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Hello everyone, I havenʻt been on here in awhile. Although I am not questioning my own sexuality I came across this amazing video today I wanted to share. I also wanted to say thanks to Sam,Rhonda,Tim,Cj,Valerie,Punkie and the many others on here that have helped me so much in my journey of recovery. Love you all, Derek
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That was very moving. Thank you for sharing.
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Derek ... that was a very VERY cleverly written movie! It's something kids should be shown!
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That was a good clip. Thank you for posting it.
I was in a situation some what similar back in the late 90s. Although, one's sexual preference wasn't as salient as it is in this film; one's sexuality was generally "known." It was a telemarketing call center, and the owner of the company was gay, and most of the floor supervisors were gay. Frankly, gay people had more status. It was a good experience for me, as being one of JWs, we were taught that homosexuality is wrong. Which also meant that I believed what they told me. I was "unlearning" what they taught me.
It appears that today the anti-homosexuality sentiment is becoming more institutionalized, rather than people openly showing hostility to someone because they are gay. I think this has to do with our government being too influence by conservative religion; and that lack of dialogue in our society with regard to sex and sexuality, particularly homosexuality. People do not like to discuss things on a deeper level. This is also true with race and racism. We don't discuss racism; in fact if you want to discuss racism or homosexuality, I mean "really" discuss it, you might be labeled a racist or homophobic--which could then turn into you being attacked.
On the bright side, we do, at least presently, live in an open society with regard to knowledge, so that one can still participate in their own learning and development with regard to these areas.
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Thanks Derek,
That got pretty uncomfortable for me, given my background and experiences.
For me, it's all about what expectations we impose on the kids. If there is no acceptance of who they are or what they are feeling, then tragedy can follow. So many parents have decided what their kid will be, before they have even met them. That is the big mistake. That big mistake often comes from religious authority, and is accepted without thought by many people. The truth is that people are born as 'who they are'. Many are not willing to be conformed by authority, to become what the parents want them to be.
For instance: I was born a 3rd generation JW from an exclusive JW family (strong in the truth.. ) When the faith didn't 'take', their behaviour was much the same as shown in your video. To be the' problem child', argued about and discussed as if not in the room.. while they try to bend you into the mould that they have decided you will fit. There is nothing more awful for an upset child than to have parents discuss about them within their hearing range.
Yes, I get it.
The rejection and hatred imposed by some people of faith, sanctioned by their religion, upon their own children.. it just boggles my mind.
However, I think that the fact that we have risen far enough over these things to understand and identify them says quite a lot about us as a community, doesn't it?
Cheers.
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That was a good clip. Thank you for posting it.
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It appears that today the anti-homosexuality sentiment is becoming more institutionalized, rather than people openly showing hostility to someone because they are gay. I think this has to do with our government being too influence by conservative religion; and that lack of dialogue in our society with regard to sex and sexuality, particularly homosexuality. People do not like to discuss things on a deeper level. This is also true with race and racism. We don't discuss racism; in fact if you want to discuss racism or homosexuality, I mean "really" discuss it, you might be labeled a racist or homophobic--which could then turn into you being attacked.
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Thanks Derek,
That got pretty uncomfortable for me, given my background and experiences.
For me, it's all about what expectations we impose on the kids. If there is no acceptance of who they are or what they are feeling, then tragedy can follow. So many parents have decided what their kid will be, before they have even met them. That is the big mistake. That big mistake often comes from religious authority, and is accepted without thought by many people. The truth is that people are born as 'who they are'. Many are not willing to be conformed by authority, to become what the parents want them to be.
For instance: I was born a 3rd generation JW from an exclusive JW family (strong in the truth.. ) When the faith didn't 'take', their behaviour was much the same as shown in your video. To be the' problem child', argued about and discussed as if not in the room.. while they try to bend you into the mould that they have decided you will fit. There is nothing more awful for an upset child than to have parents discuss about them within their hearing range.
Yes, I get it.
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Cheers.
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