought it was the deuce of Corinthians.
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Homo Erectus > grada3784 • 6 days ago
Douche of Corinthians.
douche:
a word to describe an individual who has shown them self to be very brainless in one way or another, thus comparing them to the cleansing product for vaginas.
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Jodie > Bad Tom • 6 days ago
That SORRY POS trump is a LIAR and hes already saying that Rubio isn't a natural born citizen. Its odd that an employee of Cruz can tweet and end up in the news and fired but TRUMP tweets INSULTS, Says the P word on tv at a rally and accuses others of stuff and no one bats an eye.
I dont care who wins as long as its NOT TRUMP.
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clay > Jodie • 6 days ago
Oh, no! Not the P-word!
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TrollopeReader > clay • 6 days ago
meow!
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Jodie > clay • 6 days ago
In front of kids? really is that well mannered? I cuss too but not around kids and i try to act like i had some raising when i 'm in public. Has Obama used that word while speaking? He knows better.
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
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Homo Erectus > MB • 6 days ago
She won't get it.
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grada3784 > Jodie • 6 days ago
Most kids learn to cuss from their parents and other adult family members. They probably heard of pussy by age 7.
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TrollopeReader > Jodie • 6 days ago
is POS "well mannered" ?
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Homo Erectus > clay • 6 days ago
But Cruz always says the "C" word (christian).
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grada3784 > Jodie • 6 days ago
I'm sure you're clutching your pearls while reclining on your fainting couch.
Quick, get the smelling salts.
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olandp > Jodie • 6 days ago
Jodie honey, I think you are lost. Now go find your way back to whatever rock you crawled out from under.
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Ninja0980 • 6 days ago
He got fired for one reason and one reason only, he got caught.
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Jodie > pickypecker • 6 days ago
Trump acts like a cry baby. He tweets insults all the time and Rubio wont stand up to him. The media calls trump out he throws a fit like a child.
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
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Strepsi > Jodie • 6 days ago
that's a good pun!
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coram nobis > JT • 6 days ago
Yes, and even ahead of his mentor, Richard E. Nixon. Even the dialogue suited our times.
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ARCHIE: (pointing) That's what determines the morality in this house!
MEATHEAD: (incredulous) The TV set?
ARCHIE: No! The bible! Edith, what's the bible doing on the television set?
EDITH: It kept falling off the refrigerator!
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Homo Erectus > JT • 6 days ago
Even Archie could be embarrassed on occasion.
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oikos • 6 days ago
'Even if it was true."
Always cast aspersions upon your adversary, even in faux apology.
Rule 237, Atwater GOP smearbook.
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Rebecca Gardner > oikos • 6 days ago
I thought we had to cast aspersions on our asparagus?
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oikos > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
That's Goobert Gohmer.
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LovesIrony • 6 days ago
he can't pick a campaign spokesperson, yet thinks he should pick a supreme court nominee.
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MrSkippy • 6 days ago
I imagine this conversation went like this:
Rando: "Holy shit you guys! Rubio's team can do subtitles to!"
Cruz: "What? I thought only we had that technology."
Rando2: "I keep telling you that it's not some super secret technology. I mean for
Fuck's Sake you can turn it on on your TV for like ANY channel. It's how deaf people watch TV."
Cruz: "Don't lie! Everyone knows deaf people can't watch TV... they can't see!"
Rando: "Ummmm yeah. K. So anyway, Rubio's team countered us with a video!"
Cruz: "Shit... I gotta make it look like I care. This is like the 2nd time we've lied about a candidate."
Rando2 muttering "or the 80th... whatever"
Cruz: "RICK! Get in here!"
Rick: "Yeah Rafael?"
Cruz: "I told you to call me Ron... er TED. TED. You CALL ME TED MOTHERFUCKER!"
Rick: "Right, Ron...Ted... whatever?"
Cruz: "Look this is bad. Rubio's team stole our subtitle technology."
Rick: "Subtitle tech..."
Rando2: "Just go with it... you know you won't get him to understand it."
Rick: "Right, so they 'stole our subtitle technology' what about it?"
Cruz: "Well, eventually we have to find the mold and plug the dyke but first I gotta make it look like I care."
Rando: "Find the mold and plug the dike... do you mean you want to 'find the MOLE and plug the LEAK' or are you suggesting we should kill a lesbian?"
Cruz: "You know, whatever... I'm good with that. But Rick... I have to fire you man. I gotta make it look like I care about this."
Rick: "Oh thank you Jeebus!"
Cruz: "I know man, I know it's hard but you know I gotta put myself first. But I'll totally hook you up with a cabinet position when I get elected."
Rick: "Yeah no man. This I uhhh... totally understand. I mean what with your addiction to blow and underage hookers I know you gotta protect your image... I get it man."
Cruz: "Great! Thanks. Now, WHO THE FUCK LET THOSE WEENIE LICKERS HAVE OUR TECHNOLOGY? And where's my goddamn burrito?"
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Acronym Jim > MrSkippy • 6 days ago
Now I'm trying to figure out if being fired by Cruz would be good or bad for one's resume.
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Rebecca Gardner > MrSkippy • 6 days ago
That was awesome. Stole our subtitle technology. LMAOROF!!!!
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bkmn • 6 days ago
Soon to be replaced with someone even more evil. Repeating a story is not good enough for Rafael.
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Octavio > bkmn • 6 days ago
Karl Rove has his hand up hoping to be selected.
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Acronym Jim > Octavio • 6 days ago
Rove doesn't need to work for Cruz, since Cruz has already demonstrated his mastery of Rovian tactics.
He could be a tenured professor of Turblossomisms 2.0
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Hillie Worton > Acronym Jim • 6 days ago
The student becomes the teacher. Unfortunately for Jeb! in South Carolina, Lee Atwater went on to his reward some years ago. Jeb! sure could've used him.
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Homo Erectus > Hillie Worton • 6 days ago
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Red Rover, Red Rover > Octavio • 6 days ago
Rove hates Cruz. And vice versa. Dubya has gone on record saying he just doesn't like the guy, and this was before Cruz was running against Jeb! Rove is a whore, but I just don't think he's ready to got that far. Yet.
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pj > Red Rover, Red Rover • 6 days ago
everybody hates cruz.
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BobSF_94117 > pj • 6 days ago
His own daughter gives him the flick...
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bkmn > Octavio • 6 days ago
Rove's hand is out - hoping to fleece more money from billionaires by his PAC. He got $300M last time around.
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JaniceInToronto • 6 days ago
You guys have the very bestest elections EVER!
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coram nobis > JaniceInToronto • 6 days ago
Last time things got anywhere near this weird was 1968.
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Homo Erectus > coram nobis • 6 days ago
I don't think it's ever been this weird. The republican front-runner (with more committed delegates than all the other candidates combined) is a guy with far less political experience than Sarah Palin. In fact he hasn't held any office - not even town councilman. What the fuck??
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coram nobis > Homo Erectus • 6 days ago
Well, there was Wendell Willkie, ex-Democrat, business lawyer but not a public officeholder before he got the GOP nomination. Of course, that was a sudden event at a deadlocked convention, not a sustained ballyhoo.
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Craig Howell > coram nobis • 6 days ago
Wendell Willkie was a profoundly good and responsible man, an honest businessman who helped to rally support for FDR's foreign policies and internationalism when the GOP mainstream was locked into isolationism. In short, an anti-Trump.
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TrollopeReader > coram nobis • 6 days ago
well, the 1980 Ford / Reagan "co-presidency" thing was a tad weird, too ...but Palin in 2008 was just downright disgusting.
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BeccaM • 6 days ago
Rick Tyler's actual mistake? He got caught.
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biki > BeccaM • 6 days ago
His actual mistake was to work for Cruz. He was hired to be the person behind the dirty tricks so he could be fired to show that Cruz has no stomach for dirty politics.
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Jodie > biki • 6 days ago
Rather work for Cruz than that DIRTY BIRTHER trump
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BeccaM > Jodie • 6 days ago
You're a hoot. Goddess bless you for the laughs.
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TrollopeReader > Jodie • 6 days ago
Jodie, I think Glenn wants you on this thread:
http://www.joemygod.com/2016/0...
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
You forgot to put on your tin-foil hat for your profile pic.
At least you're giving us a whole lot of raucous laughs for today.
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olandp > MB • 6 days ago
She puts the tin foil under her wig.
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Wynter Marie Starr • 6 days ago
LOL, "Even if it's true…" The master of the non apology and one who plays dirty but doesn't like getting called on it. Cruz may be religious, but his morals are non existent. He's really a disgusting example of a human being.
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coram nobis > Wynter Marie Starr • 6 days ago
He should hire Carly Fiorina's media adviser next. You know, Demon Sheep? Of course, the special effects are better now, CGI and all that.
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Jodie > coram nobis • 6 days ago
wasting your time ,I didnt even watch the video.
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BeccaM > Jodie • 6 days ago
I watched it twice, just to make up for your lapse in judgment and lack of sense of humor.
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Homo Erectus > Jodie • 6 days ago
Honey, it ain't about you. Get over yourself.
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Homo Erectus > Wynter Marie Starr • 6 days ago
He's a christian - all he has to do is click his heels 3 times and say "Jesus forgive me".
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TrollopeReader > Homo Erectus • 6 days ago
The Duggar Motto.
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Jodie > Wynter Marie Starr • 6 days ago
donald trump post BS all the time and it dont go on the news.
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Wynter Marie Starr > Jodie • 6 days ago
You must be new here. Yes, Donald Trump is an egotistical liar who can barely manage to tell the truth about the color of the sky on any given day. He and Cruz and the rest of the sociopaths in the GOP party suffer from the same illness. There is a problem in the GOP party, or should I say many problems. Their moral compasses have broke, they lack the ability to give us any answers, they lack empathy, they wish to disenfranchise tax paying citizens, and they have aligned themselves with religious extremists who would like nothing better than to see the LGBT community, and their allies shut up or dead, along with feminists, atheists, people of color, those that are scientifically literate, and anyone that has an education beyond that of 12th grade.
You are using a false equivalency; just because Trump lies doesn't mean Cruz speaks the truth. The fact is they are both lying liars who lie. A lot. And there are any number of media going after Trump; The New York Daily News, this blog, and Huffington Post to name just a few. Cruz' religious extremism doesn't give him a pass.
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TuuxKabin > Wynter Marie Starr • 6 days ago
You nailed it real good.
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Wynter Marie Starr > TuuxKabin • 6 days ago
Thank you, sir.
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TuuxKabin > Wynter Marie Starr • 6 days ago
My pleasure, you always inspire.
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
Y'all sure caint uze "don't" tha way yer seposs'd tew.
Ever heard of the marvelous new contraction "doesn't" - as in DOES NOT ??? I know, I know...it's not in the dumbass dickshunary.
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Brian Burleson > Jodie • 6 days ago
Now you're just repeating yourself.
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Treant > Jodie • 6 days ago
Y'all might want to loosen that Wal-Mart bra. It's choking the blood flow to you'ns brain 'n' all.
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Randy503 • 6 days ago
Eh, so he fires the guy today. Then he "hires" a blonde bimbo to be his Director of Communications, but she takes all her orders from the "fired" guy,who is now just a volunteer. The press is fooled. After Super Tuesday, he's hired back again, and no one notices.
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coram nobis • 6 days ago
"Well, of course I fired him," said the Senator. "He got caught."
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shellback • 6 days ago
“The standards of conduct in this campaign have been made absolutely clear.”
Clear as a bell - you have NO standards.
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clay > shellback • 6 days ago
like delaying a "conservative" meeting late last week to basically bump both Carson and Rubio.
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Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
Ted Cruz is a disgusting piece of shit. He's also very dangerous.
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StillALiberal > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
I thought it was only me that keeps thinking of that film everytime Ted Cruz is mentioned.
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Rebecca Gardner > StillALiberal • 6 days ago
Nope. I think we all do. Cruz horrifies me. He is deranged and dangerous and he does it without negotiation or compromise because his invisible sky daddy is always correct and always agrees with his point of view.
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Paula > StillALiberal • 6 days ago
No, it was my first thought, too.
He is a scary dude !
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MikeBx2 • 6 days ago
Newsflash to Cruz: Pretending to have high standards will not help you win the GOP nomination. To be the front runner, you have to consistently flaunt your low standards. Duh!
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Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
One of my responses to a tweet this piece of shit made today.
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Brian Burleson > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
TY for being on the twitter machine so I don't have to. I owe you at least one cocktail.
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TuuxKabin > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
You are so on target Rebeca, and all the time with a sense of adventure. I bet you're good at archery, hitting the bullseye then splitting the arrow you just shot into the bullseye.
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Rebecca Gardner > TuuxKabin • 6 days ago
I've never tried archery but just before my motorcycle accident I went to the range. This was my target after 250 rounds of .30 Carbine from my Ruger Blackhawk and 3 slugs from my Remington 870. I'm very upset about those 3 outside the black.
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coram nobis > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
A tight shot group nonetheless. Very good.
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TuuxKabin > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
Well, you know how they say 'practice makes . . . ' wha' evah. ;-]
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Will Parkinson • 6 days ago
He was fired for breaking the golden rule: Don't admit I told you to do it.
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coram nobis • 6 days ago
Of course, blame your adviser. Old story.
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“Well, you promised me anything up to half your kingdom if I danced for you, Daddy. All I’m asking for is one person’s head, gee whiz.”
“Will nobody rid me of this turbulent priest?”
“Of course Anne of Cleves would be a pretty wife, your majesty. Just like this portrait by Holbein I had done.”
“I’ll have us in Richmond in a week, President Lincoln.”
“... and we’ll sell the arms to Iran and give the profits to the Contras, Mr. President. Who’s to know?”
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Craig Howell > coram nobis • 6 days ago
Bonus points for Anne of Cleves shout-out!
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1Truth1 • 6 days ago
"The standards of conduct in this campaign have been made absolutely clear.”
Unfortunately, the clear 'standards' set by Cruz and Trump are ridiculously low.
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TrollopeReader > 1Truth1 • 6 days ago
so clear they are opaque ......
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BlindBill • 6 days ago
2 words: sacrificial lamb
Not our first view of how having a pastor-in-chief in the white house will pan out - but this shows that Rafael Edwardo Cruz will never own responsibility for anything that goes sideways or fails during his watch .... uninspired management - and a total lack of leadership skills
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BearEyes • 6 days ago
a convenient scapegoat apparently.
I expect more lies and dirty tricks anyway - those are cruz "values"
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Lazycrockett • 6 days ago
I guess Tyler was at MSNBC when he heard the news and ran out of the studio. You'd think Cruz would have at least held a meeting with him.
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bkmn > Lazycrockett • 6 days ago
This is what I would expect from a Cruz administration. Lots of lying and knives in backs.
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TrollopeReader > Lazycrockett • 6 days ago
we know Cruz doesn't even have a heart .... it's the Radio Shack way of "downsizing" ....send out 40,000 "personal" emails ... (or maybe the Carly way?)
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clay > Lazycrockett • 6 days ago
Have you a link (I hope).
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Lazycrockett > clay • 6 days ago
it was on twitter and MSNBC was talking bout it.
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clay > Lazycrockett • 6 days ago
Yeah, I was hoping for actual video. I'll just have to imagine it using Cindy Williams as Rachel Maddow and Michael McKean as Rick TWyler.
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Michael Alden • 6 days ago
Wouldn't be surprised if this was entirely concocted to make Ted look good after firing his communications director. He is a slimeball after all. Remember, when Christians lie to get to where they need to be it ain't a sin because it's for "God's" plan.
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Paula • 6 days ago
I can just imagine Cruz in that photo hissing
Ein reich, Ein kirche, Ein jeebus!
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Rebecca Gardner > Paula • 6 days ago
This candidate brought to you by the good people at Fox News.
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clay > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
Gingrinch got them to admit that they basically created Turmp's candidacy with free, favorable airtime. Not that the FEC will do anything about that.
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Rebecca Gardner > clay • 6 days ago
Yup. Scroll down and you'll see my earlier tweet about that.
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clay > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
Thanks, I came across it looking for details about TWyler leaving MSNBC's studios.
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TrollopeReader > clay • 6 days ago
that's what TWTyler was looking for too ....
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Paula > Rebecca Gardner • 6 days ago
This^^^^^^^
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Jodie > Paula • 6 days ago
What??? This was an Employ and its not like donald trump hasnt tweeted insults and lies before.
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TrollopeReader > Jodie • 6 days ago
employ (as you use it) is like tweet ... two 'ee's .... and you're missing a few " ' " in your sentences.
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Homo Erectus > TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
hom skoolin strikes again.
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Jodie > TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
Okay is that all you have to say about my comment? My grammar?
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
You call what you write "grammar" ?????????
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TrollopeReader > Jodie • 6 days ago
It's obviously what makes you, you.
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paganguy • 6 days ago
The wheels on the bus go round and splat and round.
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5moreminutes*imtired • 6 days ago
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freshacconci • 6 days ago
Fired for what he was asked to do.
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Jodie > freshacconci • 6 days ago
SPIN SPIN SPIN girl.
He was fired for doing that and NO one asked him to.
Keep spinning. SMH
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BeccaM > Jodie • 6 days ago
Boy have you wandered into the wrong website...
Redstate and/or Stormfront are way over -----------> There.
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TrollopeReader > BeccaM • 6 days ago
Some poor person is going to be yelled at for giving her the wrong meds after her nap time ...
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
I think you shoud go back to Barbwire . com. Mattie needs a few new nutty ignorant whackadoodle douchenozzles to liven up his website.
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PLAINTOM • 6 days ago
A fish rots from the head down.
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Necessitas • 6 days ago
I've seen circus sideshows with far more decorum than the Cruz campaign.
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coram nobis > Necessitas • 6 days ago
Either way, you're left with a lot of elephant dung.
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Phillip in L.A. > coram nobis • 6 days ago
zing!
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 6 days ago
GOP lesson of the day:
• Lying about a fellow religious fundamentalist is a big NO-NO.
• Lying about anything else is A-OK.
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coram nobis > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 6 days ago
Two Corinthians don't make a right.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > coram nobis • 6 days ago
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thatotherjean • 6 days ago
Of course, Cruz knew nothing. Nothing! Somebody had to be the scapegoat, and Rick Tyler is as good as anybody else.
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Brian Burleson > thatotherjean • 6 days ago
Rick is a perfect target as he has long been a slime ball.
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thatotherjean > Brian Burleson • 6 days ago
From the Cruz campaign, I wouldn't have expected anything else.
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GuestStop • 6 days ago
"Snowball is a traitor! Long live Napoleon!"
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Joseph Miceli • 6 days ago
How awesome! Cruz fired someone for what he does every day. At least he's consistent with one thing: stabbing people in the back. Just ask all the Tea Party morons (morans?) in the House of Representatives what THEY think about him. :)
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Gay Blade • 6 days ago
Whaddaya expect from RepubliCONS!
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Alan43 • 6 days ago
Dang, maybe Trump has a point about Cruz being a liar...
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clay > Alan43 • 6 days ago
mutual recognition.
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peterparker • 6 days ago
"We are not a campaign that is going to question the faith of another candidate."
This is a dog whistle for Trump, practically begging him to select him as his VP running mate.
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clay > peterparker • 6 days ago
His team's already questioned Turmp's faith, without bothering to fire anyone for it.
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MrSkippy > peterparker • 6 days ago
Do you think they're really dumb enough to think that'd work? Serious question, I can't tell if they are or not.
I mean with all the nasty vile shit they've fired at each other you'd have to imagine they know how their dem opponent would handle that.
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chicago dyke • 6 days ago
/pops dried apricot, fondles toenail with scraper
well, i've got some dvds to watch, but i'll call you back later when i care.
i do love some of Hillary's clothes lately, and i do mean that. it will be fun to have a President who wears colors more than tie choice, for a change. and the shoes. /sighs, imagines Presidential shoe budget with jealousy
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Brian Burleson > chicago dyke • 6 days ago
Talking like that others might assume that you are a gay man. Shoe budgets and all.
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Paige Turner • 6 days ago
Ted, you had better win Texas otherwise its all over.
We all know the time is coming. Tick tock.
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TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
Ted's made his new communications hire! Wow, that was quick! Hi, Jodie! Enjoy your new job! Now, don't lie. Please, don't lie.
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TuuxKabin > TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
I think she may be on this thread, a Jodie appears further down the line . . . or it's a coincidence.
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TrollopeReader > TuuxKabin • 6 days ago
um, yeah, that's who I'm referring to ....
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BobSF_94117 • 6 days ago
Not to go all Originalist, but I'm sure the Founders would have found Tweeting to be satanic, so I say we should ban it [edit] except for emergency warnings [/edit].
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TrollopeReader > BobSF_94117 • 6 days ago
isn't that why they had flocks of passenger pigeons to deliver things? that's where the "tweet" came from, right?? :-)
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Ore Carmi > TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
Ahhhh! One of my little pet peeves. Sorry: I'm going to have to let my natural history educator personality come out here--I think you probably mean carrier pigeons. Passenger Pigeons are an extinct species of bird that was NOT used to deliver messages. Carrier pigeons, on the other hand, were/are a breed of Rock Pigeons (same species as city pigeons), that were selected for strong homing abilities.
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TrollopeReader > Ore Carmi • 6 days ago
Ah, yes. Brain fart .... *sigh* ! Though I gather they were quite fast flyers ... and traveled in large numbers !
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Ore Carmi > TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
Yes, they did move around in humongous flocks! They're trying to use cloning to resurrect the species, but I really wonder how much success they'll have, since they apparently needed huge concentrations to go into breeding mode.
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Craig Howell > Ore Carmi • 6 days ago
Sounds like they were real party animals! We can relate!
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BobSF_94117 > TrollopeReader • 6 days ago
I don't know about the etymology, but the declension is Tweet, Twit, Twat as far as I'm concerned.
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Hank • 6 days ago
Keep religion OUT of POLITICS!!! The USA is a SECULAR STATE!!!
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safari2bongaloo • 6 days ago
Trump would have promoted the man.
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bkmn > safari2bongaloo • 6 days ago
He would have become one of the Donald's "the best people".
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TrollopeReader > bkmn • 6 days ago
" I love him! I love his tweets! He's a beautiful man with a Yuuuuge future in my campaign! "
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Homo Erectus > bkmn • 6 days ago
I think he's still available....
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Cuberly • 6 days ago
The Cruz campaign standards? Since when do dominionist cultists have standards. They barely register as human.
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EdA • 6 days ago
"I'm shocked, SHOCKED.'
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Josh447 • 6 days ago
I can hear the Tyler firing now:
'You can lie about anything except Rubio's membership in our hate club. New blow me'.
Ted Cruz
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Guy Johnson • 5 days ago
According to Cruz,
“We are not a campaign that is going to question the faith of another candidate. Even if it was true, our campaign should not have sent it. That’s why I’ve asked for Rick Tyler’s resignation. The standards of conduct in this campaign have been made absolutely clear.”
However, on February 16, 2016, in South Carolina, he said this:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hol...
So, the above quote should read:
"We are not a campaign that is going to question the faith of another Republican Evangelical candidate. Even if it is true, our campaign should not have sent it. Unless it's the Black Dude in the White House with the African name. Then we not only get to question his faith, we get to say it's nonexistent."
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Jude Newton • 6 days ago
"even if it were true"
Had to get that dig in there, I see.
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grada3784 > Jude Newton • 6 days ago
But is the use of the subjunctive mood for a condition contrary to fact or the expression of a wish?
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CCleverly • 6 days ago
“The standards of conduct in this campaign have been made absolutely clear.” with the stamp of approval from the lying liar, Teddy Cruz
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DesertSun59 • 6 days ago
Cruz said. “The standards of conduct in this campaign have been made absolutely clear.”
Um, no. That's why his social media director lied.
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MrSkippy > DesertSun59 • 6 days ago
No it was totally clear: You can lie all you want but if you get too caught you'll get fired.
That or this guy wanted to get out anyway so he decided to fire the torpedoes and see if he could sink his own ship.
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Jodie • 6 days ago
Very BIASED Article. "Continuously lied" ? No this guy retweeted a tweet and yes he should be fired if he was warned about it before. Was he warned? I still support Ted Cruz and I would hope he warned the guy before firing him.
Its so terrible that A Good man like Ted Cruz has all these others coming at him to attack him such as trump and Rubio. Rubio and Ted should not attack each other and go after sorry a$$ trump, trump is always attacking someone ..He is now saying Rubio isn't a natural born citizen! So now trump is LYING on BOTH Ted and Rubio.
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
Support Ted Cruz?? ARE YOU NUCKING FUTZ GURL ????????
Ted Cruz is a lying two-faced narcissist sanctimonious Southern Baptist zealot opportunist scum-sucking FUCKWEASEL- who would lock us and you in electrified pens or push us off of 20 story buildings if he could get away with it.
You really need to get educated on what he thinks about women, as well.
The man is a disgusting PIG !!!
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Homo Erectus > MB • 6 days ago
She's not from around here.
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TrollopeReader > Homo Erectus • 6 days ago
...and i don't think they want her over there, either.
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BeccaM > Jodie • 6 days ago
Ted Cruz is an oily, sleazy wingnut bigot. He has all the charm of spoiled oysters. You should be ashamed to support such a horribly unethical man.
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RJ Bone > Jodie • 6 days ago
Hello Jodie :)
Cruz is a Dominionist. If you don't mind being ruled over by a severely right-wing religious person who, for one thing, believes conspiracy theories that used to only be played in the dead of night on AM radio, I guess Cruz is very much your man. The rest of us would rather live our lives without christians taking our freedoms and threatening to have us executed in the name of their god.
And if you think it cannot happen, look back through history at the times when they ruled almost exclusively and made law. It will happen if we let someone who firmly believes in turning the United States into the christian version of a caliphate into office with a party that also believes it. And yes, they sure as hell do.
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Homo Erectus > RJ Bone • 6 days ago
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BeccaM > RJ Bone • 6 days ago
'Mind'? Being ruled over by a radical right Christian Dominionist is her DREAM.
In her vision of New Gilead, she's already getting fitted for a Martha uniform.
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TJay229 > Jodie • 6 days ago
Wait a min...
Did she refer to Ted Cruz as a 'Good Man'..???
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TrollopeReader > TJay229 • 6 days ago
i think she meant to type "Godly" .....
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Jodie > TJay229 • 6 days ago
Yes I did and proud of it. at least hes not like trump.
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TuuxKabin > Jodie • 6 days ago
Nothing's like Trump.
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coram nobis > TuuxKabin • 6 days ago
Silvio Berlusconi, maybe. But unprecedented in US politics.
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Craig Howell > coram nobis • 6 days ago
Except maybe for Andrew Jackson. Google "Trail Of Tears."
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MB > Jodie • 6 days ago
Jodie, YOU are one sick uneducated puppy. Or you are just here to troll JMG.
Either way you need a FRIGGIN BRAIN TRANSPLANT !!!!!
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TJay229 > Jodie • 6 days ago
Both are insane and don't have the ability to become elected. So... 'Jodie' you keep supporting him all you can, I expect to see your tears in the 'WhitepeoplemourningTedCruzloss..."
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grada3784 > Jodie • 6 days ago
Somebody better read their Bible. Jesus didn't accept the word good for himself. Is distrusTED better than Jesus?
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TrollopeReader > Jodie • 6 days ago
Always a pleasure to welcome new people to the conversation! I'm sure you'll learn quite a lot on this forum, and pass it on to your friends!
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Jean-Marc in Canada > Jodie • 6 days ago
Uh, Jodie, I think you're lost. This here blog is located on the Yellow Brick road, whereas you should be on the Red Brick road.
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biki > Jodie • 6 days ago
You won't find any love for Cruz on this site. We are various shades of the DNC and a few socialists, but no GOP fans.
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TrollopeReader > biki • 6 days ago
and some who believe in common sense and pragmatism, too !!
:-)
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freshacconci > Jodie • 6 days ago
Grandma?
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Jodie > freshacconci • 6 days ago
Excuse me??? What did i do to you?
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grada3784 > Jodie • 6 days ago
Probably just reminded him of his grandmother?
Republicans should learn that not everything is an attack.
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coram nobis > Jodie • 6 days ago
I believe this ad was also a Cruz product.
http://www.joemygod.com/2016/0...
Doesn't lie, exactly, but makes Rubio out to be Obama's Siamese twin.
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Skeptical_Inquirer • 6 days ago
I think Hillary should just make a commercial with Ted's own daughter waving him away.
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Jodie • 6 days ago
It was a retweet so Maybe ALL ,EVERY candidate should never tweet insults or anything negative about anyone from now on. that should be rules for EVERYBODY.
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BeccaM > Jodie • 6 days ago
Or maybe you should realize you've wandered into a liberal-progressive LGBT-rights advocacy blog and just go the fuck away.
By the way, I read somewhere that Ted Cruz blows goats in his spare time. A real compulsion for him, according to the reports. No matter how plaintive the bleating, he just won't stop. (Reading something on the internet makes it true, y'know.)
Failing that, if he won't leave those poor goats alone, it sure would be nice if Ted Cruz didn't run a campaign so sleazy it would make Dick Nixon blush.
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Tor > BeccaM • 6 days ago
He has never denied it, has he?
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BeccaM > Tor • 6 days ago
As far as I know, he has not. And the goats keep screaming.
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Daily News Blasts Trump For Telling Bizarre Fake Story About Killing Muslims With Pig Blood Soaked Bullets
February 20, 2016 2016 Election, Teabagistan
Trump’s audience, unsurprisingly, LOVED the story. From the New York Daily News:
Donald Trump’s tough talk on terrorism took a bizarre and bloodthirsty turn Friday as he gleefully retold a stomach-turning tall tale about Muslim extremists being killed with bullets that had been dipped in pig’s blood.
His supporters rabidly cheered him on as the GOP presidential front-runner turned myth into his own reality, telling them at a rally in North Charleston, S.C., about U.S. Gen. John Pershing supposedly executing dozens of Muslims held prisoner in the Philippines.
“He took 50 bullets and he dipped them in pig’s blood,” Trump said. “And he had his men load his rifles and he lined up the 50 people, and they shot 49 of those people. And the 50th person, he said, ‘You go back to your people and you tell them what happened.’ And for 25 years there wasn’t a problem.”
The yarn that Trump rehashed on the eve of the South Carolina primary stems from a hoax spread via email, according to rumor tracker Snopes.com.
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Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
I give up! I mean, nothing, nothing this man says is too over the top or untrue enough for his cult followers; and let's not kid ourselves, this is now a cult of personality and nothing more.......all the more reason to be fear it.
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JT > Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
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another_steve > Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
Exactly.
The thought -- the possibility -- that this man could become President of the United States is... well, unthinkable. Nevertheless, it's a possibility.
My opinion is that if between now and November there's a major terrorist act on U.S. soil or a series of Paris-like attacks, or if the American economy crashes, it's quite possible that under those circumstances Trump could win the election.
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Jean-Marc in Canada > another_steve • 8 days ago
Sadly, I wouldn't put it past Trump or some of his supporters to pull off such an attack as a way to foment the fear needed to get him elected. Hey, it wouldn't be the first time something like that wasn't done.
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Strepsi > Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
It's also quite possible the GOP is trying to delay hostage releases to sink the Dems in Nov. as they did to Carter:
http://www.snopes.com/gop-dela...
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another_steve > Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
Oh hon, I guarantee you that Republican strategists are praying day and night for catastrophe in the U.S. between now and November.
There's already tremendous anxiety out there among moderate Republicans and Independents concerning terrorism and the economy. Polls show that.
Be able to successfully promulgate a "the Democrats didn't keep you safe" meme, and the Republicans win the election.
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cleos_mom > another_steve • 8 days ago
The ground has already been prepared: for years now the drumbeat in news, entertainment, and the inbred offspring of both has been the same "be afraid."
Be afraid of everything from a major world religion to the food you eat. And while you're at it, make sure your children grow up accustomed to being watched all the time.
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another_steve > cleos_mom • 8 days ago
For real.
I recently saw something somewhere re the percentage of Americans who adhere to the various conspiracy theories out there. Everything from "chemtrails" to alien spacecraft being stored in government warehouses to government surveillance of your every phone call.
An amazing number of Americans believe this crap.
Chilling.
Absolutely chilling.
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Marides48 > another_steve • 8 days ago
You mean all those things aren't true?
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WebSlinger > Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
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Robincho > Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
The motto on my Scottish family crest says "SANS PEUR" -- I'm thinking of switching clans...
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MaryOGrady > Robincho • 8 days ago
Don't switch clans! Make sure everyone you know is registered to vote including yourself, and help get out the vote.
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Princess Lardass > Jean-Marc in Canada • 8 days ago
He's a man of superlatives.
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Max_1 • 8 days ago
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coram nobis > Max_1 • 8 days ago
If you marketed inflatable punching clowns with those faces on it, it would make huuuuge profits.
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Jerry > coram nobis • 7 days ago
The Trump pinatas are yuuuuge sellers in Mexico...
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Galvestonian • 8 days ago
He got this story from the same place he got the 'thousands of muslins on rooftops in Jersey dancing on the roofs in joy' when 9/11 happened.
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Strepsi > Galvestonian • 8 days ago
This story is even more grotesque as it suggests Muslims are inhumans, like werewolves who need a magic bullet, or --- at best --- that it is laudable to torture, humiliate, and execute them! Despicable on every possible level.
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MaryOGrady > Strepsi • 8 days ago
What was described was a war crime: summary execution of prisoners.
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Acronym Jim > Galvestonian • 8 days ago
That was just someone's laundry flapping in the wind.
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MaryOGrady > Acronym Jim • 8 days ago
I see what you did there, you brilliant man.
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Chayste in LA > Galvestonian • 8 days ago
Yes ... I *thought* it smelled like something ripped straight outta his ass.
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tristram > Galvestonian • 8 days ago
With the help of his proctologist and lotsa lube.
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S1AMER • 8 days ago
The only thing lower in American politics than Donald Trump is the larger number of people who think he belongs in the White House. They scare me.
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Traxley Launderette > S1AMER • 8 days ago
I see them all over Facebook repeating Trump's incredible lies, embellishing them even further sometimes. I've said it before: These are guys my age, some younger, but they're almost always blue-collar men who have lost so much under republican policies. They're looking for simple answers for complex problems. They want confrontation, not diplomacy. They want to eliminate things and people they fear because they won't try to understand them. They are furious that the, world hasn't worked out the way they wanted it to. They are intensely fearful. They want to bend the world to their will and will destroy anything or anyone standing in their way, in much the same way some Germans did 80 years ago.
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Octoberfurst > Traxley Launderette • 8 days ago
You nailed it! Trump supporters---virtually all blue collar middle-aged Whites---are the most batshit crazy people I have ever seen. The more hateful Trump is the more they love him. They cheer him when he describes Hispanic immigrants as "rapists". They applaud when he advocates torture. They clap wildly when he talks of nuking our "enemies". These people scare the hell out of me. I truly think we have become Germany circa 1933.
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Marides48 > Traxley Launderette • 8 days ago
We've seen this movie before & I hope there will not be a sequel.
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bambinoitaliano > S1AMER • 8 days ago
These are the zombies the entertainment world has continue to warn us about.
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Bad Tom > bambinoitaliano • 8 days ago
Except, they don't care for brains. Not at all.
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cleos_mom > bambinoitaliano • 8 days ago
The entertainment world has been as active in creating the monster as anyone else.
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Porkie • 8 days ago
It's good to scratch the surface and hear the real story behind the republican base's "respect" for religion.
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Strepsi > Porkie • 8 days ago
the best part of the front page is the phrase "S.C.yokels"
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KCMC > Strepsi • 8 days ago
^ ^ THIS!!!
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safari2bongaloo • 8 days ago
His rhetoric is getting more violent. I imagine his followers will lose their minds if he loses or doesn't live up to their expectations. Worse, he could win and give them actual power. These possibilities worry me.
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zhera > safari2bongaloo • 8 days ago
I'd hate to be muslim in the US this year. I'd be terrified.
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Todd20036 > safari2bongaloo • 8 days ago
If he wins the majority of delegates, but not enough to win the nomination, well, let's just say the convention will be interesting
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Paula > safari2bongaloo • 8 days ago
This guy would probably be up for a Cabinet position.
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fuzzybits > Paula • 8 days ago
I just imagine him taking the energy to make that fist and then collapsing.
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Traxley Launderette > Paula • 8 days ago
Yep. He's their guy.
Let me share this meme a local Trump supporter uses as a profile picture:
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Ore Carmi > Traxley Launderette • 8 days ago
Wow. Sickening!
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YakHerder > Paula • 7 days ago
Secretary of Transportation, naturally.
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Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
OT but this is fucking bat shittery at it's finest. WTF? Ted Cruz is completely insane.
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Michael Rush > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
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Yixing's Fluffer > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
The rest of the world would revoke our sovereignty and make us sit in time out until we learned our lesson. Texans would have to write an essay on the topic of not letting escaped mental patients/vampires run for office.
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jmax > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
And this same asshole is hoping to nominate a Supreme Court justice. No fucking way.
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Traxley Launderette > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
:(
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William > Traxley Launderette • 8 days ago
I was so happy when Seal Team Six took out that nasty old fuck.
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Traxley Launderette > William • 8 days ago
I see what you did there.
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William > Traxley Launderette • 8 days ago
Sorry, when I don't have my glasses on, all those religious fundamentalists look alike.
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Michael Rush > William • 8 days ago
Now make a fake name and go say that over on Breitbart when they mention him .
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William > Michael Rush • 8 days ago
No can do, my hazmat suit is at the cleaners.
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fuzzybits > Traxley Launderette • 8 days ago
That girl's got roaches in her hair!
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Traxley Launderette > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
:)
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Princess Lardass > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
I just heard and audio excerpt of Trump's telling his supporters that America is not respected abroad. For once I agree with him.
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Versailles > Princess Lardass • 7 days ago
Electing Trump won't help with that either.
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Sam_Handwich > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
Here comes Secretary of Education Boo Boo!
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Mark > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
I thought that was Sarah.
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Anastasia Beaverhousen > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
I thought she was HHS. Dan Quayle would be Education.
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teeveedub > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
Jeezus Fuckin' Christ! These people are absolutely insane. How mentally ill does one have to be to think that some insular bigot from South Peckerwood, LA would know anything about international diplomacy.
If someone suggested this in a Huffington Post comment, you'd assume he was just trolling. But for a presidential candidate to state this on the campaign trail, one can only assume severe mental illness.
Just when you thought the shit show couldn't get any shittier ...
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coram nobis > Rebecca Gardner • 8 days ago
Not the first time. Remember UN Ambassador John Bolton?
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Paula • 8 days ago
I knew about the pig's blood story. Some of the stories claim that Pershing ordered them to buried wrapped in pig's skin. None of it was true. Trumpy fell for an old urban legend. Loser!!
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Rolf > Paula • 8 days ago
I think this has its roots in a story made to enrage Indians about English troops coating their bullets in pork lard before firing on Indian protestors during a Raj uprising.
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Erp > Rolf • 8 days ago
Wrong way round. The troops were Indian (both Muslim and Hindu) in the employ of the British and the story was that the cartridges were greased with pig/cattle fat. Since the cartridges had to be bitten to open them before inserting into the guns, the troops would be getting the fat in their mouths. It was seen as deliberately insulting to the troops. It was denied by the British but the denial wasn't believed.
I guess the closest equivalent would be US troops thinking they were being ordered to have something like dog fat in their mouths.
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Rolf > Erp • 8 days ago
Thanks for that. I should have looked it up rather than depend on memory.
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Prion • 8 days ago
,..
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bkmn • 8 days ago
I'm not the biggest fan of NYDN but I am glad they are exposing the Donald's right wing musings to a wider audience. It is normal for the GOP to kiss up to their base during the primary and then swing back to moderate during the general but with this help from NYDN more people get to hear about the extreme.
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Yixing's Fluffer • 8 days ago
A reminder of the actual horrors of the Philippine-American War:
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thatotherjean • 8 days ago
It's still my theory that Trump got into this mess for the publicity and the LOLs, and now can't get out, no matter what outrageous garbage he spouts, because idiots continue to support him. Every Democrat in the country, GET OUT AND VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
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charemor > thatotherjean • 7 days ago
If by any wild chance he was to get the nomination and get elected, I can not imagine him staying the course for four years.
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Cherry • 8 days ago
You can point out that this is a hoax and tell them to look it up on Snopes.com but all they will say is that Snopes.com is a liberal websites. These morons will believe ANYTHING
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Traxley Launderette > Cherry • 8 days ago
Yes, they will. I've heard the lies about Snopes.com a lot lately.
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Prion • 8 days ago
..,
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Rolf > Prion • 8 days ago
Those flames should be coming out of his ass. Donald "Blue Angel' tRump.
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Prion • 8 days ago
.,,
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charemor > Prion • 7 days ago
Prion, you really come up with the best!
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zhera • 8 days ago
That's his idea of peace-keeping? This is something a candidate says to convince people to vote for him?
There really is NO limit to what he can say or do, is it?!? Affluenza politics.
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Robincho > zhera • 8 days ago
And the South Carolina "yokels" went full batshit upon hearing this. My heart bleeds for zhykitty, among others...
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Yixing's Fluffer • 8 days ago
Meanwhile, the Cruz camp is hard at work:
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coram nobis > Yixing's Fluffer • 8 days ago
- "What is Cruz saying?"
- "He said the President is near!"
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JW Swift > coram nobis • 8 days ago
Ooh, points for the "Blazing Saddles" reference!
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Rolf > Yixing's Fluffer • 8 days ago
Notice the lively intelligence in Pres. Obama's eye, and the cold, dead stare in Dumbo's?
Seriously, what's up with those ears? It's like a birth defect.
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safari2bongaloo • 8 days ago
Soon.
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Jean-Marc in Canada > safari2bongaloo • 8 days ago
Indeed.
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MB • 8 days ago
Coming from the mouth of Hair Pig himself, I am not shocked. Nope, Not at all.
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coram nobis > MB • 8 days ago
I am not shocked, shocked. Feeling an urge to throw a bottle of Vichy water, however.
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Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
They do know that pork is not poisonous to Muslims, right?
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Robincho > Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
Ya gotta wonder why pigs were ever invented in the first place. And, proving problematic, why they weren't uninvented...
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charemor > Robincho • 7 days ago
Bacon.
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Chucktech > Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
Their false, dead god has a big problem with pork.
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Rolf > Chucktech • 8 days ago
The big problem with pigs (and dogs) that most ancient religions have is due to the fact that in societies that lack modern plumbing, both species will search out and enthusiastically eat human excrement.
This is why dogs and pigs were considered filthy, unclean, carriers of disease and definitely unfit for human consumption, and the reason for all the religious injunctions against them.
But with modern plumbing, agricultural science and dog food (unless you go for a rather 'long' walk in the woods with your dog, ahem), this is now merely another ancient superstition that can be abandoned along with the earth being flat.
The ban on shellfish? Do you know how fast they go off, especially in a middle eastern climate?
The mixed fibres one I'm still puzzling over.
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madknits > Rolf • 8 days ago
The mixing fibres refers specifically to linen and wool (which could mean fibre from either sheep or goats). The Levitical code is very caught up in keeping categories separate, and mixing animal fibre and plant fibre would mean mixed categories. The whole prohibition between mixed fibres is between these two alone. Other mixed fibres today are OK, just not linen and wool, which is why I role my eyes every time mixed fibre stuff gets mentioned here. Cotton/poly blends are kosher, but (to me) unspeakable.
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Rolf > madknits • 8 days ago
Thanks for that! So it's basically just Jehovah being anal lol.
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Blake Jordan > Rolf • 8 days ago
Using science (and logic), you must be a Satan worshipper...
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Rolf > Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
Not being a believer in the Jehovah myth, I don't believe in Stan either. But if I did, Lucifer would be my object of worship.
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Sportin' Life > Rolf • 8 days ago
Bringer of light, bringer of knowledge. The christians' mortal enemy, obviously.
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swirl > Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
They think Muslims are to pork like vampires are to garlic.
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BearEyes > Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
and they ignore that part of Leviticus.
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BeccaM • 8 days ago
That's also a war crime, by the way, executing prisoners like that. Even if it never happened, Trump is telling his story like it did -- and saying he'd gladly do the same.
The Republicans have at least one and quite probably several front-runner candidates who are advocating acts of lawless barbarism, torture and war crimes -- and a significant number of GOP-registered Americans are totally fine with that.
Just makes me sick to even think about it.
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Porkie • 8 days ago
Has anyone introduced him to David Cameron yet - They will get on famously
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Princess Lardass > Porkie • 8 days ago
Hilarious! Shameful that I can only up-vote this once!
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Steven Rowe • 8 days ago
As I have said before and the above just proves that I am right, Mr Trump is the candidate for the 'hard of thinking'.
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Grumpy old Man • 8 days ago
Just on a practical note, I am trying to imagine rounds caked in blood, inserted into the breach, then fired ... this has misfire written all over it.
An interesting note: the USMC had the .45 1911a1 designed specifically for the combat in the Philippines. The Filippinos would bind their bodies tightly in linen and/or silk with specific attention paid to their testicles - the bindings were so painful it blocked out every thing else and the .38 specials issued at the time would pass right through them. There was no stopping power with the .38 so they came up with the .45 which would knock them down with hydro-static shock.
Side note: the a1 designation is because the first model did not have that curved grip so when fired multiple times fast the hand would ride up and the slide would rip the webbing between the thumb and forefinger (ouch)
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Chucktech • 8 days ago
Way-el, Low-erd, pigs blood! Bet their gawd done sent 'em awl tuh hay-el fer bein' shot with pigs blood...
Jesus...
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Jim • 8 days ago
FYI: Trump's garbled account refers to America's war of conquest against the Philippine republic 1899-1902. Filipinos thought that they had won independence when America defeated Spain in 1898. Imperialist America had other plans, namely to replace a Spanish colony with an American colony. The war took hundreds of thousands of civilian lives. American atrocities against Filipino civilians and freedom fighters are well-documented. It was partly his experience in this war that led General Smedley Butler to write his famous tract, "War is a Racket." Strangely this war has disappeared from American history. It's become an unwar just as its victims have become unpersons. Almost nobody these days is even aware of it.
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William > Jim • 8 days ago
This was the flip side of Cuba. It too received its independence from after the Spanish-American war. The US treated like a colony and made Havana the vacation hotspot for the rich and famous. Mob run booze and gambling were brought in during Prohibition. Meanwhile, the average Cuban peasants lived in poverty and squalor. It took the Cuban Revolution to get the US out.
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unklespunky • 8 days ago
If pigs blood is needed, perhaps Donnie could just slit his wrists.
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Jude Newton > unklespunky • 8 days ago
Times like these I wish this site had stars - that's a 5-star comment there.
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tominsf • 8 days ago
This isn't a very original idea. During the Sepoy Rebellion in India (1857) - the revolt of native Indian troops against their British officers - a rumor was spread that the cartridges used in the British guns of the period were lubricated with pigs fat. As the drill required the ends of the cartridges to be bitten off before being inserted, this offended both Muslims and Hindus.
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Stephen Elliot Phillips • 8 days ago
A silver bullet kills a werewolf. A bullet with a cross embossed on it shot into the heart supposedly will terminate a vampire.....these helpful hints i knew.
Who wouldve thought that dipping a bullet in pigs blood is the way to kill muslims. Wow.
Thanks donald!
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Paula > Stephen Elliot Phillips • 8 days ago
What if the vampire was Jewish?
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William > Paula • 8 days ago
What to do with a Buddhist vampire?
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Rolf > William • 8 days ago
Dissolve him into emptiness.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > William • 8 days ago
Would you shove the Dharma Wheel down his throat or up his ass?
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Stephen Elliot Phillips > Paula • 8 days ago
funny you should mention that. I saw a movie once, cant remember what the name was. I believe a horror/comedy where they tried to kill the vampire with conventional xtian methods but the vampire was found to be jewish
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aschops • 8 days ago
Mark Twain wrote about the episode, and he describes it as what it was - as a massacre of Muslim families.
http://www.marktwainproject.or...
Not that I think that essay would resonate with many people, even on the left. Just say "collateral damage" or "human shields" and Americans feel good about ANYTHING their thugs in uniforms have done.
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Princess Lardass • 8 days ago
Dammit, Daily News! Don't disparage pigs like that!
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Ryan Hunter • 8 days ago
What a totally vile human being. And to think that he could become president of the US is unbelievable.
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sword • 8 days ago
Trump seems to believe anything that he reads or is told. Hope a newspaper headlines "Trump quits in a Huff"...Donald will immediately fly back to his golden tower never to be seen again!
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Michael Hampton • 8 days ago
How disgusting that the GOP continues to coddle this megalomaniac and his demon army of followers.
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Terance Greene • 8 days ago
The Question is: If Trump Wins, is he the match and is America Rome?
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Ish • 8 days ago
Outrageous! Almost as outrageous as, you know, actually arranging to kill, or voting for the killing of, Muslims with drones, bombs and special forces as Obama, Clinton and Sanders have actually done.
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Veylon • 8 days ago
I remember this bullets-in-blood all the way back from right after 9/11.
It should be noted that what prompted the Moro uprising - in which the story takes place - was an order banning firearms in the area General Pershing was responsible for.
Interestingly, when faced with "fantacism", Pershing chose what passed for the time as mercy. He was relatively lenient compared to other commanders and preferred diplomacy over confrontation, such as donating land for the building of Mosques.
Which is to say that military leaders facing open insurrection a century ago where in favor of being more humane than Donald Trump is today.
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leathersmith • 7 days ago
"I don't lie, in fact I get in trouble for telling the truth"
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teeveedub • 8 days ago
I heard tRump saying recently that he's certain that he's going to win in delegate-rich New York. But when one of his hometown newspapers continues to run headlines like this, that doesn't sound too likely. Not only that, but New Yorkers have been aware of his bullshit for much longer that the rest of the country, so they've had much longer to see through his facade of competence.
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AtticusP • 8 days ago
Look, I am the last person in the world that would defend Donald Trump.
I think he brings out the worst in many Americans.
But I'm just as appalled that a major American daily newspaper's headlines might well have been written by a mean girl from the eighth grade.
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coram nobis > AtticusP • 8 days ago
It's the Daily News. A tabloid of sorts. It was Archie Bunker's favorite newspaper, so that suggests that the Donald isn't going over well with that constituency.
It was always kind of less-than-subtle, e.g., their 1928 full-front-page photo of Ruth Snyder's execution and the headline "DEAD!"
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AtticusP > coram nobis • 8 days ago
Agreed, but still...
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coram nobis • 8 days ago
Snopes.com is doubtful.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/p...
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Bill_Perdue • 8 days ago
Before it was "Only Hindenburg can save us from Hitler." Now it's "Only Hillary can save us from Trump."
Both assumptions are pure bullshit. Hindenburg appointed Hitler Reichskanzler and signed the Enabling act, allowing Hitler to become a dictator and rule alone.
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lymis > Bill_Perdue • 8 days ago
First, I don't see anyone saying that "only Hillary can save us from Trump," but let's get real. If the man gets the nomination, only electing the Democrat will keep him out of office. It's not like there's lots of options.
But second, are you implying that Hillary Clinton would appoint Donald Trump to any position, period?
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Bill_Perdue > lymis • 8 days ago
1) All the right wing Democrats and Tories are saying "only Hillary can save us from Trump". That's pure BS.
2) Elections don't matter because they don't change anything but the faces of the criminals in the WH and Congress. Proof on file. http://mic.com/articles/87719/...
3) I was dismissing, as delusional, the idea that one reactionary, Hindenburg or Clinton, would 'save us' from another reactionary.
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Westboro Baptist Pickets At Scalia’s Funeral
February 20, 2016 Hate Groups, Religion
This morning members of Westboro Baptist are picketing outside the funeral of Antonin Scalia, who “well knows and understands the folly and fatality of that Catholic Monster he spent his life time nourishing and worshipping.” Because, presumably, Scalia is now in hell with billions of other Catholics.
Today’s protest is rather notable in light of the Supreme Court’s landmark 2011 ruling in Snyder V Phelps which affirmed the right of Westboro to picket funerals even if such protests are meant to “intentionally inflict emotional distress” upon the mourners. Scalia sided with the 8-1 majority in the case, with only Justice Samuel Alito dissenting.
The suit was brought by the family of a US Marine killed in Iraq, Matthew Snyder, whose 2006 funeral was picketed by Westboro members bearing signs that read “Semper Fi Fags” and “Thank God For Dead Fag Troops.” Snyder was not believed to have been gay.
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WebSlinger • 8 days ago
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Mihangel apYrs > WebSlinger • 8 days ago
wrong location
his roomies are Luke and Stan
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Phillip in L.A. > Mihangel apYrs • 8 days ago
Saddam and ... Satan!
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Mihangel apYrs > Phillip in L.A. • 7 days ago
Luke = Lucifer
Stan = Satan
But they would all object to this guy
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cleos_mom > Phillip in L.A. • 8 days ago
Larry, Curly & Moe
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Todd20036 > cleos_mom • 8 days ago
Don't diss the Stooges.
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RickCabral > Todd20036 • 8 days ago
Yeah. The stooges are a lot more intellectually refined, y'all.
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cleos_mom > Todd20036 • 7 days ago
Oy, what was I thinking!
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Phillip in L.A. > cleos_mom • 8 days ago
I was hoping maybe they'd be in Heaven....
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Phillip in L.A. > Christina Jelinek • 7 days ago
Flagged Sun. 21 Feb 2016 10:55 am
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J Ascher > WebSlinger • 8 days ago
He's been billeted to the SM Barracks.
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bryan • 8 days ago
I admire their ability to hold more than one hate sign at a time. It helps them look a bit crazier. But beyond that, they are attacking one of their own... Scalia was not far removed from Fred Phelps.
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Sam_Handwich > bryan • 8 days ago
i'm convinced it's nothing more than performance art
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clay > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
but then, you never lived in Topeka.
Their hate is real, and often aimed at their own children.
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Judas Peckerwood > clay • 8 days ago
"but then, you never lived in Topeka."
A-fucking-men!
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cleos_mom > clay • 8 days ago
Though oddly enough, they asked the director of "Fall From Grace" if he'd like them to picket the sneak preview in Kansas City KS. Presumably for free publicity.
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Duane Dimitrov > clay • 8 days ago
No one should live in Topeka.
If we want to sort our politics out in America, we needs to cordon off the "Heartland" and burn it--and its inhabitants--to the ground.
It's a modest proposal of mine.
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D. J. > Duane Dimitrov • 7 days ago
Brownback is taking care of that for you...
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Duane Dimitrov > D. J. • 7 days ago
Thank goodness.
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Rambie > clay • 8 days ago
Utah is bad enough.
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Dramphooey > bryan • 8 days ago
Having more signs than sign holders is not a sign of a growing or healthy movement. Of course it never was.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Dramphooey • 8 days ago
The only movement there is one of the bowel variety.
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RickCabral > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
Now you're talking!
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Rambie > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
Only their Depends knows for sure.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > bryan • 8 days ago
They practice their sign juggling with chainsaws.
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Paula > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
I would think that is an activity best preformed outdoors.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Paula • 8 days ago
OK... with a little fire, perhaps?
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David Walker > Paula • 8 days ago
Not if you're good, apparently.
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Phillip in L.A. > Paula • 8 days ago
Yes--there was a guy at the Venice beach boardwalk who used to juggle chainsaws, inter alia. Maybe he's still there?
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Johnny Wyeknot > Phillip in L.A. • 8 days ago
Bits of him maybe
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PLAINTOM > Johnny Wyeknot • 8 days ago
And there he is and there he is...
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RW > Phillip in L.A. • 7 days ago
I heard he was 'armless. Sorry- old joke.
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Gustav2 > bryan • 8 days ago
It is to help to get them aloft in the Rapture.
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clay > Gustav2 • 8 days ago
ahhh, little butterflies of hate.
Pull!
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JW Swift > clay • 8 days ago
Not that I approve of the implication of violence, bit SNORT! (Guffaw, chuckle, chuckle!)
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PLAINTOM > Gustav2 • 8 days ago
I encourage ALL right wing Christians to try this at home.
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Johnny Wyeknot > bryan • 8 days ago
I just wish it were a windy day here.
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DaveMiller135 > Johnny Wyeknot • 8 days ago
Sister Bertrille knows just how you mean.
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2karmanot > DaveMiller135 • 8 days ago
True that, but Sister Five Wounds really nailed it.
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Rambie > bryan • 8 days ago
True, but for once I'm not upset they're protesting at a funeral.
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Joann Prinzivalli > bryan • 7 days ago
The Phelps clan is of the traditional Christianist anti-papist variety - so for them, Catholics and LGBT folks are equally damned. As it is, I am sure that most of these predestinarian fundie types are sure that they are hellbound themselves. Their thinking is typified by the published sermmon from colonial times that I had to read in high school called "Sinners in the Hands of a Angry God." I *had* to read this drivel - you can read it if you want: http://www.jonathan-edwards.or...
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Steve Teeter > bryan • 8 days ago
They don't care. They just attack.
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olandp > bryan • 8 days ago
Nope, Fred taught that Catholics were Satan worshipers.
Only slightly more extreme than mainstream Southern Baptist teachings.
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Dan Flathers > bryan • 8 days ago
Well, it's obvious that you are far-removed from reality -- and much closer to the fanaticism and intellectual bankruptcy of the Phelps than you realize.
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Reality.Bites > Dan Flathers • 8 days ago
The best thing about both of them is that they're dead.
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DaddyRay • 8 days ago
Hey Christians - remember when you wouldn't speak out against these nut jobs when they were picketing our events
Karma has come knocking
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GayOldLady > DaddyRay • 8 days ago
I was at a pride march over 20 years ago and these guys were there with their "god hates fags" and "you're going to hell" signs. They taunted us a bit as we walked past them but everyone managed to ignore them because ignoring them is the only way to get even. They want attention and the less they get the better off everyone else is.
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Johnny Wyeknot > GayOldLady • 8 days ago
I have heard that their financial model is to stir people into assaulting them and then they sue for damages. You made the right choice.
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David Walker > Johnny Wyeknot • 8 days ago
You heard correctly. And because people have finally caught on, even with WBC trying to instigate fights, people have not engaged and it's made a dent in WBC's travels.
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Houndentenor > David Walker • 8 days ago
These days they announce protests far more often than they actually show up.
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David Walker > Houndentenor • 8 days ago
Yes, and this had a bad effect on LGBT and other groups who used to make money from the WBC's appearances. It had been a lottery...how long would they stay? Raised a fair amount of money until WBC figured out what was going on.
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Houndentenor > Johnny Wyeknot • 8 days ago
That is indeed their financial model. Fred Phelps was a lawyer and several other family members went to law school to fight these court cases. If they had no one to sue, they'd all be broke now. So please, as tempting as it is, do not engage them and do not let them provoke you to violence.
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NancyP > Houndentenor • 8 days ago
Fred was disbarred for ethics violations in Kansas.
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Silver Badger > NancyP • 8 days ago
It matters not. Fred has gone on to his just reward.
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John Henry > Silver Badger • 8 days ago
Wormfest.
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Grumpy old Man > GayOldLady • 8 days ago
They were scheduled to picket in Seattle a few years ago so a fund-raising effort started with donations based on how many hours/minutes they protested. This was pretty heavily pushed by the media and quite a crowd gathered to see how much money could be raised for LGBTQ issues. They canceled their visit - many people donated anyway.
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Ty Nolan > GayOldLady • 8 days ago
I was slated to speak at the Millennial March in D.C. and brought the SigO. He saw the WBC group picketing and insisted we hold hands and skip past them. That's been the only time we've skipped together in the past 20 years of our relationship.
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madknits > Ty Nolan • 8 days ago
My boyfriend and I were in the French Quarter on Mardi Gras Day when the Crazy Christers went by. We got into a clinch and started making out like crazy. We could hear their comments as they walked by. Icing on the cake: we're an interracial couple. That and our kissing really fried their asses.
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GayOldLady > Ty Nolan • 8 days ago
LOL!!! I can picture that!!!
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Goodboy > GayOldLady • 8 days ago
I guess it's easier to picket in safe zones since they've been getting their asses kicked by kids lately.
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David Walker > Goodboy • 8 days ago
Let's hear it for the kids!
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NancyP > GayOldLady • 8 days ago
No, ignoring them is not the ONLY way to get even. Using them as a fundraiser is a fine tactic, particularly if one has a counter protester with a sign "$X pledged to Local Gay Organization per minute that the Phelps picket".
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JCF > DaddyRay • 8 days ago
FYI, the first picket job of these sick fucks I really remember, was Matt Shepherd's funeral...at an Episcopal church.
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ben > DaddyRay • 8 days ago
I think they also protested Falwell's funeral.
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David Walker > ben • 8 days ago
Just did the google but couldn't find that they actually did. Lots of reports on their "intention" to picket it, but nothing about and no pictures of the real deal. Not to say it didn't happen...just that I didn't find anything. How nice it would have been....
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KCMC > DaddyRay • 6 days ago
Events. Early 90's flashback, they seemed to not miss a single gay man's funeral here in KC.
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BobSF_94117 > DaddyRay • 8 days ago
More like Karma-lite.
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Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
:-D
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MB > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
Good one Sam !!
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KnownDonorDad > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
OOOOOOOOH!
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William > KnownDonorDad • 7 days ago
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
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NancyP > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
You mean "Stay classy, felon ADULTERER!"
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Prion • 8 days ago
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Ritorna Vincitor • 8 days ago
Hell is actually different for each individual. For example, Hell for orchestral conductors is an orchestra pit occupied by nothing but banjo and accordion players.
Hell for Episcopalians is a restaurant with rude demon waiters and no salad forks.
For Scalia Hell is a perpetual 5/4 split in which he is always on the minority side. And no dissenting opinions may be delivered from the bench, but must instead be written in invisible ink which, no matter what he tries, remains invisible for all eternity.
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Beagle > Ritorna Vincitor • 8 days ago
And each one plays in a different key.
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NancyP > Ritorna Vincitor • 8 days ago
One of my favorites. Not on my work office door, which has science Far Sides.
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joe ho • 8 days ago
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Prion • 8 days ago
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David Walker • 8 days ago
I love it. Westboro's paying their respects the one way they know how. Haters saying "ta" to a fellow hater. It's just fucking perfect.
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TheManicMechanic • 8 days ago
These are your shit stains, Scalia. How do they smell now?
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DaveMiller135 • 8 days ago
You're nobody 'til somebody pickets you.
You're nobody 'til somebody dares.....
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sherman • 8 days ago
Million Dollar Question - How can anyone with decency or integrity support today's Republicon party? --
Edit: Someone pointed out that Muslim funerals are not held in mosques.
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sherman > sherman • 8 days ago
PS - Trump isn't at the funeral either.
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Reality.Bites > sherman • 8 days ago
They wouldn't let him give the eulogy, so he's boycotting it.
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JW Swift > Reality.Bites • 8 days ago
Yup, the spotlight is on someone else, so there's nothing that would feed his ego.
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cleos_mom > JW Swift • 8 days ago
By that standard, Trump should never attend either a wedding or a funeral.
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olandp > cleos_mom • 8 days ago
He only attends his own weddings, which keeps him so busy that he can't make it to any others.
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David Walker > sherman • 8 days ago
One of the republican'ts mantras: Do as I say, not as I do.
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Houndentenor > sherman • 8 days ago
Why would Obama go to Scalia's funeral. Does the Scalia family even want him there? This is just idiots looking for something to be mad about.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Houndentenor • 8 days ago
Obama went to the lying in state. Biden is at the funeral... part of a Veep's job description.
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Houndentenor > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
He's been far nicer to Scalia than Scalia ever was to him.
I like to reverse things to see if I'm being fair. If Scalia weren't coming to (FSM forbid) Obama's funeral, would I be offended? No.
So I really don't see that this is a problem. It's just something for right-wingers to smear the president with.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Houndentenor • 8 days ago
Yes... they'd find a way to smear him if he did go.
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Jay Sheckley > Houndentenor • 8 days ago
Yep. Obama IS nicer to to Scalia than Scalia was to him or any prez. Scalia was the ultimate egotist.
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MB > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
Also Joe is a Catholic. Our VP has a lot of class and humility.
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gewaite > MB • 7 days ago
Except for the plagiarism thing...
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Ty Nolan > Houndentenor • 8 days ago
This was actually given as one of the reasons he didn't attend by a NPR pundit, coupled with the apparently "official" response that Biden has a "smaller security footprint" than Obama.
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Phillip in L.A. > Ty Nolan • 8 days ago
We just experienced Obama's "security footprint" here in my neighborhood last week: streets barricaded for blocks around; no standing/stopping in a three-four block radius; literally hundreds of police, secret service, US marshals; we were actually trapped in our building because scores of motorcycle police parked their bikes in formation blocking our driveways.
The footprint is hyoooooooj.
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J Ascher > Phillip in L.A. • 8 days ago
When the President visited downtown Austin a couple of times, I couldn't leave work to go home for at least an hour after the event was done.
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Phillip in L.A. > J Ascher • 8 days ago
dang meddling Obama!
(Laughter.)
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zhera > sherman • 8 days ago
Yeah, because muslims get to be SCOTUS judges like, all the time!
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GuestStop > sherman • 8 days ago
It helps to have the ability to apply those selectively.
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NYCGUY • 8 days ago
but...but..but...but...Scalia was on their side.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > NYCGUY • 8 days ago
The irony totally escapes them.
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DaddyRay > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
I would like to see them do that
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Steven Leahy • 8 days ago
Seems like the Westboro group are becoming fewer and fewer with each "protest".
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Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
lol..........
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William > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
I always thought there was something alien about her.
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William > William • 8 days ago
Either that, or this, which is closer to a Peep.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > William • 8 days ago
Loved the Kids in the Hall.
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GanymedeRenard > William • 8 days ago
Goodness gracious! Is that Cruz in drag?
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William > GanymedeRenard • 8 days ago
Scary, there is a resemblance. It must be in the Canadian DNA.
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paganguy > William • 7 days ago
It's the smirk.
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kelven > William • 8 days ago
"Scarred for life… that's what they said…."
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Paige Turner > William • 8 days ago
That reminds me - I need a new salad bowl
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William > Paige Turner • 7 days ago
I bet you're having a craving for avocado as well.
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Paige Turner > William • 7 days ago
Funny you should mention that. I do. I have no idea why.
Oh, hang on
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
I hadn't thought of it before, but... spot on.
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Prion • 8 days ago
.,.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > Prion • 8 days ago
Too bad it's a different kind of cupidity that animates the right wingnuts.
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Stogiebear • 8 days ago
My only disappointment with the Westboro freaks being there to protest his funeral is that there aren't thousands of them.
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GuestMan > Stogiebear • 8 days ago
Thousands of funerals.
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Princess Lardass • 8 days ago
Another group of desperate attention whores. That reminds me. Anyone know how Dr. James D. Manning is doing?
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Silver Badger > Princess Lardass • 8 days ago
Unfortunately, Dr. James D. Manning is not doing well. He is suffering from delusions of adequacy, sanity and is basically just deluded. He did get a short stay on the auction, which gives a bit more time to the good guys who have raised over $300,000.00 so far.
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Jay Sheckley > Princess Lardass • 8 days ago
About his "Attorney's": Google says Manning's attorney's office is permanently closed.
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TampaZeke • 8 days ago
This is the first funeral in their decades long career of picketing that I don't give a shit.
You live by the hate, you die by the hate.
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TJay229 • 8 days ago
Eh, the one time I'm not mad at them.
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bambinoitaliano • 8 days ago
Funny how they did not protest the funeral of that blue tarp man. Cannot imagine what would the result be pitting one nut against the other :P
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geoffalnutt • 8 days ago
Notice that they're often chased away from LGBT events/occasions, but not so here. Begs a question, perhaps. I guess Scalia doesn't inspire a 'protective' outpouring.
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David Walker > geoffalnutt • 8 days ago
Scalia said it's OK.
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Lazycrockett • 8 days ago
So according to these wacko's heaven has like what 50 people in it?
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Mark > Lazycrockett • 8 days ago
49.
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Soren456 > Lazycrockett • 8 days ago
Good old American anti-Catholic bigotry did not die with the 1960 Presidential election.
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BobSF_94117 > Soren456 • 8 days ago
The Whore of Babylon has had six seats on the Supreme Court and Westboro is still whining about gays???
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > BobSF_94117 • 8 days ago
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Miji > BobSF_94117 • 8 days ago
Yes. Funny how as much as many of these right wing nutters hate Catholicism, they seem to only trust Catholic judges on the SC with abortion.
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David Walker > BobSF_94117 • 8 days ago
Yes, because
1) We're still here.
2) WBC sees the RCC as the Whore of Babylon, so the more RCCs sitting at the bench, the more god hates the USA.
3) Or something..
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cleos_mom > Soren456 • 8 days ago
But now it's reversed in GOPland: not letting clergy "help" a wannabe elected official is a minus.
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madknits > Lazycrockett • 8 days ago
And founder Fred Phelps isn't one of them, since he was turned out and repudiated before he died.
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Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
Send them to protest Daesh...
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GuestStop > Blake Jordan • 8 days ago
Toss them from the plane without parachutes. God will seem them safely to their targets.
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Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
Alito's dissent in Snyder missed the mark constitutionally, but is memorable..
"Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case.".... "In order to have a society in which public issues can be openly and vigorously debated, it is not necessary to allow the brutalization of innocent victims like petitioner."
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joe ho > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
So Alito hasn't read the Bible? It overflows with vicious verbal assault against outsiders. Jesus himself threatens people with hell more often than any other character.
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Gustav2 > joe ho • 8 days ago
Bible study is more of a Protestant thing.
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clay > Gustav2 • 8 days ago
The Catholics who seem to do it are the nuns and commies, or is that redundant?
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David Walker > clay • 8 days ago
I had a colleague who didn't mind people being anti-catholic (she was RCC) but who got into a rage when Pope Ratzinger and others started in on the nuns who were trying to do good.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > David Walker • 8 days ago
I remember when the Ratz went after the good nuns. That seems like long ago and far away. The new guy doesn't make any noises in that direction... and if he does, he'll say the opposite the next day. Not one for consistency, that Franciscus.
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David Walker > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
Francissy?
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gewaite > David Walker • 7 days ago
The nuns a
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Mute Point > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
It pains me to acknowledge that I agree with Alito on anything, but I don't believe his interpretation was unconstitutional even. The Constitution is open to interpretation, and the other 8 justices interpreted it more liberally. There is no reason that the U.S. Constitution has to allow hate speech any more so than it allows slander or death threats. As the U.S. continues to balkanize into religious hate groups of one strain or another, anti-hate speech laws may merit reconsideration, per the models of European countries. I would gladly have seen both Scalia AND Westboro prosecuted for hate speech.
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another_steve > Mute Point • 8 days ago
It's precisely the most heinous, most unpopular speech that requires and merits the strictest legal protections.
Anyone with an interest in free speech and the protection of minority views should be able to grok that.
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Claude Jacques Bonhomme > another_steve • 8 days ago
Advanced democracies with hate speech laws have a strong judicial oversight system and those laws are not abused. In a country like the US, with a very partisan judiciary, there is a significant risk of political interference.
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another_steve > Claude Jacques Bonhomme • 8 days ago
My telling you which words you may not utter -- including the forbidding of words that do not overtly call the listener to violence ("faggots are bad people") -- is an abuse of the highest order. (The "yelling 'Fire' in a theater" prohibition is justified because it's an incitement to panic that can cause immediate harm to others.)
Other than government legally "ordering" us what to think, I can't imagine a larger abuse of government power than government banning hateful speech where there is no overt call to violence.
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Shut Your Mouth > another_steve • 8 days ago
I don't agree that there are no limits on 'free speech'. And more imporantly, neither does the Supreme Court. And most importantly, the Constitution has never been construed to allow an absolute right to 'free speech', Just as it was not always interpreted to allow Marriage Equality, social conditions can evolve such that stricter limits on hate speech (Holocaust Denials, anyone?) could be found acceptable. I'm already to that point.
It's interesting how people are so willing to follow Euro models on health care or taxation, but somehow the Euro approach to dealing with hate speech is anathema to American values, and religiously-protected hate speech is sacred beyond all questioning.
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another_steve > Shut Your Mouth • 8 days ago
History will shame those countries that have put limits on unpopular speech in which there is no overt call to violence. To the United States' credit, it has no such laws -- and I hope to never see them here during my lifetime.
I remind you that the ACLU in "Skokie" went to court to defend the right of neo-Nazis to parade and speak. I assume you find the ACLU's action there repugnant.
Speech where there is an overt call to violence -- "Let's go now and kill some fags" or "Find a Muslim and let him know what we think of their religion!" -- should not be protected. Just as yelling "Fire!" in a theater should not be. In both instances, the public's safety is directly jeopardized. One of government's primary purposes is to protect the public safety.
Me calling Pat Robertson and Franklin Graham theofascist Nazi thugs, however -- and they calling me a faggot deserving of eternal damnation -- does not constitute a threat to the public safety.
Speech -- however abhorrent or unpopular -- where there is no overt call to violence, does not constitute a threat to the public safety.
In a free and open democracy, both the theofascists' and my speech must be protected.
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Sam_Handwich > Mute Point • 8 days ago
I think Justice Stevens said he would have joined Alito,....but he had retired by then
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Stev84 > Mute Point • 8 days ago
The US already has a giant loophole in free speech laws. It's called "obscenity". And like religious freedom it's very vague. Under so-called community standards, it can vary from place to place and if some people somewhere find something obscene enough it could be banned. Given the country's puritanical attitudes, it's of course usually used against sex and nudity.
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Reality.Bites > Mute Point • 8 days ago
I think that even if hate speech is acceptable under your constitution it does not follow that all speech is permissible under all circumstances. What Westboro does at funerals is not exercising free speech. It's harassment, pure and simple. Acceptable on their website. Acceptable at a protest outside a legislature or a courthouse. Not at the funeral of a private citizen who they decided to target.
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unsavedheathen > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
Well, in defense of Alito, in his mind calling someone a homosexual is the absolute worst thing one human being can say about another.
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Phillip in L.A. > unsavedheathen • 8 days ago
Agree--see my comment to San upstream
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Phillip in L.A. > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
Wonder if Alito, J., would have ruled this way if the deceased had been out and proud?
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Johnny Wyeknot > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
Thanks for the quote. The law is no place for sentimentality, which we got a lot of in the federal court opinions on marriage equality.
Edit: I didn't used to think this when I gleefully read some of the early marriage equality opinions. But a great legal scholar friend of mine actually changed my mind on this issue and I'm pretty sure he is right.
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Gerry Fisher > Johnny Wyeknot • 8 days ago
I'd agree with you about the majority opinion of Obergefell. Correct decision, but a very poorly argued, sentimental decision. I think the MA Goodrich decision was quite well reasoned.
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Phillip in L.A. > Gerry Fisher • 8 days ago
Agree. I think the explanation may lie partly in the fact that a majority of the Supremes do not support the Warren Court's equal protection analysis-scheme (perhaps justifiedly). But substantive due process? ¡Ay-yay-yay!
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Phillip in L.A. > Johnny Wyeknot • 8 days ago
FSM thank you both! I totally agree on this (and with Gerry Fisher below). Unfortunately, this is a very unpopular opinion right now; 99%+ don't actually read Supreme Court opinions
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another_steve > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
"Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case.".... "In order to have a society in which public issues can be openly and vigorously debated, it is not necessary to allow the brutalization of innocent victims like petitioner."
I always find it useful when evaluating the different legal takes on free speech to play a little mind game with myself and ask myself the "inconvenient" question:
What if suddenly the whole United States consisted of homophobic judges and of homophobic bakers who refused to bake wedding cakes for same-sex couples? What if I wanted to protest in front of such a bakery?
Would I want the baker -- the homophobic petitioner -- to be able to rely on a legal argument to suppress my speech under the rationale: "...it is not necessary to allow the brutalization of innocent victims like petitioner"?
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Gerry Fisher > another_steve • 8 days ago
Ummm, no. It would be more like you picketing the funeral of the homophobic baker's wife or husband or child. Plus, the petitioner was not asking that the statements not be made; they asked that the statements be made 100 yards away from the funeral (or some such).
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another_steve > Gerry Fisher • 8 days ago
Peaceful (even when morally abhorrent) picketing is analogous to speech. In "Skokie," the ACLU went to court to defend the right of neo-Nazis to parade with banners and the like, and to make their message heard.
The ACLU recognized that the neo-Nazis' parade --abhorrent as it was -- was a form of speech.
What Westboro does is a form of speech, and should be protected.
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Capritaur • 8 days ago
There is nobody's funeral WBC wouldn't picket, as long as that person is notable enough to get them attention. They will likely picket the funeral of Phyllis Schlafly, Billy Graham, and Pat Robertson because of they didn't adhere to some doctrine of their "religion" in some way.
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Robert Conner • 8 days ago
LOL. The Westboro Batshits versus the Magic Cracker Church. Priceless.
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j.martindale • 8 days ago
More signs! You can't get into heaven without more signs!
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teeveedub • 8 days ago
Hell is apparently going to be more overcrowded than a NYC subway car during morning rush hour.
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Silver Badger • 8 days ago
We should probably thank the Westboro Baptists for showing the world the true face of christionist fundamentalism.
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wayne > Silver Badger • 7 days ago
I really think no group has changed public opinion for the better more than the WBC.
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5moreminutes*imtired • 8 days ago
Well shit. If Scalia isn't bigot enough for them... I think they may have jumped the shark here.
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Jim E. • 8 days ago
Today the soul of Justice Antonin Scalia was committed to the everlasting arms of our savior by a 5-4 decision.
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Home To Roost • 8 days ago
Westboro Baptist condemning homosexuals and Catholics at Scalia's funeral is a poetry beyond all measure. "...rather refreshing, actually!", I'd say.
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JT • 8 days ago
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Dreaming Vertebrate • 8 days ago
The Westboro freaks are occasionally "useful idiots". At least good for a chuckle. So terribly sad they decided to picket Scalia's funeral. {snicker}
TERRIBLE!! and SAD!!!!
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Marides48 • 8 days ago
When making funeral arrangements, Don't forget the flowers & call Westboro Baptists.
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Glkanter • 7 days ago
The Scalia family should welcome the "counseling" being offered by the protesters.
Just like the women going for abortions appreciate the "counseling" Scalia's Supreme Court forces them to endure by protesters.
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Matthew Delemos • 8 days ago
All the infighting is so delicious!
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MattPS • 8 days ago
There's something really strange about the fact that they only seem to be out in full force (i.e., all six of them) for FUNERALS. I'd think that if somebody was your enemy, you'd be at home having a quiet celebration sipping bubbly when he or she died, instead of going to the trouble of spending a lot of dough on travel expenses. After all, that person wouldn't even be a part of your life anymore. What's the point of wasting time and money protesting outside of a funeral??
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pickypecker > MattPS • 8 days ago
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Phillip in L.A. > pickypecker • 8 days ago
Exactly. Schnauzer-boy loudly scratches his nails on the carpet to the same effect!
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Gerry Fisher • 8 days ago
Is there anybody unworthy of a Westboro protest other than current Westboro church members? At this point, I'd bet they'd even consider picketing themselves.
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Lazycrockett • 8 days ago
I will say all these priests/clergy people at his funeral look like pedophiles.
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GuestStop • 8 days ago
They look like demented pixies. Someone get the bug spray...after the funeral.
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Ninja0980 • 8 days ago
I don't get why they are protesting considering Scalia agreed with them.
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stevenj > Ninja0980 • 8 days ago
They are publicity whores not operating on all thrusters.
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David Walker > Ninja0980 • 8 days ago
You don't need a reason when Truth is on your side.
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JW Swift > David Walker • 8 days ago
Don't forget the trademark symbol.
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freehit > JW Swift • 8 days ago
Hold the Alt. key plus 0153 (from the number pad, not the ones along the top). ™
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Gerry Fisher > Ninja0980 • 8 days ago
"We protest CUZ!!!'
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KnownDonorDad > Ninja0980 • 8 days ago
The WBC is rabidly anti-Catholic, among other things.
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KQCA • 8 days ago
That's class. Leave it to the Baptists.
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2016A • 8 days ago
They are still a "thing"? Quit giving them media coverage and they will go away.
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BearEyes • 8 days ago
another carnival sideshow.
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Jake • 8 days ago
Who?
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zhera • 8 days ago
Isn't it ironic, dontcha think.
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ExGayTherapyKills • 8 days ago
He is in hell with the pedophile Catholic priest where he and other Catholics belong for allowing priest to rape and abuse their children, even today.
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TexasBoy • 8 days ago
No doubt, if there is an afterlife, Scalia is rejoicing at their right to protest and inflict pain upon his family.
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KnownDonorDad • 8 days ago
I'm surprised they showed up. I was part of a blocks-long "human wall" to shield mourners from the WBC a few years ago, and after much bluster they were nowhere to be found. Met some very good folks that day, some of whom I'm still in touch with.
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MB • 8 days ago
The organ music (and the performance of said music) at Scalia's funeral was grotesque and pathetic. For the recessional they co-opt our Anglican "I vow to thee my Country" - and change the words ???
- not to mention the 100 priests necessary to send the old fuck off to glory ??
THIS is, "I vow to thee, my country"
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Sam_Handwich > MB • 8 days ago
i liked the Duruflé fugue at the end
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MB > Sam_Handwich • 8 days ago
Too bad Jeremy Filsell was not at the organ. The music performance would have been stellar.
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Natty Enquirer • 8 days ago
So much for ecumenism.
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Houndentenor • 8 days ago
If there were an afterlife, Scalia would be laughing right now.
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DaddyRay • 8 days ago
OT: sort of
I wonder if Scalia was any other religion other than Catholic we would be seeing wall to wall coverage of the funeral on Cable News
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bryan > DaddyRay • 8 days ago
I felt sick when I saw on CNN, side by side photos of Harper Lee and Scalia, with the words 'legends' written underneath. The reverential coverage of Scalia is nauseating.
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GC > bryan • 8 days ago
Yeah, the late Justice Whatisname is best forgotten, except as a cautionary footnote in history books.
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stuckinthewoods > GC • 8 days ago
In the below link it is argued that Scalia will be remembered for his snappy quotes - but will have no lasting impact. His "originalism" and "textualism" influenced "admirers off the court, not adherents on the bench."
http://theconversation.com/jus...
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Stev84 > bryan • 8 days ago
The same thing happened with Jerry Falwell and Jesse Helms. Suddenly "don't say anything bad about the dead" turns into "we need to glorify and praise them all the time"
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zhera > bryan • 8 days ago
Sacrilege!
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Lazycrockett > bryan • 8 days ago
Well everyone has to be there to cover the primaries and caucus so the media may as well make a day of it.
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Gustav2 • 8 days ago
All Roman Carholics are going to hell! Finally, Westboro and I are in agreement.
/snark
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BobSF_94117 > Gustav2 • 8 days ago
They're too chicken to say it outright, though, it appears.
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David Walker > BobSF_94117 • 8 days ago
It costs a lot to make and plasticize those signs and WBC just doesn't have the bucks they had when Fred was around.
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Bob M • 7 days ago
Interesting use of the American flag... according to the Flag Code (yes there is such a thing) from Section 8 - respect for the flag: The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.: he flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.
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dcurlee • 7 days ago
They need mental evaluations. Trust me I'm no fan of Scalia but there is respect that should be shown for the dead
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3-Star • 7 days ago
I wonder how many showed up? I see three in the picture. Soon it will be ZERO
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Gina King • 7 days ago
Yet, not a single counter protester? Not one stood up for against the haters? wow...says a LOT that does.
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Bj Lincoln • 7 days ago
I hope he is pissed because he can't do anything about it now and doesn't have the last word on anything anymore. Ha Ha Ha Ha ! He deserves it.
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David Gervais • 7 days ago
Justice Scalia was not our friend, but (he) his family does not deserve the Westboro treatment.
There has to be some way of controlling them.
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RickCabral • 8 days ago
The ones really making here are the Westboro paper goods dealers and sign makers. These fuckers use a
LOT of signs and placards.
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JCF • 8 days ago
STOP making me feel sympathy for the Popoids, you WBC mofos!
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MBear • 8 days ago
good
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