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The Bible on History Channel
Posted by Tom Reeves on March 3, 2013 at 9:11am in Water Cooler
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How many people here just can't wait to watch The Bible on History channel tonight?






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 Permalink Reply by Daniel W on March 3, 2013 at 9:29am

Tom,
If I thought the history was unbiased and described events / history / psychology / archeology / sociobiology with genuine thoughtfulness, yes.  Exit the "awe" and "mystery" and "wonder", the history of the bible should be fascinating.  How did this collection of writings, legends, fables, politics, laws, demagoguery, and sometimes actual history come to be viewed as actual "history", and "the word of a god"?  Why this collection, dominating the west and some of the east, for 2 millenia?  Why this tribe in a Mediterranian backwater?  And not the Roman pantheon, or Egyptian, or Persian, or.... ?  Where is the historical evidence, the archeology, for the kingdom of David, Solomon, their massive power and harems?  The evidence for the migration of Hebrews from Egypt?  Their enslavement in Egypt?  In Babylon?  The evidence for the Jesus of the Bible?  The evidence for and against key aspects of the Jesus myth - the census (no evidence), the existence of Nazareth, the supposed dates of key events,  the evidence for miracles of the bible?

As it is, I've seen enough of "documentaries" on the bible.  The ones I've seen always seem to accept, at the outset, the validity of biblical writings, and seek / overinterpret, have a sense of awe and wonder about the "truths", without scratching below the surface.
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 Permalink Reply by Tom Reeves on March 3, 2013 at 10:16am

Well sure, if you want to look at it logically. But what about the updated CGI effects shown in the previews of a magic man with a magic staff parting the Red Sea? Surely that will make a believer out of you! And who knows, maybe Universal Studios will develop Bibleland alongside the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. Exhibits and rides might include: Naughty Apple Munching Nudists of Eden, The Amazing Ark - infinitely bigger on the inside than the outside!, Global Flood Ride – ends with a big splash through a giant rainbow, Massacre Your First Born Island, etc. And that’s all just in Old Testmantland! Oh, I would so be a believer then!
 
Okay seriously S.B., I do agree with you. I know the History channel is a commercial enterprise, but doesn’t this kind of dramatic sensationalism belong elsewhere? Like on Cartoon Network perhaps?
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 Permalink Reply by Daniel W on March 3, 2013 at 2:30pm

I have a serious personality flaw.  Logic.  Dammit.

Tom, some churches have something like you describe for halloween.  I forget what they call it.  It describes the punishments for living a sinful life and for specific sins.  Not exactly what you describe, but not far from it.

There are also some christian theme parks that have some of that stuff.  No nudists tho, I'm sure.

I'm OK with science fiction, legends and myths.  In fact, I love reading that stuff.  Also the Aztec pantheon, the Mayan gods, the stories of Chinese dieties and Indian gods.   I grew up reading about UFOs and, while I didn't believe it, I ate it up.  Like X-files.  Maybe if they changed the name to "history channel" in quotes?
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 Permalink Reply by Jim DePaulo on March 16, 2013 at 2:45pm

The Halloween event you describe is called Hell House.  They should divide the two History channels - one with real history the other renamed the Mythic and Religion channel which would include bible BS, Ancient Aliens, Nostradamus and they could throw in Swamp People, Ice Road Truckers, Ax men and their ilk for fillers.  
Personally I have no desire to watch bible stories on the tube.  My brother, however, did watch the first part of the first offering and thought it to be the worst rehash of a story that has plagued humanity for centuries.  All the computer generated magic didn't make the BS smell any different..
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 Permalink Reply by Pat on March 3, 2013 at 11:32am

Yeah, I'd love to see it. Unfortunately, something really important came up that I have to attend to. Washing my socks.
Now, if they did a program on Silberman and Finklestein's The Bible Unearthed, I'd watch that. But, as Ethan correctly pointed out, this should fit into the category of accurate history about as much as Ancient Aliens, Sasquatch Researchers, and UFOs Revealed. Just another money making scheme to dupe the rubes!

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 Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on March 3, 2013 at 11:51am

Check me on this, but isn't this the same channel that does trips on Nostradamus and ancient aliens?  Sorry, but their credibility from where I sit lacks a little something.
Personally, I'll stick with the Discovery Channels, particularly the Science Channel.
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 Permalink Reply by Daniel W on March 3, 2013 at 2:24pm

Yup.
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 Permalink Reply by SteveInCO on March 3, 2013 at 9:29pm

History channel is also responsible for "The Universe" which is tolerable.  The narrator spouts a few bloopers (like "radiocarbon dating" for rocks, and temperatures of -500F (below absolute zero)) and the graphics are oftentimes egregiously not to scale.  Also it seems like it's "All cataclysms, all the time" when you watch the nth episode talking about disasters that did/will happen to earth.
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 Permalink Reply by A. FitzGerald on March 3, 2013 at 3:35pm

I'm surprised they don't air Big Trouble in Little China on the History Channel. It's about as historically accurate as the rest of the documentaries they produce. Plus it has Jack Burton.

But seriously, The Learning Channel and The History Channel have to be two of of the top 5 worst tv networks, and what makes them even worst is they're somehow considered educational broadcasting. 
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 Permalink Reply by Michael Penn on August 9, 2013 at 7:00am

I saw a movie once called "Big Trouble For A Little Vagina" but it wasn't on the History Channel.
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 Permalink Reply by TNT666 on August 9, 2013 at 10:14am

And your ant-female slur contributes to this discussion how?
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 Permalink Reply by AgeOfAtheists14 on March 3, 2013 at 7:02pm

pfffft.. bible? try tv itself:

well.. not sure if embed code from liveleak's been fixed so..
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=edc_1355551817
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 Permalink Reply by TNT666 on March 4, 2013 at 1:17pm

Bleh, that's all the H channel is ever about!
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 Permalink Reply by Michael Brice on March 4, 2013 at 6:29pm


when it comes to 'god' movies I prefer Clash of the Titans, much more believable.
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 Permalink Reply by Tom Reeves on March 4, 2013 at 7:00pm

Especially the original with the realistic mechanical owl!



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 Permalink Reply by Pat on March 4, 2013 at 7:41pm

As to "god" movies, check out The Man From Earth. A wonderful science fiction story about a relatively young history professor in California who turns out to be Jesus. When you start it - no interruptions - the dialogue (which is the entire movie) is really compelling.
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 Permalink Reply by Idaho Spud on March 17, 2013 at 12:22pm

The Man From Earth was an interesting movie.
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 Permalink Reply by Shillamus on March 4, 2013 at 7:46pm

Mom raised me as an atheist
but she likes going to church now
Theists like non theists.. no reason the reverse can't happen
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 Permalink Reply by Pat on March 4, 2013 at 8:26pm

"Theists like non theists." REALLY? On what planet? Here's a few quotes from the "atheist loving" theists. No convincing enough? How about a few more. Yeah, religionists really love us.
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 Permalink Reply by Tom Reeves on March 5, 2013 at 10:25am

Hey Pat,
 
The first link did not work for me (brought up a search engine but no quotes), but the second revealed some truly scary stuff!
 
Here's just one...
 

Atheists are a piece of crap. They hate God and I hate them. They are a nuisance to society. We need a Hitler who annihilates them.
 
There are, when I looked, 193 pages of this vitriol. And that, I'm sure, represents just a minor fraction of theists who happened to stumble across that website in order to vent. Yikes!
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 Permalink Reply by Pat on March 5, 2013 at 12:35pm

Tom, the site for the first one is "Fundamentalists Say the Darndest Things," or FSTDT. Try that one. If that doesn't work, here's the home page for FSTDT
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 Permalink Reply by JP Carey on March 5, 2013 at 11:17am

I liked watching the first part.  It's important we're educated on this disease that afflicts so many, and this was their BEST attempt to explain it to us.
Yes it was painfully obvious how we made the whole thing up -but to others, they do believe it to be history.
I'd like to point out that no one has seen biblical fire from the sky, spontaneous rivers of blood, or people being turned into salt licks in quite a long time... (or ever).

Maybe some believers will change their minds after watching it.
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 Permalink Reply by John Aultman on March 5, 2013 at 11:53am

When I saw it was produced by Roma Downey (Touched by an Angle series) and her husband Mark Burnett producer of Survivor, Celebrity Apprentice, The Voice, The Job, and Shark Tank I knew it would be fodder for believers only.  Apparently Downey and Burnett decided to do the series after watching Cecil B Demille's the Ten Commandments with Charlston (from my cold dead hand) Heston as Moses.  As far being historically accurate Monty Pytons's The Life of Brian is by far the winner.
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 Permalink Reply by Idaho Spud on March 17, 2013 at 12:25pm

I just became familiar with those two psychos this morning on "Sunday Morning".  It looks like they've made quite a few religious shows.  I only watched them for a short time because the irritation became too great.
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 Permalink Reply by Idaho Spud on March 17, 2013 at 1:05pm

Am I going to watch any of it?  HE double hockey-sticks NO!  Two big thumbs, 8 fingers and ten toes down on that piece of garbage.
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 Permalink Reply by Daniel W on March 18, 2013 at 9:30am

Some people think the depiction of Satan in "The Bible" looks like Obama.  DailyMail.   Accident?  Coincidence?  Making an underhanded point?
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 Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on March 18, 2013 at 9:36am

Or a combination of pareidolia and wishful thinking?
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 Permalink Reply by Jim DePaulo on March 22, 2013 at 3:27pm

I find it hard to believe it was an "accident"  I find it interesting that the devil was black since they used a Middle Eastern actor in black face for the role.
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 Permalink Reply by TNT666 on March 26, 2013 at 1:30am

Definitely not accidental. African features whether sub-Saharan or Mediterranean Africa, have long been viewed as evil compared to biblical "white folks", who are in truth Semitic. But these facial features are entirely Obama-esque other than age and weathering.
It just confirms how disgraceful and faith propagandist the H channel is, yuk.
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 Permalink Reply by Daniel W on March 22, 2013 at 10:44pm

I like this version. Language not safe for work. At least, not where I work.
 
 
And this continuation
 
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 Permalink Reply by Idaho Spud on March 23, 2013 at 10:42am

I very much like this version.
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 Permalink Reply by Daniel W on March 23, 2013 at 10:54am

He's my new favorite christian!  I almost never laugh aloud, but I did with these videos.  The amazing thing is, they really do describe the bible stories accurately.
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 Permalink Reply by Idaho Spud on March 23, 2013 at 11:09am

Yes they do.
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 Permalink Reply by Idaho Spud on March 26, 2013 at 8:51am

Just cover your body with that shame!  Seriously, they should hang their heads so low they can get a close look at their bellybuttons.
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 Permalink Reply by AgeOfAtheists14 on March 26, 2013 at 6:22pm

history gone fiction channel
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 Permalink Reply by Pat on March 26, 2013 at 6:48pm

Secular, you hit that right on the nose.
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 Permalink Reply by Christian Soldier on March 31, 2013 at 4:54pm

Well, the whole series so far has been a greatly sanitized and "spiritually correct" version of this tedious, disjointed and absurd book reputed to be the literal an unerring word of an unseen, omnipotent force that exists in the minds of people suffering mass delusion.
I love it when in the story of Lot all the males in the town (Sodom) arrive at Lot's doorstep demanding to bugger the angels he is harboring. In the Bible Lot literally offers the sexually obsessed mob his own daughter which the mob dismisses. Why was the critical event changed? Obviously it just didn't feel right with the story that Christians want to know and remember.

You can bet that in tonights episode that the producers will do their level best to out "Mel Gibson" the the epoch torture, scourging and Crusifiction. American Christianity has become more obsessed with Christ and the Passion as a death cult since the 70's and the Jesus movement.
Regardless, I am looking forward to my next episode of the Vikings
  
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