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Discrimination by nontheists?
Posted by Jacob Dreiling on February 12, 2015 at 1:54pm in LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends
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Just curious, has anyone encountered any discrimination (I refuse to use the word homophobia) from a nontheist?  I live in the South, so any discrimination I've encountered has always been in the name of religion.  I was talking about it in Sociology class and someone posited that sort of discrimination couldn't exist without a religious element, and I agreed.  I can't think of a reason to discriminate against gay people that doesn't involve religion.



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 Permalink Reply by Bertold Brautigan 13 hours ago

I have to agree with you, Jacob. I really believe that the only possible arguments against the moral neutrality of any non-abusive sexual practices ultimately have to depend on some sort of religious claims, including "It's against nature."
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 Comment by sk8eycat 9 hours ago
Pat, I'm getting to the point where majority voters like those in Alabama and Kansas frighten me.  Their willful ignorance is appalling/
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 Comment by Pat 10 hours ago
Bertold, your second point is painfully true. Same thing with Chief Justice Moore of Alabama. He was thrown off the bench and the rubes put him back on there. Voters of the likes who are in Alabama and Kansas - think American Taliban.
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 10 hours ago
@ Pat - Hey, you're being way too harsh and critical about poor Sam, for two reasons. First of all, you can't blame him, it was simply good promotion for his campaign, because he IS a double donged dildo.
(Love the alliteration. You could even say he's a dumber than dogshit dorkass double donged dildo.)
And secondly, wherein does the real problem lie? He not only got elected, he got RE-elected. As long as there are supporters for his ilk along with the Osteen/Craig contingency, can you blame an unprincipled opportunistic scumbag for turning over a not-so-honest buck by running the cons they do?
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 12 hours ago
He elaborated on that very idea in his column today, linked below.
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 Comment by Pat 12 hours ago
Thanks Bertold. I like the comment about the governor of a state selling butt plugs named Brownback.
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 12 hours ago
Here ya go, Pat:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/09/can-anal-beads-help-save-kan...
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 Comment by Pat 12 hours ago
OK. Here's what I don't get about the Ohh Soo Moral Brownback. Because of his fiscal policies, Kansas is now broke. So broke, in fact, that in 2014, they had to engage in the sale of sex toys. Since the auction is now over, I couldn't locate the site where the State of Kansas was auctioning off a double donged dildo. But I swear I saw it (and laughed my ass off till there were tears in my eyes).
Try as I might, I can't seem to find which book of the buybull sanctions battery powered "jack packs" while prohibiting normal love between two adult humans. Can someone help me out here?
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 12 hours ago
Per Jon Stewart, "Sam Brownback clicked his heels together three times and said, There's no place like homophobia."
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 13 hours ago
@ Daniel - Well, knowing and respecting your qualities of mind as I do, I was confident his subtlety wouldn't escape you. (Your penchant for understatement is in quite good health as well.)
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 Comment by Daniel W 16 hours ago
From reading the editorial, I'm guessing the writer disagrees with Brownback's policy choices.
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Discrimination by nontheists?
Posted by Jacob Dreiling on February 12, 2015 at 1:54pm in LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends
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Just curious, has anyone encountered any discrimination (I refuse to use the word homophobia) from a nontheist?  I live in the South, so any discrimination I've encountered has always been in the name of religion.  I was talking about it in Sociology class and someone posited that sort of discrimination couldn't exist without a religious element, and I agreed.  I can't think of a reason to discriminate against gay people that doesn't involve religion.






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 Permalink Reply by Bertold Brautigan 13 hours ago

I have to agree with you, Jacob. I really believe that the only possible arguments against the moral neutrality of any non-abusive sexual practices ultimately have to depend on some sort of religious claims, including "It's against nature."

http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/gayatheists/forum/topics/discrimination-by-nontheists?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A2566907&xg_source=activity&groupId=2182797%3AGroup%3A31277














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Kansas Governor Takes Mean-Spirited Swipe At Gay Rights, Forgets To Read The Constitution
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Why Ted Cruz’s ‘Divorce At The Border’ Bill Isn’t That Scary
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 Comment by sk8eycat 9 hours ago
Pat, I'm getting to the point where majority voters like those in Alabama and Kansas frighten me.  Their willful ignorance is appalling/
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 Comment by Pat 10 hours ago
Bertold, your second point is painfully true. Same thing with Chief Justice Moore of Alabama. He was thrown off the bench and the rubes put him back on there. Voters of the likes who are in Alabama and Kansas - think American Taliban.
.
 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 10 hours ago
@ Pat - Hey, you're being way too harsh and critical about poor Sam, for two reasons. First of all, you can't blame him, it was simply good promotion for his campaign, because he IS a double donged dildo.
(Love the alliteration. You could even say he's a dumber than dogshit dorkass double donged dildo.)
And secondly, wherein does the real problem lie? He not only got elected, he got RE-elected. As long as there are supporters for his ilk along with the Osteen/Craig contingency, can you blame an unprincipled opportunistic scumbag for turning over a not-so-honest buck by running the cons they do?
.
 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 12 hours ago
He elaborated on that very idea in his column today, linked below.
.
 Comment by Pat 12 hours ago
Thanks Bertold. I like the comment about the governor of a state selling butt plugs named Brownback.
.
 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 12 hours ago
Here ya go, Pat:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/09/can-anal-beads-help-save-kan...
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 Comment by Pat 12 hours ago
OK. Here's what I don't get about the Ohh Soo Moral Brownback. Because of his fiscal policies, Kansas is now broke. So broke, in fact, that in 2014, they had to engage in the sale of sex toys. Since the auction is now over, I couldn't locate the site where the State of Kansas was auctioning off a double donged dildo. But I swear I saw it (and laughed my ass off till there were tears in my eyes).
Try as I might, I can't seem to find which book of the buybull sanctions battery powered "jack packs" while prohibiting normal love between two adult humans. Can someone help me out here?
.
 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 12 hours ago
Per Jon Stewart, "Sam Brownback clicked his heels together three times and said, There's no place like homophobia."
.
 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 13 hours ago
@ Daniel - Well, knowing and respecting your qualities of mind as I do, I was confident his subtlety wouldn't escape you. (Your penchant for understatement is in quite good health as well.)
.
 Comment by Daniel W 16 hours ago
From reading the editorial, I'm guessing the writer disagrees with Brownback's policy choices.
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