AtheistNexus.org article on sex being "unnatural" reposted in bold and italicized print

Sex is Unnatural, Apparently
Posted by Winston Jen on September 17, 2015 at 6:10pm in Water Cooler
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I never thought I'd read something like this, especially since religious extremists typically extol the "virtues" of breeding like rabbits, as though having children is somehow the zenith of one's contributions to society. Now, I don't know Leonore's religious leanings, but the dearth of scientific understanding, especially from a psychologist, is incredulously astounding.

I initially found the link on Bioedge, which is essentially MercatorNet's purely medical section (although there are frequently bioethics issues and ignorance of trans issues and the origins of homosexuality/bisexualty on MercatorNet itself).

http://www.bioedge.org/pointedremarks/view/v-is-for-victory-for-pin...

One of the most trenchant critics of the medicalization of women's sexual issues is Leonore Tiefer, a psychologist at New York University School of Medicine. She suspects that demand for the drug has been manufactured:
 "People fed a myth that sex is 'natural'—that is, a matter of automatic and unlearned biological function—at the same time as they expect high levels of performance and enduring pleasure, are likely to look for simple solutions. This sets the stage for disease mongering, a process that encourages the conversion of socially created anxie

One of the most trenchant critics of the medicalization of women's sexual issues is Leonore Tiefer, a psychologist at New York University School of Medicine. She suspects that demand for the drug has been manufactured:
"People fed a myth that sex is 'natural'—that is, a matter of automatic and unlearned biological function—at the same time as they expect high levels of performance and enduring pleasure, are likely to look for simple solutions. This sets the stage for disease mongering, a process that encourages the conversion of socially created anxie
Edit: Sorry. I didn't mean to paste the quote so many times. The text didn't show up on Mozilla, so I thought there was a bug.
Tags: MercatorNet, health, leonore, pink, sex, sexuality, viagra



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 Permalink Reply by Gerald Payne on Thursday

Everything human beings do after puberty is sexually orientated. From dress preference to dancing to smiling, all involve a subconscious appeal to attraction. If it's unnatural then so is breathing.
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 Permalink Reply by Freethinker31 on Thursday

It is true unprotected sex may cause serious ailments, usually when there are multiple partners.....However , sex ,in itself, is quite normal, and comes  naturally.....Today, sex is more often for pleasure than for reproduction......Those who breed like rabbits, such as the "Duggars," are the exception.....With contraception, one can enjoy sex without having the worry of an unwanted  pregnancy......The Church does not approve of such practice however, oh well, their loss.......Because of recreational sex,it is imperative to protect yourself, and is why sex education in schools is so important.....Today's teens, with their raging hormones, need to know all there is on the subject, because they Will be promiscuous......Better safe than sorry.....Don't forget prostitution is the oldest activity, proving that mankind enjoys sex and willing to pay for it .......Bottom line.....SEX is very natural and will be with us forever.....:-)
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 Permalink Reply by Gerald Payne on Friday

These things are the age old problem of the church trying to impose an unnatural ideological asceticism on a natural species of human beings.
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 Permalink Reply by jay H on Friday

It seems she is saying that we have been fed too high expectations for sex. Reproductive sex is pretty mundane, all animals do it.

Even the pink pill is driven more by ideology than by science.

http://www.science20.com/pfired_but_still_kicking/fda_stiffs_go_sof...
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 Permalink Reply by Daniel W on Friday
I think sex must be natural. all plants other than some ferns and a few other species have sexually reproduced for hundreds of millions of years. All animals, reptlies, birds, mammals, fish, amphibians, crocodilians, have had sex for hundreds of millions of years. Im not sure about sponges or corals. Once in a while I read about a parthenogenic snake or lizard, but they are exceptions.
 I bet even christians have sex.
 On the other hand, Anericans are too focused on sex. They think everyone needs to be young and sexually alluring and have a vigorous libido until they are 97 years old. Sex drive does taper off. That csn be a good thing. People should get used to it.
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 Permalink Reply by Michael Penn on Saturday

I think what the original poster means by sex being "unnatural" is that it has to be learned. There is no pill or right time in life that suddenly you become sexually active and you know everything and are also such a great sexual pleaser. Pills of any kind do not make male or female a master of sex. The very idea leads to promiscuity which could open you up for diseases. Once a person with newfound sexuality learns that there are no whistles and bells and perfect technique they are able to make the best of what they have and can please themselves and their partner. This is then because of sexual maturity.
A now rather outdated book on sex in my time was "Sexology." I say outdated because it may not be as important today. In the 1960's a lady friend of mine loaned me the book (published monthly) so I could learn about sex and the human body. This book literally taught sex education when nobody else in my area did - in a classroom or otherwise. Unfortunately my step father burned a couple of copies on me because he found them and said my friend was "teaching me pornography." The publication was graphic, yes, but there is nothing pornographic about it.
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 Permalink Reply by Winston Jen on Saturday

I don't think it has to be taught, Michael. Children can teach themselves to read, write, solve puzzles, learn math etc. and if left alone, yes, they will learn to masturbate from a very young age. It's how we're wired, and there's nothing wrong with it.

http://www.med.umich.edu/yourchild/topics/masturb.htm
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 Permalink Reply by Michael Penn on Saturday

I said "learned" rather than "taught." Sex is a learned process through many means. I had originally said that Sexology "taught sex education" but the truth is that sex is learned. The publication was just one of many ways to learn. If you learn by playing with yourself the book might help with that also. The magazine was there to prevent sexual ignorance.
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 Permalink Reply by Winston Jen on Saturday

It's good that a book is there to fill in the gaps, but even if it wasn't there, chlidren would learn how to have sex without the need for external input.
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 Permalink Reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Saturday

Gerald, Freethinker31, jay H, Daniel W, and Michael. I agree with you all. What a rare happenstance. :)
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