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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 44 minutes ago
Hmmmmm - being locked in a closet with Marcus might completely reverse my opinion that conversion therapy doesn't work.
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 Comment by Daniel W 1 hour ago
Amazing record high in USA support for marriage equality.

I truly never imagined this level of support in my lifetime.

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 Comment by Daniel W 1 hour ago
I don't know what Republican conversion therapy would involve.  Making them watch videos of Michelle Bachman and administer electric shocks and ice baths?  Put them into locked closets with Marcus Bachmann?

I keep thinking WA state is so liberal.  Compared to much of the country it is.  But it's no liberal monolith.

More on the pope and the gay ambassador from France.  Apparently the pope met him in person.  "Pope Francis himself was reported to have personally rejected the posting, telling members of the Curia that he "would not yield". The Vatican used this method in 2007, to reject a previously nominated gay ambassador from France."
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 1 hour ago
Washington State GOP Blocks Bill to Ban Abusive “Gay Conversion” Th...

Yesterday, Washington state Democrats moved to ban so-called “gay conversion” therapy, focusing on abusive practices like electric shock and ice baths, but were blocked by Republican lawmakers.
The Washington state senate voted 22-27 to refuse to consider the bill. ““I am appalled that the Republican majority killed legislation to protect kids from electric shock, ice baths, and other physical and emotional abuse, simply because they’re gay. We need to end conversion therapy once and for all,” said sponsor Senator Marko Liias(D).
The bill had originally cleared the Senate back in March, but after changes were made in the House version, Republicans now oppose it, and are insisting on their own changes. The GOP reportedly was upset at efforts to ban “talk conversion therapy” – which has no scientific basis, as there is just no proof someone can simply be talked out of a sexual orientation.
The bill is now “likely dead,” according to the local press, as only five days remain in the legislative session. Thanks to the GOP's hangup over one provision in the bill, even the most extreme forms of gay conversion therapy will sadly remain legal in Washington state.
 How about Republican conversion therapy?.
 Comment by Daniel W 3 hours ago
On that video, I think one reason it so touches me is I truly loved my parents. And they would have been as likely to vote for marriage equality, as they would have been to roast live babies on a rotating spit over a mesquite fire, with rosemary-pepper dressing.
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 Comment by Daniel W 3 hours ago
Touching video, pulls at my heartstrings.

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 Comment by Daniel W 3 hours ago
Pope Francis, not surprisingly, rejected the French Ambassador to the Vatican, for being gay.  After all, you can't have gay people in Vatican City.

This is the "kinder, gentler pope".  Uh huh.
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 Comment by Janice Rael on April 11, 2015 at 6:37am
To Alex with the 18-year-old niece, it's not easy to challenge a religious believer's faith. Since Easter just passed, ask her if she's ever tried the Dan Barker Easter Challenge. This exercise alone may open her eyes to discrepancies in the Gospels. Then show her the Skeptics Annotated Bible website, telling her that the site has collected and tagged bible verses under various categories such as Injustice, Contradictions, Sex, and Homosexuality. Ask her to examine the site, especially the contradictions. Did she know that the Bible contradicted itself in so many places? Ask her how it makes her feel to place all of her faith in the book, knowing what it teaches in such areas as "Family Values."

In other words, get that girl a notepad, a pen, a bible, and a computer. and ask her to humor you by taking a look at your side of things. Ask her if she can at least see why you do not believe, based on the bible. You don't have to convince her to change her mind, just to understand and accept your position. And if she can understand where you are coming from, perhaps, she'll eventually go to where you are.
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on April 11, 2015 at 5:46am
(Confetti pack: A Shred of Decency for marriage equality)I was glad to read about a Dublin paper shop's "Shred of Decency" campaign, leading up to next month's referendum on marriage equality in Ireland. They recycle homophobic mailings and leaflets into heart-shaped confetti "made from 100% recycled lies"; proceeds go to Yes Equality.
(They'll even print and make confetti out of homophobic tweets that people flag by replying with #ShredThisTweet.)

 
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on April 11, 2015 at 5:33am
Alex, the Socratic method Peter Boghossian advocates in "A Manual for Creating Atheists" might be useful -- asking questions to focus not on the irrationality of particular beliefs, but on "how we know what we know", or "why we're confident in our beliefs" and whether those reasons are justified. For example, to an absolutely 100% certain God-told-them-so Christian true believer: "Many Muslims believe just as passionately in the truth of their holy book. Do you think this makes them right?"
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Bill O’Reilly Has A Plan To Rig The Supreme Court’s Marriage Equality Decision
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Fox News Guest: Being A Transgender Kid Is The Same As Pretending To Be A Dog
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Religious Leaders On Same-Sex Marriage: “No One View Speaks For ‘Religion’”
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 44 minutes ago
Hmmmmm - being locked in a closet with Marcus might completely reverse my opinion that conversion therapy doesn't work.
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 Comment by Daniel W 1 hour ago
Amazing record high in USA support for marriage equality.

I truly never imagined this level of support in my lifetime.

.
 Comment by Daniel W 1 hour ago
I don't know what Republican conversion therapy would involve.  Making them watch videos of Michelle Bachman and administer electric shocks and ice baths?  Put them into locked closets with Marcus Bachmann?

I keep thinking WA state is so liberal.  Compared to much of the country it is.  But it's no liberal monolith.

More on the pope and the gay ambassador from France.  Apparently the pope met him in person.  "Pope Francis himself was reported to have personally rejected the posting, telling members of the Curia that he "would not yield". The Vatican used this method in 2007, to reject a previously nominated gay ambassador from France."
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 Comment by Bertold Brautigan 1 hour ago
Washington State GOP Blocks Bill to Ban Abusive “Gay Conversion” Th...

Yesterday, Washington state Democrats moved to ban so-called “gay conversion” therapy, focusing on abusive practices like electric shock and ice baths, but were blocked by Republican lawmakers.
The Washington state senate voted 22-27 to refuse to consider the bill. ““I am appalled that the Republican majority killed legislation to protect kids from electric shock, ice baths, and other physical and emotional abuse, simply because they’re gay. We need to end conversion therapy once and for all,” said sponsor Senator Marko Liias(D).
The bill had originally cleared the Senate back in March, but after changes were made in the House version, Republicans now oppose it, and are insisting on their own changes. The GOP reportedly was upset at efforts to ban “talk conversion therapy” – which has no scientific basis, as there is just no proof someone can simply be talked out of a sexual orientation.
The bill is now “likely dead,” according to the local press, as only five days remain in the legislative session. Thanks to the GOP's hangup over one provision in the bill, even the most extreme forms of gay conversion therapy will sadly remain legal in Washington state.
 How about Republican conversion therapy?.
 Comment by Daniel W 3 hours ago
On that video, I think one reason it so touches me is I truly loved my parents. And they would have been as likely to vote for marriage equality, as they would have been to roast live babies on a rotating spit over a mesquite fire, with rosemary-pepper dressing.
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 Comment by Daniel W 3 hours ago
Touching video, pulls at my heartstrings.

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 Comment by Daniel W 3 hours ago
Pope Francis, not surprisingly, rejected the French Ambassador to the Vatican, for being gay.  After all, you can't have gay people in Vatican City.

This is the "kinder, gentler pope".  Uh huh.
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 Comment by Janice Rael on April 11, 2015 at 6:37am
To Alex with the 18-year-old niece, it's not easy to challenge a religious believer's faith. Since Easter just passed, ask her if she's ever tried the Dan Barker Easter Challenge. This exercise alone may open her eyes to discrepancies in the Gospels. Then show her the Skeptics Annotated Bible website, telling her that the site has collected and tagged bible verses under various categories such as Injustice, Contradictions, Sex, and Homosexuality. Ask her to examine the site, especially the contradictions. Did she know that the Bible contradicted itself in so many places? Ask her how it makes her feel to place all of her faith in the book, knowing what it teaches in such areas as "Family Values."

In other words, get that girl a notepad, a pen, a bible, and a computer. and ask her to humor you by taking a look at your side of things. Ask her if she can at least see why you do not believe, based on the bible. You don't have to convince her to change her mind, just to understand and accept your position. And if she can understand where you are coming from, perhaps, she'll eventually go to where you are.
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on April 11, 2015 at 5:46am
(Confetti pack: A Shred of Decency for marriage equality)I was glad to read about a Dublin paper shop's "Shred of Decency" campaign, leading up to next month's referendum on marriage equality in Ireland. They recycle homophobic mailings and leaflets into heart-shaped confetti "made from 100% recycled lies"; proceeds go to Yes Equality.
(They'll even print and make confetti out of homophobic tweets that people flag by replying with #ShredThisTweet.)

 
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 Comment by Grinning Cat on April 11, 2015 at 5:33am
Alex, the Socratic method Peter Boghossian advocates in "A Manual for Creating Atheists" might be useful -- asking questions to focus not on the irrationality of particular beliefs, but on "how we know what we know", or "why we're confident in our beliefs" and whether those reasons are justified. For example, to an absolutely 100% certain God-told-them-so Christian true believer: "Many Muslims believe just as passionately in the truth of their holy book. Do you think this makes them right?"
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