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JW's keep silent
Posted by Patricia on March 19, 2015 at 2:10pm in Ethics & Morals
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The Horrifying Ways Jehovah Witnesses Keep Child Abuse Victims Silent
My congregation's elders knew that there was a predator in our midst. But if you spoke out, you faced punishment.






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 Permalink Reply by Bertold Brautigan yesterday

So the witnesses don't like witnesses.
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 Permalink Reply by Patricia yesterday

Or their kids......
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 Permalink Reply by sk8eycat yesterday

The late Judith Hayes ("The Happy Heretic") has a chapter in her second book about a former friend who was a JW, and a divorced mother of two children.  When the older child, a boy, was about 10, he decided he didn't want to go to all those meetings anymore, and he was shunned  The JW mother couldn't afford a baby-sitter, so she made him stay alone in the car while she went to "buybull study".....AT NIGHT!
The boy told his father, and the mother eventually lost custody of him...forever.

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 Permalink Reply by Patricia yesterday

Just wonderful......*sarcasm*

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 Permalink Reply by Loren Miller yesterday

If the JWs ever showed up around here again, this might be something that could find its way into the conversation.  That doesn't even enter into the issue of their being an insular and for what I can see remarkably JOYLESS community.  They would want me to join THAT?
Not on my worst day.
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 Permalink Reply by sk8eycat 23 hours ago

That's why I don't discuss religion with my sister who co-owns this house with me.  She has Asperger's syndrome, and the JWs are the only people outside of the family who ever paid any attention to her after high school.  She rarely goes to meetings anymore, so they've started coming by again every couple of weeks.  I just stay in my room till they leave and keep my mouth shut.
I'm not sure that my sister believes any of that crap anymore (she loved Neil DeGrasse Tyson's version of "Cosmos," and other science stuff), but she has NO other friends, and hasn't for the last 50 years.
She knows I'm an atheist, and gets huffy when I insult the Morons who also invade our property....I dunno.  I sometimes wonder how many True Believers really suffer from some form of autism....
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 Permalink Reply by Plinius 17 hours ago

The more I understand, the oftener I see autism.
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 Permalink Reply by Loren Miller 12 hours ago

I don't know as I see autism so much as I see a desperate desire to believe that SOMETHING happens at the end to frustrate death.  I've thrown this quote out a few times on A|N but what the heck:
Man is so built that he cannot imagine his own death. This leads to endless invention of religions.
 -- Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
The thought of losing oneself in an eternity of unconsciousness frightens a lot of people ... who apparently can't even recognize that they won't be conscious of their own LACK of consciousness!  And with that, as Heinlein said, have come belief systems by the thousands, all aimed at trying to salve their fear.  Sadly, such developments also tend to get usurped by the unscrupulous, who will gladly play such people for every dime they have.
I don't like that I will end one day.  I also don't like that it sometimes rains when I want to get out on the bike, but I'm a grownup and can wait for the next sunny day.  By the same token, I can live my life and enjoy it and try to make the most of the time I have.
Facing death means being a grownup.  I suspect most of them haven't ... grown up, that is.
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 Permalink Reply by Dyslexic's DOG 13 hours ago

The JWs don't value families, or as we call them here, Obituary Vultures, because they turn up on people's doorsteps as soon as a parent or child in their family dies, as they must read the obituaries, and try to get people at their weakest moments.  They prey (like vultures) on Alcoholic Anonymous meetings, which is where the husband of a friend was drawn into their talons.
So some simply call them the Unholy Vultures.
A month after her husband joined the vultures, they started demanding that she also becomes a member, when she refused, they told him to leave her and their two children to become a sycophant to the megalomaniac Jehovah.
So he left them and ran off with the vultures.
Hers is not the only family near me to have been split apart by these turds.
They continually break up families, if a spouse or child does not believe, they are out, no consideration for the family exists in the unholy vulture's doctrines.
Though their sex maniac originator, Joseph Smith, spent most of his time breaking up families by seducing other men's wives.
So the lack of family ethics continues.


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 Permalink Reply by Grinning Cat 8 hours ago


Though their sex maniac originator, Joseph Smith, spent most of his time breaking up families by seducing other men's wives.
Um, wasn't that Mormonism?
Still, JWs tearing apart families like that demonstrates an astounding lack of ethics!
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 Permalink Reply by sk8eycat 7 hours ago

I solved that problem when Dad died in 1985...no funeral, and no obit, at HIS request.  I telephoned his friends and clients, and left it at that.  Did the same when Mom died, and have left instructions for my own cessation of existence.  Nobody, except family and close friends (and the ever-watchful gov't), needs to know when someone dies.  Obituaries and funeral announcements in the newspapers are just ego-boo for the survivors.....
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JW's keep silent
Posted by Patricia on March 19, 2015 at 2:10pm in Ethics & Morals
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The Horrifying Ways Jehovah Witnesses Keep Child Abuse Victims Silent
My congregation's elders knew that there was a predator in our midst. But if you spoke out, you faced punishment.






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 Permalink Reply by Bertold Brautigan yesterday

So the witnesses don't like witnesses.
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 Permalink Reply by Patricia yesterday

Or their kids......
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 Permalink Reply by sk8eycat yesterday

The late Judith Hayes ("The Happy Heretic") has a chapter in her second book about a former friend who was a JW, and a divorced mother of two children.  When the older child, a boy, was about 10, he decided he didn't want to go to all those meetings anymore, and he was shunned  The JW mother couldn't afford a baby-sitter, so she made him stay alone in the car while she went to "buybull study".....AT NIGHT!
The boy told his father, and the mother eventually lost custody of him...forever.

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 Permalink Reply by Patricia yesterday

Just wonderful......*sarcasm*

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 Permalink Reply by Loren Miller yesterday

If the JWs ever showed up around here again, this might be something that could find its way into the conversation.  That doesn't even enter into the issue of their being an insular and for what I can see remarkably JOYLESS community.  They would want me to join THAT?
Not on my worst day.
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 Permalink Reply by sk8eycat 23 hours ago

That's why I don't discuss religion with my sister who co-owns this house with me.  She has Asperger's syndrome, and the JWs are the only people outside of the family who ever paid any attention to her after high school.  She rarely goes to meetings anymore, so they've started coming by again every couple of weeks.  I just stay in my room till they leave and keep my mouth shut.
I'm not sure that my sister believes any of that crap anymore (she loved Neil DeGrasse Tyson's version of "Cosmos," and other science stuff), but she has NO other friends, and hasn't for the last 50 years.
She knows I'm an atheist, and gets huffy when I insult the Morons who also invade our property....I dunno.  I sometimes wonder how many True Believers really suffer from some form of autism....
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 Permalink Reply by Plinius 17 hours ago

The more I understand, the oftener I see autism.
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 Permalink Reply by Loren Miller 12 hours ago

I don't know as I see autism so much as I see a desperate desire to believe that SOMETHING happens at the end to frustrate death.  I've thrown this quote out a few times on A|N but what the heck:
Man is so built that he cannot imagine his own death. This leads to endless invention of religions.
 -- Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
The thought of losing oneself in an eternity of unconsciousness frightens a lot of people ... who apparently can't even recognize that they won't be conscious of their own LACK of consciousness!  And with that, as Heinlein said, have come belief systems by the thousands, all aimed at trying to salve their fear.  Sadly, such developments also tend to get usurped by the unscrupulous, who will gladly play such people for every dime they have.
I don't like that I will end one day.  I also don't like that it sometimes rains when I want to get out on the bike, but I'm a grownup and can wait for the next sunny day.  By the same token, I can live my life and enjoy it and try to make the most of the time I have.
Facing death means being a grownup.  I suspect most of them haven't ... grown up, that is.
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 Permalink Reply by Dyslexic's DOG 13 hours ago

The JWs don't value families, or as we call them here, Obituary Vultures, because they turn up on people's doorsteps as soon as a parent or child in their family dies, as they must read the obituaries, and try to get people at their weakest moments.  They prey (like vultures) on Alcoholic Anonymous meetings, which is where the husband of a friend was drawn into their talons.
So some simply call them the Unholy Vultures.
A month after her husband joined the vultures, they started demanding that she also becomes a member, when she refused, they told him to leave her and their two children to become a sycophant to the megalomaniac Jehovah.
So he left them and ran off with the vultures.
Hers is not the only family near me to have been split apart by these turds.
They continually break up families, if a spouse or child does not believe, they are out, no consideration for the family exists in the unholy vulture's doctrines.
Though their sex maniac originator, Joseph Smith, spent most of his time breaking up families by seducing other men's wives.
So the lack of family ethics continues.


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 Permalink Reply by Grinning Cat 8 hours ago


Though their sex maniac originator, Joseph Smith, spent most of his time breaking up families by seducing other men's wives.
Um, wasn't that Mormonism?
Still, JWs tearing apart families like that demonstrates an astounding lack of ethics!
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 Permalink Reply by sk8eycat 7 hours ago

I solved that problem when Dad died in 1985...no funeral, and no obit, at HIS request.  I telephoned his friends and clients, and left it at that.  Did the same when Mom died, and have left instructions for my own cessation of existence.  Nobody, except family and close friends (and the ever-watchful gov't), needs to know when someone dies.  Obituaries and funeral announcements in the newspapers are just ego-boo for the survivors.....
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