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Death squad leader Eugene de Kock granted parole - video
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Republicans need to learn that Muslim and American are not mutually exclusive | Linda Sarsour
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Doreen Lawrence to speak at conference on police spying, corruption and racism
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South African death squad leader Eugene de Kock to be freed from jail
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Cumberbatch and the language of difference | Letters
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'We had no idea we'd be talking about it this long': Friendship Nine on 1961 sit-in
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Timberland cuts ties with APC after its founder, Jean Touitou, uses the N-word
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Dave Whelan’s FA diversity course is specially tailored to Wigan owner
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David Oyelowo: Benedict Cumberbatch coloured-gate 'silly' and 'ridiculous'
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Arkansas votes to retain joint holiday for Robert E Lee and Martin Luther King
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 20, 2015 at 9:34am
I need to see that movie.  I need something positive and uplifting.  I need some hope, some reminder,  that somewhere, some people do the right thing, not whining about what words to use for political correctness, not buried in narcissistic Randian excuses for avarice, not disingenuous and mendacious, but just doing what is good and right and caring.  Such people do exist, and have existed.  They are, in the minds of many, flawed.  They may have had affairs, had their moments when they lied, or stole, or had outbursts of temper.  But if, in the end, they showed strength of character, and empathy, and courage, and stood up for others, that's what mattered.

I really need to see some of that.
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 20, 2015 at 9:15am
Charles Pierce has a thoughtful review of the film Selma titled The Ownership Of History: Selma And The Way We Look At America
His conclusion:
So we hear that the triumphs of the Civil Rights Movement, which were aided within the government by a Democratic president and the kind of Republicans who don't exist any more, are somehow cheapened and lessened by what, say, Robert Byrd and Hugo Black did in their 30's, and nobody notices that there no longer is a constituency within the Republican party for extending the franchise. The Civil Rights Movement, orphaned by popular culture and misused in memory by people who are not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath with the people depicted in Ava DuVernay's film, was an American war that culminated in an American victory, no more or less decisive than what was negotiated on the decks of the USS Missouri. It belongs to the country, which turns its back on that victory to its everlasting shame.
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 14, 2015 at 8:58pm
The 5 worst USA states for black people, according to The Root.   I'm kind of surprised Missouri was not one of them.  Only 1 is in the South.  Which says something too.
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:16am
FromDailyKos, Remembering the Rosewood Massacre.



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 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:08am
Elegant, historically incorrect portraits.  One artist's Rembrant-style portraits of black subjects.  CNN

This prompted me to think about "concerns" that the next James Bond might be Idris Elba, and disingenuous complaints that James Bond was "always written to be Scottish" - even though the only Scottish actor to play Bond, of many Bonds, was Sean Connery.

Culture.  Race.  Ethnicity.  None are engraved in stone.
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 Comment by Daniel W on November 26, 2014 at 10:15pm
Kind of a disappointment - I hoped that the younger generation was more open.  We keep reading that is the case.



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 Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 24, 2014 at 3:21pm
Actually, SB, the things that they have publicly identified as being Neanderthal have to do with the immune system, not any visible characteristics. And for me, because I already know I'm Ashkenazi Jewish, it's interesting to find out that in addition to Northern European, which I expected, there was no Eastern European (which people expect Jews to be), and there was Mediterranean and West Asian, which could include places as far-flung as North Africa, Israel (expected) and Iran, Afghanistan or Pakistan. So I'm a Heinz 57, in a way, but in a different way from what people usually expect. So what do I put down as my "race" or ethnic group in the next census? :-)
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 10:39pm
Eddie, I did watch the documentary. Thanks for the link - I enjoyed watching it. Somehow, people identify as one thing, then discover it's not nearly that clear, and then further back, everyone is connected. And, by DNA, we are 99.9% the same. So... why are people so convinced people are so different from each other?
 Natalie, that's really cool to learn that! There was a thought in my mind that my mix would be widespread, which I thought would be interesting. But it is what it is. I wonder, what traits I have that are Neanderthal? Maybe the eye color - hazel?
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 9:40pm
Eddie, you are right, the test is pricy. I did it out of curiosity. I cant say I learned a lot about my ethnicity. Or maybe I did. I will check the link you provided. It sounds interesting.
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 Comment by Eddie E. Hicks Sr. on September 23, 2014 at 2:01pm
That test is quite pricy. I'm going to give it a try one day. Seems very interesting. Did anyone see the documentary The Human Family Tree? They DNA tested a large group of New Yorkers. The results are very surprising. See link http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-family-tree/
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The Guardian / World / Race Issues
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Death squad leader Eugene de Kock granted parole - video
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Republicans need to learn that Muslim and American are not mutually exclusive | Linda Sarsour
.
Doreen Lawrence to speak at conference on police spying, corruption and racism
.
South African death squad leader Eugene de Kock to be freed from jail
.
Cumberbatch and the language of difference | Letters
.
'We had no idea we'd be talking about it this long': Friendship Nine on 1961 sit-in
.
Timberland cuts ties with APC after its founder, Jean Touitou, uses the N-word
.
Dave Whelan’s FA diversity course is specially tailored to Wigan owner
.
David Oyelowo: Benedict Cumberbatch coloured-gate 'silly' and 'ridiculous'
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Arkansas votes to retain joint holiday for Robert E Lee and Martin Luther King
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 20, 2015 at 9:34am
I need to see that movie.  I need something positive and uplifting.  I need some hope, some reminder,  that somewhere, some people do the right thing, not whining about what words to use for political correctness, not buried in narcissistic Randian excuses for avarice, not disingenuous and mendacious, but just doing what is good and right and caring.  Such people do exist, and have existed.  They are, in the minds of many, flawed.  They may have had affairs, had their moments when they lied, or stole, or had outbursts of temper.  But if, in the end, they showed strength of character, and empathy, and courage, and stood up for others, that's what mattered.

I really need to see some of that.
.
 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 20, 2015 at 9:15am
Charles Pierce has a thoughtful review of the film Selma titled The Ownership Of History: Selma And The Way We Look At America
His conclusion:
So we hear that the triumphs of the Civil Rights Movement, which were aided within the government by a Democratic president and the kind of Republicans who don't exist any more, are somehow cheapened and lessened by what, say, Robert Byrd and Hugo Black did in their 30's, and nobody notices that there no longer is a constituency within the Republican party for extending the franchise. The Civil Rights Movement, orphaned by popular culture and misused in memory by people who are not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath with the people depicted in Ava DuVernay's film, was an American war that culminated in an American victory, no more or less decisive than what was negotiated on the decks of the USS Missouri. It belongs to the country, which turns its back on that victory to its everlasting shame.
.
 Comment by Daniel W on January 14, 2015 at 8:58pm
The 5 worst USA states for black people, according to The Root.   I'm kind of surprised Missouri was not one of them.  Only 1 is in the South.  Which says something too.
.
 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:16am
FromDailyKos, Remembering the Rosewood Massacre.



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 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:08am
Elegant, historically incorrect portraits.  One artist's Rembrant-style portraits of black subjects.  CNN

This prompted me to think about "concerns" that the next James Bond might be Idris Elba, and disingenuous complaints that James Bond was "always written to be Scottish" - even though the only Scottish actor to play Bond, of many Bonds, was Sean Connery.

Culture.  Race.  Ethnicity.  None are engraved in stone.
.
 Comment by Daniel W on November 26, 2014 at 10:15pm
Kind of a disappointment - I hoped that the younger generation was more open.  We keep reading that is the case.



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 Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 24, 2014 at 3:21pm
Actually, SB, the things that they have publicly identified as being Neanderthal have to do with the immune system, not any visible characteristics. And for me, because I already know I'm Ashkenazi Jewish, it's interesting to find out that in addition to Northern European, which I expected, there was no Eastern European (which people expect Jews to be), and there was Mediterranean and West Asian, which could include places as far-flung as North Africa, Israel (expected) and Iran, Afghanistan or Pakistan. So I'm a Heinz 57, in a way, but in a different way from what people usually expect. So what do I put down as my "race" or ethnic group in the next census? :-)
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 10:39pm
Eddie, I did watch the documentary. Thanks for the link - I enjoyed watching it. Somehow, people identify as one thing, then discover it's not nearly that clear, and then further back, everyone is connected. And, by DNA, we are 99.9% the same. So... why are people so convinced people are so different from each other?
 Natalie, that's really cool to learn that! There was a thought in my mind that my mix would be widespread, which I thought would be interesting. But it is what it is. I wonder, what traits I have that are Neanderthal? Maybe the eye color - hazel?
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 9:40pm
Eddie, you are right, the test is pricy. I did it out of curiosity. I cant say I learned a lot about my ethnicity. Or maybe I did. I will check the link you provided. It sounds interesting.
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 Comment by Eddie E. Hicks Sr. on September 23, 2014 at 2:01pm
That test is quite pricy. I'm going to give it a try one day. Seems very interesting. Did anyone see the documentary The Human Family Tree? They DNA tested a large group of New Yorkers. The results are very surprising. See link http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-family-tree/
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