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Posted: 28 May 2009 12:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   

   
 
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Anyone hear the Donny Osmond interview on Howard Stern today?   It was a repeat from ten years ago or more.  I have to give it to Donny he had balls for doing the interview.  He admitted to masturbating, lusting after other women, doing everything but sinking the battleship before marriage, seeing Marie naked, looking at Playboy, and having to constantly pray for help to not cheat on his wife.
It was a great interview.  I thought he was a douche bag when he came to the MTC to talk to us about how great the Osmonds were.  But after hearing this interview I have a little more respect for his honesty.


   


Posted: 28 May 2009 05:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]   

   
 
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Is it available online somewhere? I'd love to give it a listen. 

   


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I couldn't find it. It was great. I just read your band aid post. I tried to type something but our situation is so similiar that I just don't have an answer either. Good luck. 

   


            
 
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Posted: 21 May 2009 01:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   

   
 
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"So what if my daughter is a Lesbian....I love her.  Why does society have to separate.....???
 
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Look out church....Marie will defend her daughter...the line in the sand is drawn.
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Posted: 21 May 2009 03:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]   

   
 
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Kudos to her. As she said, Christ loved everyone ... why can't we just do that?
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Posted: 21 May 2009 03:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]   

   
 
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 Yahoo Marie!!!
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Posted: 21 May 2009 04:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]   

   
 
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Marie has proved she follows her heart, not some bigoted religion.
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 Yahoo Marie!!!
 
TruthR, did you know that Marie Osmond was once heavy-set like Oprah?
 

(Oh boy, why did I even open my mouth...here comes another beating!)
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jackfitzzzzz:
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 Yahoo Marie!!!
 
TruthR, did you know that Marie Osmond was once heavy-set like Oprah?
 

(Oh boy, why did I even open my mouth...here comes another beating!)
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And yes, if you watch the video provided on this thread, Marie says she has lost 50 pounds.
 
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Posted: 21 May 2009 08:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]   

   
 
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Bravo to her!  It warms the heart to hear parents sticking up for their homosexual/genderqueer/transgender children, especially when they're part of a religious organization.
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Posted: 21 May 2009 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]   

   
 
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That's awesome! Maybe my mom will see this and remember that she once felt the same way about me.
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Posted: 21 May 2009 12:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]   

   
 
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That's awesome! Maybe my mom will see this and remember that she once felt the same way about me.
Oh JustThinkin , That completely and totally sucks.  I hope one day she will see the light.  You know, Marie does like to adopt.....you're never too old to be adopted......it's worth a try.    
 
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Posted: 21 May 2009 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]   

   
 
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I lived in Marie's ward for a few years and she was my visiting teacher for a while.  I am SO proud of her.  I have been so pleased with the way she has handled herself.  So many mormon women have admiration and respect for Marie, I hope this might make at least some of them stop and think about their own views on the subject. 

   


Posted: 21 May 2009 03:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]   

   
 
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I have always liked Marie Osmond.  I think she's classy, funny as hell and tough as nails.   I hope other LDS mothers of gay children follow her example!
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Posted: 21 May 2009 03:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]   

   
 
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Another famous person's mother is Ellen DeGeneres' mother...who has always loved her daughter unconditionally. She isn't Morg, but has set the example for all parents of gay children....a great person.
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Posted: 21 May 2009 04:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]   

   
 
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That's awesome! Maybe my mom will see this and remember that she once felt the same way about me.
Oh JustThinkin , That completely and totally sucks.  I hope one day she will see the light.  You know, Marie does like to adopt.....you're never too old to be adopted......it's worth a try.    
 
 
 I suspect Marie has a lot more money to pass on than my parents do. Wait, though --- too many children have to split it. Besides, she's my age -- that'd just be weird. Now if she'd like to become my sugar mama. . .  nah - not my type.  
 
As for Mom -- I suspect she's displaying some incipient mental aging issues and that what I'm seeing now are real feelings that she's been considerately hiding. She gets props for years of good intentions and forgiveness for age getting the better of her.
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MsGabbieu:
I have always liked Marie Osmond.  I think she's classy, funny as hell and tough as nails.   I hope other LDS mothers of gay children follow her example!
 
I like Marie Osmond too and it is admirable that she is supporting her gay daughter.  But as I mentioned in another thread several months ago, there is still the $64 Million Dollar Question:
 

Would Marie Osmond be as dogmatic and outspoken and supportive of gay rights if she did not have any children who were gay?
 

Perhaps I am being cynical, but I think the answer is no.  Why mix it up with the Church if you don't have to.  She has a vested interest in doing so now, because of her daughter.  It is difficult for the Church to criticize her for supporting her child. 
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Except she's in the "biz" and is surrounded by gay people, and knows how kind and wonderful they are....probably more so than the "lay" membership of the church. So the answer could also be "yes"....
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Except she's in the "biz" and is surrounded by gay people, and knows how kind and wonderful they are....probably more so than the "lay" membership of the church. So the answer could also be "yes"....
 
The answer could definitely be "yes."  However, she has been in show business for over 40 years and up until now has been silent on gay rights.  Everyone knows who the Hollywood celebrities are who champion gay rights and Marie Osmond has not been one of them.  Until now.
 

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Posted: 21 May 2009 06:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]   

   
 
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She could have also "banned" her daughter from the home and been a "stiff-necked" mormon....she didn't. Wonder how many non-mormon show-biz folks stand up for gay rights?
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I have always liked Marie Osmond.  I think she's classy, funny as hell and tough as nails.   I hope other LDS mothers of gay children follow her example!
 
I like Marie Osmond too and it is admirable that she is supporting her gay daughter.  But as I mentioned in another thread several months ago, there is still the $64 Million Dollar Question:
 

Would Marie Osmond be as dogmatic and outspoken and supportive of gay rights if she did not have any children who were gay?
 

Perhaps I am being cynical, but I think the answer is no.  Why mix it up with the Church if you don't have to.  She has a vested interest in doing so now, because of her daughter.  It is difficult for the Church to criticize her for supporting her child. 
 
I think it is a little unfair to blame her for not speaking out for gay rights until she has a vested interest.  I think this is something that happens to us all on a variety of subjects.  Until we have walked in anothers' shoes and seen the other side of the issue, we often keep our opinions to ourselves.
 
For example - until I became an ExMo....it never occurred to me what an ExMo endured, especially an ExMo living in the land of Zion where LDS, Inc. influenced laws for all to live under.   I was not able to see the other side.  No doubt this has given Marie a chance to see the other side firsthand, and that always provides a new perspective. 
 
It is a heartbreaking reality that many LDS parents reject their gay children, and their rejection is supported by the church and it's members.  I applaud Marie Osmond for publicly supporting her gay daughter instead doing what so many others have done and rejected her completely. 
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I think it is a little unfair to blame her for not speaking out for gay rights until she has a vested interest.
There are many people who are never "put-to-the-test" on how they feel about gay rights, until they have children who are, have friends who are, have husbands/wives who are...(Carol Lynn Pearson comes to mind.) It's how they react and accept/reject that's truly important. Most people don't sit around and discuss sexuality all day....contrary to rumor.
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I think it is a little unfair to blame her for not speaking out for gay rights until she has a vested interest.
 
 
There are many people who are never "put-to-the-test" on how they feel about gay rights, until they have children who are, have friends who are, have husbands/wives who are...(Carol Lynn Pearson comes to mind.) It's how they react and accept/reject that's truly important. Most people don't sit around and discuss sexuality all day....contrary to rumor.
 Why not?
 
Actually I agree with you.  Marie didn't publicly stand up for gay rights until recently but I don't fault her for that.   I admire people that don't need a vested interest to stand up for another person's human rights but that is actually quite rare.  
 
There are dozens of important causes in the world that I am doing next to nothing about partly because I don't have a personal connection.  For example, I think what is happening in Darfur is horrible but I haven't done much about it.  If I knew someone affected personally, I might become more motivated.  Most people need a vested interest to act.
 
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Most people need a vested interest to act.
 
 
Thinking of all the actors/rich-and-famous who suddenly are working for "Autism Research" because they have children with the syndrome.
 
Even Jesus reacted to the human conditions he observed...the woman had to "touch" him before she was healed.
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I have always liked Marie Osmond.  I think she's classy, funny as hell and tough as nails.   I hope other LDS mothers of gay children follow her example!
 
I like Marie Osmond too and it is admirable that she is supporting her gay daughter.  But as I mentioned in another thread several months ago, there is still the $64 Million Dollar Question:
 

Would Marie Osmond be as dogmatic and outspoken and supportive of gay rights if she did not have any children who were gay?
 

Perhaps I am being cynical, but I think the answer is no.  Why mix it up with the Church if you don't have to.  She has a vested interest in doing so now, because of her daughter.  It is difficult for the Church to criticize her for supporting her child. 
 
I think it is a little unfair to blame her for not speaking out for gay rights until she has a vested interest.  I think this is something that happens to us all on a variety of subjects.  Until we have walked in anothers' shoes and seen the other side of the issue, we often keep our opinions to ourselves.
 
 
I'm not "blaming" Marie Osmond for anything.  I'm simply pointing out that, with over 40 years in show business and having been exposed to more gay people than the average Mormon, Marie Osmond has not been a gay rights advocate.  If you disagree with that then simply respond and say, "I think you're wrong Jack, Marie Osmond has been a gay rights advocate for years and the fact that her daughter is gay has nothing to do with her support of gay rights...Marie has always strongly and vocally supported gay rights."
 

ORANGE ABOVE:  Is it your opinion that Marie has always held strong opinions for gay rights but choose to keep her opinions to herself until it hit home when her own daughter came out?  I trying to think what might have influenced Marie not to speak out for gay rights even though she may have held strong gay rights beliefs?
 

Could Marie simply have kept quiet knowing that her Church considers gay people to be sick demonic sinners (that can be "cured").  What does that say about her.
 

My opinion is that the only reason that Marie is vocal now is because of her daughter.  She had 40 years to speak out for the gay cause and not a word came out of her mouth.  Now she's all onboard with "they are people just like the rest of us."  
 
Again, I still think she should be commended for supporting her daughter.  Many parents, both inside the Church and out, would not and have not done the same. 


 
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I'm not "blaming" Marie Osmond for anything.  I'm simply pointing out that, with over 40 years in show business and having been exposed to more gay people than the average Mormon, Marie Osmond has not been a gay rights advocate.  If you disagree with that then simply respond and say, "I think you're wrong Jack, Marie Osmond has been a gay rights advocate for years and the fact that her daughter is gay has nothing to do with her support of gay rights...Marie has always strongly and vocally supported gay rights."
 

ORANGE ABOVE:  Is it your opinion that Marie has always held strong opinions for gay rights but choose to keep her opinions to herself until it hit home when her own daughter came out?  I trying to think what might have influenced Marie not to speak out for gay rights even though she may have held strong gay rights beliefs?
 

Could Marie simply have kept quiet knowing that her Church considers gay people to be sick demonic sinners (that can be "cured").  What does that say about her.
 

My opinion is that the only reason that Marie is vocal now is because of her daughter.  She had 40 years to speak out for the gay cause and not a word came out of her mouth.  Now she's all onboard with "they are people just like the rest of us."  
 
Again, I still think she should be commended for supporting her daughter.  Many parents, both inside the Church and out, would not and have not done the same. 


 
 
Jack.....I think you missed my point.  For many of us imperfect humans, until we have a vested interest in a social issue, we usually don't have an opinion that we express publicly if it is in contradiction to our religious beliefs.  Even harder to do if you are in the public eye and everyone knows your religious affiliation.  I share your opinion that the only reason she is speaking out now is because her daughter is gay....I'm just not holding it against her that she didn't feel so inclined to become a gay rights activist before now.  I'm assuming she has privately supported her daughter for years.  I am also assuming the reason why she chose now to speak publicly about gay rights is because the tabloids are involved and she probably didn't want them making up stories about her NOT supporting her daughter.
 
Maybe 30 years ago she believed homosexuality was a sin (given her religious upbringing it's possible) and maybe now she realizes sexual orientation shouldn't be a reason to limit civil rights.  As we go through life, we learn, we grow, and guess what...sometimes we change our opinions.  This very well could be the case for her. 
 
Why turn the good thing she has done - supporting her gay daughter publicly DESPITE her religious upbringing - into a negative?  What purpose does that serve?
 
 
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activists in the GLBTQ community have a startegy regarding coming out -and that strategy states that more people will support GLBTQ causes when they actually know someone who is gay. When you find out someone you know is gay is not the horrible demon once portrayed by the religious right your attitude often is more open. we are seeing that more and more. Marie is another example of that. She will also be an example t many LDS parents though i'm sure many LDS parents are passing hideous judgement on her.
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Maybe the question should be directed to Marie's parents, did they advocate for gay rights?? What did they teach her about being "accepting" of everyone?? (Don't think they would have survived long in the business if they'd been raising hugely bigoted children.)
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Maybe the question should be directed to Marie's parents, did they advocate for gay rights?? What did they teach her about being "accepting" of everyone?? (Don't think they would have survived long in the business if they'd been raising hugely bigoted children.)
 
Do you think her parents were a little bit country or a little bit rock-and-roll?
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Now that is the question!!!
 
Actually, they first were "barber-shop" (Andy Williams Show) then morphed.
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activists in the GLBTQ community have a startegy regarding coming out -and that strategy states that more people will support GLBTQ causes when they actually know someone who is gay. When you find out someone you know is gay is not the horrible demon once portrayed by the religious right your attitude often is more open. we are seeing that more and more. Marie is another example of that. She will also be an example t many LDS parents though i'm sure many LDS parents are passing hideous judgement on her.
I've seen this first hand. 
An acquaintance of mine, who is somewhat religious (not mormon), told me he felt conflicted over Prop.8.  But he voted against it because he knows and likes me and my partner.  He told me his vote was for us.  He did it in spite of what his church said.  I thought that was one of the most generous gifts I'd ever been given. 
 
My hat's off to Marie.  She loves her daughter more than her dogma. 
 
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We can't support everything and everyone isn't political. We all have causes we support. Due to the constraints of time and money, we can't support everything we'd like. I haven't been active in support of gay marriage although I do believe in it. I do support other causes that are closer to my heart. That doesn't make me anti gay or a bigot anymore than you not supporting the causes I believe in makes you anti whatever.
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activists in the GLBTQ community have a startegy regarding coming out -and that strategy states that more people will support GLBTQ causes when they actually know someone who is gay. When you find out someone you know is gay is not the horrible demon once portrayed by the religious right your attitude often is more open. we are seeing that more and more. Marie is another example of that. She will also be an example t many LDS parents though i'm sure many LDS parents are passing hideous judgement on her.
 
 That's been my experience with some of the people around here.  Some like to just ignore it and make no comment, others agree with her, and still others scorn her for it.  I think it just makes what she's doing all the more admirable.
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When I saw her on ET the other night I was a little mixed.
I've always been a Marie fan.  (Donnie not so much as he lacks any real depth of character when he sings... like a sweet  loveable smiley happy  clone)
 
I thought it was great to see her  support her daughter. 
She said she was Christian and Jesus would love, etc
 
Then my husband and I wondered how she could justify the above with her own Mormon religions doctrines on a  strong stand against gay relationships.   
How does her mind claim she's Christian and grasp an idea of Christs actions and yet come to terms with the very true fact that Mormonism doesn't embrace homosexuality in the same way she just stated.    
 
Maybe this is an opening for her to recognize the differences?
Maybe not.
Time will tell how strong the mormon program is and if it does battle with her definitions of Christ which on this point are very different in detail and application to life within mormonism.
 
I'm rooting for Marie to see the differences and represent strongly on the differences.
 
...it might happen....   
although I'm not holding my breath.
 
 
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...Then my husband and I wondered how she could justify the above with her own Mormon religions doctrines on a strong stand against gay relationships.  How does her mind claim she's Christian and grasp an idea of Christs actions and yet come to terms with the very true fact that Mormonism doesn't embrace homosexuality in the same way she just stated.   
...although I'm not holding my breath.
 
 
Simple, in a very mentally unhealthy way.  You know the ropes, once you become sort of familiar with some of the minor inconsistencies and then the greater lies, involving the continuously deceptive practices encountered on a nearly daily basis.  By using nearly celebrity super human powers to insulate the dodging reality from the rest of your personal, not only disastrously upsetting, but potentially lethal world of coming crisis, it soon seems simple and easy.
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as i've stated before -hurray for Marie and my energy and love go to her for taking this stand.
 
 
I am wondering about the daughter. Is she/was she a mormon? if so, what will the church do to her? what effect will all that have?
 
 
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as i've stated before -hurray for Marie and my energy and love go to her for taking this stand.
 
 
I am wondering about the daughter. Is she/was she a mormon? if so, what will the church do to her? what effect will all that have?
 
 
any thoughts anyone?
If this is reliable (add salt), then I don't think she's that active. 
 
"Marie always envisioned Jessica being active in the Mormon church, going on a mission somewhere, marrying a great guy and giving her lost of grandchildren, but it's doubtful that's ever going to happen. Jessica and her partner consider themselves married, even though the haven't had an official ceremony. They've been together for about three years now and seem to be pretty happy," said a family insider.
When Jessica was 21, she and her then 16-year-old sister Rachel posted sexual explicit statements on their Myspace pages. Jessica posted that she was bi-sexual and wants to have sex "as many times as possible"; Rachel described herself as a "slut" and a "whore" who fantasized about David Bowie. (Rachel has since curtailed her slutty ways.)
"Marie just doesn't understand Jessica's lifestyle and it upsets her. She tries not to be too critical and often has to bite her tongue when they're together. Still, they've gotten into a lot of heated arguments," the insider said.
 
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Who knows...Marie could be "tweetering" here....(Waves to Marie.) Seriously...don't think Marie is going to be downing the church or it's policies any time soon...too many "religious" brothers, and honoring her father/mother and their thick mormon family. (Remember...she's had two divorces...not exactly the "prime" of LDS thinking at best....(woman are supposed to just sit and take it.)
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...Then my husband and I wondered how she could justify the above with her own Mormon religions doctrines on a strong stand against gay relationships.  How does her mind claim she's Christian and grasp an idea of Christs actions and yet come to terms with the very true fact that Mormonism doesn't embrace homosexuality in the same way she just stated.   
...although I'm not holding my breath.
 
 
Simple, in a very mentally unhealthy way.  You know the ropes, once you become sort of familiar with some of the minor inconsistencies and then the greater lies, involving the continuously deceptive practices encountered on a nearly daily basis.  By using nearly celebrity super human powers to insulate the dodging reality from the rest of your personal, not only disastrously upsetting, but potentially lethal world of coming crisis, it soon seems simple and easy.
 
 How did I forget.   How could I?
 
I don't think I forgot so much as I occasionally am aware of putting quite a barrier between my new self and old self that sometimes it's difficult for me to cross back over to figure it out.  Sometimes I identify easily.  This time apparently I didn't.
 But you're right,  and I did the same thing  in my own life with a lot of ease and conviction.   I didn't look for it to make any sense if it was going to cast the church in a bad light.  I always looked for ways to bend everything back to justify Mormonism in any way I could.   
 
And of course the corporation isn't likely to slap the O's  down when Marie  is a big  tithe payer and the O's are celeb  missionary member image boosters on E.T. every other week.     ((as much as I;ve always enjoyed Marie I can't for the life of me fiure out why on earth they showcase the Osmonds so much.   Their a 70's has been group who are E, no F  listers at best and unless the corp or buena vista entertainment own E.Tonight and allow the O's to get mo  coverage it's all beyond me.    That's not the point of this thread but I've always been curious about it.
 
Anyway,  I wish them all the best b/c I know how hard it was when I had to rearrange my mind to understand love in a very different way than I'd ever been taught in mormonism.    It's not easy and good luck to them all. 
 
 
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What's up with that?
 
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Posted: 29 January 2009 05:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]   

   
 
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Is the Empire of Osmondia losing it's status in the world of entertainment?
 
 
 

 
 
 
Reference, please.  (We are not all in Utah.)
 


   


Posted: 29 January 2009 05:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]   

   
 
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YesIAmAPyr:
What's up with that?
 
Is the Empire of Osmondia losing it's status in the world of entertainment?
 
 
 

 
 
 
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YesIAmAPyr:
What's up with that?
 
Is the Empire of Osmondia losing it's status in the world of entertainment?
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 Well Marie WAS on Dancing With the Stars....
 
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Posted: 29 January 2009 06:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]   

   
 
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Alan Osmond has been trying to recreate the success of his youth via his own sons for years. In the late 80s, in the wake of The New Kids on the Block craze, he trotted out "The Osmond Boys" to perform. They were pretty bland and made the orginal Osmond Brothers sound like Judas Priest.
 
I knew Alan back then and he frankly told me he hoped his boys would become famous "so they won't have to go on missions."
 
The kid wasn't bad. He had a voice that works for a show like Idol, I thought. The sad part is that Alan has MS and this kid who audtioned last night has it as well. That's got to be quite a blow.

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Posted: 29 January 2009 06:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]   

   
 
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YesIAmAPyr:
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Is the Empire of Osmondia losing it's status in the world of entertainment?
 
 
 

 
 
 
Reference, please.  (We are not all in Utah.)
 
 
The Pirate was shocked, shocked!, to see an Osmond family member audition with the great unwashed herds for American Idol (a nationally broadcast television show featuring aspiring singers who compete for the ultimate title of 'American Idol' and the accompanying benefits thereto).
 
I would have thought that the Osmond's would not need to attempt a break into 'showbiz' via this portal, what with a sizeable contact list of people in entertainment they must have on their collective Blackberries.  Showbiz thrives on the 'networking' between agents, managers, promoters, A & R's, et al.  You'd think that if the Osmonds are still in the industry, they could call in a few markers and get the kid a decent contract to get things going.
 
I'm just sayin'....
 
 
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I thought it was interesting that they talked about how friendly Salt Lake is, and how polite the people are, but not a word about mormonism.  
 
I liked the Osmond kid.  Agree with Zim that he has the kind of sound that would work for this show. 
 
www.americanidol.com is the official web site, but I didn't see any clips of young Mr. Osmond there.
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Ahhhhh yes, the Osmonds. I have just never seen so many teeth in one family in all my life.
 
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Posted: 29 January 2009 09:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]   

   
 
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Ahhhhh yes, the Osmonds. I have just never seen so many teeth in one family in all my life.
 
I'll bet their dentist is in tooth-fairy heaven Celestial Kingdom.

 
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hypatia:
Ahhhhh yes, the Osmonds. I have just never seen so many teeth in one family in all my life.
 
I'll bet their dentist is in tooth-fairy heaven Celestial Kingdom.
I vaguely remember an old TV show where Donny and Marie pulled out a set of those wind-up fake teeth and said they were "Osmo-chops".
I was never a big fan, but that actually made me laugh.  
 

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Osmonds just want the "legacy" to continue....Donnie and Marie just did a stint in Vegas....their faces were plastered a zillion feet high....
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Tessa:
Osmonds just want the "legacy" to continue....Donnie and Marie just did a stint in Vegas....their faces were plastered a zillion feet high....
Still there.
 
I'm trying to book the room with the window that is Marie's left incisor...

 
seems like it would be one of the brightest rooms, right??
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Nope.  Pirate here. 
 
 
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Ugh.  I live in Utah and I have a bad feeling that this is going to be another David Archuleta thing.  On the radio this morning that's all they could talk about -- and how upset they were at the judges for saying anything bad about him.
 
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Posted: 01 January 2009 04:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   

   
 
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So I googled Famous Mormons (wanting to check out Amy Adams of the movie Doubt--(she of the low-cut stylish gowns... oops veering off topic).
 
sure enough the site still exists  http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=famous+mormons&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
 
As well there are several other Famous Mormons sites. Then I did a few spot checks of Catholics, Christians, Baptists and sites exist for those too.
 
So it made me wonder, if there are famous people who are the same religion as you, does that give credibility to your belief system?
 
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Yep, for some people, the fact that a famous person believes or does or uses something is an actual endorsement.
 
That is why it is very, very important for political parties to showcase the famous who support the cause. There are actually people - many people - who take that as meaningful. 
 
 
 
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I believe that Mormonism has an inferiority complex, and so over compensate by trying and believing that Mormons are the best at everything!
 
Famous people confirm the church is true.
Olympic athletes confirm the church is true.
The wealth of the church confirms that it is true.
We contributed more to Prop 8 than any other organization - the church is true!
etc. etc. etc.
 
And if they happen to find an area that they can't figure out a way to show they are the best at, they use this strategy:
 
We have suffered more, so the church is true.
We are persecuted more, so the church is true.
People hate Mormons, so the church is true.
 
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I remember when I was first getting into the church were allways tellling me so and so is a member and so is this person. I remember thinking..."so?" 

   


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Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
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Cooper:
Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
 WHOA! I had no idea! 
 
As for famous members, when I was a TBM I felt like famous members made Mormons seem less weird.  "See, if Katherine Heigl is Mormon we can't be THAT weird!"  Although it bothered me a lot that most of the really famous ones clearly weren't active anymore.  I felt they weren't doing their part to represent the church well and had just been too sucked into the Hollywood lifestyle/deceived by Satan.  Now I really wonder if any of them have really done their research and left for the doctrinal/historical reasons.


   


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Carter:
I believe that Mormonism has an inferiority complex, and so over compensate by trying and believing that Mormons are the best at everything!
 
Famous people confirm the church is true.
Olympic athletes confirm the church is true.
The wealth of the church confirms that it is true.
We contributed more to Prop 8 than any other organization - the church is true!
etc. etc. etc.
 
And if they happen to find an area that they can't figure out a way to show they are the best at, they use this strategy:
 
We have suffered more, so the church is true.
We are persecuted more, so the church is true.
People hate Mormons, so the church is true.
 
Everything and anything confirm the church is true.  But they especially like the extremes.
 You're absolutely right about the inferiority complex.  In the '80's, when Michael Jackson was so popular, the JW's had a huge surge in membership.  As a missionary, we often got the question about were there any famous Mormons aside from the Osmonds.  That was before Sister Gladys Knight, Survivor, The Real World, and all those Dancing With the Stars and American Idol contestants.  Canadians only knew Junior Ah You, who played for the Concordes for awhile, and it was common knowledge Randy Bachman was LDS.  
 
Having famous people as members of your church legitimizes you.  Or something.  I never could figure that out.  
 
It also may be the Mormons' desire to prove "we're not really freaks!"
 
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Posted: 04 January 2009 11:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]   

   
 
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Cooper:
Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
^The Famous Mormons site lists them all and then some.
 
And yes having famous people in your religion absolutely validates it.. Didn't you all KNOW that?? I mean you all should become Muslim immediately.. We have Cat Stevens.. how cool is that? Er.. um.....kindlly overlook Osama Bin Laden and all the pesky terrorists, and of course the most sinister of them all... Michael Jackson.
 
Seriously though, I'm always interested to learn if someone famous is a Mormon.


   


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Anaar:
Cooper:
Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
^The Famous Mormons site lists them all and then some.
 
And yes having famous people in your religion absolutely validates it.. Didn't you all KNOW that?? I mean you all should become Muslim immediately.. We have Cat Stevens.. how cool is that? Er.. um.....kindlly overlook Osama Bin Laden and all the pesky terrorists, and of course the most sinister of them all... Michael Jackson.
 
Seriously though, I'm always interested to learn if someone famous is a Mormon.
 
Gary Gilmore came from a long line of Mormon heritage....in 1977, he was the first man executed in the US, after Capitol punishment was suspended by the Supreme Court in 1972.
 
I don't know if Gary was actually a Mormon or not. His mother was, but married outside of the church to a drunken, con man.
 
Gilmore's brother Mikyl wrote Shot in the Heart. It is a good book with a lot of info about blood attonement and the Danites.
 
On a side note.....
I was never really impressed by the fact that certain people were Mormon. I figured if I only concentrated on those people, think of all the really wonderful people outside of the Morg that I would miss out on. Including my current husband, who is one of the finest people I have ever met. He is a good man, with a good heart, a hard working honest man, who treats me with all the love, respect and equality that I never had in my Ultra Mo temple marriage.
 
Even while I was involved in the church, I had decided that if I met a man who was not a Mo I would give him a chance because I wasn't all the impressed with most of the Morg men that I knew.
 
 


   


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TattooMe:
Anaar:
Cooper:
Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
^The Famous Mormons site lists them all and then some.
 
And yes having famous people in your religion absolutely validates it.. Didn't you all KNOW that?? I mean you all should become Muslim immediately.. We have Cat Stevens.. how cool is that? Er.. um.....kindlly overlook Osama Bin Laden and all the pesky terrorists, and of course the most sinister of them all... Michael Jackson.
 
Seriously though, I'm always interested to learn if someone famous is a Mormon.
 
Gary Gilmore came from a long line of Mormon heritage....in 1977, he was the first man executed in the US, after Capitol punishment was suspended by the Supreme Court in 1972.
 
I don't know if Gary was actually a Mormon or not. His mother was, but married outside of the church to a drunken, con man.
 
Gilmore's brother Mikyl wrote Shot in the Heart. It is a good book with a lot of info about blood attonement and the Danites.
 
On a side note.....
I was never really impressed by the fact that certain people were Mormon. I figured if I only concentrated on those people, think of all the really wonderful people outside of the Morg that I would miss out on. Including my current husband, who is one of the finest people I have ever met. He is a good man, with a good heart, a hard working honest man, who treats me with all the love, respect and equality that I never had in my Ultra Mo temple marriage.
 
Even while I was involved in the church, I had decided that if I met a man who was not a Mo I would give him a chance because I wasn't all the impressed with most of the Morg men that I knew.
 
 
Gary Gilmore recieved Catholic last rites from the priest who accompanied him to his execution. I was taking an Italian class from the priest at the time and he mentioned it to the class, so I would assume that Gilmore wasn't active or that he wasn't a Mormon at all.
 
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Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
^The Famous Mormons site lists them all and then some.
 
And yes having famous people in your religion absolutely validates it.. Didn't you all KNOW that?? I mean you all should become Muslim immediately.. We have Cat Stevens.. how cool is that? Er.. um.....kindlly overlook Osama Bin Laden and all the pesky terrorists, and of course the most sinister of them all... Michael Jackson.
 
Seriously though, I'm always interested to learn if someone famous is a Mormon.
 
Gary Gilmore came from a long line of Mormon heritage....in 1977, he was the first man executed in the US, after Capitol punishment was suspended by the Supreme Court in 1972.
 
I don't know if Gary was actually a Mormon or not. His mother was, but married outside of the church to a drunken, con man.
 
Gilmore's brother Mikyl wrote Shot in the Heart. It is a good book with a lot of info about blood attonement and the Danites.
 
On a side note.....
I was never really impressed by the fact that certain people were Mormon. I figured if I only concentrated on those people, think of all the really wonderful people outside of the Morg that I would miss out on. Including my current husband, who is one of the finest people I have ever met. He is a good man, with a good heart, a hard working honest man, who treats me with all the love, respect and equality that I never had in my Ultra Mo temple marriage.
 
Even while I was involved in the church, I had decided that if I met a man who was not a Mo I would give him a chance because I wasn't all the impressed with most of the Morg men that I knew.
 
 
Gary Gilmore recieved Catholic last rites from the priest who accompanied him to his execution. I was taking an Italian class from the priest at the time and he mentioned it to the class, so I would assume that Gilmore wasn't active or that he wasn't a Mormon at all.
 
I know that his mothers family was Mormon but I wasn't sure about Gary. It's hard to know what was true and what wasn't. His dad's mother told them that their dad was Houdini's illigitimate son and their mother told of witnessing a public hanging when she was a child. Pretty messed up family.
 


   


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Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
^The Famous Mormons site lists them all and then some.
 
And yes having famous people in your religion absolutely validates it.. Didn't you all KNOW that?? I mean you all should become Muslim immediately.. We have Cat Stevens.. how cool is that? Er.. um.....kindlly overlook Osama Bin Laden and all the pesky terrorists, and of course the most sinister of them all... Michael Jackson.
 
Seriously though, I'm always interested to learn if someone famous is a Mormon.
 
Gary Gilmore came from a long line of Mormon heritage....in 1977, he was the first man executed in the US, after Capitol punishment was suspended by the Supreme Court in 1972.
 
I don't know if Gary was actually a Mormon or not. His mother was, but married outside of the church to a drunken, con man.
 
Gilmore's brother Mikyl wrote Shot in the Heart. It is a good book with a lot of info about blood attonement and the Danites.
 
On a side note.....
I was never really impressed by the fact that certain people were Mormon. I figured if I only concentrated on those people, think of all the really wonderful people outside of the Morg that I would miss out on. Including my current husband, who is one of the finest people I have ever met. He is a good man, with a good heart, a hard working honest man, who treats me with all the love, respect and equality that I never had in my Ultra Mo temple marriage.
 
Even while I was involved in the church, I had decided that if I met a man who was not a Mo I would give him a chance because I wasn't all the impressed with most of the Morg men that I knew.
 
 
Gary Gilmore recieved Catholic last rites from the priest who accompanied him to his execution. I was taking an Italian class from the priest at the time and he mentioned it to the class, so I would assume that Gilmore wasn't active or that he wasn't a Mormon at all.
 
I know that his mothers family was Mormon but I wasn't sure about Gary. It's hard to know what was true and what wasn't. His dad's mother told them that their dad was Houdini's illigitimate son and their mother told of witnessing a public hanging when she was a child. Pretty messed up family.
 
I don't know anything about his religious beliefs other than he chose a priest to be with him when he died. I remember they made a movie about it and it priest played himself.I don't know if he had been baptized or had any Mormon training.
 
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I just realized, my last comment may sound like something a troll would ask...but I was seriously wondering (not being sarcastic as it may appear)...I personally wish the former Mormon scientists who found the DNA evidence that shows where Native Americans descend from, ought to be famous...The fact that native DNA tests dont get more media attention makes me wonder...is the media afraid to disprove the BOM? Maybe they get a lot of money from the SCC to keep their collective mouths shut... 

   


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I just realized, my last comment may sound like something a troll would ask...but I was seriously wondering (not being sarcastic as it may appear)...I personally wish the former Mormon scientists who found the DNA evidence that shows where Native Americans descend from, ought to be famous...The fact that native DNA tests dont get more media attention makes me wonder...is the media afraid to disprove the BOM? Maybe they get a lot of money from the SCC to keep their collective mouths shut...
 
Was it a Mo scientist who discovered that? I'm only familiar with Southerton who, as a scientist, found the evidence irrefutable and ended up leaving the church because of it. But I had thought the studies were by non-Mos. Certainly if that was done originally by a Mo, they deserve a medal for their integrity.
 
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I just realized, my last comment may sound like something a troll would ask...but I was seriously wondering (not being sarcastic as it may appear)...I personally wish the former Mormon scientists who found the DNA evidence that shows where Native Americans descend from, ought to be famous...The fact that native DNA tests dont get more media attention makes me wonder...is the media afraid to disprove the BOM? Maybe they get a lot of money from the SCC to keep their collective mouths shut...
 
Was it a Mo scientist who discovered that? I'm only familiar with Southerton who, as a scientist, found the evidence irrefutable and ended up leaving the church because of it. But I had thought the studies were by non-Mos. Certainly if that was done originally by a Mo, they deserve a medal for their integrity.
 
Maybe it was'nt a Mormon who was over the tests, but they were involved, and they looked so conflicted on the Youtube video where they discussed the results...They appeared to be on the verge of tears while talking about it...
 


   


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Gary Gilmore recieved Catholic last rites from the priest who accompanied him to his execution. I was taking an Italian class from the priest at the time and he mentioned it to the class, so I would assume that Gilmore wasn't active or that he wasn't a Mormon at all.
 
 
I'm sure he's been necro-dunked by now.  As for the original question, Jesus was a Jew, but the Jews don't seem to be thrilled about it.
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The Scientologists do this same thing....Tom Cruise, anybody?
 
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I believe that Mormonism has an inferiority complex, and so over compensate by trying and believing that Mormons are the best at everything!
 
Famous people confirm the church is true.
Olympic athletes confirm the church is true.
The wealth of the church confirms that it is true.
We contributed more to Prop 8 than any other organization - the church is true!
etc. etc. etc.
 
And if they happen to find an area that they can't figure out a way to show they are the best at, they use this strategy:
 
We have suffered more, so the church is true.
We are persecuted more, so the church is true.
People hate Mormons, so the church is true.
 
Everything and anything confirm the church is true.  But they especially like the extremes.
 
 I think exactly the same thing.  Steve Young with a super bowl vicotory and in the NFL Hall of Fame concludes that the church is true.
 
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Posted: 05 January 2009 10:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]   

   
 
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Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
 I dunno about the two other fellas, but I'm about 60% sure that Ted Bundy was not a mormon. According to the Wikipedia site, he was an active Methodist in his youth, but not other mention of a later conversion or anything suggests or supports the idea that he was a mormon. Just because someone lived in Utah does not mean they automatically drank the Kool Aid and just couldn't resist joining the church.
 
Same goes for Alice Cooper or Mick Jagger. Neither one sat on a jet with a GA and decided his rock and roll lifestyle was all wrong and he must simply join The Church.
 
It's all nonsense/appeal to authority type of logic, which is to say... it's not logical at all.
 
Let me know what evidence you find that Ted Bundy really was actually a mormon, even if only for five minutes. I don't buy it for one second.  
 
Oh, and Matt Stone and Trey Parker are not mormons either. Matt Stone just grew up around a lot of mormons so their knowlege is circumstantial. They are the only brilliant comedy writers who seem to be aware that mormonism is rife with comedy gold just waiting to be mined. Aside from our own Peter_Mary, of course, who has already plundered several really great mormon funnies. 
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 Randy Bachman...
 
 Define "famous."
 
I mean, I know who Randy Bachman is, but I'm an audiophile and am very much into music. I bet I could throw a rock and hit someone who has never heard of him. 
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Nothing like a bit of selective memory on the part of TBMs. They seem to overlook Mormons such as Ted Bundy, Arthur Gary Bishop, and Glenn Taylor Helzer. Quite the string of serial killers.
 
 I dunno about the two other fellas, but I'm about 60% sure that Ted Bundy was not a mormon. According to the Wikipedia site, he was an active Methodist in his youth, but not other mention of a later conversion or anything suggests or supports the idea that he was a mormon. Just because someone lived in Utah does not mean they automatically drank the Kool Aid and just couldn't resist joining the church.
 
Same goes for Alice Cooper or Mick Jagger. Neither one sat on a jet with a GA and decided his rock and roll lifestyle was all wrong and he must simply join The Church.
 
It's all nonsense/appeal to authority type of logic, which is to say... it's not logical at all.
 
Let me know what evidence you find that Ted Bundy really was actually a mormon, even if only for five minutes. I don't buy it for one second.  
 
Oh, and Matt Stone and Trey Parker are not mormons either. Matt Stone just grew up around a lot of mormons so their knowlege is circumstantial. They are the only brilliant comedy writers who seem to be aware that mormonism is rife with comedy gold just waiting to be mined. Aside from our own Peter_Mary, of course, who has already plundered several really great mormon funnies. 
 
I read that Bundy was baptized while he lived in Utah. His girl friend in Washington was Mormon. He did it partly to please her and partly to fit in.In Utah being a Mormon is an advantage and Bundy was an opportunist.He never actually lived a Mormon life.As a predator, perhaps he thought that being a clean-cut Mormon law student would help deflect suspicion from him. It was part of his Utah image.
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Maybe we should start a web site of infamous Mormons!
 
P.S. Alice Cooper is "sort of Mormon" in a loose sense:  His grandfather was an apostle in the Bickertonite Church (a splinter Mormon church based in Pittsburgh, PA). 


   


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I read that Bundy was baptized while he lived in Utah. His girl friend in Washington was Mormon. He did it partly to please her and partly to fit in.In Utah being a Mormon is an advantage and Bundy was an opportunist.He never actually lived a Mormon life.As a predator, perhaps he thought that being a clean-cut Mormon law student would help deflect suspicion from him. It was part of his Utah image.
 
It's entirely possible, but my burning question is where did you read that? Ann Rule did extensive research on the guy and knew him, so if you read it in her book, then I will accept this as fact, stand corrected, and acknowledge that I don't actually know everything.  Otherwise, I'd be interested in knowing what your source is, if you remember. (I never remember where I read things...)
 
I've seen him noted as a mormon on the interwebs before, too, so I'm not too sure what info out there is credible and what is, well, wishful thinking, I guess.  I have a passing fascination with Bundy myself because I live in one of the cities where he did some killin'.
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I think I read it in Ann Rule's book, but I could be wrong since I read it years ago. I've read other books about him and, since I live in Utah, there was plenty written locally about him at the time of his arrest, trials and execution. I'm not absolutely sure of my source, but I'm pretty sure he joined. I know he met with some bishop when he was investigating. The bishop invited him to dinner where Bundy complimented his teen-aged daughter on her beautiful long, dark hair. The man was totally freaked out when Bundy was charged with raping and killing all those girls who had long dark hair. If I have a chance, I'll  try to locate Rule's book and see if that was where I read it.
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The mormon grapevine also get excited about any celebrity who just LIVES in Utah.  Choosing Utah is oh so close to being Mormon.  It's probably just a matter of time.
 
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 Randy Bachman...
 
 Define "famous."
 
I mean, I know who Randy Bachman is, but I'm an audiophile and am very much into music. I bet I could throw a rock and hit someone who has never heard of him. 
 
30 years ago maybe.  Tal would probably be more "famous" but still a bit past his "famous" prime.  My guess, though, is that we can claim about half of the people on the "famous mormons" site.  I mean, do you really think that Sister Heigl pays her 10%?
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I think I read it in Ann Rule's book, but I could be wrong since I read it years ago. I've read other books about him and, since I live in Utah, there was plenty written locally about him at the time of his arrest, trials and execution. I'm not absolutely sure of my source, but I'm pretty sure he joined. I know he met with some bishop when he was investigating. The bishop invited him to dinner where Bundy complimented his teen-aged daughter on her beautiful long, dark hair. The man was totally freaked out when Bundy was charged with raping and killing all those girls who had long dark hair. If I have a chance, I'll  try to locate Rule's book and see if that was where I read it.
 
I forgot about the recanted Ted Bundy encounters circulating around the LDS functions after his final arrest was made.  Yes, I actually knew a girl whom almost left a dance with that creepy killer.  The nearly overt pressure excised on long dark haired young women, targeted by him, was sure to have happened in and around Provo, Utah.
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...I live in one of the cities where he did some killin'.
 
He dumped one of the bodies behind my Ward house, when I was a kid.  Pretty creepy.
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D. B. Cooper.
 
There is a book written by the FBI guy who did extensive investigation into the D.B. Cooper case and claims emphatically that it is one Richard McCoy.  The name of the book "The Real McCoy".  
 
For any of those that are that old or recall, he is the guy who hijacked an airplane with a bunch of money and bailed out over Provo, Ut.  The FBI nabbed him after a few days along with the money.  I believe the headlines were:  "Mormon Sunday School Teacher HiJacks Airplain".  
 
Anyway, he was convicted and got killed some years later after escaping prison.  At the time he was a BYU student and Sunday School teacher.
 
Does that qualify for famous mormon?
 
 
He was pretty famous of a little while.  Of course, the legend of DB Cooper lives on.
 


   


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D. B. Cooper.
 
There is a book written by the FBI guy who did extensive investigation into the D.B. Cooper case and claims emphatically that it is one Richard McCoy.  The name of the book "The Real McCoy".  
 
For any of those that are that old or recall, he is the guy who hijacked an airplane with a bunch of money and bailed out over Provo, Ut.  The FBI nabbed him after a few days along with the money.  I believe the headlines were:  "Mormon Sunday School Teacher HiJacks Airplain".  
 
Anyway, he was convicted and got killed some years later after escaping prison.  At the time he was a BYU student and Sunday School teacher.
 
Does that qualify for famous mormon?
 
 
He was pretty famous of a little while.  Of course, the legend of DB Cooper lives on.
 
 
Although the Cooper/McCoy connection is tantalizing, it has never been conclusively proven that they are one and the same person...
 
I'd like to think that D. B. is still around.  It makes for a good story...
 
To answer the question, hell yeah, Mc Coy is a famous mormon, let us not forget...
 
 
 
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Posted: 15 November 2007 04:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   

   
 
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For those of you who live in SLC and surrounding areas.  I just wanted to publicly say that I am tired of Donny Osmund.  I'm tired of seeing him on the news.  I'm tired of seeing him on ET. I am tired of seeing him anywhere.  I dont think that he is that great.  I just dont understand all the buzz. 
 
I am also tired of his sister Marie. 
 
I think that Donny and Marie are media whores.  They are even going to be on the show on CNN with the dead guy tonight where she talks about her 16 year old abdopted son ( oh, look at me, im so nice) that just went to re-hab.
 
Sorry. I just needed to say that and nobody is hear to listen to me.


   


Posted: 15 November 2007 04:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]   

   
 
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Now, why would you feel like the Osmonds are media whores? I just can't understand what you're talking about...
 
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Posted: 15 November 2007 04:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]   

   
 
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For those of you who live in SLC and surrounding areas.  I just wanted to publicly say that I am tired of Donny Osmund.  I'm tired of seeing him on the news.  I'm tired of seeing him on ET. I am tired of seeing him anywhere.  I dont think that he is that great.  I just dont understand all the buzz. 
 
I am also tired of his sister Marie. 
 
I think that Donny and Marie are media whores.  They are even going to be on the show on CNN with the dead guy tonight where she talks about her 16 year old abdopted son ( oh, look at me, im so nice) that just went to re-hab.
 
Sorry. I just needed to say that and nobody is hear to listen to me.
 
In one ear and out the other!    Like you, I just wanna puke anytime I hear about the Osmond's. 


   


Posted: 15 November 2007 04:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]   

   
 
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Ugh, me too. sick Anytime I see one of them on TV, I change the channel. A bunch of Osmond kids went to my high school. My best friend had a crush on one of them for awhile. I got sick of even hearing that last name. Bleh. shut eye
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Posted: 15 November 2007 04:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]   

   
 
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They talk about being such good mormons.  They stand for evertthing that a good mormon would. 
 
Then marie talks about her being depression and all that crap.  She is a model mormon. So much that she probably doesn't even realize it.  She is messed up.  To top it all off, her son gets sent off to rehap for who knows what and she is still hanging out on that damn tv show. 
 
They are trying so hard to look good for the public.  It kills me.
 


   


Posted: 15 November 2007 04:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]   

   
 
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For those of you who live in SLC and surrounding areas.  I just wanted to publicly say that I am tired of Donny Osmund.  I'm tired of seeing him on the news.  I'm tired of seeing him on ET. I am tired of seeing him anywhere.  I dont think that he is that great.  I just dont understand all the buzz. 
 
I am also tired of his sister Marie. 
 
I think that Donny and Marie are media whores.  They are even going to be on the show on CNN with the dead guy tonight where she talks about her 16 year old abdopted son ( oh, look at me, im so nice) that just went to re-hab.
 
Sorry. I just needed to say that and nobody is hear to listen to me.
 
I met Marie when I was 19 and new on my mission. She had just gotten married to the guy who was doing Phone SEX/ Porn- the BYU Basketball Hero!...as I recall. Actually Marie was pretty dang cute, but I was a horny 19 year old missionary too. At any rate I think you are correct. My last companion was from Provo and his mother worked at the Osmond Studio. He hated the Osmond's. Said they were totally PHONEY Mormons.  I would guess that they like Mitt Romney realise the  enormous base of support within the MO FO Church membership, and they ain't about to ruin that FREE GRAVY TRAIN.  Get ready, the cameras are rolling, Smile and act like everything is just fine!  AHHHH THATS SO SPECIAL!


   


Posted: 15 November 2007 05:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]   

   
 
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Now, why would you feel like the Osmonds are media whores? I just can't understand what you're talking about...
 
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Posted: 15 November 2007 05:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]   

   
 
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Ironically enough....the Osmond studio was converted to a drug rehabilitation center.  The one lindsay lohan just checked out of.  A useless fact for your enjoyment..... 

   


Posted: 15 November 2007 05:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]   

   
 
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I'm so sick of the Osmonds, too.

When I was growing up in the church, I used to perform quite a bit with my own brothers and sisters. My whole family could sing, and quite a few of my nieces and nephews were singers and musicians, too. I still love making music, many years later.

At one point, my mother got it into her head that we should form a group like the Osmonds. Our family name was Marshall and she wanted to call us the "Marshmelodies."

"No way!" was my reply.   


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Posted: 15 November 2007 05:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]   

   
 
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OMG she is going to be on Leno tonight.  Will I never be able to get away from this torture.   I'm going to !!!
 
F*** it.  I'm going to bed.


   


Posted: 15 November 2007 06:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]   

   
 
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At one point, my mother got it into her head that we should form a group like the Osmonds. Our family name was Marshall and she wanted to call us the "Marshmelodies."
 
    
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Marshmelodies?!  That is hysterical!
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Posted: 15 November 2007 06:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]   

   
 
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Donny and Marie in bed.
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Posted: 15 November 2007 03:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]   

   
 
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O.K., this will probably make me a board pariah, but I don't care.
 
<EMBARRASSING CONFESSION>Growing up, I was a huge Osmonds fan. I thought they were so great. I was maybe 6 or 7 when they started getting really huge and I just loved their stuff. I loved the Jackson 5 too. I think it had to do with the fact that they had little kid singers and I was a little kid myself. Plus, they both had cartoons on Saturday mornings, always a plus for me. I didn't even know the Osmonds were Mormon until years later. I watched Donny & Marie every weekend. I loved their 'concept album' about the plan of salvation called, The Plan.
 
When I was in Utah, I was surprised at how many mormons absolutely hated the Osmonds. I suppose they threw their weight around a bit in Utah county and exhausted a lot of good will there or something, but I never found anyone who would admit to ever liking them. 
 
I worked at a radio station in Provo. During the week, we played oldies, but on Sundays we had 12 hours of religious music and programs called "The Sounds of Sunday." I was the host of that and often interviewed LDS celebrities. I had both Alan and Merrill on my show. Alan was on twice. The first time he was promoting his sons, The Osmond Boys. He was trying to ride the New Kids on Block coattails,  much as the original Osmonds rode the Jacksons. Another time, he was promoting his fireworks spectacular, but I had specifically invited him on to talk about the album, The Plan. Donny refused to do my show (it was during his brief comeback when he released, Soldier of Love) because he didn't want to be associated with an LDS-themed show. Ah, the memories.
 
My final humiliating admission is that I actually have the song, Crazy Horses, on my  iPod.   </EMBARRASSING CONFESSION>
  


   


Posted: 15 November 2007 03:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]   

   
 
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Zim:
O.K., this will probably make me a board pariah, but I don't care.
 
<EMBARRASSING CONFESSION>Growing up, I was a huge Osmonds fan. I thought they were so great. I was maybe 6 or 7 when they started getting really huge and I just loved their stuff. I loved the Jackson 5 too. I think it had to do with the fact that they had little kid singers and I was a little kid myself. Plus, they both had cartoons on Saturday mornings, always a plus for me. I didn't even know the Osmonds were Mormon until years later. I watched Donny & Marie every weekend. I loved their 'concept album' about the plan of salvation called, The Plan.
 
When I was in Utah, I was surprised at how many mormons absolutely hated the Osmonds. I suppose they threw their weight around a bit in Utah county and exhausted a lot of good will there or something, but I never found anyone who would admit to ever liking them. 
 
I worked at a radio station in Provo. During the week, we played oldies, but on Sundays we had 12 hours of religious music and programs called "The Sounds of Sunday." I was the host of that and often interviewed LDS celebrities. I had both Alan and Merrill on my show. Alan was on twice. The first time he was promoting his sons, The Osmond Boys. He was trying to ride the New Kids on Block coattails,  much as the original Osmonds rode the Jacksons. Another time, he was promoting his fireworks spectacular, but I had specifically invited him on to talk about the album, The Plan. Donny refused to do my show (it was during his brief comeback when he released, Soldier of Love) because he didn't want to be associated with an LDS-themed show. Ah, the memories.
 
My final humiliating admission is that I actually have the song, Crazy Horses, on my  iPod.   </EMBARRASSING CONFESSION>
  
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The Pirate knew them when...I was in their ward in SoCal before fame and fortune smiled on them.
 
They got rich and famous, I dropped out of the church and now I'm a Pirate...
 
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Posted: 15 November 2007 05:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]   

   
 
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My brother always said that Marie looks like the girl the Osmonds Bros are told NOT to date. tongue wink
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Posted: 15 November 2007 07:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]   

   
 
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I was just complaining about this last night to my roomie. If I turn on the television and hear an ET commercial that says, "You saw him on Oprah, now he speaks with us!" I will seriously throw up all over my new shoes.
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Posted: 15 November 2007 08:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]   

   
 
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Zim:
O.K., this will probably make me a board pariah, but I don't care.
 
<EMBARRASSING CONFESSION>Growing up, I was a huge Osmonds fan. I thought they were so great. I was maybe 6 or 7 when they started getting really huge and I just loved their stuff. I loved the Jackson 5 too. I think it had to do with the fact that they had little kid singers and I was a little kid myself. Plus, they both had cartoons on Saturday mornings, always a plus for me. I didn't even know the Osmonds were Mormon until years later. I watched Donny & Marie every weekend. I loved their 'concept album' about the plan of salvation called, The Plan.
 
When I was in Utah, I was surprised at how many mormons absolutely hated the Osmonds. I suppose they threw their weight around a bit in Utah county and exhausted a lot of good will there or something, but I never found anyone who would admit to ever liking them. 
 
I worked at a radio station in Provo. During the week, we played oldies, but on Sundays we had 12 hours of religious music and programs called "The Sounds of Sunday." I was the host of that and often interviewed LDS celebrities. I had both Alan and Merrill on my show. Alan was on twice. The first time he was promoting his sons, The Osmond Boys. He was trying to ride the New Kids on Block coattails,  much as the original Osmonds rode the Jacksons. Another time, he was promoting his fireworks spectacular, but I had specifically invited him on to talk about the album, The Plan. Donny refused to do my show (it was during his brief comeback when he released, Soldier of Love) because he didn't want to be associated with an LDS-themed show. Ah, the memories.
 
My final humiliating admission is that I actually have the song, Crazy Horses, on my  iPod.   </EMBARRASSING CONFESSION>
  
Maybe you need to find a new board to hang out on, Zim. 
 
When I was a kid, the only thing I knew about the Osmonds was that Marie was a famous Mormon and that my testimony was threatened when she appeared on some made-for-TV movie where she had a kissing scene and actually KISSED the guy on the LIPS. It was really hard on my little mind to comprehend that she could do such an ungodly thing -- (kissing on the lips was for after marriage), being MORMON and all, on NATIONAL TV....good Mormons didn't sacrifice their standards for anything, right?

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Does anyone remember, several years ago, one of Marie's little Mo sons sang "All my Ex's Live in Texas" on TV, and the shitstorm that followed?  Hilarious!  I didn't find the song choice as disturbing as I did the little guy's complete lack of singing ability (you know, what with being an Osmond and all.)
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Posted: 15 November 2007 10:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]   

   
 
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I am sick of them too. Donny has confessed to getting overly depressed when the spotlight isn't on him. He lives for fame.
 
On a side note, he and his family went to the ward I grew up in while he did the dream coat play here in Michigan.
 
We've also had Shawn Bradley show up to ward once too.
 
We had a private pilot in our ward which is how we got many mormon celebs to our little po dunk ward, LOL
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We don't get much of them here. Only they showed Marie fainting over and over for one day--some dancing show she is on. I am just glad she fell down like a "lady." That could have been bad, if you know what I mean! 

   


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Zim:
O.K., this will probably make me a board pariah, but I don't care.
 
<EMBARRASSING CONFESSION>
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Aw, that's OK, Zim.  You're among friends. 
 
But guess who's not getting my vote to choose the music for the next Post-Mo party. 
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Aw, that's OK, Zim.  You're among friends. 
 
But guess who's not getting my vote to choose the music for the next Post-Mo party. 
Oh man!
 
I swear that's not the extent of my taste! I file it under guilty pleasures or something like that. Don't we all have those? O.K., maybe not this bad, but still ...
 


   


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Zim:
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Aw, that's OK, Zim.  You're among friends. 
 
But guess who's not getting my vote to choose the music for the next Post-Mo party. 
Oh man!
 
I swear that's not the extent of my taste! I file it under guilty pleasures or something like that. Don't we all have those? O.K., maybe not this bad, but still ...
 
When you're a mormon every pleasure is a guilty one!
 
OK, I'll admit, I do have some.
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Zim, sh..sh..sh..I have a Donny Osmond Album tucked away at home. Santa gave it to me many moons ago.. tongue wink
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Hahaha!  Y'all are slaying me.  As I heard on Oprah when 100 Osmonds were there, they are having an upcoming concert for the first time in so many years, which explains the publicity of late.  Who would have thought they were having such a hard time selling tickets to that?  *snicker*
 
Zim, don't feel badly--I used to have a Donny Osmond poster in my bedroom as a pre-pubescent girl and got The Plan album one Christmas from a Mormon friend.   Now I may watch them on Oprah (and I enjoyed that except for Marie's testimony, it brought back some good memories for me) but I am not following them around t.v.  One show is enough for me!  


   


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Don't feel bad, Zim! I used to like that song "YoYo" ... maybe we could team up and do a punk rock version.

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