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 Comment by sk8eycat 8 hours ago
PURR-fect!
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 Comment by Grinning Cat 8 hours ago

Related: new research shows that transgender children as young as 5 years old are nearly indistinguishable on psychological gender-association tests from cisgender children of the same gender identity.
The study, Gender Cognition in Transgender Children, from the University of Washington, says, "Our results support the notion that transgender children are not confused, delayed, showing gender-atypical responding, pretending, or oppositional"; "transgender children do indeed exist and that this identity is a deeply held one."
The tests included an Implicit Association Test, which measures responses that are faster by milliseconds when concepts are unconsciously paired together.
Lead author Kristina Olsen was expecting to find a difference "between the degree to which a transgender girl associated herself with girls — compared to cisgender girls — simply because, for part of that transgender girl’s life, other people called her a boy." "I had this wrong interpretation that it was a switch. But for them, that is who they are and have [always] been."
http://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/transgender-kids-are-not-conf...
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 Comment by Grinning Cat 8 hours ago
IF YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC WASHROOM AND YOU THINK A STRANGER'S GENDER DOESN'T MATCH THE SIGN ON THE DOOR, FOLLOW THESE STEPS: 1.) DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, THEY KNOW THEMSELVES BETTER THAN YOU DO.(from lesbot at tumblr)
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on Wednesday
What an existential dilemma - having to vote for either a non-white person or a non-male. What to do . . . .
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 Comment by sk8eycat on Wednesday
Wouldn't it be fun if Carson did get the nomination?  Dough-Boy Rove wouldn't work with him, and the rednecks wouldn't vote for him.
(Although there are still a lot of elderly African Americans who still vote Rethuglican because it used to be "The Party of Lincoln."  I used to work for one...she also thought OJ Simpson was innocent...we had some yelling matches during that farce of a first trial.)


Mabel was a REGULAR on that TV show, but was always billed as "Guest Star."  She worked (coaching) till she was in her 80s...but still remembered every rebuff and insult anyone tossed in her direction....I can't really blame her.
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on Wednesday

Likely presidential candidate [if by "likely presidential candidate" you mean the likely candidate whose only qualification is he's black and Republican] Ben Carson tells Iowa radio host that Congress should remove federal judges who support marriage equality.
Federal judges had better make sure that their future rulings don’t conflict with the policy preferences of a President Ben Carson. Otherwise, despite a lifetime appointment, they might quickly find themselves out of a job.

During an interview last week with conservative Iowa radio host Steve Deace, Carson, who is considering running for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016, discussed the wave of recent rulings by federal courts striking down same-sex marriage bans. He argued that statewide ballot initiative results should be the final word, saying it was “unconstitutional” that judges have ruled in favor of equality despite these votes.

Carson continued that, when federal judges make rulings like this, “our Congress actually has the right to reprimand or remove them.”
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on Wednesday
Religious-run schools and hospitals in Ireland will not be allowed to fire employees for being gay, divorced, or unmarried parents, according to Equality Minister Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, who expects the law to be changed this spring.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/schools-and-hospitals-to-lose-...
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on Tuesday
Catching up... on the Denver bakery asked to put homophobic messages on a bible-shaped cake, they never refused the potential customer the cake. Just as Daniel suggested, "the baker could do everything but the actual text."
“He wanted us to write God hates …” she trails. “Just really radical stuff against gays.”
“He wouldn’t allow me to make a copy of the message, but it was really hateful,” Marjorie adds. “I remember the words detestable, disgrace, homosexuality, and sinners.”
However uncomfortable the request made the pair, both maintain that he was never refused service.
“I told him that I would bake the cake in the shape of a Bible,” says Marjorie. “Then I told him I’d sell him a [decorating] bag with the right tip and the right icing so he could write those things himself.”
"Pro-LGBT Colorado baker slapped with religious discrimination complaint", Out Front, Jan. 14 http://outfrontonline.com/news/pro-lgbt-baker-slapped-religious-dis...


One commenter there suggested that they post a sign in their store: "Inscriptions that are deemed offensive or are deemed hate speech will be surcharged 100% with the appropriate charge being donated an offended charity."

Another commenter: "I was just in the bakery today and two local news crews were filming reports. Google the story and it has gone international. They’re getting a tidal wave of support, and in this normally slow season business has picked up remarkably. Marjorie said many Christians have called and emailed their support. The religious nut seeking to harass Azucar has actually given them a boost in business."
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 Comment by Daniel W on Tuesday
Sorry to hear of the loss.
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 Comment by sk8eycat on Monday
I just got an email from another ex-skater...Canadian medalist and innovator (and painter). Toller Cranston died yesterday of an apparent heart attack.  Damn.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/legendary-canadia...
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 Comment by sk8eycat 8 hours ago
PURR-fect!
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 Comment by Grinning Cat 8 hours ago

Related: new research shows that transgender children as young as 5 years old are nearly indistinguishable on psychological gender-association tests from cisgender children of the same gender identity.
The study, Gender Cognition in Transgender Children, from the University of Washington, says, "Our results support the notion that transgender children are not confused, delayed, showing gender-atypical responding, pretending, or oppositional"; "transgender children do indeed exist and that this identity is a deeply held one."
The tests included an Implicit Association Test, which measures responses that are faster by milliseconds when concepts are unconsciously paired together.
Lead author Kristina Olsen was expecting to find a difference "between the degree to which a transgender girl associated herself with girls — compared to cisgender girls — simply because, for part of that transgender girl’s life, other people called her a boy." "I had this wrong interpretation that it was a switch. But for them, that is who they are and have [always] been."
http://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/transgender-kids-are-not-conf...
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 Comment by Grinning Cat 8 hours ago
IF YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC WASHROOM AND YOU THINK A STRANGER'S GENDER DOESN'T MATCH THE SIGN ON THE DOOR, FOLLOW THESE STEPS: 1.) DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, THEY KNOW THEMSELVES BETTER THAN YOU DO.(from lesbot at tumblr)
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on Wednesday
What an existential dilemma - having to vote for either a non-white person or a non-male. What to do . . . .
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 Comment by sk8eycat on Wednesday
Wouldn't it be fun if Carson did get the nomination?  Dough-Boy Rove wouldn't work with him, and the rednecks wouldn't vote for him.
(Although there are still a lot of elderly African Americans who still vote Rethuglican because it used to be "The Party of Lincoln."  I used to work for one...she also thought OJ Simpson was innocent...we had some yelling matches during that farce of a first trial.)


Mabel was a REGULAR on that TV show, but was always billed as "Guest Star."  She worked (coaching) till she was in her 80s...but still remembered every rebuff and insult anyone tossed in her direction....I can't really blame her.
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on Wednesday

Likely presidential candidate [if by "likely presidential candidate" you mean the likely candidate whose only qualification is he's black and Republican] Ben Carson tells Iowa radio host that Congress should remove federal judges who support marriage equality.
Federal judges had better make sure that their future rulings don’t conflict with the policy preferences of a President Ben Carson. Otherwise, despite a lifetime appointment, they might quickly find themselves out of a job.

During an interview last week with conservative Iowa radio host Steve Deace, Carson, who is considering running for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016, discussed the wave of recent rulings by federal courts striking down same-sex marriage bans. He argued that statewide ballot initiative results should be the final word, saying it was “unconstitutional” that judges have ruled in favor of equality despite these votes.

Carson continued that, when federal judges make rulings like this, “our Congress actually has the right to reprimand or remove them.”
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on Wednesday
Religious-run schools and hospitals in Ireland will not be allowed to fire employees for being gay, divorced, or unmarried parents, according to Equality Minister Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, who expects the law to be changed this spring.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/schools-and-hospitals-to-lose-...
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on Tuesday
Catching up... on the Denver bakery asked to put homophobic messages on a bible-shaped cake, they never refused the potential customer the cake. Just as Daniel suggested, "the baker could do everything but the actual text."
“He wanted us to write God hates …” she trails. “Just really radical stuff against gays.”
“He wouldn’t allow me to make a copy of the message, but it was really hateful,” Marjorie adds. “I remember the words detestable, disgrace, homosexuality, and sinners.”
However uncomfortable the request made the pair, both maintain that he was never refused service.
“I told him that I would bake the cake in the shape of a Bible,” says Marjorie. “Then I told him I’d sell him a [decorating] bag with the right tip and the right icing so he could write those things himself.”
"Pro-LGBT Colorado baker slapped with religious discrimination complaint", Out Front, Jan. 14 http://outfrontonline.com/news/pro-lgbt-baker-slapped-religious-dis...


One commenter there suggested that they post a sign in their store: "Inscriptions that are deemed offensive or are deemed hate speech will be surcharged 100% with the appropriate charge being donated an offended charity."

Another commenter: "I was just in the bakery today and two local news crews were filming reports. Google the story and it has gone international. They’re getting a tidal wave of support, and in this normally slow season business has picked up remarkably. Marjorie said many Christians have called and emailed their support. The religious nut seeking to harass Azucar has actually given them a boost in business."
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 Comment by Daniel W on Tuesday
Sorry to hear of the loss.
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 Comment by sk8eycat on Monday
I just got an email from another ex-skater...Canadian medalist and innovator (and painter). Toller Cranston died yesterday of an apparent heart attack.  Damn.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/legendary-canadia...
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 20, 2015 at 9:34am
I need to see that movie.  I need something positive and uplifting.  I need some hope, some reminder,  that somewhere, some people do the right thing, not whining about what words to use for political correctness, not buried in narcissistic Randian excuses for avarice, not disingenuous and mendacious, but just doing what is good and right and caring.  Such people do exist, and have existed.  They are, in the minds of many, flawed.  They may have had affairs, had their moments when they lied, or stole, or had outbursts of temper.  But if, in the end, they showed strength of character, and empathy, and courage, and stood up for others, that's what mattered.

I really need to see some of that.
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 20, 2015 at 9:15am
Charles Pierce has a thoughtful review of the film Selma titled The Ownership Of History: Selma And The Way We Look At America
His conclusion:
So we hear that the triumphs of the Civil Rights Movement, which were aided within the government by a Democratic president and the kind of Republicans who don't exist any more, are somehow cheapened and lessened by what, say, Robert Byrd and Hugo Black did in their 30's, and nobody notices that there no longer is a constituency within the Republican party for extending the franchise. The Civil Rights Movement, orphaned by popular culture and misused in memory by people who are not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath with the people depicted in Ava DuVernay's film, was an American war that culminated in an American victory, no more or less decisive than what was negotiated on the decks of the USS Missouri. It belongs to the country, which turns its back on that victory to its everlasting shame.
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 14, 2015 at 8:58pm
The 5 worst USA states for black people, according to The Root.   I'm kind of surprised Missouri was not one of them.  Only 1 is in the South.  Which says something too.
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:16am
FromDailyKos, Remembering the Rosewood Massacre.



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 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:08am
Elegant, historically incorrect portraits.  One artist's Rembrant-style portraits of black subjects.  CNN

This prompted me to think about "concerns" that the next James Bond might be Idris Elba, and disingenuous complaints that James Bond was "always written to be Scottish" - even though the only Scottish actor to play Bond, of many Bonds, was Sean Connery.

Culture.  Race.  Ethnicity.  None are engraved in stone.
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 Comment by Daniel W on November 26, 2014 at 10:15pm
Kind of a disappointment - I hoped that the younger generation was more open.  We keep reading that is the case.



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 Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 24, 2014 at 3:21pm
Actually, SB, the things that they have publicly identified as being Neanderthal have to do with the immune system, not any visible characteristics. And for me, because I already know I'm Ashkenazi Jewish, it's interesting to find out that in addition to Northern European, which I expected, there was no Eastern European (which people expect Jews to be), and there was Mediterranean and West Asian, which could include places as far-flung as North Africa, Israel (expected) and Iran, Afghanistan or Pakistan. So I'm a Heinz 57, in a way, but in a different way from what people usually expect. So what do I put down as my "race" or ethnic group in the next census? :-)
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 10:39pm
Eddie, I did watch the documentary. Thanks for the link - I enjoyed watching it. Somehow, people identify as one thing, then discover it's not nearly that clear, and then further back, everyone is connected. And, by DNA, we are 99.9% the same. So... why are people so convinced people are so different from each other?
 Natalie, that's really cool to learn that! There was a thought in my mind that my mix would be widespread, which I thought would be interesting. But it is what it is. I wonder, what traits I have that are Neanderthal? Maybe the eye color - hazel?
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 9:40pm
Eddie, you are right, the test is pricy. I did it out of curiosity. I cant say I learned a lot about my ethnicity. Or maybe I did. I will check the link you provided. It sounds interesting.
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 Comment by Eddie E. Hicks Sr. on September 23, 2014 at 2:01pm
That test is quite pricy. I'm going to give it a try one day. Seems very interesting. Did anyone see the documentary The Human Family Tree? They DNA tested a large group of New Yorkers. The results are very surprising. See link http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-family-tree/
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 20, 2015 at 9:34am
I need to see that movie.  I need something positive and uplifting.  I need some hope, some reminder,  that somewhere, some people do the right thing, not whining about what words to use for political correctness, not buried in narcissistic Randian excuses for avarice, not disingenuous and mendacious, but just doing what is good and right and caring.  Such people do exist, and have existed.  They are, in the minds of many, flawed.  They may have had affairs, had their moments when they lied, or stole, or had outbursts of temper.  But if, in the end, they showed strength of character, and empathy, and courage, and stood up for others, that's what mattered.

I really need to see some of that.
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 20, 2015 at 9:15am
Charles Pierce has a thoughtful review of the film Selma titled The Ownership Of History: Selma And The Way We Look At America
His conclusion:
So we hear that the triumphs of the Civil Rights Movement, which were aided within the government by a Democratic president and the kind of Republicans who don't exist any more, are somehow cheapened and lessened by what, say, Robert Byrd and Hugo Black did in their 30's, and nobody notices that there no longer is a constituency within the Republican party for extending the franchise. The Civil Rights Movement, orphaned by popular culture and misused in memory by people who are not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath with the people depicted in Ava DuVernay's film, was an American war that culminated in an American victory, no more or less decisive than what was negotiated on the decks of the USS Missouri. It belongs to the country, which turns its back on that victory to its everlasting shame.
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 14, 2015 at 8:58pm
The 5 worst USA states for black people, according to The Root.   I'm kind of surprised Missouri was not one of them.  Only 1 is in the South.  Which says something too.
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 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:16am
FromDailyKos, Remembering the Rosewood Massacre.



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 Comment by Daniel W on January 4, 2015 at 9:08am
Elegant, historically incorrect portraits.  One artist's Rembrant-style portraits of black subjects.  CNN

This prompted me to think about "concerns" that the next James Bond might be Idris Elba, and disingenuous complaints that James Bond was "always written to be Scottish" - even though the only Scottish actor to play Bond, of many Bonds, was Sean Connery.

Culture.  Race.  Ethnicity.  None are engraved in stone.
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 Comment by Daniel W on November 26, 2014 at 10:15pm
Kind of a disappointment - I hoped that the younger generation was more open.  We keep reading that is the case.



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 Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 24, 2014 at 3:21pm
Actually, SB, the things that they have publicly identified as being Neanderthal have to do with the immune system, not any visible characteristics. And for me, because I already know I'm Ashkenazi Jewish, it's interesting to find out that in addition to Northern European, which I expected, there was no Eastern European (which people expect Jews to be), and there was Mediterranean and West Asian, which could include places as far-flung as North Africa, Israel (expected) and Iran, Afghanistan or Pakistan. So I'm a Heinz 57, in a way, but in a different way from what people usually expect. So what do I put down as my "race" or ethnic group in the next census? :-)
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 10:39pm
Eddie, I did watch the documentary. Thanks for the link - I enjoyed watching it. Somehow, people identify as one thing, then discover it's not nearly that clear, and then further back, everyone is connected. And, by DNA, we are 99.9% the same. So... why are people so convinced people are so different from each other?
 Natalie, that's really cool to learn that! There was a thought in my mind that my mix would be widespread, which I thought would be interesting. But it is what it is. I wonder, what traits I have that are Neanderthal? Maybe the eye color - hazel?
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 Comment by Daniel W on September 23, 2014 at 9:40pm
Eddie, you are right, the test is pricy. I did it out of curiosity. I cant say I learned a lot about my ethnicity. Or maybe I did. I will check the link you provided. It sounds interesting.
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 Comment by Eddie E. Hicks Sr. on September 23, 2014 at 2:01pm
That test is quite pricy. I'm going to give it a try one day. Seems very interesting. Did anyone see the documentary The Human Family Tree? They DNA tested a large group of New Yorkers. The results are very surprising. See link http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-family-tree/
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